On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:10:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>> they went. Ick.
>>
>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>
>Tunnels throughout the inside would be some insect, most likely. I
>would send a complaint to Amazon and get my money back. If you like
>radishes, buy a pack of seeds and grow your own. They grow like weeds.
>I often even just grow them for ground cover for other plants.

I agree with you. Tunnels are insects. Interior cracks are from
growing too fast.
Janet US

On 8/15/2015 1:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/14/2015 10:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>>> smarten up.
>>> ====
>>>
>>
>> Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
>> than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
>> small appliances and computer supplies.
>
> Amazon.com is *now* a food retailer, in some areas. Amazon.com started
> out as an online book retailer.
>
> Target, CVS, Stop & Shop. Are those stores with physical buildings and
> the room to stock fresh items? That's the difference.
>
> I simply don't understand ordering something like produce online. I
> don't see how anyone could expect it to be good unless they went to
> select it themselves.
>
> Jill

When I was in high school in 1962/3 I worked for a grocery store that
delivered. Orders were called in, we put them together and I would
deliver them. We delivered high quality meat and produce. Peapod is big
in parts of New England, Schwann has been around for years.

Amazon is just taking a decades old tradition and computerizing it.
With high volume, it can be difficult to keep the quality high, but the
radishes appeared good on the surface. Chances are, any of us would
have picked them from the bin at our local store of greengrocer.

Given the sophistication of Amazon, they may have a great
produce/grocery warehouse. It should be as good as any supermarket.

Over the years I've occasionally had good looking produce that I've
picked ou that turned out to be a loser. I guess Amazon would say you
can't judge a book by its cover.

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:52:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/15/2015 1:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/14/2015 10:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>>>> smarten up.
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
>>> than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
>>> small appliances and computer supplies.
>>
>> Amazon.com is *now* a food retailer, in some areas. Amazon.com started
>> out as an online book retailer.
>>
>> Target, CVS, Stop & Shop. Are those stores with physical buildings and
>> the room to stock fresh items? That's the difference.
>>
>> I simply don't understand ordering something like produce online. I
>> don't see how anyone could expect it to be good unless they went to
>> select it themselves.
>>
>> Jill
>
>When I was in high school in 1962/3 I worked for a grocery store that
>delivered. Orders were called in, we put them together and I would
>deliver them. We delivered high quality meat and produce. Peapod is big
>in parts of New England, Schwann has been around for years.
>
>Amazon is just taking a decades old tradition and computerizing it.
>With high volume, it can be difficult to keep the quality high, but the
>radishes appeared good on the surface. Chances are, any of us would
>have picked them from the bin at our local store of greengrocer.
>
>Given the sophistication of Amazon, they may have a great
>produce/grocery warehouse. It should be as good as any supermarket.
>
>Over the years I've occasionally had good looking produce that I've
>picked ou that turned out to be a loser. I guess Amazon would say you
>can't judge a book by its cover.

Radishes are very easy to grow, they readily sprout but they are
subject to so many maladies that it's pretty much luck to harvest a
good crop... I no longer plant radishes, I've tired of misshapen roots
and those half eaten by larva. I do much better at the market... I
much prefer daikon.

On 8/15/2015 4:59 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>> they went. Ick.
>>
>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>
> http://homeguides.sfgate.com/black-r...hes-79443.html
>
Mmmm hmmm...

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/14/2015 10:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>>> smarten up.
>>> ====
>>>
>>
>> Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
>> than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
>> small appliances and computer supplies.
>
> Amazon.com is *now* a food retailer, in some areas. Amazon.com started
> out as an online book retailer.
>
> Target, CVS, Stop & Shop. Are those stores with physical buildings and
> the room to stock fresh items? That's the difference.
>
> I simply don't understand ordering something like produce online. I don't
> see how anyone could expect it to be good unless they went to select it
> themselves.

