Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I

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sf

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:23:15 -0800, sf > wrote:

>Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I

It sounds like the only language you learn by not going to school.

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Bruce

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:23:15 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>> Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>
> It sounds like the only language you learn by not going to school.
>
That sounds like a crass,culturally bigoted slander.

On 11/23/2015 10:23 AM, sf wrote:
> Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>

I am but there's different forms of pidgin I'll use depending if it's
old Japanese, or Chinese, or Hawaiian folks, or even if it's a person I
used to go to school with. Basically, I'll listen to the speaker and
dial in the level of pidgin.

When I was going to high school, people thought I was raised on the
mainland because my speech was so haolefied but that was probably due to
my mom speaking very properly and my having a touch of Aspergers. My
speaking in pidgin would have worried my mom to no end. These days I can
communicate very well in pidgin - although I am not fluent in full-blown
moke-blalas.

Back when I was going to school there was an effort by the state to wipe
out pidgin in Hawaii. That didn't work but that matters very little
these days. The younger generation is not interested in expressing
themselves in this old-fashioned way. And the beat goes on.

dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 10:23 AM, sf wrote:
>> Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>>
>
> I am but there's different forms of pidgin I'll use depending if it's
> old Japanese, or Chinese, or Hawaiian folks, or even if it's a person I
> used to go to school with. Basically, I'll listen to the speaker and
> dial in the level of pidgin.
>
> When I was going to high school, people thought I was raised on the
> mainland because my speech was so haolefied but that was probably due to
> my mom speaking very properly and my having a touch of Aspergers. My
> speaking in pidgin would have worried my mom to no end. These days I can
> communicate very well in pidgin - although I am not fluent in full-blown
> moke-blalas.
>
> Back when I was going to school there was an effort by the state to wipe
> out pidgin in Hawaii. That didn't work but that matters very little
> these days. The younger generation is not interested in expressing
> themselves in this old-fashioned way. And the beat goes on.
>
>
Around here we do Spanglish, it's a borderland hybrid that has migrated
on up.

I may park a truck or "parquear una troca" depending on who I'm talking to.

On 11/23/2015 11:41 AM, Hidalgo wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 10:23 AM, sf wrote:
>>> Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>>>
>>
>> I am but there's different forms of pidgin I'll use depending if it's
>> old Japanese, or Chinese, or Hawaiian folks, or even if it's a person I
>> used to go to school with. Basically, I'll listen to the speaker and
>> dial in the level of pidgin.
>>
>> When I was going to high school, people thought I was raised on the
>> mainland because my speech was so haolefied but that was probably due to
>> my mom speaking very properly and my having a touch of Aspergers. My
>> speaking in pidgin would have worried my mom to no end. These days I can
>> communicate very well in pidgin - although I am not fluent in full-blown
>> moke-blalas.
>>
>> Back when I was going to school there was an effort by the state to wipe
>> out pidgin in Hawaii. That didn't work but that matters very little
>> these days. The younger generation is not interested in expressing
>> themselves in this old-fashioned way. And the beat goes on.
>>
>>
> Around here we do Spanglish, it's a borderland hybrid that has migrated
> on up.
>
> I may park a truck or "parquear una troca" depending on who I'm talking to.
>
>

This happens whenever people with different languages live together and
have to communicate. I can only surmise that it's the most natural thing
in the world. People that live in a cultural vacuum would disagree.

dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 11:41 AM, Hidalgo wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2015 10:23 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am but there's different forms of pidgin I'll use depending if it's
>>> old Japanese, or Chinese, or Hawaiian folks, or even if it's a person I
>>> used to go to school with. Basically, I'll listen to the speaker and
>>> dial in the level of pidgin.
>>>
>>> When I was going to high school, people thought I was raised on the
>>> mainland because my speech was so haolefied but that was probably due to
>>> my mom speaking very properly and my having a touch of Aspergers. My
>>> speaking in pidgin would have worried my mom to no end. These days I can
>>> communicate very well in pidgin - although I am not fluent in full-blown
>>> moke-blalas.
>>>
>>> Back when I was going to school there was an effort by the state to wipe
>>> out pidgin in Hawaii. That didn't work but that matters very little
>>> these days. The younger generation is not interested in expressing
>>> themselves in this old-fashioned way. And the beat goes on.
>>>
>>>
>> Around here we do Spanglish, it's a borderland hybrid that has migrated
>> on up.
>>
>> I may park a truck or "parquear una troca" depending on who I'm
>> talking to.
>>
>>
>
> This happens whenever people with different languages live together and
> have to communicate. I can only surmise that it's the most natural thing
> in the world.

