I have one of these rotisseries which I love. It is about 7-8 years old and the spit has started to slip out of the left rut after 15 seconds of use.

Nothing about the spit fitting together seems worn, nor does the ceramic end piece seem worn.

Ronco at first tried to pretend that I was using the spit upside down, then confessed that they have had to stop letting anyone technical who might have any knowledge of he product come to the phone any more.

Perhaps somewhat self-servingly they suggested I might buy a new spit (and see if it also slips out??)

Does anyone know what causes this problem please? Or is his unit just dead? (expansion of the VERY soft metal side pieces/wear to the ruts over time?)

They do now have a slightly appealing looking new supposedly space saving model which might be a bit more practical in my tiny kitchen but I am reluctant to buy something which the manufacturer says they don'l dare support using anyone with any technical knowledge!

On 3/30/2016 10:35 AM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
> I have one of these rotisseries which I love. It is about 7-8 years old and the spit has started to slip out of the left rut after 15 seconds of use.
>
> Nothing about the spit fitting together seems worn, nor does the ceramic end piece seem worn.
>
> Ronco at first tried to pretend that I was using the spit upside down, then confessed that they have had to stop letting anyone technical who might have any knowledge of he product come to the phone any more.
>
> Perhaps somewhat self-servingly they suggested I might buy a new spit (and see if it also slips out??)
>
> Does anyone know what causes this problem please? Or is his unit just dead? (expansion of the VERY soft metal side pieces/wear to the ruts over time?)
>
> They do now have a slightly appealing looking new supposedly space saving model which might be a bit more practical in my tiny kitchen but I am reluctant to buy something which the manufacturer says they don'l dare support using anyone with any technical knowledge!
>

Try this, save some money, get lifetime durability:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwP~tW5KJ P

Price:US $35.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwdU1W9ho g

Price:US $34.00

> Try this, save some money, get lifetime durability:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwP~tW5KJ P
>
> Price:US $35.00
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwdU1W9ho g
>
> Price:US $34.00

Price point OK but I only really cook 7-9 lb chickens (or sometimes roasts) and they wouldn't fit in the George Foreman one.

I appreciate the humour about Trump! a bit of levity never went ashtray, especially for those who can't focus on anything being discussed.

On 3/30/2016 12:24 PM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
>
>> Try this, save some money, get lifetime durability:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwP~tW5KJ P
>>
>> Price:US $35.00
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwdU1W9ho g
>>
>> Price:US $34.00
>
> Price point OK but I only really cook 7-9 lb chickens (or sometimes roasts) and they wouldn't fit in the George Foreman one.

Yes, the Baby Georhge tops out at 5 lbs. max, give or take.

But they madee a larger size too:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-George-F...YAAOSwZ1lWfC0J

Price:US $125.55

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwxcRW9YK u

Starting bid:US $149.99

Pricing is higher yes, but these things last forever.

> I appreciate the humour about Trump! a bit of levity never went ashtray, especially for those who can't focus on anything being discussed.

:-)

> But they madee a larger size too:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-George-F...YAAOSwZ1lWfC0J
>
> Price:US $125.55
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwxcRW9YK u
>
> Starting bid:US $149.99
>
> Pricing is higher yes, but these things last forever.
>
> > I appreciate the humour about Trump! a bit of levity never went ashtray, especially for those who can't focus on anything being discussed.
>
> :-)

But it seems huge! Possibly bigger than m y whole kitchen? And you cant put anything on top of it at all.

I am more tempted by the storability factor of the foldaway Ronco if I can find one on craigslist, given that Ronco support is so iffy?

If every thinks my Ronco 5000 has died, has anyone tried one of these?

On 3/30/2016 2:54 PM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
>> But they madee a larger size too:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-George-F...YAAOSwZ1lWfC0J
>>
>> Price:US $125.55
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Forem...AOSwxcRW9YK u
>>
>> Starting bid:US $149.99
>>
>> Pricing is higher yes, but these things last forever.
>>
>>> I appreciate the humour about Trump! a bit of levity never went ashtray, especially for those who can't focus on anything being discussed.
>>
>> :-)
>
> But it seems huge! Possibly bigger than m y whole kitchen?

I hope not.

> And you cant put anything on top of it at all.

No need to, it's a by-use appliance.

Pantry it away when done.

