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What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil?
I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:59:11 -0700, The New Other Guy wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:38:20 -0400, wrote: > >>What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >>I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... > > Extra virgin means unrefined (processed). > > http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-d...f-mouth-218767 Is your troll meter busted? |
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:44:23 -0500, casa bona > wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:59:11 -0700, The New Other Guy wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:38:20 -0400, wrote: >> >>>What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >>>I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... >> >> Extra virgin means unrefined (processed). >> >> http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-d...f-mouth-218767 > >Is your troll meter busted? Admit it, you wish he was back. So much so, you couldn't even post under your real nym. You obese and effeminate cowardly ****wit. And no, the OP wasn't casa bona. |
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On 2016-06-24 1:44 AM, casa bona wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:59:11 -0700, The New Other Guy wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:38:20 -0400, wrote: >> >>> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >>> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... >> >> Extra virgin means unrefined (processed). >> >> http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-d...f-mouth-218767 > > Is your troll meter busted? > Nope. Nor is my irony meter. |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:59:11 -0700, The New Other Guy
> wrote: >Extra virgin means unrefined (processed). >http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-d...f-mouth-218767 Around here, where olives are commercially grown, olive oil production is a three-stage process. In the first stage, the harvested olives are given a very gentle pressing to release their oil. This oil is called "sýzma" in Turkish (http://tureng.com/en/turkish-english/sizma), is unrefined, and is the most prized and most expensive. I think it's what corresponds to "EVOO" in English. In the second stage, the mash is pressed again only with greater pressure, which leads to some heat generation. This oil is also unrefined and corresponds to "Virgin" I believe. In the third stage the mash is subjected to extreme pressure, which generates a lot of heat. The resulting oil cannot be used (in food at least) without refining. In all three stages the oil is mixed with water and then centrifuged to get rid of any gunk that got through the filters. The centrifuged water is collected and the residue oil that is extracted from it is used for making soap and suchlike. The compressed mash left after the third pressing is used in a variety of ways as such as animal feed, fertilizer, fuel, etc. -- Bob The joint that time is out of www.kanyak.com |
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![]() "Opinicus" > wrote in message l.which.is.quite.invalid... > On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:59:11 -0700, The New Other Guy > > wrote: > >>Extra virgin means unrefined (processed). >>http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-d...f-mouth-218767 > > Around here, where olives are commercially grown, olive oil production > is a three-stage process. In the first stage, the harvested olives are > given a very gentle pressing to release their oil. This oil is called > "sýzma" in Turkish (http://tureng.com/en/turkish-english/sizma), is > unrefined, and is the most prized and most expensive. I think it's > what corresponds to "EVOO" in English. In the second stage, the mash > is pressed again only with greater pressure, which leads to some heat > generation. This oil is also unrefined and corresponds to "Virgin" I > believe. In the third stage the mash is subjected to extreme pressure, > which generates a lot of heat. The resulting oil cannot be used (in > food at least) without refining. > > In all three stages the oil is mixed with water and then centrifuged > to get rid of any gunk that got through the filters. The centrifuged > water is collected and the residue oil that is extracted from it is > used for making soap and suchlike. The compressed mash left after the > third pressing is used in a variety of ways as such as animal feed, > fertilizer, fuel, etc. > Thanks very much ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? > I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... Does Extra Virgin coconut oil baffle you too? |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:38:20 -0400, wrote:
>What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... > Her and Popeye never "DID IT". |
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On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 11:38:56 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? > I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... > > It means first pressing of the olives. You don't cook much, do you? |
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On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? > I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... Rest assured that it is a bizarre expression. I never liked it myself - the phrase or the oil. ![]() |
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On 6/24/2016 8:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-10, wrote: >> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... > > Rest assured that it is a bizarre expression. I never liked it myself - the phrase or the oil. ![]() > Growing up, my mother had a small bottle of Pompeii brand olive oil. It was probably old and past its prime and I thought it was nasty stuff. Years later I tasted some really good fruity oil and since then have it on hand all the time. We have a store in town that has about a dozen different oils and you can taste before you buy. |
