Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 18:23:32 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-14 22:37:34 +0000, Roy said:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 4:12:05 PM UTC-6, truth and honor wrote:
>>> Nothing of importance.
>>> ===
>>
>> Glad I missed it. Unsure why I was notified...
>
> You'd think he'd have figured things out by now, but no... still
> replying to the casa troll.
>

Your censorious ways can _always_ be defeated, shrimpie!

LOL!!!!

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:23:23 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> On 2015-08-14 05:47:02 +0000, sf said:
>
> > BTW: did you notice your post in reply to me in this thread was
> > canceled as well as mine?
>
> No; once read and acknowledged/responded to, I don't watch. I did NOT
> see my initial chanterelle post, nor the first 4 responses to it,
> though, and so started another topic. Then the *continuing* thread
> began appearing. I went to an abandoned newsreader and found them all,
> so assumed some filters in my regular newsreader were responsible.
>
> > Every now and then one of my posts doesn't
> > stay on the server, but I see replies so I know it was generated. I
> > always figured it was astraweb's fault somehow... but you're not on
> > astraweb, so I don't know what happened this time.
>
> Yeah, it just sounds like spooks in the newsreaders. I can't imagine
> it's taking place at a higher level.

I used to go to GG to check, but it has been such a mess in the last
few years that I don't bother with that anymore.

--

sf

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > sf wrote:
> >
> > > BTW: did you notice your post in reply to me in this thread was
> > > canceled as well as mine? Every now and then one of my posts doesn't
> > > stay on the server, but I see replies so I know it was generated. I
> > > always figured it was astraweb's fault somehow... but you're not on
> > > astraweb, so I don't know what happened this time.
> >
> > That was me that did that.
>
> hehheh ;-D
>
> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.

Oh, god. You are such a suck up.

--

sf

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>truth and honor wrote:
>>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> > That was me that did that.
>> >
>> > -sw
>>
>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>
>> Do it NOW!
>
>Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>life and move on. Good grief!

Brilliant. Why don't you keep on encouraging the little turd Gary?

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:27:09 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>
>> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Are you a child who has to beg for permission, or a man?
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, okay already. You're killfiled. I can't imagine what drives
>>>>> people like you to pull a switchblade on somebody you don't even know.
>>>>> Unimaginable. On the other hand, if I did understand you, I'd probably
>>>>> have to have the same biology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately I don't.
>>>>
>>>> He has definitely gone off the deep end *again* and kissed sobriety
>>>> goodbye.
>>>>
>>> You ****ing stupid old crone, I never bought into the weakling "sobriety"
>>> culture that believes in bullshit higher powers, and when I was drinking
>>> heavily, that was when I was nicer.
>>
>> Oh sure, you _think_ you were nicer, alky's always do...
>>
>>> I have used alcohol to excess (which
>>> I used to do almost every day) exactly twice since January, and both
>>> occasions were planned.
>>
>> Oh how nice you plan for your rfc binges...
>
> It also explains his long absences. He has other interests when he's
> sober.
>

Here's hoping he gets whatever help he needs and kicks it.

You're somewhere inside that ball of hurt Bryan, let yourself free.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:54:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "KenK" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I love pot pies. Just made one yesterday. Unfortunately I do not like
> > buying the expensive pie shells. Making my own crust is beyond my
> > capabilities.
> >
> > My probably futile question:
> >
> > Is there any way to make a faux pot pie? A casserole with all the
> > ingredients except the pie crust, but with the addition of comething to
> > give at least a small hint of pie crust taste?
> >
> > Probably hopeless but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
> >
> > TIA
>
> Ken, do you have a food processor?
>
> If so, look he
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuBatgKkv0
>
I broached that subject with him months ago if not more than a year
and the answer was that he didn't want to do it.

--

sf

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:47:10 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> That was me that did that.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>
>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>
>> Do it NOW!
>
> Look at the little weasel puffing out his chest like that.
>
Oh his day is coming, trust me on that one...

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>
>>> Do it NOW!
>>
>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>> life and move on. Good grief!
>
> You're so clueless.
>

Sad too.

