"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Hard to say who is dumber. The HOA board or the people that live in a
>> neighborhood governed by an HOA. Like living in a little dictatorship.
>
> I like HOAs because I can live in a house for decades and never see a
> boat parked in the driveway next door.

There are boats all around me. I don't have a boat phobia.

On 7/4/2015 11:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/4/2015 10:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> This being a holiday weekend, the local water authority doesn't have the
>> crews to start the repairs until "early next week". They're hoping for
>> Monday. Meanwhile, we're all dealing with *greatly* reduced water
>> pressure.
>>
>> I wrote to the Dataw Net suggesting maybe it would help with the water
>> pressure issue if maybe people didn't run their automatic sprinklers
>> until the problem is fixed.
>>
>> Oh. My. God. You'd have thought I suggested they cut off their thumbs!
>> Not run the sprinklers?! How dare you!
>>
>> One guy actually replied to me, it is our OBLIGATION to the Association
>> to have pretty lawns... must run the sprinklers. Yeah, sure.
>>
>
>
> You could not write better fiction than what real life gives you.

Truth is often stranger than fiction. Must water the lawn. Even though
it has rained every night for a week and the ground is already soaking
wet. Not very bright, are they?

Jill

On 7/4/2015 11:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-07-04 22:04, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> You can't park a boat or a trailer or an RV in the driveway for any
>> length of time where I live. There is an area for parking them. No one
>> really wants to look out the window every day and see them.
>>
>> Change of subject: I just got into an "argument" (of sorts) with a
>> couple of men on the Dataw Net. There is a break in the water main on
>> the island.
>>
>> This being a holiday weekend, the local water authority doesn't have the
>> crews to start the repairs until "early next week". They're hoping for
>> Monday. Meanwhile, we're all dealing with *greatly* reduced water
>> pressure.
>
> It is a matter of public health and safety. They should have paid
> someone overtime to get the job done right away.
>
The water was tested and it is not in any way compromised by sewage.
Totally separate lines. It's the incoming main that is affected, not
anything outgoing that might comingle with it.

>> I wrote to the Dataw Net suggesting maybe it would help with the water
>> pressure issue if maybe people didn't run their automatic sprinklers
>> until the problem is fixed.
>>
>> Oh. My. God. You'd have thought I suggested they cut off their thumbs!
>> Not run the sprinklers?! How dare you!
>>
>> One guy actually replied to me, it is our OBLIGATION to the Association
>> to have pretty lawns... must run the sprinklers. Yeah, sure.
>>
>> My answer was: Look out the window. It's been raining for the last two
>> hours. It has rained every night for the last week, off and on
>> throughout the night. It's supposed to rain again tomorrow. I really
>> don't think the lawn needs your help.
>
>
> Grass turns brown when it is desperately in need on water. It turns
> green again when it gets watered. Once in a while when we run into a
> dry spell they have lawn watering restrictions. They aren't particularly
> worried about running out of water from the source, since it is pretty
> well unlimited, but they are worried about maintaining sufficient water
> pressure in case of a fire.

Yeah, I wondered about what would happen if there was a fire and they
couldn't bring in trucks with the big water pumps.

> If it has been raining there is no real need for watering. They are just
> being dicks.
>
Likely.

>> I should have said I suppose I could stand outside in the rain every
>> night to take a shower. They do say rain water is good for hair.
>
>
> It is soft water. ;-)
>
The rain might be soft water but the water from my shower isn't. It's
not particularly hard water, either. I hope they get the broken line
repaired quickly.

Jill

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:42:02 PM UTC-5, Acme Bully Control wrote:
>
> On 7/4/2015 2:33 PM, wrote:
>
> > She was scared to
> > death that electric bill would go up $5 for the month; it
> > was the depression era mentality. Save! Save! Save! Don't
> > spend a dime unless it's becomes a life threatening situation!
> > Hoard that dollar!
>
>
> You'd be a might less dismissive if you'd ever lived through such a
> terrible time.
>
MANY of her frugal ways have stuck with me. But I'm not
going to be miserable when it's hot as hell outside and
the humidity is at 80%.
>
> I've taken a real damned dislike to you, bitch.
>
That is your problem and you'll just have to live
with your hate. You're the one with problem, not me.
>
> Go drink some ketchup packet soup like my old man used to when food was
> none.
>
I don't like ketchup, you can have my share of 'soup.'

