Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
much at all.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:47:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>much at all.
>
>http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb

I cannot imagine a big company being stupid enough to do that
intentionally or dumb enough to not check things.

I can see one manager in one store trying to boost profits figuring
he'd never get caught, but for the group of stores in one large city
seems really dumb.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:47:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>>often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>>overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>>normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>>see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>>have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>>much at all.
>>
>>http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> I cannot imagine a big company being stupid enough to do that
> intentionally or dumb enough to not check things.
>
> I can see one manager in one store trying to boost profits figuring
> he'd never get caught, but for the group of stores in one large city
> seems really dumb.

I can't either but they do strange things. Once, we had some sort of frozen
treat that wound up not getting eaten because nobody liked it. The cashier
asked us if we had tried it before and I told her that we had not. So she
said she was giving it to us for free but that we needed to report back to
her whether we liked it or not. I know that it was not rung up because that
day we only bought a very few things. I didn't see her write the item down
anywhere or make any sort of notation. Stuff like this really bothers me
because I used to do POS work and that sort of thing is a nightmare to a POS
person. How can they possibly keep the inventory straight if things are
just given away? I would also think that the Loss Prevention people
wouldn't be too happy with that either!

Now it may well be that the woman either quit or was fired. We never saw
her there again and she would have been hard to miss because she had very
short, blue hair and a lot of tattoos and piercings. So it could be that
she was not supposed to have done that at all.

They do give free fruit to kids but I know that is accounted for because
there is a wagon with fruit in it, in the eating area and the kids choose
from that.

We have a local chain here called PCC that is similar to WF but much
smaller. They give kids a free serving of fruit or vegetable of their
choice. We were told that Angela (when she was a kid) could have anything
that she wanted. If she wanted some pineapple, all we had to do was tell
the produce person and he or she would take a whole one and cut a serving
for her. And once there was a boy ahead of us in line that had something
very large. I can't remember what it was now. But the cashier inferred
that it was more than a serving. The mom said that the boy had a big
appetite so she let it go. Those people weren't even buying anything! They
just took the free produce.

That always bugged me as well because I never saw them write anything down
there either. But maybe the produce inventory is handled differently. It
would be easy enough to count something like bagged salads but I don't know
how you'd do it with something like apples that wind up in a pile. You sure
wouldn't want to go digging through them to count. Hmmm... Now that I
think about it, when I worked for that inventory company, I don't recall
ever having to count fresh produce. And we did do a lot of grocery stores.

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
> much at all.
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb

You buy shoes at a grocery store? And NBC is not a "news" outlet, it's a tabloid on a par with the National Enquirer.

On 6/26/2015 7:30 AM, Miss Kitty wrote:
> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>> much at all.
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> You buy shoes at a grocery store? And NBC is not a "news" outlet, it's a tabloid on a par with the National Enquirer.
>

Charitable!

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:03:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:47:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> >often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> >overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> >normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
> >see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> >have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
> >much at all.
> >
> >http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> I cannot imagine a big company being stupid enough to do that
> intentionally or dumb enough to not check things.
>
> I can see one manager in one store trying to boost profits figuring
> he'd never get caught, but for the group of stores in one large city
> seems really dumb.

+1

--

sf

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT), Miss Kitty
> wrote:

> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> > often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> > overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> > normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
> > see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> > have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
> > much at all.
> >
> > http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> You buy shoes at a grocery store? And NBC is not a "news" outlet, it's a tabloid on a par with the National Enquirer.

Meeooow!

--

sf

"Miss Kitty" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard
>> to
>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it
>> wasn't
>> much at all.
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> You buy shoes at a grocery store? And NBC is not a "news" outlet, it's a
> tabloid on a par with the National Enquirer.

Yes. They used to sell Toms and they had styles that Nordstrom did not.

On 6/26/2015 9:30 AM, Miss Kitty wrote:
> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>> much at all.
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> You buy shoes at a grocery store?

The article specifically talks about PRE-PACKAGED FOODS:

"New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday
that an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found
systemic overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food."

New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday that
an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found systemic
overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food.

"The overcharges ranged from [80 cents] for a package of pecan panko to
$14.84 for a package of coconut shrimp," the agency said in a statement."

