I keep seeing ads for this:

http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...20shelf%20life

better, tiny URL:

http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw

The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
water.

Does anyone actually buy this stuff?

Jill

If you live far from a market or have to endure e.g. roads out or lost power, well it might not be a bad idea. How long could you go with what's in the house now?

On 10/8/2015 1:38 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> If you live far from a market or have to endure e.g. roads out or lost power, well it might not be a bad idea. How long could you go with what's in the house now?
>

The cat food alone would hold her till the next solstice...

On 10/8/2015 3:38 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> If you live far from a market or have to endure e.g. roads out or lost power, well it might not be a bad idea. How long could you go with what's in the house now?
>
Couple of weeks, easy. I might not be totally happy about it, but I
could manage. I could even get creative.

Jill

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 10/8/2015 3:38 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > If you live far from a market or have to endure e.g. roads out or
> > lost power, well it might not be a bad idea. How long could you go
> > with what's in the house now?
> >
> Couple of weeks, easy. I might not be totally happy about it, but I
> could manage. I could even get creative.
>
> Jill

Grin, with power (or gas for a generator) we normally have 2 months
worth here. I don't do that for 'emergency' reasons, but more of a
different shopping habit.

Carol

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Kalmia > wrote in
:

> If you live far from a market or have to endure e.g. roads out or
> lost power, well it might not be a bad idea. How long could you go
> with what's in the house now?

A few weeks. Lots of canned and packaged stuff. Also depends on how much
drinking water I have in my tank. Longer if the electric stayed on for my
freezer.

--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

On 2015-10-09 12:55 PM, KenK wrote:

> A few weeks. Lots of canned and packaged stuff. Also depends on how much
> drinking water I have in my tank. Longer if the electric stayed on for my
> freezer.

My pantry is always full, as is my chest freezer. I figure that as long
as the stuff in the freezer is frozen it can last until a day or two
after it thaws. I have a well and a cistern. Most important, I have a
lot of wine in the cellar and a well stocked liquor cabinet.

In article >,
jmcquown > wrote:

> I keep seeing ads for this:
>
> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>
> better, tiny URL:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>
> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
> water.
>
> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>
> Jill

Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.

On 10/8/2015 4:03 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
> In article >,
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>
>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>
>> better, tiny URL:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>
>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>> water.
>>
>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>
>> Jill
>
> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>
Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't
stockpile instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxavPANO8s

Jill

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 17:54:35 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2015 4:03 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>> In article >,
>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>>
>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>>
>>> better, tiny URL:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>>
>>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>>
>Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
>bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't
>stockpile instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.

"waiting for the end of the world". Why would that be necessary part
of stockpiling emergency food? You are so bigoted on this topic.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:58:31 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:24:23 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 17:54:35 -0400, jmcquown >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/8/2015 4:03 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>>>>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>>>>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>>>>
>>>>> better, tiny URL:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>>>>
>>>>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>>>>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>>>>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>>>>> water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>>>> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>>>> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>>>>
>>>Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
>>>bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't
>>>stockpile instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.
>>
>>"waiting for the end of the world". Why would that be necessary part
>>of stockpiling emergency food? You are so bigoted on this topic.
>
>It's what so many people said here, until the day it happened and we
>had a full force hurricane. The night before the hurricane I had
>mentioned on a local group (bear in mind they knew I lived on the
>shore then) that I had decided to put the BBQ in the shed and had tied
>down various other things. Several of them mentioned things about
>chickens and alarmists
>
>It hit, I didn't have power for ten days, which meant no water because
>I was on a well, and probably the most satisfying thing was delivering
>a small butane gas ring to one of the group who had a new infant and
>was trying to heat water for feed bottles on a BBQ. I never said a
>word but both of us knew what I was thinking Talk about a canary
>that swallowed five canaries