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:00:57 PM UTC-5, taxed and spent wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
>
> > She was scared to
> > death that electric bill would go up $5 for the month; it
> > was the depression era mentality. Save! Save! Save! Don't
> > spend a dime unless it's becomes a life threatening situation!
> > Hoard that dollar!
> >
>
> Let me guess - she does not work for the government, at any level.
>
>
She never held a job outside the home.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 13:08:28 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 7/4/2015 12:41 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 7/4/2015 11:22 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:10:42 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can see
>>>>> the usefulness of having some rules to deal with messy properties,
>>>>> barking dogs, whatever. Overall, it doesn't appeal to me, either.
>>>>
>>>> And that's what a good municipal government is for. Regrettably,
>>>> some areas have ceded their responsibilities to HOAs.
>>>
>>> Unless it's a real nuisance or a safety issue, my town isn't
>>> going to do a lot about it. I don't even think it's illegal to
>>> have a barking dog, though if it's during sleeping hours they
>>> might send a cop over.
>>>
>>> An HOA could have stricter rules, I believe, than the general
>>> voting public would tolerate.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>>It's a bit ridiculous for a home owners association to fine people for
>>having window AC's... unless the people who put them in ignored existing
>>rules and did it anyway. Even with that, it's a heat wave. People need
>>to stay cool. Wait until it's over before you go around fining people
>>for trying to be comfortable.
>>
>>Very young, elderly and ill people die all the time due to not even
>>having a simple fan in the house. Seems like every year on the news
>>there is a call for people to donate fans to those who don't have AC.
>>
>>Jill
>
> seems to me the letter could say something like 'we understand that
> due to abnormal heat, some of our residents have had to resort to
> window air conditioners. These units are against the HOA rules,
> however, due to special circumstances, the units will be allowed.
> Please understand that these units must be removed by August 31 or
> fines will ensue.'
> Janet US

Why then? Last year our heat wave continued long beyond that.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>> > > they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>> > > don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>> > > change the rule, and do that.
>> > >
>> > > Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>> > > of their development.
>> > >
>> > > nancy
>> >
>> > Yea, but. . .
>> >
>> > While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit
>> > unusual. Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not
>> > needed in that area in the past. The portable type of AC may not
>> > have been readily available at the time.
>>
>> Yes. You can find window units even at some drug and grocery stores.
>> You can't find portable ones in too many places and if you want one
>> you might have to go online. When I did look at Amazon, many of
>> those units take 2-5 months to ship. Now you could get lucky like my
>> friend did. She got one for cheap at the store where her husband
>> works. But normally they are not even something you'd see in a store
>> here.
>
> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.
>
> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
> you a long time to find one.
>
> Carol

Lookie here! First hit. Who's the liar now? And yeah, I know that you
killfiled me. Liar, liar, pants on fire!

http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...5%3A2470955011

How do you people live with yourselves?

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
>> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.
>>
>> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
>> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
>> you a long time to find one.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>
> http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...ir+conditioner

Thank you! I am tired of being called a liar and having people here
lie about me. Please note to all, Ed has never done this AFAIK. I was not
talking about him.

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:13:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
>>> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.
>>>
>>> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
>>> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
>>> you a long time to find one.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>
>>http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...ir+conditioner
>
> That is because it is not in stock...hardly a true shipping time
> interval.

Yes! But such was the case with many of the cooling devices that I wanted
to buy, be it fan, or swamp cooler. I wound up buying the swamp cooler
elsewhere.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 9:40 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:13:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
>>>> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.
>>>>
>>>> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
>>>> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
>>>> you a long time to find one.
>>>>
>>>> Carol
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...ir+conditioner
>>
>> That is because it is not in stock...hardly a true shipping time
>> interval.
>>
> Of course it is not in stock, thus the long lead time. What is not true
> of the shipping time interval?
>
> There are other options, of course, but you also have to be careful when
> you state "show me". Someone usually will.