I know that you don't understand and I can't understand how you don't. I
have had produce delivered countless times with no problem. Had I seen
those radishes in the store, I would have bought them. They looked fine.
Until I cut into them.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/15/2015 1:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/14/2015 10:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food
>>>> wholesaler...
>>>> smarten up.
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
>>> than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
>>> small appliances and computer supplies.
>>
>> Amazon.com is *now* a food retailer, in some areas. Amazon.com started
>> out as an online book retailer.
>>
>> Target, CVS, Stop & Shop. Are those stores with physical buildings and
>> the room to stock fresh items? That's the difference.
>>
>> I simply don't understand ordering something like produce online. I
>> don't see how anyone could expect it to be good unless they went to
>> select it themselves.
>>
>> Jill
>
> When I was in high school in 1962/3 I worked for a grocery store that
> delivered. Orders were called in, we put them together and I would
> deliver them. We delivered high quality meat and produce. Peapod is big
> in parts of New England, Schwann has been around for years.
>
> Amazon is just taking a decades old tradition and computerizing it. With
> high volume, it can be difficult to keep the quality high, but the
> radishes appeared good on the surface. Chances are, any of us would have
> picked them from the bin at our local store of greengrocer.
>
> Given the sophistication of Amazon, they may have a great produce/grocery
> warehouse. It should be as good as any supermarket.
>
> Over the years I've occasionally had good looking produce that I've picked
> ou that turned out to be a loser. I guess Amazon would say you can't
> judge a book by its cover.

Indeed they did look good. And one thing that I do like about Amazon is
that if they run out of something or whatever it is doesn't look good enough
to sell, you get immediate notification that it is no longer available.
That allows you to make another choice.

Safeway does not do this. They do allow you to put down that you will
accept a substitution which I will not do because there is no telling what
they might choose. You might just order items for salad and then not get
them!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/15/2015 9:44 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>
>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>
>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>
>> Only in your area again?
>>
> Seems to be, Gary. It's been in the 90's here for most of the month. But
> the temps dropped in the last day. Right now it's 83° which is fantastic
> for this time of year.
>
> I can always find good fresh vegetables, either at nearby farm stands or
> the supermarket. I can't understand ordering produce online. <shrug>

And have you had a drought for the past year?

You probably also have different varieties of produce that grow there.
Things that do well in heat. I can attest from that year when I tried to
grow Walla Walla Sweets, that when you have a heat wave with a cool weather
crop, the crop fails.

On 8/15/2015 9:05 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 4:59:53 PM UTC-6, truth and honor wrote:
>> Je�us wrote:
>>>> I might make some
>>>>> Applets. Those were quite good.
>>> Oh god... not today... I can't deal with you
>>
>>
>> But you _always_ make time to criticize her...always...
>
> Defending the downtrodden is a tough job...perhaps a three month
> holiday would help. Why not try that? Perhaps the asylum from which
> you escaped might let you back in...you'll never know unless
> you try.
> =====
>
Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/15/2015 3:09 AM, Roy wrote:
Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/15/2015 3:01 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 10:43:48 AM UTC-6, truth and honor wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>>> smarten up.
>>> ====
>>
>>
>> Do you not get the concept of distribution centers and warehouses?
>>
>> They're every bit as much a food wholesaler as Sysco.
>>
>> Damn you're dumb.
>
> Sysco...yes, they distribute packaged crap mostly...and at huge markup
> as well. I wouldn't buy ANYTHING from them. Somehow they have huge
> influence on government-run enterprises or gov't supervised nursing or
> old-folk homes. Personally, I wouldn't patronize them but I am not
> in a position to make decisions for the institutions so mentioned.
>
> If Julie wants crappy produce, she certainly is going about it the right
> way.
>
> Now, shut your yap and get back under your drawbridge.
> ===
>
Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/15/2015 2:41 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
>>>> way
>>>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>>>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>>>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>>>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>>>> But
>>>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>>>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>>>> they went. Ick.
>>>>
>>>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>>>
> Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips and
> canola.
>
> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> smarten up.
> ====
>
Mmmm hmmm...

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>
>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>
>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>
>> Only in your area again?
>
>In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA. Probably in
>OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And vegetable
>stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.

Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
(maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
them going on and on about their health.
There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
Janet US

On 8/15/2015 5:44 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA. Probably in
>> OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>> other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And vegetable
>> stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>
> Julie, it isn't all about you.

Could'a fooled me.

> The left third of the US is in drought
> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket.

Seriously, does she think the only food they sell in Bothell comes from
CA or WA? I guess her supermarkets don't have access to the usual
transporation routes that might bring in food from other parts of the
US. It must be delivered by wagon train. Heh.

> Over time I have,
> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.

I could easily find someone to pick up a few items from the store for
me, and I live alone!

> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
> them going on and on about their health.

It must seem like a good excuse to order food online. Of course it
doesn't matter where she buys it, there is *always* something wrong.
Yet for some reason most of us, regardless of where we live, can find
produce that doesn't have problems all the time. Go figure.

> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
> it.

We know what her motivation for that is.

> Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
> Janet US
>
Yep. Life could be much, much worse for any of us.