Yeah, but she's not worried about being overcharged. She's worried
about shoes.

Whole Foods aside, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not
want to shop at grocery stores that also sell clothing and shoes.
That's not what I go there for.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/26/2015 9:30 AM, Miss Kitty wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard
>>> to
>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it
>>> wasn't
>>> much at all.
>>>
>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>>
>> You buy shoes at a grocery store?
>
> The article specifically talks about PRE-PACKAGED FOODS:
>
> "New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday that
> an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found systemic
> overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food."
>
> New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday that
> an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found systemic
> overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food.
>
> "The overcharges ranged from [80 cents] for a package of pecan panko to
> $14.84 for a package of coconut shrimp," the agency said in a statement."
>
> Yeah, but she's not worried about being overcharged. She's worried about
> shoes.
>
> Whole Foods aside, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not
> want to shop at grocery stores that also sell clothing and shoes. That's
> not what I go there for.

What? You're not just wacked, you are wiggity wacked! I am not worried
about shoes. I said that I have bought them there but that I don't think
they sell them any more. I have not bought a lot of food there. I go in
there less than once a month and what I have bought has never been more than
two bags full if that. Most of the time perhaps half a bag.

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:40:57 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 6/26/2015 9:30 AM, Miss Kitty wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> >>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> >>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> >>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard
> >>> to
> >>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> >>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it
> >>> wasn't
> >>> much at all.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
> >>
> >> You buy shoes at a grocery store?
> >
> > The article specifically talks about PRE-PACKAGED FOODS:
> >
> > "New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday that
> > an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found systemic
> > overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food."
> >
> > New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday that
> > an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found systemic
> > overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food.
> >
> > "The overcharges ranged from [80 cents] for a package of pecan panko to
> > $14.84 for a package of coconut shrimp," the agency said in a statement."
> >
> > Yeah, but she's not worried about being overcharged. She's worried about
> > shoes.
> >
> > Whole Foods aside, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not
> > want to shop at grocery stores that also sell clothing and shoes. That's
> > not what I go there for.
>
> What? You're not just wacked, you are wiggity wacked! I am not worried
> about shoes. I said that I have bought them there but that I don't think
> they sell them any more. I have not bought a lot of food there. I go in
> there less than once a month and what I have bought has never been more than
> two bags full if that. Most of the time perhaps half a bag.

Then what was the point of your post. Or any of your posts. You never really say anything of use. I know - neither do I.

On 6/26/2015 6:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/26/2015 9:30 AM, Miss Kitty wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop
>>>> there
>>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I
>>>> wasn't
>>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not
>>>> hard to
>>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure
>>>> if I
>>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it
>>>> wasn't
>>>> much at all.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>>>>
>>>
>>> You buy shoes at a grocery store?
>>
>> The article specifically talks about PRE-PACKAGED FOODS:
>>
>> "New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday
>> that an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found
>> systemic overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food."
>>
>> New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday
>> that an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found
>> systemic overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food.
>>
>> "The overcharges ranged from [80 cents] for a package of pecan panko
>> to $14.84 for a package of coconut shrimp," the agency said in a
>> statement."
>>
>> Yeah, but she's not worried about being overcharged. She's worried
>> about shoes.
>>
>> Whole Foods aside, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not
>> want to shop at grocery stores that also sell clothing and shoes.
>> That's not what I go there for.
>
> What? You're not just wacked, you are wiggity wacked! I am not worried
> about shoes. I said that I have bought them there but that I don't
> think they sell them any more. I have not bought a lot of food there.
> I go in there less than once a month and what I have bought has never
> been more than two bags full if that. Most of the time perhaps half a bag.

So why are you posting an article saying "Whole Foods screwed people
again"? Yes, you did say you rarely shop there so if you don't, why do
you care? It's not affecting you (other than they don't sell shoes
anymore).