Yep. It would suck to be one of those people in real life. They come off
as cocky know it alls. Here, they just killfile. What do they do in real
life when they are proven wrong?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 6:29 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 7/4/2015 6:18 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
>>> "Jeßus" > wrote
>>
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:46:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and
>>>>> one of
>>>>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>>>>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is
>>>>> that
>>>>> trailer.
>>>>
>>>> They should move to a low density area if they don't like that sort of
>>>> thing, IMO. If the neighbour wants to park a trailer or boat in their
>>>> yard, then they should be able to. Where else are they supposed to
>>>> park them?
>>>
>>> There are storage yards available for such things.
>>
>> It's only considerate. You should think how it impacts your
>> neighbors, whatever it is.
>>
>> nancy
>
> There are places to park boats (dry-dock), camper/trailers, RV's where I
> live. HOA or not, no one really wants to look at them just sitting there.

Why not? What is so problematic about seeing a boat? Dry docks are very
expensive here and slips even more so. I see boats everywhere. Does not
bother me at all and nobody else that I know is either.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>> trailer.
>>
>>
> You can't park a boat or a trailer or an RV in the driveway for any length
> of time where I live. There is an area for parking them. No one really
> wants to look out the window every day and see them.

Again... Why not? What happens when they see them? We have RVs and boats
up and down my street. Nobody has a problem with them.
>
> Change of subject: I just got into an "argument" (of sorts) with a couple
> of men on the Dataw Net. There is a break in the water main on the
> island.
>
> This being a holiday weekend, the local water authority doesn't have the
> crews to start the repairs until "early next week". They're hoping for
> Monday. Meanwhile, we're all dealing with *greatly* reduced water
> pressure.
>
> I wrote to the Dataw Net suggesting maybe it would help with the water
> pressure issue if maybe people didn't run their automatic sprinklers until
> the problem is fixed.
>
> Oh. My. God. You'd have thought I suggested they cut off their thumbs!
> Not run the sprinklers?! How dare you!
>
> One guy actually replied to me, it is our OBLIGATION to the Association to
> have pretty lawns... must run the sprinklers. Yeah, sure.

Most of the time that I lived here, we either could not use sprinklers at
all or only every other day and only certain times of the day. They have
not restricted water yet this year because they said that they discovered
that we use less water when we are not restricted. But since we have the
drought, they did tell us to go wet down our roofs and lawns. I did but I
saw nobody else doing it. Now if my bleeping neighbors would just stop with
the fireworks. They were supposed to have stopped an hour and 20 minutes
ago but one person who is very close to my house keeps lighting them.
>
> My answer was: Look out the window. It's been raining for the last two
> hours. It has rained every night for the last week, off and on throughout
> the night. It's supposed to rain again tomorrow. I really don't think
> the lawn needs your help.
>
> I'd much prefer having enough water pressure to rinse shampoo out of my
> hair without it taking 15 minutes.
>
> These people certainly have some strange priorities.
>
> I should have said I suppose I could stand outside in the rain every night
> to take a shower. They do say rain water is good for hair.

It used to be. I don't think they say that now with all the pollution that
we have.

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:57:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>>> they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>>> don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>>> change the rule, and do that.
>>>
>>> Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>>> of their development.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>>Yea, but. . .
>>
>>While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit unusual.
>> Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not needed in that
>>area in the past. The portable type of AC may not have been readily
>>available at the time.
>>
>>Are you going to deny comfort to an 85 year old resident that is able to
>>get a $150 room AC for relief? I bet a few residents could get a doctor
>>to claim it was an emergency medical necessity.
>>
>>I'd stick it in a back window and screw the HOA. OTOH, I'd never live in
>>a place with an HOA in the first place.
>
> For example, someone like me with MS. People with MS are particularly
> sensitive to the heat, the heat makes me miserably tired and quick to
> wear out doding just about everything, and my case of MS is not
> terribly severe. Some people with MS have extreme intolerance to hot
> weather!
>
> John Kuthe...