The thing is, it isn't difficult or expensive to have a few things put
away for emergencies - some food, water, maybe some torches and a
generator. Imagine what would happen if the grid went down in a big
way in some of the world's larger cities? It would rather interesting
after just a few days. Actually, it's only a matter of time before it
happens, extreme solar flares won't stop coming just because we're
here now and need electricity.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:58:31 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:24:23 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 17:54:35 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 10/8/2015 4:03 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>>>>>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>>>>>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>>>>>
>>>>>> better, tiny URL:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>>>>>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>>>>>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>>>>> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>>>>> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>>>>>
>>>>Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
>>>>bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't
>>>>stockpile instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.
>>>
>>>"waiting for the end of the world". Why would that be necessary part
>>>of stockpiling emergency food? You are so bigoted on this topic.
>>
>>It's what so many people said here, until the day it happened and we
>>had a full force hurricane. The night before the hurricane I had
>>mentioned on a local group (bear in mind they knew I lived on the
>>shore then) that I had decided to put the BBQ in the shed and had tied
>>down various other things. Several of them mentioned things about
>>chickens and alarmists
>>
>>It hit, I didn't have power for ten days, which meant no water because
>>I was on a well, and probably the most satisfying thing was delivering
>>a small butane gas ring to one of the group who had a new infant and
>>was trying to heat water for feed bottles on a BBQ. I never said a
>>word but both of us knew what I was thinking Talk about a canary
>>that swallowed five canaries
>
>
>
> The thing is, it isn't difficult or expensive to have a few things put
> away for emergencies - some food, water, maybe some torches and a
> generator. Imagine what would happen if the grid went down in a big
> way in some of the world's larger cities? It would rather interesting
> after just a few days. Actually, it's only a matter of time before it
> happens, extreme solar flares won't stop coming just because we're
> here now and need electricity.

It did when we were living in NY. I can't remember now how long we were
without power. I want to say something like 10 days. Cell phones would not
work. No cell towers running. Neither did cordless phones. Seems we were
one of the few families that had a corded phone. And thankfully we had the
kind of plan so that long distance calls were not extra. Not in this
country anyway.

The worst problems were that nobody could get cash or gas. The cash didn't
matter after the first couple of days. Restaurants and stores were not open
much beyond that. Nothing left to sell! Or in the case of larger stores,
too much chance of theft and no way to get the computer system up and
running.

People either stayed at work or just didn't go in. No public
transportation. We just stayed home. Husband was able to walk or ride his
bike to work as it was near by. Thankfully we had just been at the military
commissary prior. I was actually putting the food away when the power went
out. And since it was summer, I had bought a lot of things like prepared
salads and spinach pie. Things that didn't require heating to eat. I also
had a ton of frozen blue ice so the food was safe for about two days.

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:48:58 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:07:27 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:58:31 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>The thing is, it isn't difficult or expensive to have a few things put
>>away for emergencies - some food, water, maybe some torches and a
>>generator. Imagine what would happen if the grid went down in a big
>>way in some of the world's larger cities? It would rather interesting
>>after just a few days. Actually, it's only a matter of time before it
>>happens, extreme solar flares won't stop coming just because we're
>>here now and need electricity.
>
>It sure taught people here to plan ahead, if you do and it is not
>needed, well and good, but if you need it and don't have it to hand,
>big problem.

Exactly

> wrote in message
...

> It's what so many people said here, until the day it happened and we
> had a full force hurricane. The night before the hurricane I had
> mentioned on a local group (bear in mind they knew I lived on the
> shore then) that I had decided to put the BBQ in the shed and had tied
> down various other things. Several of them mentioned things about
> chickens and alarmists
>
> It hit, I didn't have power for ten days, which meant no water because
> I was on a well, and probably the most satisfying thing was delivering
> a small butane gas ring to one of the group who had a new infant and
> was trying to heat water for feed bottles on a BBQ. I never said a
> word but both of us knew what I was thinking Talk about a canary
> that swallowed five canaries

Good for you. We always keep plenty in. Scoffers always go on about 'the
end of the world' but as in your case they found out differently. Plenty of
egg on their faces!

How about a if you are unable to get to the shops for some reason -
sickness for example? How about a huge unexpected bill arrives? As in your
case, a power outage? My husband is a prepper and I am very proud of that.
We will never go without food and water or have no way of cooking. Of
course it takes thought to consider such eventualities.

As I said, for us it is never about an 'end of the world' scenario, just a
way of caring for ourselves and our family in any crisis.

--
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On 10/9/2015 5:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> Good for you. We always keep plenty in. Scoffers always go on about
> 'the end of the world' but as in your case they found out differently.
> Plenty of egg on their faces!
>
> How about a if you are unable to get to the shops for some reason -
> sickness for example? How about a huge unexpected bill arrives? As in
> your case, a power outage? My husband is a prepper and I am very proud
> of that. We will never go without food and water or have no way of
> cooking. Of course it takes thought to consider such eventualities.
>
> As I said, for us it is never about an 'end of the world' scenario, just
> a way of caring for ourselves and our family in any crisis.

I think it is more about just making sure you have food, water or a way
to get it, some emergency supplies and cash always on hand. I'm bad
about the last, but I just bought a fireproof safe so now I have a place
to stash some cash and just leave it for an emergency.