I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW: did you notice your post in reply to me in this thread was
>>>> canceled as well as mine? Every now and then one of my posts doesn't
>>>> stay on the server, but I see replies so I know it was generated. I
>>>> always figured it was astraweb's fault somehow... but you're not on
>>>> astraweb, so I don't know what happened this time.
>>>
>>> That was me that did that.
>>
>> hehheh ;-D
>>
>> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
>> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
>> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.
>
> Oh, god. You are such a suck up.
>


It was truly an awkward ass kiss...

Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>
>>> Do it NOW!
>>
>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>> life and move on. Good grief!
>
> Brilliant. Why don't you keep on encouraging the little turd Gary?
>

You're lucky continents separate us, I mean REALLY lucky, rabbit killer.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:50:32 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> truth and honor wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>> That was me that did that.
> >>>>
> >>>> -sw
> >>>
> >>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
> >>>
> >>> Do it NOW!
> >>
> >> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
> >> life and move on. Good grief!
> >
> > You're so clueless.
> >
>
> Sad too.
>
> I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.

He most certainly does.

--

sf

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:50:32 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do it NOW!
>>>>
>>>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>>>> life and move on. Good grief!
>>>
>>> You're so clueless.
>>>
>>
>> Sad too.
>>
>> I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.
>
> He most certainly does.

There is right here, undeniably, a "Lord of the Flies" mentality to this
group.

And I hate to say this, but...it's the MAJORITY of posters here who
evince it.

Wow.

So really some children _never_ grow up is the final summation.

Oh boy is that a heart breaker.

Gary has better in him.

I wonder why he tossed in with the abusers.

Disappointing for sure.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:18:31 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:50:32 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> truth and honor wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>> That was me that did that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -sw
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do it NOW!
> >>>>
> >>>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
> >>>> life and move on. Good grief!
> >>>
> >>> You're so clueless.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sad too.
> >>
> >> I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.
> >
> > He most certainly does.
>
> There is right here, undeniably, a "Lord of the Flies" mentality to this
> group.
>
> And I hate to say this, but...it's the MAJORITY of posters here who
> evince it.
>
> Wow.
>
> So really some children _never_ grow up is the final summation.
>
> Oh boy is that a heart breaker.
>
> Gary has better in him.
>
> I wonder why he tossed in with the abusers.
>
> Disappointing for sure.
>

Typical schoolyard behavior where weaklings throw in with the bullies
so they won't get picked on.

--

sf

On 2015-08-15 02:43:30 +0000, sf said:

> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW: did you notice your post in reply to me in this thread was
>>>> canceled as well as mine? Every now and then one of my posts doesn't
>>>> stay on the server, but I see replies so I know it was generated. I
>>>> always figured it was astraweb's fault somehow... but you're not on
>>>> astraweb, so I don't know what happened this time.
>>>
>>> That was me that did that.
>>
>> hehheh ;-D
>>
>> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
>> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
>> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.
>
> Oh, god. You are such a suck up.

Oh he is! Me too. Hate him if you must, but the guy can clearly ****ing cook!

I'm here for the info, expertise, and utilitarian caveats. The guy has
this. I'm parades around the house in a garter-belt on the weekends,
and draws frightening dystopian pictures in his own blood during the
week; I don't really care about all that.

I really do care about the whole prepping and cooking and eating thing,
and it's great when you can wring a nickel's worth out of it in tat rfc!

Even if from the devil!

On 2015-08-15 02:43:44 +0000, Jeßus said:

> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>
>>> Do it NOW!
>>
>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>> life and move on. Good grief!
>
> Brilliant. Why don't you keep on encouraging the little turd Gary?

Hey! If you two want to give him a double jack-me-off, can I help you
make it a triple?

It's such an outrage I just gotta chip in!

On 2015-08-15 02:45:25 +0000, sf said:

>> Or a can of cream of whatever soup in a recipe.
>
> Or say that you use the entire egg to make mayonnaise.

Uh... what are we cooking again...?

On 2015-08-15 02:48:34 +0000, sf said:

> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:54:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I love pot pies. Just made one yesterday. Unfortunately I do not like
>>> buying the expensive pie shells. Making my own crust is beyond my
>>> capabilities.
>>>
>>> My probably futile question:
>>>
>>> Is there any way to make a faux pot pie? A casserole with all the
>>> ingredients except the pie crust, but with the addition of comething to
>>> give at least a small hint of pie crust taste?
>>>
>>> Probably hopeless but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Ken, do you have a food processor?
>>
>> If so, look he
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuBatgKkv0
>>
> I broached that subject with him months ago if not more than a year
> and the answer was that he didn't want to do it.