Jill

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:58:36 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:01:51 +1000, Jeßus >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:12:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>>>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?
>>>
>>>I responded to her too soon. You said it all.
>>
>>I might put some radishes in this year, why not?
>>Each time I grow them, I end up with way too many, even though I plant
>>less seeds each time... oh well
>>
>>I have spent the past 6 days preparing my veggie garden. I pulled out
>>all the stops this year in a bid to break down the clay I have here.
>>Two large truckloads of sheep and cow poo, all of my poultry poo
>>collected over the past 5 years, some old sawdust, bales of old
>>sheep's fleece, large round bales of straw put through the
>>chipper/mulcher, blood and bone, dynamic lifter and about 40 bags of
>>lime... all mixed up and leveled out. Still need to mulch it, which I
>>hope to do today.
>>
>>I plan to grow a lot of tomatoes this year, and make a huge batch of
>>tomato sauce.
>
>Add gypsum to your soil. It will change the nature of the clay. See
>here for complete info. It's good stuff.
>http://www.cmtmi.com/gypsum.asp
>The amendments you are adding are excellent but they are needed in
>addition to gypsum.

Thanks Janet, sadly gypsum doesn't work on the type of clay I have.
I found that out after many bags of gypsum. There is a simple test you
can do to determine if the clay is suitable for gypsum or not (I found
this out after the fact, of course).

It's alright now, though. There's that much organic matter through the
soil now, I'm close to winning If I do the same next year, there
shouldn't be any clumping whatsoever.

On 2015-08-15 03:59:45 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> This is Amazon Fresh which is a grocery delivery service in this area.
> Almost everything I have gotten from them was fine. I did have two
> broken eggs once. The two green bell peppers in my last order were a
> little mushier than I would have liked. Wouldn't have been bad for
> cooking but I wanted them raw. I ate most of one, just had to cut off
> a tiny spot. But the other went South before I could eat it. The meat
> is excellent and up until now I have not have a produce problem that I
> can remember.
>
> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
> would figure though. We were told to expect this.

I just have to try to understand this. Do you really order produce
from Amazon? I have purchased cured meat products from them and a
whole cheese or two, some bottarga, and a whole dried bonito loin for
making katsuobushi now that I live out in the sticks but like fruits
and vegetables and meat and eggs? That is an act of faith that I am
unwilling to undertake.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
>>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
>>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>>
>>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>>
>>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>>
>>> Only in your area again?
>>
>>In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA. Probably
>>in
>>OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And vegetable
>>stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>
> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
> them going on and on about their health.
> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
> it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
> Janet US

Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't. But the fact of the
matter is, that we do have a drought here and we were told to expect it to
affect our crops and the food supply.

You, however are a bitch. Don't tell me to suck it up. You can just FOAD.
You are nasty, nasty, nasty. You are certainly not special and stop acting
like you think you are better than me!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/15/2015 5:44 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA.
>>> Probably in
>>> OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>> other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And
>>> vegetable
>>> stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>>
>> Julie, it isn't all about you.
>
> Could'a fooled me.
>
>> The left third of the US is in drought
>> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
>> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
>> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
>> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket.
>
> Seriously, does she think the only food they sell in Bothell comes from CA
> or WA? I guess her supermarkets don't have access to the usual
> transporation routes that might bring in food from other parts of the US.
> It must be delivered by wagon train. Heh.

Dur. I do know where it comes from. It will say, "Product of _____".
>
>> Over time I have,
>> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
>> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
>> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
>
> I could easily find someone to pick up a few items from the store for me,
> and I live alone!

That's you. I couldn't easily find anyone nor do I want to.
>
>> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
>> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
>> them going on and on about their health.
>
> It must seem like a good excuse to order food online. Of course it
> doesn't matter where she buys it, there is *always* something wrong. Yet
> for some reason most of us, regardless of where we live, can find produce
> that doesn't have problems all the time. Go figure.

So what! It's very convenient and the delivery is free. Why not do it? As
I said... The radishes looked fine from the outside. This isn't the first
time I have had them like that. They could have come from anywhere. The
fact that I had them delivered is a moot point. And you are a big fat liar.
There isn't *always* something wrong. I am eating bean tacos now with a
side of celery and radishes. The celery came from Amazon. It's fine.
>
>> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
>> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
>> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
>> it.
>
> We know what her motivation for that is.

I freaking asked about radishes. But could it be kept to that? No. Other
people dragged other stuff into it instead of answering the question as to
what it could be.
>
>> Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
>> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
>> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
>> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
>> Janet US
>>
> Yep. Life could be much, much worse for any of us.

So? I didn't bring all of that up to start with. I merely asked about
radishes.