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/26/2015 6:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 6/26/2015 9:30 AM, Miss Kitty wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop
>>>>> there
>>>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I
>>>>> wasn't
>>>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>>>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not
>>>>> hard to
>>>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure
>>>>> if I
>>>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it
>>>>> wasn't
>>>>> much at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You buy shoes at a grocery store?
>>>
>>> The article specifically talks about PRE-PACKAGED FOODS:
>>>
>>> "New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday
>>> that an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found
>>> systemic overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food."
>>>
>>> New York City's Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) said Wednesday
>>> that an ongoing investigation of Whole Foods Market stores has found
>>> systemic overcharging of its customers for prepackaged food.
>>>
>>> "The overcharges ranged from [80 cents] for a package of pecan panko
>>> to $14.84 for a package of coconut shrimp," the agency said in a
>>> statement."
>>>
>>> Yeah, but she's not worried about being overcharged. She's worried
>>> about shoes.
>>>
>>> Whole Foods aside, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not
>>> want to shop at grocery stores that also sell clothing and shoes.
>>> That's not what I go there for.
>>
>> What? You're not just wacked, you are wiggity wacked! I am not worried
>> about shoes. I said that I have bought them there but that I don't
>> think they sell them any more. I have not bought a lot of food there.
>> I go in there less than once a month and what I have bought has never
>> been more than two bags full if that. Most of the time perhaps half a
>> bag.
>
> So why are you posting an article saying "Whole Foods screwed people
> again"? Yes, you did say you rarely shop there so if you don't, why do
> you care? It's not affecting you (other than they don't sell shoes
> anymore).

Did you even read the link? Does it have to affect *me* for me to post a
link?

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 12:47:44 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
> much at all.
>
> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb

I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:29:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 12:47:44 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
> I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.

That flap meat will make it all worthwhile. Hang the cost, you only
live once!

One of those Mexican grocery stores that has pre-marinaded meats in
the butcher case is near my DD's & SIL's house, so we ate soft tacos
yesterday with a choice of chicken, pork or beef. The deli case at
that store has an assortment of salsas from fresca to hot, so they got
one at each end - the store even sells freshly made guacamole at the a
price that makes buying whole avocados to make it yourself a choice
only if they have run out of the deli guac (which is usually gone by
3PM, even on a weekday). The only thing they forgot to buy was queso,
but I don't put cheese on my taco anyway so I didn't care. Basically,
dinner prep was a lot of chopping. Mexican rice is easy to make, open
a can of refried beans to heat up, roast a few vegetables, throw some
meat + tortillas on the BBQ and dinner is done. All we needed to do
was cut the cooked meat and prepare the other fixings. How easy is
that?

--

sf

dsi1 > wrote:
>Julie Bove wrote:
>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>> much at all.
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>
>I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.

Too bad Whole Foods won't sell you a newsreader that scrolls properly.

On 6/28/2015 3:00 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:29:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 12:47:44 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>>
>> I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.
>
> That flap meat will make it all worthwhile. Hang the cost, you only
> live once!

It was one of the more affordable cuts @ $6.99/lb. I'm marinating it in
a bag. At some point in time, I'll just place the bag in 130 degree
water. Then it'll just be a sear in my cast iron - if I can find the
damn thing! I hope you're right about the meat.

>
> One of those Mexican grocery stores that has pre-marinaded meats in
> the butcher case is near my DD's & SIL's house, so we ate soft tacos
> yesterday with a choice of chicken, pork or beef. The deli case at
> that store has an assortment of salsas from fresca to hot, so they got
> one at each end - the store even sells freshly made guacamole at the a
> price that makes buying whole avocados to make it yourself a choice
> only if they have run out of the deli guac (which is usually gone by
> 3PM, even on a weekday). The only thing they forgot to buy was queso,
> but I don't put cheese on my taco anyway so I didn't care. Basically,
> dinner prep was a lot of chopping. Mexican rice is easy to make, open
> a can of refried beans to heat up, roast a few vegetables, throw some
> meat + tortillas on the BBQ and dinner is done. All we needed to do
> was cut the cooked meat and prepare the other fixings. How easy is
> that?
>

We have a serious problem with the Mexican marts - there aren't any!
Well, none that sells meats or has a deli.

On 6/28/2015 5:15 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>>> much at all.
>>>
>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>>
>> I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.
>
> Too bad Whole Foods won't sell you a newsreader that scrolls properly.
>

Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee hee.

On 6/28/2015 4:44 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee hee.