I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.

On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 1:08:31 AM UTC-5, gtr wrote:
>
> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.
>
>
Why?

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2015081423082851140-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2015-08-15 02:48:34 +0000, sf said:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:54:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I love pot pies. Just made one yesterday. Unfortunately I do not like
>>>> buying the expensive pie shells. Making my own crust is beyond my
>>>> capabilities.
>>>>
>>>> My probably futile question:
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to make a faux pot pie? A casserole with all the
>>>> ingredients except the pie crust, but with the addition of comething to
>>>> give at least a small hint of pie crust taste?
>>>>
>>>> Probably hopeless but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Ken, do you have a food processor?
>>>
>>> If so, look he
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuBatgKkv0
>>>
>> I broached that subject with him months ago if not more than a year
>> and the answer was that he didn't want to do it.
>
> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.

What she left out was that I also posted (in the same post) a way to make it
manually.

"... If not you can use a pastry cutter, and if you don't have one of those,
cut
the fat in with a knife and proceed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCyDYYVILg"


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"gtr" > wrote in message news:201508142305521197-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2015-08-15 02:43:30 +0000, sf said:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTW: did you notice your post in reply to me in this thread was
>>>>> canceled as well as mine? Every now and then one of my posts doesn't
>>>>> stay on the server, but I see replies so I know it was generated. I
>>>>> always figured it was astraweb's fault somehow... but you're not on
>>>>> astraweb, so I don't know what happened this time.
>>>>
>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>
>>> hehheh ;-D
>>>
>>> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
>>> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
>>> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.
>>
>> Oh, god. You are such a suck up.
>
> Oh he is! Me too. Hate him if you must, but the guy can clearly ****ing
> cook!
>
> I'm here for the info, expertise, and utilitarian caveats. The guy has
> this. I'm parades around the house in a garter-belt on the weekends, and
> draws frightening dystopian pictures in his own blood during the week; I
> don't really care about all that.
>
> I really do care about the whole prepping and cooking and eating thing,
> and it's great when you can wring a nickel's worth out of it in tat rfc!
>
> Even if from the devil!



Agreed! I also am not interested in fights, bitching, general nastiness,
politics (I subscribe to a group specifically for that) or any of the other
myriad of stuff argued about here. All I come here for is cooking and
food. If I am attacked I will retaliate but that is not why I am here.

What are you cooking this week Mr G?



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Janet" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, racemaildrop-
> says...
>>
>> "The Other Guy" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> >On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:52:02 -0400, "Robert"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>"KenK" wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >>
>> >>>I love pot pies. Just made one yesterday. Unfortunately I do not like
>> >>>buying the expensive pie shells. Making my own crust is beyond my
>> >>>capabilities.
>> >>>
>> >>>My probably futile question:
>> >>>
>> >>>Is there any way to make a faux pot pie? A casserole with all the
>> >>>ingredients except the pie crust, but with the addition of comething
>> >>>to
>> >>>give at least a small hint of pie crust taste?
>> >>>
>> >>>Probably hopeless but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
>> >>
>> >>You could put the filling into bread bowls. If you can make bread?
>> >
>> >OR use pre-made pie crust. Widely available.
>> >
>>
>> Did you not read the part "I do not like buying the expensive pie
>> shells".
>
> Ready made pastry is NOT a ready made baked pie shell; or expensive.
>
> It's raw pastry which you roll out, just as if you had made the pastry
> yourself. If he hadn't got a rolling pin, a glass bottle works
> perfectly.
>
> Janet UK

I've never seen that here. Only the preformed shells or the circles.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:07:47 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> On 2015-08-15 02:45:25 +0000, sf said:
>
> >> Or a can of cream of whatever soup in a recipe.
> >
> > Or say that you use the entire egg to make mayonnaise.
>
> Uh... what are we cooking again...?

His goose.