"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-08-15 03:59:45 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> This is Amazon Fresh which is a grocery delivery service in this area.
>> Almost everything I have gotten from them was fine. I did have two
>> broken eggs once. The two green bell peppers in my last order were a
>> little mushier than I would have liked. Wouldn't have been bad for
>> cooking but I wanted them raw. I ate most of one, just had to cut off a
>> tiny spot. But the other went South before I could eat it. The meat is
>> excellent and up until now I have not have a produce problem that I can
>> remember.
>>
>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>
> I just have to try to understand this. Do you really order produce from
> Amazon? I have purchased cured meat products from them and a whole cheese
> or two, some bottarga, and a whole dried bonito loin for making
> katsuobushi now that I live out in the sticks but like fruits and
> vegetables and meat and eggs? That is an act of faith that I am unwilling
> to undertake.

Produce, fresh meats, eggs, dairy, canned stuff. Yes! I normally get the
delivery in the wee hours. Right now if you have Prime, there is no
delivery fee and some of it is cheaper than what I can get in the store.
Example being a type of diet juice that my daughter likes. The meat that I
get isn't cheap but it is the really good stuff. I don't normally buy cheap
meat anyway.

Amazon has always been good to fix any problems I have had. Not a problem
for me in any way.

On 8/16/2015 11:34 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2015-08-15 03:59:45 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>
>>> This is Amazon Fresh which is a grocery delivery service in this
>>> area. Almost everything I have gotten from them was fine. I did have
>>> two broken eggs once. The two green bell peppers in my last order
>>> were a little mushier than I would have liked. Wouldn't have been
>>> bad for cooking but I wanted them raw. I ate most of one, just had
>>> to cut off a tiny spot. But the other went South before I could eat
>>> it. The meat is excellent and up until now I have not have a produce
>>> problem that I can remember.
>>>
>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less
>>> produce available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I
>>> guess that would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>
>> I just have to try to understand this. Do you really order produce
>> from Amazon? I have purchased cured meat products from them and a
>> whole cheese or two, some bottarga, and a whole dried bonito loin for
>> making katsuobushi now that I live out in the sticks but like fruits
>> and vegetables and meat and eggs? That is an act of faith that I am
>> unwilling to undertake.
>
> Produce, fresh meats, eggs, dairy, canned stuff. Yes! I normally get
> the delivery in the wee hours. Right now if you have Prime, there is no
> delivery fee and some of it is cheaper than what I can get in the store.
> Example being a type of diet juice that my daughter likes. The meat
> that I get isn't cheap but it is the really good stuff. I don't
> normally buy cheap meat anyway.
>
> Amazon has always been good to fix any problems I have had. Not a
> problem for me in any way.

Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/16/2015 11:31 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/15/2015 5:44 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA.
>>>> Probably in
>>>> OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>>> other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And
>>>> vegetable
>>>> stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>>>
>>> Julie, it isn't all about you.
>>
>> Could'a fooled me.
>>
>>> The left third of the US is in drought
>>> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
>>> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
>>> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
>>> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket.
>>
>> Seriously, does she think the only food they sell in Bothell comes
>> from CA or WA? I guess her supermarkets don't have access to the
>> usual transporation routes that might bring in food from other parts
>> of the US. It must be delivered by wagon train. Heh.
>
> Dur. I do know where it comes from. It will say, "Product of _____".
>>
>>> Over time I have,
>>> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
>>> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
>>> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
>>
>> I could easily find someone to pick up a few items from the store for
>> me, and I live alone!
>
> That's you. I couldn't easily find anyone nor do I want to.
>>
>>> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
>>> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
>>> them going on and on about their health.
>>
>> It must seem like a good excuse to order food online. Of course it
>> doesn't matter where she buys it, there is *always* something wrong.
>> Yet for some reason most of us, regardless of where we live, can find
>> produce that doesn't have problems all the time. Go figure.
>
> So what! It's very convenient and the delivery is free. Why not do
> it? As I said... The radishes looked fine from the outside. This
> isn't the first time I have had them like that. They could have come
> from anywhere. The fact that I had them delivered is a moot point. And
> you are a big fat liar. There isn't *always* something wrong. I am
> eating bean tacos now with a side of celery and radishes. The celery
> came from Amazon. It's fine.
>>
>>> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
>>> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
>>> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
>>> it.
>>
>> We know what her motivation for that is.
>
> I freaking asked about radishes. But could it be kept to that? No.
> Other people dragged other stuff into it instead of answering the
> question as to what it could be.
>>
>>> Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
>>> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
>>> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
>>> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Yep. Life could be much, much worse for any of us.
>
> So? I didn't bring all of that up to start with. I merely asked about
> radishes.

Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/16/2015 11:26 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less
>>>>> produce
>>>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess
>>>>> that
>>>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>>>
>>>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>>>
>>>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>>>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>>>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Only in your area again?
>>>
>>> In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA.
>>> Probably in
>>> OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>> other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And
>>> vegetable
>>> stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>>
>> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
>> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
>> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
>> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
>> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
>> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
>> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
>> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
>> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
>> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
>> them going on and on about their health.
>> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
>> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
>> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
>> it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
>> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
>> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
>> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
>> Janet US
>
> Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't. But the fact of the
> matter is, that we do have a drought here and we were told to expect it
> to affect our crops and the food supply.
>
> You, however are a bitch. Don't tell me to suck it up. You can just
> FOAD. You are nasty, nasty, nasty. You are certainly not special and
> stop acting like you think you are better than me!

Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/16/2015 11:38 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>> Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't.
>
> Says more about THEM than it does about you, always has.
>
> Of COURSE high temps will change what's available,
> and what is considered 'high' is a LOCAL thing,
> not a universal thing.
>
> Hit 97 today where I live, old record for the day was 89.
> But humidity was been low, and that's helped a LOT.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Mmmm hmmm...

On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:37:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:58:36 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:01:51 +1000, Jeßus >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:12:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>>>>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?
>>>>
>>>>I responded to her too soon. You said it all.
>>>
>>>I might put some radishes in this year, why not?
>>>Each time I grow them, I end up with way too many, even though I plant
>>>less seeds each time... oh well
>>>
>>>I have spent the past 6 days preparing my veggie garden. I pulled out
>>>all the stops this year in a bid to break down the clay I have here.
>>>Two large truckloads of sheep and cow poo, all of my poultry poo
>>>collected over the past 5 years, some old sawdust, bales of old
>>>sheep's fleece, large round bales of straw put through the
>>>chipper/mulcher, blood and bone, dynamic lifter and about 40 bags of
>>>lime... all mixed up and leveled out. Still need to mulch it, which I
>>>hope to do today.
>>>
>>>I plan to grow a lot of tomatoes this year, and make a huge batch of
>>>tomato sauce.
>>
>>Add gypsum to your soil. It will change the nature of the clay. See
>>here for complete info. It's good stuff.
>>http://www.cmtmi.com/gypsum.asp
>>The amendments you are adding are excellent but they are needed in
>>addition to gypsum.
>
>Thanks Janet, sadly gypsum doesn't work on the type of clay I have.
>I found that out after many bags of gypsum. There is a simple test you
>can do to determine if the clay is suitable for gypsum or not (I found
>this out after the fact, of course).
>
>It's alright now, though. There's that much organic matter through the
>soil now, I'm close to winning If I do the same next year, there
>shouldn't be any clumping whatsoever.

I'm sorry to hear that gypsum won't work for you. It works a charm
for me. It's been probably 10 years since I applied any gypsum. I
need to do it again this fall. I get soil that I can't put a shovel
in more than an inch or so Thanks for the reminder
Janet US

On 8/16/2015 1:18 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:37:18 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:58:36 -0600, Janet B >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:01:51 +1000, Jeßus >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:12:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>>>>>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?
>>>>>
>>>>> I responded to her too soon. You said it all.
>>>>
>>>> I might put some radishes in this year, why not?
>>>> Each time I grow them, I end up with way too many, even though I plant
>>>> less seeds each time... oh well
>>>>
>>>> I have spent the past 6 days preparing my veggie garden. I pulled out
>>>> all the stops this year in a bid to break down the clay I have here.
>>>> Two large truckloads of sheep and cow poo, all of my poultry poo
>>>> collected over the past 5 years, some old sawdust, bales of old
>>>> sheep's fleece, large round bales of straw put through the
>>>> chipper/mulcher, blood and bone, dynamic lifter and about 40 bags of
>>>> lime... all mixed up and leveled out. Still need to mulch it, which I
>>>> hope to do today.
>>>>
>>>> I plan to grow a lot of tomatoes this year, and make a huge batch of
>>>> tomato sauce.
>>>
>>> Add gypsum to your soil. It will change the nature of the clay. See
>>> here for complete info. It's good stuff.
>>> http://www.cmtmi.com/gypsum.asp
>>> The amendments you are adding are excellent but they are needed in
>>> addition to gypsum.
>>
>> Thanks Janet, sadly gypsum doesn't work on the type of clay I have.
>> I found that out after many bags of gypsum. There is a simple test you
>> can do to determine if the clay is suitable for gypsum or not (I found
>> this out after the fact, of course).
>>
>> It's alright now, though. There's that much organic matter through the
>> soil now, I'm close to winning If I do the same next year, there
>> shouldn't be any clumping whatsoever.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that gypsum won't work for you. It works a charm
> for me. It's been probably 10 years since I applied any gypsum. I
> need to do it again this fall. I get soil that I can't put a shovel
> in more than an inch or so Thanks for the reminder
> Janet US
>

Mmmm hmmm...