That's the thing! Last summer we really had little to no hot weather. It
did get hot but more towards fall. And then we had some bitter cold weather
early on and a very mild spring. Most years there is little to no need for
AC at all. Which is why most people don't put in central air or even
ductless. That's a lot of expense for something that would rarely get used.
I have been told that most new houses here do have AC. I guess it is
cheaper to just put it in along with everything else.

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:03:06 AM UTC-5, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 7/4/15 3:48 AM, Troll Disposal Service wrote:
> >
> > Your SO stupid!
>
> ^^^^^
>
> Pot, kettle, {plonk}.
>
The "Troll Disposal Service" is too stupid to know the difference between
your and you're.
>
> -- Larry

--Bryan

"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 4:33 PM, wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> He's gone now, and my mother won't
>>> turn it on unless it's really unbearable. I don't know if it's
>>> that depression era mentality or some sort of perverse pride in
>>> being tough.
>
>> My mother's kitchen faced west/southwest and it would be an oven
>> in there during the summer. She had a room size a/c in one
>> of the kitchen windows but she'd never turn it on UNTIL she
>> went in there to cook and it was already like a sauna.
>
> Ugh! It'll never cool it off at the point, never mind she's
> adding heat.
>
> > I told
>> her she needed to turn it on well before she did any cooking
>> which resulted in many heated arguments.
>
> Heh.
>
>> She was scared to
>> death that electric bill would go up $5 for the month;
>
> Oh, does that sound familiar.
>
>> it
>> was the depression era mentality. Save! Save! Save! Don't
>> spend a dime unless it's becomes a life threatening situation!
>> Hoard that dollar!
>
> I remember as a teenager, frustrated about some crazy way
> she'd some up with to save money and I said You'd do Anything
> to save a dime! The look on her face was so puzzled, Of Course!
> I can laugh about that now.

That is what Wars and depression do to you.
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Nancy, Alaska gets hot and humid just like the northern plains states...plus,
The bugs are a horrible nuisance.

N.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 9:40 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:13:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
>>>> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.
>>>>
>>>> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
>>>> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
>>>> you a long time to find one.
>>>>
>>>> Carol
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...ir+conditioner
>>
>> That is because it is not in stock...hardly a true shipping time
>> interval.
>>
> Of course it is not in stock, thus the long lead time. What is not true
> of the shipping time interval?
>
> There are other options, of course, but you also have to be careful when
> you state "show me". Someone usually will.

Especially if you call them a LIAR!


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:53:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/4/2015 9:40 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:13:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
>>>> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.
>>>>
>>>> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
>>>> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
>>>> you a long time to find one.
>>>>
>>>> Carol
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...ir+conditioner
>>
>> That is because it is not in stock...hardly a true shipping time
>> interval.
>>
>Of course it is not in stock, thus the long lead time. What is not true
>of the shipping time interval?

It is not transit time.
>
>There are other options, of course, but you also have to be careful when
>you state "show me". Someone usually will.

Sorry, to me, this is not proof of anything other than stupidity.

On 7/5/2015 3:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/4/2015 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>>> trailer.
>>>
>> You can't park a boat or a trailer or an RV in the driveway for any
>> length of time where I live. There is an area for parking them. No
>> one really wants to look out the window every day and see them.
>
> Again... Why not? What happens when they see them? We have RVs and
> boats up and down my street. Nobody has a problem with them.

It looks trashy. They're an eyesore.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/5/2015 3:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/4/2015 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one
>>>> of
>>>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>>>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>>>> trailer.
>>>>
>>> You can't park a boat or a trailer or an RV in the driveway for any
>>> length of time where I live. There is an area for parking them. No
>>> one really wants to look out the window every day and see them.
>>
>> Again... Why not? What happens when they see them? We have RVs and
>> boats up and down my street. Nobody has a problem with them.
>
> It looks trashy. They're an eyesore.
>
> Jill

If everyone has them, it is not such a big deal. If only one has one , it
stick out.