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On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/24/2016 8:17 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-10, wrote: > >> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? > >> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... > > > > Rest assured that it is a bizarre expression. I never liked it myself - the phrase or the oil. ![]() > > > > Growing up, my mother had a small bottle of Pompeii brand olive oil. It > was probably old and past its prime and I thought it was nasty stuff. > Years later I tasted some really good fruity oil and since then have it > on hand all the time. We have a store in town that has about a dozen > different oils and you can taste before you buy. I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a lot of folks like me out there. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. Funny. I've been painting for a living for 43 years now. (July 1973). I often use oil-based paint but I've never had the urge to taste it. lol! |
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On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 4:13:15 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. > > Funny. I've been painting for a living for 43 years now. (July 1973). I > often use oil-based paint but I've never had the urge to taste it. lol! Me neither. You know what the paint smells like. Same thing. |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 6/24/2016 8:17 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> > On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-10, wrote: >> >> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >> >> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... >> > >> > Rest assured that it is a bizarre expression. I never liked it myself - the phrase or the oil. ![]() >> > >> >> Growing up, my mother had a small bottle of Pompeii brand olive oil. It >> was probably old and past its prime and I thought it was nasty stuff. >> Years later I tasted some really good fruity oil and since then have it >> on hand all the time. We have a store in town that has about a dozen >> different oils and you can taste before you buy. > >I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. >It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a >little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It tastes weird because you are probably cooking with it. I use this inexpensive 100% EVOO for cooking, it's esentially flavorless. It's silly to waste good flavorful estate EVOO by heating it... the whole point of EVOO is that it's been *cold* pressed/extracted.. if you then heat it you've wasted your money and are obviously afflicted with TIAD. For use on salads and dipping bread I keep small bottles of expensive estate EVOO... can still be drizzled on a hot pasta dish or a pizza, but as a condiment after it's served, not while cooking. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Valu...51-Oz/10315962 |
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On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 4:14:06 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1om> > wrote: > > >On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 6/24/2016 8:17 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> > On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-10, wrote: > >> >> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? > >> >> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... > >> > > >> > Rest assured that it is a bizarre expression. I never liked it myself - the phrase or the oil. ![]() > >> > > >> > >> Growing up, my mother had a small bottle of Pompeii brand olive oil. It > >> was probably old and past its prime and I thought it was nasty stuff. > >> Years later I tasted some really good fruity oil and since then have it > >> on hand all the time. We have a store in town that has about a dozen > >> different oils and you can taste before you buy. > > > >I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. > >It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a > >little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. > > It tastes weird because you are probably cooking with it. > > I use this inexpensive 100% EVOO for cooking, it's esentially > flavorless. It's silly to waste good flavorful estate EVOO by heating > it... the whole point of EVOO is that it's been *cold* > pressed/extracted.. if you then heat it you've wasted your money and > are obviously afflicted with TIAD. For use on salads and dipping > bread I keep small bottles of expensive estate EVOO... can still be > drizzled on a hot pasta dish or a pizza, but as a condiment after it's > served, not while cooking. > http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Valu...51-Oz/10315962 I don't cook with olive oil. Why the heck would I want to cook with oil-based paint? |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. I think you get those nuances when you're tasting freshly milled oil. I get "peppery" from fresh EVOO. Maybe they call oil that's not peppery fruity. I dunno and frankly, I don't care. There are plenty of other oils out there, so you have other choices if olive oil doesn't rock your boat. For me, it's a cooking or salad dressing oil - I only dip when I'm in a restaurant killing time waiting for my order and there's a baguette on the table tempting me to eat it. Other parts of the country put different types of bread on the table and they are better with butter. > It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. Sounds like you're still getting stale olive oil - or maybe it's a brand that is EVOO in name only. Whatever it is, don't waste your money. I like and use olive oil enough to make worthwhile to buy in the large Costco (Kirkland brand) containers. -- sf |
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On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 4:28:09 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsiom> > wrote: > > > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. > > I think you get those nuances when you're tasting freshly milled oil. > I get "peppery" from fresh EVOO. Maybe they call oil that's not > peppery fruity. I dunno and frankly, I don't care. There are plenty > of other oils out there, so you have other choices if olive oil > doesn't rock your boat. For me, it's a cooking or salad dressing oil > - I only dip when I'm in a restaurant killing time waiting for my > order and there's a baguette on the table tempting me to eat it. > Other parts of the country put different types of bread on the table > and they are better with butter. > > > It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. > > Sounds like you're still getting stale olive oil - or maybe it's a > brand that is EVOO in name only. Whatever it is, don't waste your > money. I like and use olive oil enough to make worthwhile to buy in > the large Costco (Kirkland brand) containers. > > > -- > > sf It sure does taste like stale oil but in every Italian restaurant I go to, the oil pretty much tastes the same. I just think I have a genetic predisposition to this - after all, nobody in my family's history ever ate the stuff before. |