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet B" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
>>>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
>>>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>>>
>>>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>>>
>>>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>>>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>>>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Only in your area again?
>>>
>>>In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA. Probably
>>>in
>>>OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>>other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And vegetable
>>>stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>>
>> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
>> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
>> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
>> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
>> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
>> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
>> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
>> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
>> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
>> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
>> them going on and on about their health.
>> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
>> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
>> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
>> it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
>> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
>> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
>> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
>> Janet US
>
>Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't. But the fact of the
>matter is, that we do have a drought here and we were told to expect it to
>affect our crops and the food supply.
>
>You, however are a bitch. Don't tell me to suck it up. You can just FOAD.
>You are nasty, nasty, nasty. You are certainly not special and stop acting
>like you think you are better than me!

In your very first response in this thread, you brought in all the
other stuff.
There was nothing nasty about telling you that everyone has problems
and they don't use them as an a constant explanation why they didn't
do something. I also told you that the problem is bigger than what
surrounds you. You replied to Gary "Please stop thinking that every
other place in the world is like where you live." The converse is
also true, Bothell and the Bove family are not alone in problems and
tragedy. BTW, I have never told anyone to die. Even though I seem to
have gotten stuck in your craw by telling you some truths, telling me
to die is a bit much. Are you stomping your feet and sticking out
your tongue in addition to calling names?
Janet US

On 8/16/2015 1:43 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> There was nothing nasty about telling you that everyone has problems
> and they don't use them as an a constant explanation why they didn't
> do something. I also told you that the problem is bigger than what
> surrounds you. You replied to Gary "Please stop thinking that every
> other place in the world is like where you live." The converse is
> also true, Bothell and the Bove family are not alone in problems and
> tragedy. BTW, I have never told anyone to die. Even though I seem to
> have gotten stuck in your craw by telling you some truths, telling me
> to die is a bit much. Are you stomping your feet and sticking out
> your tongue in addition to calling names?
> Janet US
>
>
Mmmm hmmm...

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>>Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't.
>
> Says more about THEM than it does about you, always has.
>
> Of COURSE high temps will change what's available,
> and what is considered 'high' is a LOCAL thing,
> not a universal thing.
>
> Hit 97 today where I live, old record for the day was 89.
> But humidity was been low, and that's helped a LOT.

Our temps are down and humidity up. It is 72 in the house and I am
shivering as I have adjusted to the hotter weather. Temp. is supposed to go
back up tomorrow.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less
>>>>>> produce
>>>>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>>>>
>>>>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>>>>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>>>>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only in your area again?
>>>>
>>>>In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA.
>>>>Probably
>>>>in
>>>>OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>>>other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And
>>>>vegetable
>>>>stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>>>
>>> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
>>> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
>>> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
>>> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
>>> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
>>> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
>>> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
>>> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
>>> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
>>> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
>>> them going on and on about their health.
>>> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
>>> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
>>> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
>>> it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
>>> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
>>> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
>>> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't. But the fact of the
>>matter is, that we do have a drought here and we were told to expect it to
>>affect our crops and the food supply.
>>
>>You, however are a bitch. Don't tell me to suck it up. You can just
>>FOAD.
>>You are nasty, nasty, nasty. You are certainly not special and stop
>>acting
>>like you think you are better than me!
>
> In your very first response in this thread, you brought in all the
> other stuff.
> There was nothing nasty about telling you that everyone has problems
> and they don't use them as an a constant explanation why they didn't
> do something. I also told you that the problem is bigger than what
> surrounds you. You replied to Gary "Please stop thinking that every
> other place in the world is like where you live." The converse is
> also true, Bothell and the Bove family are not alone in problems and
> tragedy. BTW, I have never told anyone to die. Even though I seem to
> have gotten stuck in your craw by telling you some truths, telling me
> to die is a bit much. Are you stomping your feet and sticking out
> your tongue in addition to calling names?
> Janet US

I never said that Janet. But you seem to think so.