On 7/5/2015 11:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
>> Again... Why not? What happens when they see them? We have RVs and
>> boats up and down my street. Nobody has a problem with them.
>
> It looks trashy. They're an eyesore.
>
> Jill

I don't mind an occasional one parked for a couple of days, but I don't
want to see one year round, be it RV, boat ,whatever. I can park my car
6' from the family room door id I choose to, but it would obstruct the
view of the woods that start 15' the other side. I'd rather look out
and see trees and birds.

Fortunately, I rarely look the other way. My next door neighbor owns
one each of every motorized product ever made. SUV, pickup, work
pickup, tractor, boat, motorcycle, snowmobile, lawn tractor, pressure
washer, generator, air compressor, camping trailer, and more. He really
should be on 50 acres up in Maine.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/5/2015 11:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Again... Why not? What happens when they see them? We have RVs and
>>> boats up and down my street. Nobody has a problem with them.
>>
>> It looks trashy. They're an eyesore.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I don't mind an occasional one parked for a couple of days, but I don't
> want to see one year round, be it RV, boat ,whatever. I can park my car
> 6' from the family room door id I choose to, but it would obstruct the
> view of the woods that start 15' the other side. I'd rather look out and
> see trees and birds.
>
> Fortunately, I rarely look the other way. My next door neighbor owns one
> each of every motorized product ever made. SUV, pickup, work pickup,
> tractor, boat, motorcycle, snowmobile, lawn tractor, pressure washer,
> generator, air compressor, camping trailer, and more. He really should be
> on 50 acres up in Maine.

In his mind, he is.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 3:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>> trailer.
>>
>>
> You can't park a boat or a trailer or an RV in the driveway for any length
> of time where I live. There is an area for parking them. No one really
> wants to look out the window every day and see them.
>
> Change of subject: I just got into an "argument" (of sorts) with a couple
> of men on the Dataw Net. There is a break in the water main on the
> island.
>
> This being a holiday weekend, the local water authority doesn't have the
> crews to start the repairs until "early next week". They're hoping for
> Monday. Meanwhile, we're all dealing with *greatly* reduced water
> pressure.
>
> I wrote to the Dataw Net suggesting maybe it would help with the water
> pressure issue if maybe people didn't run their automatic sprinklers until
> the problem is fixed.
>
> Oh. My. God. You'd have thought I suggested they cut off their thumbs!
> Not run the sprinklers?! How dare you!
>
> One guy actually replied to me, it is our OBLIGATION to the Association to
> have pretty lawns... must run the sprinklers. Yeah, sure.
>
> My answer was: Look out the window. It's been raining for the last two
> hours. It has rained every night for the last week, off and on throughout
> the night. It's supposed to rain again tomorrow. I really don't think
> the lawn needs your help.
>
> I'd much prefer having enough water pressure to rinse shampoo out of my
> hair without it taking 15 minutes.
>
> These people certainly have some strange priorities.

Their priority is telling others what to do, not being on the receiving end.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 8:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> It's only considerate. You should think how it impacts your
>>> neighbors, whatever it is.
>
>> In our town, they really don't allow it if it blocks others.
>
> That's a nice law.
>
>>I have a
>> friend who built a big RV garage right next to his neighbor (no permit
>> type of thing) which blocked the entire window of her house on the side,
>
> What would make the guy think he could get away with that, I wonder.

The fact that he's lived in the house for 50 plus years and thinks he owns
the street, whereas these newcomers have only been there about 8 years. He's
a nice man in most ways, but he can be a twit at times. After the city made
him take it down, he went all over town looking for illegal type dwellings
and reported them. The city inspector actually wrote an article in the paper
about him, without naming him, saying this *disgruntled man* was causing a
lot of man hours for the city. LOL

Cheri

On 7/5/2015 11:27 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote

>> It looks trashy. They're an eyesore.

> If everyone has them, it is not such a big deal. If only one has one , it
> stick out.