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On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 7:26:24 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a lot of folks like me out there. I've got a friend who doesn't like olives or olive oil. You're not alone. On the other hand, sake reminds me of hot paint thinner. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:53:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: > On the other hand, sake reminds me of hot paint thinner. I don't like it either (cold or hot). -- sf |
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On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 5:53:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 7:26:24 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a lot of folks like me out there. > > I've got a friend who doesn't like olives or olive oil. You're not alone. > > On the other hand, sake reminds me of hot paint thinner. > > Cindy Hamilton I like olives just fine - well, that canned stuff anyway. Oddly enough, I've never had hot sake - or cold sake. I'll have to check it out. |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 7:26:24 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a lot of folks like me out there. > > I've got a friend who doesn't like olives or olive oil. You're not alone. > > On the other hand, sake reminds me of hot paint thinner. heheh I've also never tasted paint thinner, hot or cold. |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 6/24/2016 8:17 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> > On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-10, wrote: >> >> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >> >> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... >> > >> > Rest assured that it is a bizarre expression. I never liked it myself - >> > the phrase or the oil. ![]() >> > >> >> Growing up, my mother had a small bottle of Pompeii brand olive oil. It >> was probably old and past its prime and I thought it was nasty stuff. >> Years later I tasted some really good fruity oil and since then have it >> on hand all the time. We have a store in town that has about a dozen >> different oils and you can taste before you buy. > > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes > like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm > not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a > lot of folks like me out there. I'm glad that it doesn't taste fruity to me. I don't like fruit. I do like olive oil and I don't think I've ever met any that I didn't like. |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:48:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >I don't like fruit. I do like >olive oil and I don't think I've ever met any that I didn't like. Noted for future reference ![]() |
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On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 7:26:24 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a lot of folks like me out there. Try looking for unfiltered oil. It has a wonderful flavor. The downside is that it will only last a few months. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 5:28:55 AM UTC-10, Helpful person wrote:
> On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 7:26:24 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > > > I was never able to get a fruity taste out of olive oil. It always tastes like oil-based paint to me. I'll have a little when I get a chance but I'm not a big fan. It might be a peculiarity of my taste buds but there's a lot of folks like me out there. > > Try looking for unfiltered oil. It has a wonderful flavor. The downside is that it will only last a few months. > > http://www.richardfisher.com Mostly, I believe it's genetic. You know how people down South can't taste that mucky taste in catfish? Same thing. http://gbtimes.com/life/asians-still-not-used-olive-oil |
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:10:51 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
> >On 23-Jun-2016, wrote: > >> What does "Extra Virgin" mean in olive oil? >> I always thought that was a bizarre expression.... >The olives have not previously been pressed to give up the goods. >Subsequent uses of the same olives produce a different experience. Too much >reuse ... well, you get the idea... I always thought EVOO involved some sort of immaculate extraction. |
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On 2016-06-24, Jeßus > wrote:
> I always thought EVOO involved some sort of immaculate extraction. Are you sure yer not confusing that one fer EVOO --Evangelical Vegan Olive Oil. ![]() nb |
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On 24 Jun 2016 21:11:14 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2016-06-24, Jeßus > wrote: > >> I always thought EVOO involved some sort of immaculate extraction. > >Are you sure yer not confusing that one fer EVOO --Evangelical Vegan >Olive Oil. ![]() Eww. That sounds like something PETA would endorse... I'll have my EVOO made by burly Italian peasant wimmen and their smelly feet, thank you very much. |
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On 2016-06-24, Jeßus > wrote:
> > I'll have my EVOO made by burly Italian peasant wimmen and their > smelly feet, thank you very much. Sure you don't have "burly Italian peasant wimmin" confused with burly French hairy-pitted grape-crushin' wimmin? ![]() nb |
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On 24 Jun 2016 21:29:10 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2016-06-24, Jeßus > wrote: >> >> I'll have my EVOO made by burly Italian peasant wimmen and their >> smelly feet, thank you very much. > >Sure you don't have "burly Italian peasant wimmin" confused with >burly French hairy-pitted grape-crushin' wimmin? ![]() No, but they're closely related ![]() |
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