I mentioned the radish problem Then others asked why I didn't just go out
and get them and I said why. But all that is beside the point. I was
asking about the radishes. And I do not stomp my feet or stick out my
tongue. I didn't even do that when I was a kid. I suspect that you did
though.

On 8/16/2015 4:02 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't.
>>
>> Says more about THEM than it does about you, always has.
>>
>> Of COURSE high temps will change what's available,
>> and what is considered 'high' is a LOCAL thing,
>> not a universal thing.
>>
>> Hit 97 today where I live, old record for the day was 89.
>> But humidity was been low, and that's helped a LOT.
>
> Our temps are down and humidity up. It is 72 in the house and I am
> shivering as I have adjusted to the hotter weather. Temp. is supposed
> to go back up tomorrow.


Mmmm hmmm...

Janet B wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>
> >
> >"Gary" wrote:
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
> >>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
> >>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
> >>
> >> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
> >>
> >> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
> >> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
> >> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
> >>
> >> Only in your area again?
> >
> >In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA. Probably in
> >OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
> >other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't.

You are correct, evidently. In my area, we have trucks that deliver
produce from all over the world on a regular basis. I've never seen
"Less variety and smaller displays" in any of my grocery stores.

> >And vegetable
> >stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.

If you ask, "vegetable stands? What are those?" then you've never seen
them anywhere or even heard of them? Please.

>
> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket.

In your area too? What are the odds? ;-D

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:04:47 PM UTC-5, truth and honor wrote:
>
> > ===
>
> Do not EVER presume to give ME any orders, you slithering little skunk.
>
Like you always bark out orders?
>
> I'd be pleased to mess you up big time!
>
Everyone is afraid of your anonymous troll ass. We're all shaking,
shaking with laughter at your pathetic impotence.

--Bryan

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:04:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet B" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less
>>>>>>> produce
>>>>>>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
>>>>>> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
>>>>>> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only in your area again?
>>>>>
>>>>>In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA.
>>>>>Probably
>>>>>in
>>>>>OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
>>>>>other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And
>>>>>vegetable
>>>>>stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>>>>
>>>> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
>>>> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
>>>> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
>>>> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
>>>> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
>>>> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
>>>> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
>>>> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
>>>> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
>>>> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
>>>> them going on and on about their health.
>>>> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
>>>> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
>>>> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
>>>> it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
>>>> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
>>>> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
>>>> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't. But the fact of the
>>>matter is, that we do have a drought here and we were told to expect it to
>>>affect our crops and the food supply.
>>>
>>>You, however are a bitch. Don't tell me to suck it up. You can just
>>>FOAD.
>>>You are nasty, nasty, nasty. You are certainly not special and stop
>>>acting
>>>like you think you are better than me!
>>
>> In your very first response in this thread, you brought in all the
>> other stuff.
>> There was nothing nasty about telling you that everyone has problems
>> and they don't use them as an a constant explanation why they didn't
>> do something. I also told you that the problem is bigger than what
>> surrounds you. You replied to Gary "Please stop thinking that every
>> other place in the world is like where you live." The converse is
>> also true, Bothell and the Bove family are not alone in problems and
>> tragedy. BTW, I have never told anyone to die. Even though I seem to
>> have gotten stuck in your craw by telling you some truths, telling me
>> to die is a bit much. Are you stomping your feet and sticking out
>> your tongue in addition to calling names?
>> Janet US
>
>I never said that Janet. But you seem to think so.

Yes you did. You said "You can just FOAD." It's in the last paragraph
written by you above.

Doris

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:46:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
> >>> available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
> >>> would figure though. We were told to expect this.
> >>
> >> What's the theory behind that, Julie?
> >>
> >> Your baby high temps (70'sF - to rarely 90F) are nothing compared to
> >> mine, Jill's, and others....yet we still find plenty of vegetable
> >> variety available in all the grocery stores, vegetable stands, etc.
> >>
> >> Only in your area again?
> >
> >In case you haven't noticed, there is a drought here and in CA. Probably in
> >OR too. That is affecting everything. Please stop thinking that every
> >other place in the world is like where you live. It isn't. And vegetable
> >stands? What are those? I've never seen anything like that here.
>
> Julie, it isn't all about you. The left third of the US is in drought
> (maybe more) The top half of my state has been declared a disaster
> area because of drought. The rest of the my state (and many other
> states is burning up). Temperatures here have been well over 100F. I
> can still get good vegetables at any supermarket. Over time I have,
> and I am sure many others here, have gone to the supermarket with
> various braces, slings, stitches, bruises and abrasions or a friend or
> family member went for us if we truly couldn't leave the house.
> BTW, there are people on this newsgroup that have most all of you
> medical/physical problems and most probably worse and you don't hear
> them going on and on about their health.
> There are people on this newsgroup that have daily irritations,
> serious setbacks in their finances and surroundings, daily tasks, work
> as well as interactions with family and they don't go on and on about
> it. Ranchers are having to go out and kill their livestock that have
> been burned and pick up the stock that is already dead. Farmers have
> lost all of their crops. Suck it up! No one thinks your travails are
> special. It's just part of day-to-day life.
> Janet US

