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Mark Storkamp 16-02-2016 02:35 PM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 
In article >,
wrote:

> From "Anne of Green Gables":
>
> "...But it isn't good manners to tell your company what you are going to give
> them to eat, so I won't tell you what she said we could have to drink. Only
> it begins with an r and a c and it's a bright red color. I love bright red
> drinks, don't you? They taste twice as good as any other color."
>
>
> What I wonder is, why WAS it bad manners, in 1908, to "tell your company what
> you are going to give them to eat"? Does anyone know?
>


I don't know why it was like that, but I do like the concept. Now days
every guest seems to bring a list of what's acceptable. Just look to
posts like:

"Does anyone have any nice veggie meals to share. I have a friend
coming for dinner again and I am all out of something new."

Ophelia[_14_] 16-02-2016 03:55 PM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 


"Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> From "Anne of Green Gables":
>>
>> "...But it isn't good manners to tell your company what you are going to
>> give
>> them to eat, so I won't tell you what she said we could have to drink.
>> Only
>> it begins with an r and a c and it's a bright red color. I love bright
>> red
>> drinks, don't you? They taste twice as good as any other color."
>>
>>
>> What I wonder is, why WAS it bad manners, in 1908, to "tell your company
>> what
>> you are going to give them to eat"? Does anyone know?
>>

>
> I don't know why it was like that, but I do like the concept. Now days
> every guest seems to bring a list of what's acceptable. Just look to
> posts like:
>
> "Does anyone have any nice veggie meals to share. I have a friend
> coming for dinner again and I am all out of something new."


Why is that unacceptable?


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Julie Bove[_2_] 17-02-2016 09:01 AM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From "Anne of Green Gables":
>>>
>>> "...But it isn't good manners to tell your company what you are going to
>>> give
>>> them to eat, so I won't tell you what she said we could have to drink.
>>> Only
>>> it begins with an r and a c and it's a bright red color. I love bright
>>> red
>>> drinks, don't you? They taste twice as good as any other color."
>>>
>>>
>>> What I wonder is, why WAS it bad manners, in 1908, to "tell your company
>>> what
>>> you are going to give them to eat"? Does anyone know?
>>>

>>
>> I don't know why it was like that, but I do like the concept. Now days
>> every guest seems to bring a list of what's acceptable. Just look to
>> posts like:
>>
>> "Does anyone have any nice veggie meals to share. I have a friend
>> coming for dinner again and I am all out of something new."

>
> Why is that unacceptable?


It's not but... It would seem that these days, more and more people have
dietary issues and it is generally acceptable to mention these or for guests
to bring their own food or at least some of it. Apparently in the old days
this would be frowned upon and you would be expected to eat whatever is put
before you or at least pretend to.


Ophelia[_14_] 17-02-2016 09:47 AM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 


"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From "Anne of Green Gables":
>>>>
>>>> "...But it isn't good manners to tell your company what you are going
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>> them to eat, so I won't tell you what she said we could have to drink.
>>>> Only
>>>> it begins with an r and a c and it's a bright red color. I love bright
>>>> red
>>>> drinks, don't you? They taste twice as good as any other color."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I wonder is, why WAS it bad manners, in 1908, to "tell your
>>>> company
>>>> what
>>>> you are going to give them to eat"? Does anyone know?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why it was like that, but I do like the concept. Now days
>>> every guest seems to bring a list of what's acceptable. Just look to
>>> posts like:
>>>
>>> "Does anyone have any nice veggie meals to share. I have a friend
>>> coming for dinner again and I am all out of something new."

>>
>> Why is that unacceptable?

>
> It's not but... It would seem that these days, more and more people have
> dietary issues and it is generally acceptable to mention these or for
> guests to bring their own food or at least some of it. Apparently in the
> old days this would be frowned upon and you would be expected to eat
> whatever is put before you or at least pretend to.


*shrug* The friend I am referring to wouldn't insist on anything and if I
didn't bother, he would just eat around what there was. He is thrilled
though when I do make the effort.



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sf[_9_] 17-02-2016 04:55 PM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:
>
> *shrug* The friend I am referring to wouldn't insist on anything and if I
> didn't bother, he would just eat around what there was. He is thrilled
> though when I do make the effort.


That's the way considerate guests conduct themselves and I think the
majority fall into that category. Those who have strict dietary
guidelines (Celiac, Orthodox Jew, Muslim) are different than those who
want us to cater to their often temporary whims (vegan/vegetarian) -
and would rather not put us through the bother. I don't know how
Celiacs do it without constantly playing the host, because my
non-Celiac DD is so sensitive to gluten that she can be "glutened" (a
new term to me) by trace amounts and feel terrible for days afterward.

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sf

Ophelia[_14_] 17-02-2016 05:43 PM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 


"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>>
>> *shrug* The friend I am referring to wouldn't insist on anything and if I
>> didn't bother, he would just eat around what there was. He is thrilled
>> though when I do make the effort.