What is better? Linux? PITA and lacks drivers. Android? Won't run
many programs. Apple OS? Control freaks that will never get a penny
from me.

On 6/28/2015 1:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/28/2015 4:44 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
>> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
>> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
>> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee
>> hee.
>
> What is better? Linux? PITA and lacks drivers. Android? Won't run
> many programs. Apple OS? Control freaks that will never get a penny
> from me.

Since we're all supposed to be adults here, don't expect me to tell you
what to use. Go ask some other bloke. Also, please do not come to me
whining about how you don't like the way I post or what I post. That's
solely my business. If you have differing points of view you can state
it - just as long as your view doesn't include me in it. Then we will
get along just fine.

What burns me up is crabby old coots that have been bitching about
Windows for nearly 20 years and now act like they're gonna die without
it. Go figure! :-)

On 6/28/2015 2:22 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:16:49 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2015 1:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2015 4:44 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
>>>> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
>>>> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
>>>> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee
>>>> hee.
>>>
>>> What is better? Linux? PITA and lacks drivers. Android? Won't run
>>> many programs. Apple OS? Control freaks that will never get a penny
>>> from me.
>>
>> Since we're all supposed to be adults here, don't expect me to tell you
>> what to use. Go ask some other bloke. Also, please do not come to me
>> whining about how you don't like the way I post or what I post. That's
>> solely my business. If you have differing points of view you can state
>> it - just as long as your view doesn't include me in it. Then we will
>> get along just fine.
>>
>> What burns me up is crabby old coots that have been bitching about
>> Windows for nearly 20 years and now act like they're gonna die without
>> it. Go figure! :-)
>
> How many Dr Peppers did you drink?
>

I haven't had a Dr. Pepper in months. Please update your database. :-)

On 6/28/2015 7:58 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:31:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2015 4:44 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
>>> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
>>> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
>>> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee hee.
>>
>> What is better? Linux? PITA and lacks drivers. Android? Won't run
>> many programs. Apple OS? Control freaks that will never get a penny
>>from me.
>
> Oh how I agree! I gather that after Win7 microsoft is moving towards
> 10 which is a slight better edition of 8/8.1 - I knew something was
> wrong when MS offered a 'free' upgrade to Win 10. They will have to
> prise Win7 from my cold dead hands. I'll give up puting rather than
> buy anything bitten apple.

W7 is very good. My wife has a small laptop with 8.1 and it is
terrible. My computer guy has been using pre-release beta versions of
W10 for about a year and he says it is ok to upgrade. Works very
similar to W7. He says to do a manual install to be sure you get the
right features, like no tiles.

On 6/28/2015 8:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> What is better? Linux? PITA and lacks drivers. Android? Won't run
>> many programs. Apple OS? Control freaks that will never get a penny
>> from me.
>
> Since we're all supposed to be adults here, don't expect me to tell you
> what to use. Go ask some other bloke. Also, please do not come to me
> whining about how you don't like the way I post or what I post. That's
> solely my business. If you have differing points of view you can state
> it - just as long as your view doesn't include me in it. Then we will
> get along just fine.

Sorry, I thought mature adults can give honest opinions on a variety of
subjects. Maybe you just don't know.

I don't care what you post or how you post it, that was someone else.

On 6/28/2015 3:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/28/2015 8:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>>
>>> What is better? Linux? PITA and lacks drivers. Android? Won't run
>>> many programs. Apple OS? Control freaks that will never get a penny
>>> from me.
>>
>> Since we're all supposed to be adults here, don't expect me to tell you
>> what to use. Go ask some other bloke. Also, please do not come to me
>> whining about how you don't like the way I post or what I post. That's
>> solely my business. If you have differing points of view you can state
>> it - just as long as your view doesn't include me in it. Then we will
>> get along just fine.
>
> Sorry, I thought mature adults can give honest opinions on a variety of
> subjects. Maybe you just don't know.
>
> I don't care what you post or how you post it, that was someone else.
>

Mature adults can give honest opinions most times. In this group it
hardly seems worth the hassles so I just stick with the facts. Sorry
about not being clear - I don't literally mean you. I understand that
you don't care about how I post or if you do, you refrain from giving
your opinion. This is much appreciated!