--

sf

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:08:28 -0700, gtr > wrote:

> On 2015-08-15 02:48:34 +0000, sf said:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:54:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "KenK" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> I love pot pies. Just made one yesterday. Unfortunately I do not like
> >>> buying the expensive pie shells. Making my own crust is beyond my
> >>> capabilities.
> >>>
> >>> My probably futile question:
> >>>
> >>> Is there any way to make a faux pot pie? A casserole with all the
> >>> ingredients except the pie crust, but with the addition of comething to
> >>> give at least a small hint of pie crust taste?
> >>>
> >>> Probably hopeless but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >>
> >> Ken, do you have a food processor?
> >>
> >> If so, look he
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuBatgKkv0
> >>
> > I broached that subject with him months ago if not more than a year
> > and the answer was that he didn't want to do it.
>
> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.

Buckle up and get over it! After you conquer your fear, you'll be
making the best damned pie crust and pizza dough you've ever made in
your life! Start your intensive therapy by chopping a boatload of
vegetables for mirepoix in it and freeze it for late in sizes
appropriate for your usage (I use snack baggies).

I've posted my recipe for pie crust before, but I won't make you
search for it. Watch the video, then follow this recipe and you can't
go wrong. By the time your dough has finished resting, moisture has
redistributed and the dough will not appear dry. If it feels cold and
hard, let it warm up a bit (time depends on room temperature) to
facilitate rolling. You can always make your pie dough the day before
- no harm, no foul. Just remember to let it warm up to a flexible
stage. Pie dough wants to be cool, not hot, not cold - cool.

Food Processor Buttery Flaky Pie Crust (aka: Pte brisée)
Giada's original recipe with my variations

Ingredients:

1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour (or 1 ½ cups flour)
1/4 teaspoon salt

(½ t sugar, or more for pte sucrée)

1/2 cup butter, chilled and diced

1/4 cup ice water (this is always the perfect amount for me, YMMV)

*can add 1/4c grated parmesan cheese to the flour and salt, increase
water to 1/3c (I do this for chicken pot pie)

Directions

1. Measure the flour into the processor with the regular blade
attached. Add the unsalted butter, cut into cubes, and shortening,
cut into cubes. (Your fat should be frozen or very cold. You may
vary the proportions, or use some lard, but the total should be 9
tablespoons.) Add salt. Pulse three times with three counts per
pulse to mix the ingredients lightly.

2. With the motor running, pour ice water into the work bowl just
until the dough just starts to get noticeably crumbly. Don't wait
until it is a big clump or it will be way too wet and will turn out
tough.

3. Stop the machine, dump the crumbly dough into a bowl or on the
counter, and gather the dough into a ball with your hand. You can
squeeze it a bit to make it stick together. If it just won't form a
ball, add a tiny bit more water. (Note that when you are making crust
in the food processor, you will use less water than most recipes call
for.)

Wrap your dough ball in waxed paper or plastic wrap and chill it about
30 minutes in the refrigerator. Roll it out on a cool surface if you
can. Then follow your pie recipe for baking.

Note: 1 1/4 cups flour perfectly works for me.

--

sf

On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 9:43:45 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:07:47 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
> > On 2015-08-15 02:45:25 +0000, sf said:
> >
> > >> Or a can of cream of whatever soup in a recipe.
> > >
> > > Or say that you use the entire egg to make mayonnaise.
>
Only a slob uses whole egg in mayonnaise.
> >
> > Uh... what are we cooking again...?
>
> His goose.
>
Your pathetic hubby is late for his handjob.
>
> sf

--Bryan

On 2015-08-15 07:53:42 +0000, Ophelia said:

> What are you cooking this week Mr G?

Eating left-overs this weekend: Pasta with pollack roe, and chicken
porkolt (with a heaping helping of that Spanish paprika we got). The
wife is likely making her third tomato soup, this time and Indian
incarnation. The garden is abundunt right now with tomatoes. But I'm
going to be digging through some cookbooks and planning some serious
challenges (for me) for the upcoming week.

On 2015-08-15 07:25:15 +0000, said:

> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 1:08:31 AM UTC-5, gtr wrote:
>>
>> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.
>>
>>
> Why?