Boats are beautiful, but I don't want one blocking the
view out my window. RVs, I'm sure someone somewhere thinks
they're gorgeous but they are an eyesore and I don't want
to see one in my neighbor's driveway. Or a tractor trailer.

nancy

On 05/07/2015 9:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/4/2015 8:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>
>>>> It's only considerate. You should think how it impacts your
>>>> neighbors, whatever it is.
>>
>>> In our town, they really don't allow it if it blocks others.
>>
>> That's a nice law.
>>
>>> I have a
>>> friend who built a big RV garage right next to his neighbor (no permit
>>> type of thing) which blocked the entire window of her house on the side,
>>
>> What would make the guy think he could get away with that, I wonder.
>
> The fact that he's lived in the house for 50 plus years and thinks he
> owns the street, whereas these newcomers have only been there about 8
> years. He's a nice man in most ways, but he can be a twit at times.
> After the city made him take it down, he went all over town looking for
> illegal type dwellings and reported them. The city inspector actually
> wrote an article in the paper about him, without naming him, saying this
> *disgruntled man* was causing a lot of man hours for the city. LOL
>
> Cheri
My son was building an infill house and one of the neighbours was a
young lawyer who was forever calling the city to complain about
something to do with any minor inconvenience to him.
My son couldn't do anything about it but one day, he took his laser
surveying equipment and found out that this lawyer had mounted something
on his roof that was above code limits.
A beaming city inspector derived great pleasure in ticketing the pesky
lawyer.
Graham

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On 7/5/2015 11:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
> The fact that he's lived in the house for 50 plus years and thinks he
> owns the street, whereas these newcomers have only been there about 8
> years. He's a nice man in most ways, but he can be a twit at times.
> After the city made him take it down, he went all over town looking for
> illegal type dwellings and reported them. The city inspector actually
> wrote an article in the paper about him, without naming him, saying this
> *disgruntled man* was causing a lot of man hours for the city. LOL
>
> Cheri

Sounds a bit like Sheldon.

Jill

Nancy Young wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 7/4/2015 1:08 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/4/2015 12:41 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > > An HOA could have stricter rules, I believe, than the general
> > > voting public would tolerate.
>
> > It's a bit ridiculous for a home owners association to fine people
> > for having window AC's... unless the people who put them in ignored
> > existing rules and did it anyway.
>
> That's exactly what they did. Those are the rules they agreed to
> when they moved there.
>
> > Even with that, it's a heat wave. People need
> > to stay cool. Wait until it's over before you go around fining
> > people for trying to be comfortable.
>
> Agreed, but then I know people will say But I spent all this money
> on it, I don't want to buy the right kind now, next thing you know
> it's unenforceable because these people are setting a precedent.
>
> > Very young, elderly and ill people die all the time due to not even
> > having a simple fan in the house. Seems like every year on the news
> > there is a call for people to donate fans to those who don't have
> > AC.
>
> I grew up without air conditioning, but the idea of living in the
> south without it, I couldn't do it. I just can't take the heat.
>
> nancy

LOL, I know the feeling. You actually do get used to it but it takes
time as you seasonally shift. Right now I've hit the point where 90F
feels fine for a walk but in May, I'd have felt that same to be
sweltering.

Because we do live in the hotter parts of the nation (not the hottest,
just a damp sort of hot where the 'feels like' matters more than actual
temps), we have some house adaptions that make it better.

We have 4 ceiling fans. These make the room feel 10 degrees cooler if
on high. We have 4 stand fans and a table top on a tall bookshelf in
the one bedroom (actually used as a computer room) that doubles as a
ceiling fan in effect there. The stand fans get moved around and
normally only 1 is in use unless there is and AC outage like we just
had.

My AC compressor (HVAC) died. They had to special order a compatible
unit. It took 6 days to get here. Knowing it was faltering, I got a
secondary portable that arrived just before it failed (a good unit from
Amazon, needed an extra 10,000BTU). I already had an 8,000BTU and a
12,000BTU.

With the AC out and it hitting heat index of 103F (actual was just
under 100F, ie, lucked up that it wasn't as damp as normal), we
maintained just fine using stand fans to blow cool air about.

The HOA there probably stipulated only front facing windows had to use
portables, maybe side ones. Lets face it, the area probably sold out
of portables fast and unless they were smart enough to online order,
they couldnt get a portable for a bit.