Part of my job is being the point of contact for disaster recovery and
while at work that means IT stuff, at home it just means readiness.

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Cheryl

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:16:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>> It's what so many people said here, until the day it happened and we
>>> had a full force hurricane. The night before the hurricane I had
>>> mentioned on a local group (bear in mind they knew I lived on the
>>> shore then) that I had decided to put the BBQ in the shed and had tied
>>> down various other things. Several of them mentioned things about
>>> chickens and alarmists
>>>
>>> It hit, I didn't have power for ten days, which meant no water because
>>> I was on a well, and probably the most satisfying thing was delivering
>>> a small butane gas ring to one of the group who had a new infant and
>>> was trying to heat water for feed bottles on a BBQ. I never said a
>>> word but both of us knew what I was thinking Talk about a canary
>>> that swallowed five canaries
>>
>>Good for you. We always keep plenty in. Scoffers always go on about 'the
>>end of the world' but as in your case they found out differently. Plenty
>>of
>>egg on their faces!
>>
>> How about a if you are unable to get to the shops for some reason -
>>sickness for example? How about a huge unexpected bill arrives? As in
>>your
>>case, a power outage? My husband is a prepper and I am very proud of
>>that.
>>We will never go without food and water or have no way of cooking. Of
>>course it takes thought to consider such eventualities.
>>
>>As I said, for us it is never about an 'end of the world' scenario, just a
>>way of caring for ourselves and our family in any crisis.
>
> Yes, to me it's common sense. If for instance a hurricane is
> forecast, I even make sure the gas tank is full, if the hurricane
> doesn't arrive, I'll still be driving and using the gas. Cash is the
> other thing, good to have some on hand for emergencies, ATMs don't
> work if the power is out. Another good tip given to me was as soon as
> the outage starts, wrap the freezer well with sleeping bags or duvets,
> gives food a better chance of staying frozen.

We do all that too))

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wrote:
>
> Another good tip given to me was as soon as
> the outage starts, wrap the freezer well with sleeping bags or duvets,
> gives food a better chance of staying frozen.

LMAO! That's kinda dumb, imo.

On 10/8/2015 5:54 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
> Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
> bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't
> stockpile instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxavPANO8s
>
> Jill

If the world comes to and end and you die without stored food, you'll be
sorry.

If the world does get nuked I don't want to be one of the few left
living in a hole in the ground. I'd do my part to repopulate the world
though.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 8:24:58 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/8/2015 5:54 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>
> > Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
> > bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't
> > stockpile instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxavPANO8s
> >
> > Jill
>
> If the world comes to and end and you die without stored food, you'll be
> sorry.
>
> If the world does get nuked I don't want to be one of the few left
> living in a hole in the ground. I'd do my part to repopulate the world
> though.

After the fashion of Dr. Strangelove?

If the world comes to an end, I'm not going to worry about food or
any of that. One 9mm round for me, one for my husband.

Of course, the tricky part is deciding whether we've reached the end,
or just a local minimum.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/9/2015 4:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> One 9mm round for me, one for my husband.


That's your best "shot"?

Noisy, messy, there are better exit ramps.

On 10/8/2015 8:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> If the world does get nuked I don't want to be one of the few left
> living in a hole in the ground.

Me neither.

I'd do my part to repopulate the world
> though.

Could be fun even though I can't reproduce anymore. lmao

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 10/8/2015 8:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> If the world does get nuked I don't want to be one of the few left
>> living in a hole in the ground.
>
> Me neither.
>
> I'd do my part to repopulate the world
>> though.
>
> Could be fun even though I can't reproduce anymore. lmao

Oh not for me. I am with Cindy on this.


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/8/2015 4:03 PM, Mark Storkamp wrote:
>> In article >,
>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>>
>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>>
>>> better, tiny URL:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>>
>>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>>
> Who said a thing about legislation?! I keep keep canned food on hand,
> bottled water, too. If ordered to evac I'd do it. But I don't stockpile
> instant food and sit around waiting for the end of the world.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxavPANO8s

Canned food has the benefit of being able to eat it as is. But it is heavy
and if you do have to evacuate, especially on foot, you won't be able to
carry much of it. Dehydrated meals would need water to prepare. And even
things like energy bars and dried fruit do need water to offset them.

The military used to ask us to attend emergency preparedness meetings.
There, I learned that water was far more important to keep than food,
although both are necessary. I also learned to keep matches and a lot of
batteries. Good thing batteries are cheap now. I remember the awful ones
we had when I was a kid. Expensive and didn't last long. Should also keep
things handy like socks, underwear and blankets if you do have to leave
right away. And baby wipes.