> I am more tempted by the storability factor of the foldaway Ronco if I can find one on craigslist, given that Ronco support is so iffy?

But they already disappointed you, so why not try something else, say:

http://www.amazon.com/NutriChef-Vert...otisserie+oven

Price: $97.99 & FREE Shipping.

or...

http://www.amazon.com/MaxiMatic-ERO-...otisserie+oven

Price: $69.99 & FREE Shipping

or...

http://www.amazon.com/TO4314SSD-Roti...otisserie+oven

Price: $83.00 & FREE Shipping

> If every thinks my Ronco 5000 has died, has anyone tried one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Wolfgang-Puck-...otisserie+oven

Price: $337.89 & FREE Shipping

And at that price it better not break!

Or... go for broke:

http://www.amazon.com/Vollrath-40704...otisserie+oven

Price: $2,112.96 + $78.09 shipping

On 3/30/2016 9:35 AM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
> I have one of these rotisseries which I love. It is about 7-8 years old and the spit has started to slip out of the left rut after 15 seconds of use.
>
> Nothing about the spit fitting together seems worn, nor does the ceramic end piece seem worn.
>
> Ronco at first tried to pretend that I was using the spit upside down, then confessed that they have had to stop letting anyone technical who might have any knowledge of he product come to the phone any more.



This is just another reason to elect Trump. Trump will force Ronco to
manufacture its goods here at home.
STOP BUYING CHEAP CHINK GOODS THAT PUT AMERICANS OUTA WORK!
YAY FOR TRUMP!

Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> I have one of these rotisseries which I love. It is about 7-8 years
> old and the spit has started to slip out of the left rut after 15
> seconds of use.
>
> Nothing about the spit fitting together seems worn, nor does the
> ceramic end piece seem worn.
>
> Ronco at first tried to pretend that I was using the spit upside
> down, then confessed that they have had to stop letting anyone
> technical who might have any knowledge of he product come to the
> phone any more.
>
> Perhaps somewhat self-servingly they suggested I might buy a new spit
> (and see if it also slips out??)
>
> Does anyone know what causes this problem please? Or is his unit just
> dead? (expansion of the VERY soft metal side pieces/wear to the
> ruts over time?)
>
> They do now have a slightly appealing looking new supposedly space
> saving model which might be a bit more practical in my tiny kitchen
> but I am reluctant to buy something which the manufacturer says they
> don'l dare support using anyone with any technical knowledge!

Tiny kitchen? Look to a vertical unit. Lots less footspace and works
nicely.

Carol

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> Tiny kitchen? Look to a vertical unit. Lots less footspace and works
> nicely.
>
> Carol


Yes, I was wondering about people's experiences with vertical units. Do they cook evenly or would a 9 lb chicken just sink to the bottom? Could a vertical one even handle a 9lb chicken? And don't they heat up cabinets above them even more than horizontal ones?

On 3/31/2016 3:13 PM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
>
>> Tiny kitchen? Look to a vertical unit. Lots less footspace and works
>> nicely.
>>
>> Carol
>
>
> Yes, I was wondering about people's experiences with vertical units. Do they cook evenly or would a 9 lb chicken just sink to the bottom? Could a vertical one even handle a 9lb chicken? And don't they heat up cabinets above them even more than horizontal ones?
>

Well...the answers are out the

http://www.amazon.com/NutriChef-Vert...otisserie+oven

Price: $97.99 & FREE Shipping

Product Dimensions 9.1 x 9.1 x 10.2 inches

Heat convects upward, whether in a vertical or horizontal rotisserie, so
the heat release is the same for either style.

The heat from this type of element (700 watts) will not be enough to
impact your overhead cabinetry.

The manual shows this is intended for a 5lb. bird, larger might require
removing the wings or tying them up.


This model goes even larger:

http://www.amazon.com/CuiZen-CUI-762...otisserie+oven

Price: $107.99 & FREE Shipping

1050 watts of power ensure the best cooking conditions for a variety of
foods

Product Dimensions 14.5 x 14.5 x 17 inches

Verified Purchase
Is a great product. Cook our 2.5 kg chicken to perfection. Crispy skin
and moist meat. Easy to use and clean up! Very well built and happy to
see the use of stainless steel and tempered glass instead of plastic,
like many similar priced rotisseries.