Best guess?
Carol

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On 7/4/2015 4:09 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:46:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-07-04 1:19 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hard to say who is dumber. The HOA board or the people that live in a
>>>> neighborhood governed by an HOA. Like living in a little dictatorship.
>>>
>>> I like HOAs because I can live in a house for decades and never see a
>>> boat parked in the driveway next door.
>>>
>>
>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>> trailer.
>
> They should move to a low density area if they don't like that sort of
> thing, IMO.

Your "opinion" is REJECTED, you worthless Auzzie statist slave!

> If the neighbour wants to park a trailer or boat in their
> yard, then they should be able to.

NOT YOUR CALL TO MAKE ASSHOLE!

> Where else are they supposed to
> park them?

IN A ****ING RV STORAGE LOT, YOU WORTHLESS AUZZIE SHITBAG!

On 7/4/2015 4:18 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:46:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-07-04 1:19 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hard to say who is dumber. The HOA board or the people that live in a
>>>>> neighborhood governed by an HOA. Like living in a little dictatorship.
>>>>
>>>> I like HOAs because I can live in a house for decades and never see a
>>>> boat parked in the driveway next door.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>>> trailer.
>>
>> They should move to a low density area if they don't like that sort of
>> thing, IMO. If the neighbour wants to park a trailer or boat in their
>> yard, then they should be able to. Where else are they supposed to
>> park them?
>
> There are storage yards available for such things.
>
>
GD right there are!

****ing damned Auzzie statist slaves!

On 7/4/2015 4:23 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:18:20 -0700, "taxed and spent"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:46:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-07-04 1:19 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hard to say who is dumber. The HOA board or the people that live in a
>>>>>> neighborhood governed by an HOA. Like living in a little dictatorship.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like HOAs because I can live in a house for decades and never see a
>>>>> boat parked in the driveway next door.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>>>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>>>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>>>> trailer.
>>>
>>> They should move to a low density area if they don't like that sort of
>>> thing, IMO. If the neighbour wants to park a trailer or boat in their
>>> yard, then they should be able to. Where else are they supposed to
>>> park them?
>>
>> There are storage yards available for such things.
>
> I thought somebody would say something like that
>
Why don't you **** off out of here forever, you damned rabbit killer.

On 7/4/2015 4:45 PM, Acme Bully Control wrote:
>
>
> "Acme Bully Control" wrote in message ...
>
> More fraudulent frogging.
>
> Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org;
> posting-host="b6030cb4586d11f4db82cdda9e0864d6";
> logging-data="27239";
> ";
> posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18v6LbWCUFQs1xa320baXVjYxKYki0Zm Qc="
>
> Dead giveaway. Fraud.


Bodine FRAUD:

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:42:02 PM UTC-5, Acme Bully Control
> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/4/2015 2:33 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > She was scared to
> > > death that electric bill would go up $5 for the month; it
> > > was the depression era mentality. Save! Save! Save! Don't
> > > spend a dime unless it's becomes a life threatening situation!
> > > Hoard that dollar!
> >
> >
> > You'd be a might less dismissive if you'd ever lived through such a
> > terrible time.
> >
> MANY of her frugal ways have stuck with me. But I'm not
> going to be miserable when it's hot as hell outside and
> the humidity is at 80%.
> >
> > I've taken a real damned dislike to you, bitch.
> >
> That is your problem and you'll just have to live
> with your hate. You're the one with problem, not me.
> >
> > Go drink some ketchup packet soup like my old man used to when food
> > was none.
> >
> I don't like ketchup, you can have my share of 'soup.'

I have many frugal ways that came from my mother who grew up at the end
of the depression.

Some were crazy making, others merely sensible repurposing of items.
Lots of them aren't cooking related really but here's one that is.

I hate paying for green onion bunches when it's dead on simple to grow
your own. I'll get one set in spring to add to my others from other
years and chop the tops then tuck the bottoms in a long thin container
garden plastic holder. They will grow enough new ones for 3-4 years
running that I don't have to get more.