On 10/8/2015 11:26 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The military used to ask us to attend emergency preparedness meetings.
> There, I learned that water was far more important to keep than food,
> although both are necessary. I also learned to keep matches and a lot
> of batteries. Good thing batteries are cheap now. I remember the awful
> ones we had when I was a kid. Expensive and didn't last long. Should
> also keep things handy like socks, underwear and blankets if you do have
> to leave right away. And baby wipes.

I actually have an emergency kit. Rather than bulky blankets it contains
those emergency blankets - shiny metallic ones can't remember what
they're called - a bunch of other things suggested including nitrile
gloves, a whistle, light sticks, respirator masks and even a crank up
radio. It's all packed into a backpack that's easy to grab if needed. I
even have enough animal carriers to put one cat in each one, but in a
true emergency I'm not sure I could even catch them all if they're
freaked out.

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Cheryl

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:39:07 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2015 11:26 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The military used to ask us to attend emergency preparedness meetings.
>> There, I learned that water was far more important to keep than food,
>> although both are necessary. I also learned to keep matches and a lot
>> of batteries. Good thing batteries are cheap now. I remember the awful
>> ones we had when I was a kid. Expensive and didn't last long. Should
>> also keep things handy like socks, underwear and blankets if you do have
>> to leave right away. And baby wipes.
>
>I actually have an emergency kit. Rather than bulky blankets it contains
>those emergency blankets - shiny metallic ones can't remember what
>they're called -

Thermal blanket.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:03:09 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> wrote:

>In article >,
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>
>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>
>> better, tiny URL:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>
>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>> water.
>>
>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>
>Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.

I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
what it's like to starve and witnessed cannibalism as a daily event.
Jill and others like her simply don't understand how things go very
badly very quickly. But because she hasn't personally experienced it
herself, then it's not an issue.

On 08/10/2015 5:22 PM, Je�us wrote:

>
> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
> what it's like to starve

There was a German woman who had married a soldier from my English
village after WW2. She had a well stocked pantry with 2 or 3 of most
things (cans, jams etc). When she used anything she always replaced it
immediately as she had known hunger in the 3rd Reich.
Graham

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:55:07 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 08/10/2015 5:22 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>
>> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
>> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
>> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
>> what it's like to starve
>
>There was a German woman who had married a soldier from my English
>village after WW2. She had a well stocked pantry with 2 or 3 of most
>things (cans, jams etc). When she used anything she always replaced it
>immediately as she had known hunger in the 3rd Reich.

Yes, things like that seem to change people's perspectives. My
grandparents had to deal with Nazis, but the Russians were the ones
who did the most harm, not just to them, but the Ukraine in general.

On 10/9/2015 5:46 AM, wrote:
> I was thinking of that recently and now here we are again with the
> Russians interfering. Putin is such a Cold War type, it's like he
> has taken them back fifty years.


With the able assistance of the vaunted Obamessiah, also known as the
most ineffectual, cowardly President this nation has had in its entire
history.

NOW you truly have something to blame for America for - Bush kept Putin
on a leash, Obozo has let the little Napoleonic tyrant run WILD!

On 09/10/2015 5:46 AM, wrote:

>
> I was thinking of that recently and now here we are again with the
> Russians interfering. Putin is such a Cold War type, it's like he
> has taken them back fifty years.
>
Are you sure that you are not talking about Harper?
Graham

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:46:28 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:00:16 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:55:07 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 08/10/2015 5:22 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
>>>> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
>>>> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
>>>> what it's like to starve
>>>
>>>There was a German woman who had married a soldier from my English
>>>village after WW2. She had a well stocked pantry with 2 or 3 of most
>>>things (cans, jams etc). When she used anything she always replaced it
>>>immediately as she had known hunger in the 3rd Reich.
>>
>>Yes, things like that seem to change people's perspectives. My
>>grandparents had to deal with Nazis, but the Russians were the ones
>>who did the most harm, not just to them, but the Ukraine in general.
>
>I was thinking of that recently and now here we are again with the
>Russians interfering. Putin is such a Cold War type, it's like he
>has taken them back fifty years.

I'm a little conflicted about Putin, but definitely not the kind of
guy to turn your back on.

On 10/8/2015 7:22 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:03:09 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>>
>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>>
>>> better, tiny URL:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>>
>>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>
>> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>
Legislate?

> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
> what it's like to starve and witnessed cannibalism as a daily event.