It's so big and mighty and has so many parts. It's like really
scientific. The only time I see a use for it, is when I watch, for
instance, one of Hubert Kellar's shows, and there he's making something
so exotic it's strictly a floor-show, not instruction. Bless him!

I've never managed to merge it into food prep.

On 2015-08-15 15:15:54 +0000, sf said:

> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:08:28 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-15 02:48:34 +0000, sf said:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:54:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I love pot pies. Just made one yesterday. Unfortunately I do not like
>>>>> buying the expensive pie shells. Making my own crust is beyond my
>>>>> capabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> My probably futile question:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way to make a faux pot pie? A casserole with all the
>>>>> ingredients except the pie crust, but with the addition of comething to
>>>>> give at least a small hint of pie crust taste?
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably hopeless but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Ken, do you have a food processor?
>>>>
>>>> If so, look he
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuBatgKkv0
>>>>
>>> I broached that subject with him months ago if not more than a year
>>> and the answer was that he didn't want to do it.
>>
>> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.
>
> Buckle up and get over it! After you conquer your fear, you'll be
> making the best damned pie crust and pizza dough you've ever made in
> your life! Start your intensive therapy by chopping a boatload of
> vegetables for mirepoix in it and freeze it for late in sizes
> appropriate for your usage (I use snack baggies).
>
> I've posted my recipe for pie crust before, but I won't make you
> search for it. Watch the video, then follow this recipe and you can't
> go wrong. By the time your dough has finished resting, moisture has
> redistributed and the dough will not appear dry. If it feels cold and
> hard, let it warm up a bit (time depends on room temperature) to
> facilitate rolling. You can always make your pie dough the day before
> - no harm, no foul. Just remember to let it warm up to a flexible
> stage. Pie dough wants to be cool, not hot, not cold - cool.
>
> Food Processor Buttery Flaky Pie Crust (aka: Pte brisée)
> Giada's original recipe with my variations
>
> Ingredients:
>
> 1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour (or 1 ½ cups flour)
> 1/4 teaspoon salt
>
> (½ t sugar, or more for pte sucrée)
>
> 1/2 cup butter, chilled and diced
>
> 1/4 cup ice water (this is always the perfect amount for me, YMMV)
>
> *can add 1/4c grated parmesan cheese to the flour and salt, increase
> water to 1/3c (I do this for chicken pot pie)
>
> Directions
>
> 1. Measure the flour into the processor with the regular blade
> attached. Add the unsalted butter, cut into cubes, and shortening,
> cut into cubes. (Your fat should be frozen or very cold. You may
> vary the proportions, or use some lard, but the total should be 9
> tablespoons.) Add salt. Pulse three times with three counts per
> pulse to mix the ingredients lightly.
>
> 2. With the motor running, pour ice water into the work bowl just
> until the dough just starts to get noticeably crumbly. Don't wait
> until it is a big clump or it will be way too wet and will turn out
> tough.
>
> 3. Stop the machine, dump the crumbly dough into a bowl or on the
> counter, and gather the dough into a ball with your hand. You can
> squeeze it a bit to make it stick together. If it just won't form a
> ball, add a tiny bit more water. (Note that when you are making crust
> in the food processor, you will use less water than most recipes call
> for.)
>
> Wrap your dough ball in waxed paper or plastic wrap and chill it about
> 30 minutes in the refrigerator. Roll it out on a cool surface if you
> can. Then follow your pie recipe for baking.
>
> Note: 1 1/4 cups flour perfectly works for me.

Well that's all duly stashed for the day I might try it. I sometimes
thing a food processor is a mechanism for lazy food-choppers. But then
you spend the time you would have spent chopping cleaning the machine!

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2015081508314623274-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2015-08-15 07:53:42 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> What are you cooking this week Mr G?
>
> Eating left-overs this weekend: Pasta with pollack roe, and chicken
> porkolt (with a heaping helping of that Spanish paprika we got). The wife
> is likely making her third tomato soup, this time and Indian incarnation.
> The garden is abundunt right now with tomatoes. But I'm going to be
> digging through some cookbooks and planning some serious challenges (for
> me) for the upcoming week.

Well do share what you decide to make) That leftover sounds pretty good
too
I had to look up 'porkolt'. Do you use sweet paprika?