And finally:

http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-DGR310... MQ2E80PMWXFS

Price: $117.99 & FREE Shipping

Hold up to 10-pound chicken, poultry, turkey, roast beef, ham, lamb or
pork roast

DGR 31031 Features: -Roasts from inside out and outside in for juicy and
tender food. -Great for grilled ribs or cornish hen in less than 30
minutes. -Electronic controlled cycles cook food evenly inside and
without over browning. -Unlike traditional rotisseries which rotate food
in front of heating elements, this rotisserie rotates heat around and
through food. -Stainless construction.

Product Dimensions 15.4 x 16.1 x 16.5 inches

Our first "cook" was a chicken (slightly more than 5 lbs)and it went
quite well: the bird was first prepped by rubbing some oil completely
over the meat surface and then a spice mixture was applied over
that----this REALLY helped to brown and crisp the skin very nicely and
evenly; We started the cook with 30 mins. on "High" (with center coil
"On"); then 30 mins. on "Low" (center coil "On" for only about the first
10 mins., then center coil "Off").
When we determined at this point the bird was done, the unit was turned
the unit "off" and let the bird sit in the chamber (with lid on) for
another good half hour to "finish".

Results: as good as or better than our traditional rotating rotisserie,
only in much less time.

Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> > Tiny kitchen? Look to a vertical unit. Lots less footspace and
> > works nicely.
> >
> > Carol
>
>
> Yes, I was wondering about people's experiences with vertical units.
> Do they cook evenly or would a 9 lb chicken just sink to the bottom?
> Could a vertical one even handle a 9lb chicken? And don't they heat
> up cabinets above them even more than horizontal ones?

THe verticals cook as evenly as the horizontals.

Mine will not handle a chicken of that size but it was not meant to
either. I suspect at a 9lb chicken, you'd be looking for a commercial
unit.

Generally most regular small chickens for a rotisserie (or vertisserie
vertical units) are max of 5lbs (with 3.5-4lbs optimal for them) and
most chickens sold are about 3-4lbs I think. The bigger oven roasters
you speak of aren't optimal for this cooking type. If nothing else,
drip pan overload.

The chicken will sit over a frame in a verical that holds it out of the
fat trap pan and yes, it heats at the sides so will heat the bottom.
There are normally several attachments to fit over the pan and at least
one will have spikes where you can fit the chicken upside down so as to
somewhat stuff it is you want (not recommended, if you want a stuffed
chicken, use the oven). Mine has fish grilling racks, kabob type
scewers, and some other stuff.

The nice aspect of verticals besides less footspace, is they often have
a metal crock on top and you can cook a second dish in it.

Yes, you have to pull them out from under the cabinet when in use or
have at least 8 inches clearance. You need the same 8 inch with a
horizontal so the end result is you pull both types out a bit to use,
but this vertical ones stores back smaller.

Carol


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On 3/31/2016 5:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>>> Tiny kitchen? Look to a vertical unit. Lots less footspace and
>>> works nicely.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>
>>
>> Yes, I was wondering about people's experiences with vertical units.
>> Do they cook evenly or would a 9 lb chicken just sink to the bottom?
>> Could a vertical one even handle a 9lb chicken? And don't they heat
>> up cabinets above them even more than horizontal ones?
>
> THe verticals cook as evenly as the horizontals.

Not according to the reviews on Amazon.

The bottom of the chicken in many units stays undercooked.

> Mine will not handle a chicken of that size but it was not meant to
> either. I suspect at a 9lb chicken, you'd be looking for a commercial
> unit.

Nope - and I posted examples that will handle that.

> Generally most regular small chickens for a rotisserie (or vertisserie
> vertical units) are max of 5lbs (with 3.5-4lbs optimal for them) and
> most chickens sold are about 3-4lbs I think. The bigger oven roasters
> you speak of aren't optimal for this cooking type. If nothing else,
> drip pan overload.

Prove that.

> The chicken will sit over a frame in a verical that holds it out of the
> fat trap pan and yes, it heats at the sides so will heat the bottom.

No, that's not a given.

In fact unless there is an element at the bottom heat distribution will
be uneven due to convection - the tendency for hot air to rise.

> There are normally several attachments to fit over the pan and at least
> one will have spikes where you can fit the chicken upside down so as to
> somewhat stuff it is you want (not recommended, if you want a stuffed
> chicken, use the oven). Mine has fish grilling racks, kabob type
> scewers, and some other stuff.