On 6/28/2015 4:08 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:44:44 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2015 5:15 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> dsi1 > wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
>>>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
>>>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
>>>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
>>>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
>>>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
>>>>> much at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
>>>>
>>>> I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.
>>>
>>> Too bad Whole Foods won't sell you a newsreader that scrolls properly.
>>>
>>
>> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
>> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
>> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
>> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee hee.
>
> Microsoft made computers acceptable for non nerds, like most of yall
> here. That's quite a performance. And they're not about to fade away
> just yet.
>

Me, I can't wait for Microsoft to die and just blow away in the wind.
Hee hee.

On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 7:17:37 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:42:18 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On 6/28/2015 4:08 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:44:44 -1000, dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6/28/2015 5:15 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>>> dsi1 <> wrote:
> >>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> >>>>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> >>>>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> >>>>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
> >>>>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> >>>>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
> >>>>>> much at all.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Too bad Whole Foods won't sell you a newsreader that scrolls properly.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
> >>> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
> >>> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
> >>> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee hee.
> >>
> >> Microsoft made computers acceptable for non nerds, like most of yall
> >> here. That's quite a performance. And they're not about to fade away
> >> just yet.
> >>
> >
> >Me, I can't wait for Microsoft to die and just blow away in the wind.
> >Hee hee.
>
> What operating system did you go on the internet with for the first
> time?
>
> --
> Bruce

That would be BASIC on a Commodore 64. I loved that machine! Who the heck didn't?

dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 7:17:37 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > What operating system did you go on the internet with for the first
> > time?
> >
>
> That would be BASIC on a Commodore 64. I loved that machine! Who the heck didn't?

My first was the Commodore Vic-20. Next was the C-64. I loved them and
I've still got them.

On 2015-06-29 3:06 AM, dsi1 wrote:

>> What operating system did you go on the internet with for the first
>> time?
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>
> That would be BASIC on a Commodore 64. I loved that machine! Who the heck didn't?
>


For me, it was BASIC on a COCO II. Then MS DOS. It was pretty
primitive, but things got a heck of a lot better with Windows.

On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 5:06:25 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 04:53:00 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 7:17:37 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> > What operating system did you go on the internet with for the first
> >> > time?
> >> >
> >>
> >> That would be BASIC on a Commodore 64. I loved that machine! Who the heck didn't?
> >
> >My first was the Commodore Vic-20. Next was the C-64. I loved them and
> >I've still got them.
>
> You went to www.someaddress with your Vic 20?

www.someaddress isn't "the Internet". It's "the world wide web".
The Internet predated the http protocol.

My first experience with the Internet was on an Amdahl 470 mainframe.
My second was on a VAX 6000.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

On 6/29/2015 12:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> Mature adults can give honest opinions most times. In this group it
> hardly seems worth the hassles so I just stick with the facts.

You do have a point there.

On 6/28/2015 9:51 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> W7 is very good. My wife has a small laptop with 8.1 and it is
> terrible. My computer guy has been using pre-release beta versions of
> W10 for about a year and he says it is ok to upgrade. Works very
> similar to W7. He says to do a manual install to be sure you get the
> right features, like no tiles.

The computer I use at work has Win8. What bugs me about it is this:
It's a computer for work. But I have to maneuver past all the crap that
loads as part of the desktop. Pre-installed apps. Shopping apps, music
apps, you name it there's a pre-installed app for it. It was
(apparently) written for smartphones and touch screens. Sorry, I don't
work at McDonald's and I'm using the machine for business not for
shopping at Zappos.

I haven't seen Windows 10. If it's akin to Win7 I'll be okay with it.
Meanwhile, as long as this PC lasts I'll stick with Win7. In fact, I
have a spare Win7 PC so chances are I won't have to deal with any
upgrades for a few years.