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:201508150834557645-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2015-08-15 07:25:15 +0000, said:
>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 1:08:31 AM UTC-5, gtr wrote:
>>>
>>> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.
>>>
>>>
>> Why?
>
> It's so big and mighty and has so many parts. It's like really
> scientific. The only time I see a use for it, is when I watch, for
> instance, one of Hubert Kellar's shows, and there he's making something so
> exotic it's strictly a floor-show, not instruction. Bless him!
>
> I've never managed to merge it into food prep.

<g> Then you must look at the other video I posted about making it without
big scary machines!



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gtr wrote:
>
> Well that's all duly stashed for the day I might try it. I sometimes
> thing a food processor is a mechanism for lazy food-choppers. But then
> you spend the time you would have spent chopping cleaning the machine!

I've got a very small one (Ninja) that I've had for over 2 years. I've
only used it once, the first day, to make sure it worked.

So far, I just use a knife for whatever I would use that for.

G.

Sqwertz wrote:

>> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
>> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
>> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.
>
> Thanks, Gary. And another thanks for ****ing off Barbie. She just
> punched her computer screen.
>
> -sw
>


YOU stalk women.

YOU are a filthy subhuman dwarf.

YOU will eat a lifetime of stalker karma.

Book it.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:06:06 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:18:31 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:50:32 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do it NOW!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>>>>>>> life and move on. Good grief!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're so clueless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.
>>>>
>>>> He most certainly does.
>>>
>>> There is right here, undeniably, a "Lord of the Flies" mentality to this
>>> group.
>>>
>>> And I hate to say this, but...it's the MAJORITY of posters here who
>>> evince it.
>>>
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>> So really some children _never_ grow up is the final summation.
>>>
>>> Oh boy is that a heart breaker.
>>>
>>> Gary has better in him.
>>>
>>> I wonder why he tossed in with the abusers.
>>>
>>> Disappointing for sure.
>>>
>>
>> Typical schoolyard behavior where weaklings throw in with the bullies
>> so they won't get picked on.
>
> Wow. You two are genuinely pathetic.

Wow.

You love your little "Lord of the Flies" pack of sycophants, woman-stalker.

> Has some entity tricked you two into some sort of psychology
> experiment? Are you two maybe enrolled in one of those guinea pig
> clinical trials because you're hard up for free drugs?
>
> -sw


The evil you did to poor Omelet will not be undone in this lifetime
Wertz, you'll pay for that to eternity and beyond.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "gtr" > wrote in message news:201508150834557645-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2015-08-15 07:25:15 +0000, said:
>>
>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 1:08:31 AM UTC-5, gtr wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> It's so big and mighty and has so many parts. It's like really
>> scientific. The only time I see a use for it, is when I watch, for
>> instance, one of Hubert Kellar's shows, and there he's making something
>> so exotic it's strictly a floor-show, not instruction. Bless him!
>>
>> I've never managed to merge it into food prep.
>
> <g> Then you must look at the other video I posted about making it without
> big scary machines!


This is what sf cut out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCyDYYVILg

if you don't have one of those pastry cutters, you can cut the fat in with a
knife and proceed. The fat doesn't even need to be cut very small.


I mostly make Rough Puff pastry. It is just about the easiest pastry to
make. I mostly use this for pies etc. Look he

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyA5OlWU91E

I don't do all that (half hour) refrigeration between folds, just at the end
to rest it.

Go on, give it a go! I dare you!!


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sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:18:31 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:50:32 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do it NOW!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>>>>>> life and move on. Good grief!
>>>>>
>>>>> You're so clueless.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sad too.
>>>>
>>>> I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.
>>>
>>> He most certainly does.
>>
>> There is right here, undeniably, a "Lord of the Flies" mentality to this
>> group.
>>
>> And I hate to say this, but...it's the MAJORITY of posters here who
>> evince it.
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> So really some children _never_ grow up is the final summation.
>>
>> Oh boy is that a heart breaker.
>>
>> Gary has better in him.
>>
>> I wonder why he tossed in with the abusers.
>>
>> Disappointing for sure.
>>
>
> Typical schoolyard behavior where weaklings throw in with the bullies
> so they won't get picked on.
>
Some times it really is just that simple and basic a concept - yes indeed.