Your model is?

> The nice aspect of verticals besides less footspace, is they often have
> a metal crock on top and you can cook a second dish in it.

I have not seen that in the units now on the market.

> Yes, you have to pull them out from under the cabinet when in use or
> have at least 8 inches clearance. You need the same 8 inch with a
> horizontal so the end result is you pull both types out a bit to use,
> but this vertical ones stores back smaller.
>
> Carol

They do, yes.

onglet wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 3/31/2016 5:35 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> > > > Tiny kitchen? Look to a vertical unit. Lots less footspace and
> > > > works nicely.
> > > >
> >>> Carol
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, I was wondering about people's experiences with vertical
> > > units. Do they cook evenly or would a 9 lb chicken just sink to
> > > the bottom? Could a vertical one even handle a 9lb chicken? And
> > > don't they heat up cabinets above them even more than horizontal
> > > ones?
> >
> > THe verticals cook as evenly as the horizontals.
>
> Not according to the reviews on Amazon.

Depends on version probably but generally, not an issue if the size of
the bird is as the machine is designed for.

> > Mine will not handle a chicken of that size but it was not meant to
> > either. I suspect at a 9lb chicken, you'd be looking for a
> > commercial unit.
>
> Nope - and I posted examples that will handle that.

Yes, they were far larger than her space provides and were near
commercial unit sized.

> > Generally most regular small chickens for a rotisserie (or
> > vertisserie vertical units) are max of 5lbs (with 3.5-4lbs optimal
> > for them) and most chickens sold are about 3-4lbs I think. The
> > bigger oven roasters you speak of aren't optimal for this cooking
> > type. If nothing else, drip pan overload.
>
> Prove that.

Experience. If you want a HUGE unit, sure you can do a larger poulty
but then, you probably WILL have a problem with the fatter (bottom)
portion not cooking as fast.

> > The chicken will sit over a frame in a verical that holds it out of
> > the fat trap pan and yes, it heats at the sides so will heat the
> > bottom.
>
> No, that's not a given.

True, there may be cheap ass units that set it direct in the tray. I'm
not suggesting getting one of those.

> In fact unless there is an element at the bottom heat distribution
> will be uneven due to convection - the tendency for hot air to rise.

Nope, works fine here.


> > There are normally several attachments to fit over the pan and at
> > least one will have spikes where you can fit the chicken upside
> > down so as to somewhat stuff it is you want (not recommended, if
> > you want a stuffed chicken, use the oven). Mine has fish grilling
> > racks, kabob type scewers, and some other stuff.
>
> Your model is?

No longer sold but here is a link to it:
http://www.dvo.com/OldFiles/rotisserie-oven.html

It's been a decade or so but here it is today:

http://tinypic.com/r/29m5cac/9

The door handle is actually fine, light was shining on it. She's seen a
few years use but still works like out of the box.


> > The nice aspect of verticals besides less footspace, is they often
> > have a metal crock on top and you can cook a second dish in it.
>
> I have not seen that in the units now on the market.

Sad but i suspect they are there. It's a natural addition.
>
> > Yes, you have to pull them out from under the cabinet when in use or
> > have at least 8 inches clearance. You need the same 8 inch with a
> > horizontal so the end result is you pull both types out a bit to
> > use, but this vertical ones stores back smaller.
> >
> > Carol
>
> They do, yes.



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Uh-Oh, Just came across an official review of the CuiZen CUI-76278 which makes specific reference to it being able to manage a 5lb chicken???

Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Uh-Oh, Just came across an official review of the CuiZen CUI-76278
> which makes specific reference to it being able to manage a 5lb
> chicken???

Read further. Verticals are not based on load bearing weight of a bar
that fails.



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On 4/2/2016 7:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Uh-Oh, Just came across an official review of the CuiZen CUI-76278
>> which makes specific reference to it being able to manage a 5lb
>> chicken???
>
> Read further. Verticals are not based on load bearing weight of a bar
> that fails.
>
>
>
Point.

But the bar does not fail generally, the gear drive might.

On 4/2/2016 6:20 PM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
> Uh-Oh, Just came across an official review of the CuiZen CUI-76278 which makes specific reference to it being able to manage a 5lb chicken???
>
It seems to be able to handle bigger as well.