Rasising those plastic containers at least 12 inches makes them much
easier to work with since I have a bad back. Don (husband) has built
me some raising platforms but the water drains down and eventually the
wood rots out.

Lady in a wind storm lost some shutters. I asked for the broken ones
she had no use for (posted on Feeecycle). I now have 2 more container
tables and because of the slats, the water drains clear so no more wood
rotting. Works for me!

Carol

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On 7/4/2015 6:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-07-04 18:09, wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:46:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-07-04 1:19 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hard to say who is dumber. The HOA board or the people that live in a
>>>>> neighborhood governed by an HOA. Like living in a little
>>>>> dictatorship.
>>>>
>>>> I like HOAs because I can live in a house for decades and never see a
>>>> boat parked in the driveway next door.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is that to it. My brother lives in a nice neighbourhood and one of
>>> his neighbours parks a big camper trailer there all summer. The people
>>> right next door look out their kitchen window and all they see is that
>>> trailer.
>>
>> They should move to a low density area if they don't like that sort of
>> thing, IMO. If the neighbour wants to park a trailer or boat in their
>> yard, then they should be able to. Where else are they supposed to
>> park them?
>>
> I beg to differ.

Well **** you too!

This is AMERICA, a worthless canucks like YOU get NO say at all!

Now **** off out of here, asshole!

Ed Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> > Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping
> > and it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months
> > to ship.
> >
> > Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that
> > statement because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that
> > slow, it will take you a long time to find one.
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
> http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...r-ARC-14S/dp/B
> 0028AYQDC/ref=sr_1_6?s=appliances&ie=UTF8&qid=1436058667&sr= 1-6&keywor
> ds=portable+air+conditioner

You had to hunt long and hard to find that one!

It's abnormal and you know it.

Mine came in 5 days.

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On 7/4/2015 7:20 PM, wrote:
> Ah, the joys of living on top of each other

**** OFF BACK TO OZ YOU VIRUS!

Boron Elgar wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:13:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 7/4/2015 7:33 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > >
> >> Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping
> and >> it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months
> to ship.
> > >
> >> Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that
> statement >> because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that
> slow, it will take >> you a long time to find one.
> > >
> >> Carol
> > >
> >
> > http://smile.amazon.com/Whynter-Dual...ner-ARC-14S/dp
> > /B0028AYQDC/ref=sr_1_6?s=appliances&ie=UTF8&qid=1436058667&sr= 1-6&ke
> > ywords=portable+air+conditioner
>
> That is because it is not in stock...hardly a true shipping time
> interval.

Exactly.



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On 7/4/2015 8:17 PM, wrote:
> That's a good idea.

Die soon.

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 12:41:31 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/4/2015 11:22 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:10:42 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
> >
> >> I can see
> >> the usefulness of having some rules to deal with messy properties,
> >> barking dogs, whatever. Overall, it doesn't appeal to me, either.
> >
> > And that's what a good municipal government is for. Regrettably,
> > some areas have ceded their responsibilities to HOAs.
>
> Unless it's a real nuisance or a safety issue, my town isn't
> going to do a lot about it. I don't even think it's illegal to
> have a barking dog, though if it's during sleeping hours they
> might send a cop over.

In Ann Arbor (and I'm glad I actually live just outside of town)
if you don't mow your lawn, the city will come around and mow
it, and bill you. Mind you, the weeds have to be pretty tall
and I think your neighbors have to rat you out before the city
pays attention. Same with snow removal.

The noise ordinances are seldom mentioned in the newspaper, and
they're probably more often invoked in the student ghetto.

> An HOA could have stricter rules, I believe, than the general
> voting public would tolerate.

Absolutely. People can volunteer to be micromanaged all they
want.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 1:19:23 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Hard to say who is dumber. The HOA board or the people that live in a
> > neighborhood governed by an HOA. Like living in a little dictatorship.
>
> I like HOAs because I can live in a house for decades and never see a
> boat parked in the driveway next door.

I don't think you'd like to live next to me. We have two utility trailers.

One is parked in front of the workshop, and the other is parked behind it.

Cindy Hamilton