Jill

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:54:46 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:


snip
>
>The computer I use at work has Win8. What bugs me about it is this:
>It's a computer for work. But I have to maneuver past all the crap that
>loads as part of the desktop. Pre-installed apps. Shopping apps, music
>apps, you name it there's a pre-installed app for it. It was
>(apparently) written for smartphones and touch screens. Sorry, I don't
>work at McDonald's and I'm using the machine for business not for
>shopping at Zappos.
>
>I haven't seen Windows 10. If it's akin to Win7 I'll be okay with it.
>Meanwhile, as long as this PC lasts I'll stick with Win7. In fact, I
>have a spare Win7 PC so chances are I won't have to deal with any
>upgrades for a few years.
>
>Jill
I don't have Win 8. Are you not able to take these apps off of the
Startup Menu?
Janet US

On 6/29/2015 12:13 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:54:46 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>
> snip
>>
>> The computer I use at work has Win8. What bugs me about it is this:
>> It's a computer for work. But I have to maneuver past all the crap that
>> loads as part of the desktop. Pre-installed apps. Shopping apps, music
>> apps, you name it there's a pre-installed app for it. It was
>> (apparently) written for smartphones and touch screens. Sorry, I don't
>> work at McDonald's and I'm using the machine for business not for
>> shopping at Zappos.
>>
>> I haven't seen Windows 10. If it's akin to Win7 I'll be okay with it.
>> Meanwhile, as long as this PC lasts I'll stick with Win7. In fact, I
>> have a spare Win7 PC so chances are I won't have to deal with any
>> upgrades for a few years.
>>
>> Jill
> I don't have Win 8. Are you not able to take these apps off of the
> Startup Menu?
> Janet US
>
Well, it's a work computer so I'm not at liberty to do just anthing I
want to with the machine. BUT... it starts up with these apps loaded.
And good luck finding the friggin' START menu! Windows 8 is that bad.

Whoever set it up had it set to turn on the screen saver every 60
seconds. How annoying! Not just a simple click from the Start Menu to
get to the Control Panel. No, that would be too easy. That was one
thing I felt I could change since I was the one sitting in front of it
every day.

I don't know enough about Win8 to take a chance trying to change what it
loads on Startup. If it was my PC I might (after backing it up first).
I just know I do not like Win8.

Jill

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:35:07 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/29/2015 12:13 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:54:46 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> The computer I use at work has Win8. What bugs me about it is this:
>>> It's a computer for work. But I have to maneuver past all the crap that
>>> loads as part of the desktop. Pre-installed apps. Shopping apps, music
>>> apps, you name it there's a pre-installed app for it. It was
>>> (apparently) written for smartphones and touch screens. Sorry, I don't
>>> work at McDonald's and I'm using the machine for business not for
>>> shopping at Zappos.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen Windows 10. If it's akin to Win7 I'll be okay with it.
>>> Meanwhile, as long as this PC lasts I'll stick with Win7. In fact, I
>>> have a spare Win7 PC so chances are I won't have to deal with any
>>> upgrades for a few years.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> I don't have Win 8. Are you not able to take these apps off of the
>> Startup Menu?
>> Janet US
>>
>Well, it's a work computer so I'm not at liberty to do just anthing I
>want to with the machine. BUT... it starts up with these apps loaded.
>And good luck finding the friggin' START menu! Windows 8 is that bad.
>
>Whoever set it up had it set to turn on the screen saver every 60
>seconds. How annoying! Not just a simple click from the Start Menu to
>get to the Control Panel. No, that would be too easy. That was one
>thing I felt I could change since I was the one sitting in front of it
>every day.
>
>I don't know enough about Win8 to take a chance trying to change what it
>loads on Startup. If it was my PC I might (after backing it up first).
> I just know I do not like Win8.
>
>Jill

Wow! That is annoying.
Janet US

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:35:07 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> And good luck finding the friggin' START menu! Windows 8 is that bad.

Have you tried this?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-is-start-menu
Where is the Start menu?

The Start screen replaces the Start menu in Windows 8.1 and Windows RT
8.1. Open Start by swiping in from the right edge of the screen and
then tapping Start. (Or, if you're using a mouse, point to the
lower-left corner of the screen, move your mouse all the way into the
corner, and then click Start.)

--

sf

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:35:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> For me, it was BASIC on a COCO II. Then MS DOS. It was pretty
> primitive, but things got a heck of a lot better with Windows.