I have canned food in the pantry. I don't have to hide food under my
bed. Never ran into a cannibal.

> Jill and others like her simply don't understand how things go very
> badly very quickly. But because she hasn't personally experienced it
> herself, then it's not an issue.
>
How do you know I have never experienced zombies?

I know how to cook on a charcoal grill when there is no electricity. It
doesn't involve buying dehydrated food that will last 25 years in a bomb
shelter.

Jill

On 2015-10-09, jmcquown > wrote:

> doesn't involve buying dehydrated food that will last 25 years in a bomb
> shelter.

That reminds me. I'm outta Spam. 8|

nb

On 10/9/2015 12:55 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-10-09, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> doesn't involve buying dehydrated food that will last 25 years in a bomb
>> shelter.
>
> That reminds me. I'm outta Spam. 8|
>
> nb
>
I've got a couple of cans of it in in my emergency stash

Jill

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 23:32:40 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2015 7:22 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:03:09 -0500, Mark Storkamp
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I keep seeing ads for this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wisefoodstorage.com/long-...urce=bing&utm_
>>>> medium=cpc&utm_campaign=WP%20-%20Food%20%26%20Water&utm_term=survival%20foods%
>>>> 20with%20long%20shelf%20life
>>>>
>>>> better, tiny URL:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/oxvk4qw
>>>>
>>>> The Highest Quality Survival Food. Yeah, boy, for when you want to
>>>> hunker down on that ranch in Montana with nothing more than guns,
>>>> ammunition and dried food packets. Just add water. Hope you have some
>>>> water.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone actually buy this stuff?
>>>
>>> Ever see what happens at the grocery stores before a hurricane or
>>> blizzard? Some people think it's best to be prepared. You may not, but
>>> that doesn't mean we have to legislate against it.
>>
>Legislate?

Not my comment.

>> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
>> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
>> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
>> what it's like to starve and witnessed cannibalism as a daily event.
>
>I have canned food in the pantry. I don't have to hide food under my
>bed. Never ran into a cannibal.

Neither had my grandparents, until they did. Okay, so don't hide it
under your bed, I guess your kitchen cupboards can hold suitcases of
food.

>> Jill and others like her simply don't understand how things go very
>> badly very quickly. But because she hasn't personally experienced it
>> herself, then it's not an issue.
>>
>How do you know I have never experienced zombies?
>
>I know how to cook on a charcoal grill when there is no electricity. It
>doesn't involve buying dehydrated food that will last 25 years in a bomb
>shelter.

Okay, you just don't get it. At all. I'm surprised, actually.

On 10/8/2015 11:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
>> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
>> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
>> what it's like to starve and witnessed cannibalism as a daily event.
>
> I have canned food in the pantry. I don't have to hide food under my
> bed. Never ran into a cannibal.

In harder times I actually can imagine starving people resorting to
cannibalism even if it never crossed their mind before. We as humans
have a survival instinct that is not unlike other animals.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:49:57 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2015 11:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
>>> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
>>> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
>>> what it's like to starve and witnessed cannibalism as a daily event.
>>
>> I have canned food in the pantry. I don't have to hide food under my
>> bed. Never ran into a cannibal.
>
>In harder times I actually can imagine starving people resorting to
>cannibalism even if it never crossed their mind before. We as humans
>have a survival instinct that is not unlike other animals.

It happened in the Ukraine. People would die of starvation in the
streets, and their limbs would go missing. Kids frequently went
missing too, as my would-have-been-uncle did. Luckily my
grandmother/grandfather, mother and aunty made it to Germany after the
war.

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 9:50:07 PM UTC-4, Cheryl wrote:
> On 10/8/2015 11:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> I particularly love how they associate it with zombies, aliens and
> >> complete lunatics of one type or another. My Ukrainian grandmother
> >> still keeps suitcase of tinned food under the bed, because she knows
> >> what it's like to starve and witnessed cannibalism as a daily event.
> >
> > I have canned food in the pantry. I don't have to hide food under my
> > bed. Never ran into a cannibal.
>
> In harder times I actually can imagine starving people resorting to
> cannibalism even if it never crossed their mind before. We as humans
> have a survival instinct that is not unlike other animals.

It is exactly like other animals, because we're animals.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/8/2015 11:05 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You know that cannibals don't eat cans, right?
>
> ;-)
>
> -sw


You know that woman-stalkers are trash, yeah?

On 10/8/2015 11:05 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You know that cannibals don't eat cans, right?


But they DO stalk women:

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>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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