As a school teacher you must have seen this so many times.

Sad that these children never grew up.

Sadder still that as aging adults their worst qualities are the ones
they gleefully exhibit here.

Pathetic.

gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-15 02:43:30 +0000, sf said:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTW: did you notice your post in reply to me in this thread was
>>>>> canceled as well as mine? Every now and then one of my posts doesn't
>>>>> stay on the server, but I see replies so I know it was generated. I
>>>>> always figured it was astraweb's fault somehow... but you're not on
>>>>> astraweb, so I don't know what happened this time.
>>>>
>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>
>>> hehheh ;-D
>>>
>>> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
>>> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
>>> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.
>>
>> Oh, god. You are such a suck up.
>
> Oh he is! Me too. Hate him if you must, but the guy can clearly
> ****ing cook!

If your idea of "cook" is to overdress everything with gobs of fattening
mayo...


> I'm here for the info, expertise, and utilitarian caveats. The guy has
> this. I'm parades around the house in a garter-belt on the weekends,
> and draws frightening dystopian pictures in his own blood during the
> week; I don't really care about all that.

Nor the bullying and woman-stalking.

I mean WTF, he's only hurting innocent women after all...

No biggie, right?


> I really do care about the whole prepping and cooking and eating thing,
> and it's great when you can wring a nickel's worth out of it in tat rfc!
>
> Even if from the devil!

You're a vile tub of shit too.

I plan on roasting your worthless ass as often as possible.

Enjoy, you are DEAD to me!

gtr wrote:

>>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>>
>>>> Do it NOW!
>>>
>>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>>> life and move on. Good grief!
>>
>> Brilliant. Why don't you keep on encouraging the little turd Gary?
>
> Hey! If you two want to give him a double jack-me-off, can I help you
> make it a triple?
>
> It's such an outrage I just gotta chip in!
>
You need a shovel applied to your face, soon.

gtr wrote:
>> I broached that subject with him months ago if not more than a year
>> and the answer was that he didn't want to do it.
>
> I gotta food processor. Frankly, I'm scared of it.

I'd feed your hand right into it and push pulse hard!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> gtr wrote:
>>
>> Well that's all duly stashed for the day I might try it. I sometimes
>> thing a food processor is a mechanism for lazy food-choppers. But then
>> you spend the time you would have spent chopping cleaning the machine!
>
> I've got a very small one (Ninja) that I've had for over 2 years. I've
> only used it once, the first day, to make sure it worked.
>
> So far, I just use a knife for whatever I would use that for.

My only use for an FP is to cut butter and flour together finely - like
breadcrumbs. I beat tablespoons of it into liquid to make sauces. It keeps
in
the freezer very well. It saves having to make a roux the conventional way
and is very easy to use.


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On 8/15/2015 1:02 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>>
>> BTW Steve...all of your food posts with pics look very good. I rarely
>> respond but love to see the pics and descriptions. Just to let you
>> know. Let me know when you open up your own restaurant.
>
> Thanks, Gary. And another thanks for ****ing off Barbie. She just
> punched her computer screen.
>
> -sw
>
I like the pictures too, Steve. Even if I don't like a lot of food on
my plate your pics usually look fine. Might not be something I'd eat,
but I'm not here to criticize (or demand) pictures of food.

Jill

On 8/15/2015 12:14 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:50:32 -0600, truth and honor > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:56:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> truth and honor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> That was me that did that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you just LEAVE this medium forever, woman-stalker?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do it NOW!
>>>>
>>>> Why don't YOU just give it up and leave here, ass-breath. Get a real
>>>> life and move on. Good grief!
>>>
>>> You're so clueless.
>>>
>>
>> Sad too.
>>
>> I think he has value, but he throws in with bullies and assholes.
>
> He most certainly does.
>
Gimme a break. Lately you throw in with trolls who demand people leave.
As if they contribute anything other than stirring up shit.

We all know you don't like Steve Wertz. Killfile him. Don't bother to
read his posts. If he nymshifts, it's easy enough to figure out it's
him and k/f the new nick. Good lord. You're agreeing with a troll who
(for the moment) is called "truth and honor". It isn't someone who is
here to discuss food or cooking. Talk about dragging down the group...

Jill