100% agree!

> People that live in a cultural vacuum would disagree.

There are a few too many of those for my liking.

Spanglish is fun and it brings people together, no harm, no foul.

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:54:33 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

> This happens whenever people with different languages live together and
> have to communicate. I can only surmise that it's the most natural thing
> in the world. People that live in a cultural vacuum would disagree.

Tru dat.

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sf

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:23:15 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> > Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>
> It sounds like the only language you learn by not going to school.

LOL, I remember when I lived in Hawaii. There was a movement by the
teachers to allow teaching in pidgin. Then they threw a teachers exam
and a very high number failed basic english sets.. the movement went
away after that.

Even the locals said 'speak pidgin at home, ok, but learn right at
school'. That was in the mid-80's.

Carol

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On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 4:54:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

> This happens whenever people with different languages live together and
> have to communicate. I can only surmise that it's the most natural thing
> in the world. People that live in a cultural vacuum would disagree.

On the contrary. I grew up entirely with white people, but I don't
disagree. Oh, wait. By the end of high school we had one black
student, but he was a couple grades behind and I rarely saw him,
and a Korean girl who was roundly disliked for blowing the grading
curve.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:23:15 -0800, sf > wrote:

>Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I


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On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:29:11 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

>On 11/23/2015 10:23 AM, sf wrote:
>> Hawaiian Pidgin Recognized As A Language (In Pidgin with Subtitles)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaolMcl8v0I
>>
>
>I am but there's different forms of pidgin I'll use depending if it's
>old Japanese, or Chinese, or Hawaiian folks, or even if it's a person I
>used to go to school with. Basically, I'll listen to the speaker and
>dial in the level of pidgin.
>
>When I was going to high school, people thought I was raised on the
>mainland because my speech was so haolefied but that was probably due to
>my mom speaking very properly and my having a touch of Aspergers. My
>speaking in pidgin would have worried my mom to no end. These days I can
>communicate very well in pidgin - although I am not fluent in full-blown
>moke-blalas.
>
>Back when I was going to school there was an effort by the state to wipe
>out pidgin in Hawaii. That didn't work but that matters very little
>these days. The younger generation is not interested in expressing
>themselves in this old-fashioned way. And the beat goes on.
>
"> You are reaping what you sowed by feeding known trolls, dearie"

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On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 03:30:32 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 4:54:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> This happens whenever people with different languages live together and
>> have to communicate. I can only surmise that it's the most natural thing
>> in the world. People that live in a cultural vacuum would disagree.
>
>On the contrary. I grew up entirely with white people, but I don't
>disagree. Oh, wait. By the end of high school we had one black
>student, but he was a couple grades behind and I rarely saw him,
>and a Korean girl who was roundly disliked for blowing the grading
>curve.

I bet she would have been liked if the blew the football squad. LOL

On 11/24/2015 2:32 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 03:30:32 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 4:54:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> This happens whenever people with different languages live together and
>>> have to communicate. I can only surmise that it's the most natural thing
>>> in the world. People that live in a cultural vacuum would disagree.
>>
>> On the contrary. I grew up entirely with white people, but I don't
>> disagree. Oh, wait. By the end of high school we had one black
>> student, but he was a couple grades behind and I rarely saw him,
>> and a Korean girl who was roundly disliked for blowing the grading
>> curve.
>
> I bet she would have been liked if the blew the football squad. LOL
>
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