>
> That's the way considerate guests conduct themselves and I think the
> majority fall into that category. Those who have strict dietary
> guidelines (Celiac, Orthodox Jew, Muslim) are different than those who
> want us to cater to their often temporary whims (vegan/vegetarian) -
> and would rather not put us through the bother. I don't know how
> Celiacs do it without constantly playing the host, because my
> non-Celiac DD is so sensitive to gluten that she can be "glutened" (a
> new term to me) by trace amounts and feel terrible for days afterward.


I guess I am very lucky. I don't have any friends like that ... but who
knows ... one day ... :))


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sf[_9_] 17-02-2016 08:34 PM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:43:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> *shrug* The friend I am referring to wouldn't insist on anything and if I
> >> didn't bother, he would just eat around what there was. He is thrilled
> >> though when I do make the effort.

> >
> > That's the way considerate guests conduct themselves and I think the
> > majority fall into that category. Those who have strict dietary
> > guidelines (Celiac, Orthodox Jew, Muslim) are different than those who
> > want us to cater to their often temporary whims (vegan/vegetarian) -
> > and would rather not put us through the bother. I don't know how
> > Celiacs do it without constantly playing the host, because my
> > non-Celiac DD is so sensitive to gluten that she can be "glutened" (a
> > new term to me) by trace amounts and feel terrible for days afterward.

>
> I guess I am very lucky. I don't have any friends like that ... but who
> knows ... one day ... :))


Me either but from what we read here, you'd think they were common!

I don't mind making accommodations if it's easy. Fortunately, I can
choose among my low carb main dish meals for DD's gluten
accommodation. Appetizers and desserts are more difficult for me
because I rarely serve them just for the two of us - so I don't have
much of a repertoire. Fortunately, I love Nabisco's rice crackers and
Crunchmaster's seed cracker so I keep them on hand, and she can eat
goat's milk cheese (cheddar and brie are expensive, but delicious).
Hummus and veggie dippers also work. Panna cotta is the one
flourless, eggless and dairy free dessert I make. Not buying weird
ingredients or using egg subs - that's all the effort I will put into
it. I can make flourless desserts, but they'll probably contain egg
or dairy so she can decide if she wants to live with the
consequences... otherwise there's always a piece of fruit.

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sf

Ophelia[_14_] 17-02-2016 09:10 PM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 


"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:43:47 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:47:04 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> *shrug* The friend I am referring to wouldn't insist on anything and
>> >> if I
>> >> didn't bother, he would just eat around what there was. He is
>> >> thrilled
>> >> though when I do make the effort.
>> >
>> > That's the way considerate guests conduct themselves and I think the
>> > majority fall into that category. Those who have strict dietary
>> > guidelines (Celiac, Orthodox Jew, Muslim) are different than those who
>> > want us to cater to their often temporary whims (vegan/vegetarian) -
>> > and would rather not put us through the bother. I don't know how
>> > Celiacs do it without constantly playing the host, because my
>> > non-Celiac DD is so sensitive to gluten that she can be "glutened" (a
>> > new term to me) by trace amounts and feel terrible for days afterward.

>>
>> I guess I am very lucky. I don't have any friends like that ... but who
>> knows ... one day ... :))

>
> Me either but from what we read here, you'd think they were common!
>
> I don't mind making accommodations if it's easy. Fortunately, I can
> choose among my low carb main dish meals for DD's gluten
> accommodation. Appetizers and desserts are more difficult for me
> because I rarely serve them just for the two of us - so I don't have
> much of a repertoire. Fortunately, I love Nabisco's rice crackers and
> Crunchmaster's seed cracker so I keep them on hand, and she can eat
> goat's milk cheese (cheddar and brie are expensive, but delicious).
> Hummus and veggie dippers also work. Panna cotta is the one
> flourless, eggless and dairy free dessert I make. Not buying weird
> ingredients or using egg subs - that's all the effort I will put into
> it. I can make flourless desserts, but they'll probably contain egg
> or dairy so she can decide if she wants to live with the
> consequences... otherwise there's always a piece of fruit.


I'd say your DD is rather spoiled ... and so she ought to be:)))
What else are daughters for:))


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sf[_9_] 18-02-2016 05:32 AM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 21:10:15 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> I'd say your DD is rather spoiled ... and so she ought to be:)))
> What else are daughters for:))


Thanks, O! She's far from spoiled. She eats what she can when she's
here, doesn't play the diva and thanks me profusely when she thinks I
made an effort to gear the meal toward her needs. :)

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sf

Ophelia[_14_] 18-02-2016 08:56 AM

Hosting, guests - very old rule on telling what's being served?
 


"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 21:10:15 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> I'd say your DD is rather spoiled ... and so she ought to be:)))
>> What else are daughters for:))

>
> Thanks, O! She's far from spoiled. She eats what she can when she's
> here, doesn't play the diva and thanks me profusely when she thinks I
> made an effort to gear the meal toward her needs. :)


Bless her:) You have a lovely girl there and she obviously loves and
appreciates you:)

You should just spoil her as much as you can:))

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