+1000

Janet UK

MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:04:47 PM UTC-5, truth and honor wrote:
>>
>>> ===
>>
>> Do not EVER presume to give ME any orders, you slithering little skunk.
>>
> Like you always bark out orders?
>>
>> I'd be pleased to mess you up big time!
>>
> Everyone is afraid of your anonymous troll ass. We're all shaking,
> shaking with laughter at your pathetic impotence.
>
> --Bryan
>

ESAD head case.

Janet wrote:
>> It's just part of day-to-day life.
>> >Janet US
> +1000
>
> Janet UK


Oh look at the bully sisters pack up...

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> >>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
> >> >>way
> >> >>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
> >> >>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
> >> >>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end.
> >> >>I
> >> >>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
> >> >>But
> >> >>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
> >> >>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So
> >> >>out
> >> >>they went. Ick.
> >> >>
> >> >>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
> >> >
> > Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips and
> > canola.
> >
> > I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> > smarten up.
> > ====
>
> You only buy from Wholesalers?

No, but I have the option of buying "selected" merchandise from
a supply business which services Mom & Pop stores, bush camps,
individuals, cafes, etc., at discounted prices...but not as
cheaply as true wholesale businesses.

I don't think you know how business works in regard to retail and
wholesale...many times the lines are blurred when these so-called "supply outlets" get in the mix. Times have changed, there's no
doubt about it.

If you want wholesale prices now-a-days even the supplier as
in a farm sales outlet can fool you and one can be paying near full retail price without realizing it.
========

On 8/17/2015 12:12 AM, Doris Night wrote:

>>> There was nothing nasty about telling you that everyone has problems
>>> and they don't use them as an a constant explanation why they didn't
>>> do something. I also told you that the problem is bigger than what
>>> surrounds you. You replied to Gary "Please stop thinking that every
>>> other place in the world is like where you live." The converse is
>>> also true, Bothell and the Bove family are not alone in problems and
>>> tragedy. BTW, I have never told anyone to die. Even though I seem to
>>> have gotten stuck in your craw by telling you some truths, telling me
>>> to die is a bit much. Are you stomping your feet and sticking out
>>> your tongue in addition to calling names?
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I never said that Janet. But you seem to think so.
>
> Yes you did. You said "You can just FOAD." It's in the last paragraph
> written by you above.
>
> Doris
>

Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/17/2015 5:09 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:12:20 -0400, Doris Night >
> wrote:
>
>> Yes you did. You said "You can just FOAD." It's in the last paragraph
>> written by you above.
>
> She SAID that because you WERE being a bitch, so it was somewhat deserved.

Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/17/2015 5:06 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:02:49 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:26:15 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where did I say this was all about me? I didn't.
>>>
>>> Says more about THEM than it does about you, always has.
>>>
>>> Of COURSE high temps will change what's available,
>>> and what is considered 'high' is a LOCAL thing,
>>> not a universal thing.
>>>
>>> Hit 97 today where I live, old record for the day was 89.
>>> But humidity was been low, and that's helped a LOT.
>>
>> Our temps are down and humidity up. It is 72 in the house and I am
>> shivering as I have adjusted to the hotter weather. Temp. is supposed to go
>> back up tomorrow.
>
>
> It never got THAT cold overnight here outside, let alone inside.
> Was still 81 inside when I got up a few hours ago.
>
> Don't LIKE AC, but would almost kill for it right now.
>
> THEN a mid-air collision of 2 planes near here, REALLY not a good day.
>
>
>
>
>

Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/16/2015 11:01 PM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 12:04:47 PM UTC-5, truth and honor wrote:
>>
>>> ===
>>
>> Do not EVER presume to give ME any orders, you slithering little skunk.
>>
> Like you always bark out orders?
>>
>> I'd be pleased to mess you up big time!
>>
> Everyone is afraid of your anonymous troll ass. We're all shaking,
> shaking with laughter at your pathetic impotence.
>

Mmmm hmmm...