Absolutely hated DOS and still have that cheater bar/ruler to remind
myself how much I didn't like it and why. Loved my Win3.1. I don't
use shortcuts, never will and use a little program called All Chars
when I need to insert a degree symbol or cent sign. I still worship
the ground Bill walks on although I haven't liked all the upgrades
since then as much as I liked that one.

--

sf

On 6/29/2015 12:50 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:35:07 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> And good luck finding the friggin' START menu! Windows 8 is that bad.
>
> Have you tried this?
>
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-is-start-menu
> Where is the Start menu?
>
> The Start screen replaces the Start menu in Windows 8.1 and Windows RT
> 8.1. Open Start by swiping in from the right edge of the screen and
> then tapping Start. (Or, if you're using a mouse, point to the
> lower-left corner of the screen, move your mouse all the way into the
> corner, and then click Start.)
>
Swiping? I'm using it on a work computer with a mouse and a keyboard,
not a smartphone. It sucks. Why should I have to move the mouse all
the way past the bullshit apps to get to a basic operating function way
up in the corner?

It was written for kids. Or for people who are obsessed with
smartphones. Not for people who are trying to do any work using a computer.

Jill

On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 11:05:25 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 00:06:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 7:17:37 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:42:18 -1000, dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 6/28/2015 4:08 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:44:44 -1000, dsi1
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 6/28/2015 5:15 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> >>>> dsi1 <> wrote:
> >> >>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Whole Foods screwed people again. I am thankful that I don't shop there
> >> >>>>>> often. I did buy a couple of pairs of shoes in there so I know I wasn't
> >> >>>>>> overcharged on those. Our store seems to no longer sell shoes. And I
> >> >>>>>> normally buy only one bag of things, not normally full so it's not hard to
> >> >>>>>> see if the things are ringing up correctly. However, I am not sure if I
> >> >>>>>> have bought things to which this article would apply. If I did, it wasn't
> >> >>>>>> much at all.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/business/cons...1026?cid=sm_fb
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I went to Whole Foods tonight and bought some flap meat and a couple of Cubano sandwiches. It came out to be thirty seven bucks. I guess it was kind of pricey but, there's no place else to get either of those items.. The Cubans were tasty and the flap meat will be marinated and cooked sous vide. A wonderful time will be had by all.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Too bad Whole Foods won't sell you a newsreader that scrolls properly.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Too bad you think that your 90s programs are the cat's meow. Your reader
> >> >>> forces you to stick with Windows - how backwards is that? It's people
> >> >>> like you that won't allow Microsoft to fade away into the night simply
> >> >>> because you're afraid of changing. Hope you're proud of yourself. Hee hee.
> >> >>
> >> >> Microsoft made computers acceptable for non nerds, like most of yall
> >> >> here. That's quite a performance. And they're not about to fade away
> >> >> just yet.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Me, I can't wait for Microsoft to die and just blow away in the wind.
> >> >Hee hee.
> >>
> >> What operating system did you go on the internet with for the first
> >> time?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bruce
> >
> >That would be BASIC on a Commodore 64. I loved that machine! Who the heck didn't?
>
> And you went on the Internet with it? www etc? Bulletin boards are
> another matter.
>
> --
> Bruce

No internet in the early 80s. I did have a modem though.

On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 10:52:18 PM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 7:17:37 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > What operating system did you go on the internet with for the first
> > > time?
> > >
> >
> > That would be BASIC on a Commodore 64. I loved that machine! Who the heck didn't?
>
> My first was the Commodore Vic-20. Next was the C-64. I loved them and
> I've still got them.

The Commodores were my machines of choice for a programming class I took. To start programming you just had to type out a number line. The Macs and the PCs had to have other programs loaded in to program. I didn't have the time to do that. You could program, run, and debug, on the fly. The Commodores allowed me to be faster than the other students.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:43:24 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 6/29/2015 12:50 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:35:07 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> And good luck finding the friggin' START menu! Windows 8 is that bad.
> >
> > Have you tried this?
> >
> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-is-start-menu
> > Where is the Start menu?
> >
> > The Start screen replaces the Start menu in Windows 8.1 and Windows RT
> > 8.1. Open Start by swiping in from the right edge of the screen and
> > then tapping Start. (Or, if you're using a mouse, point to the
> > lower-left corner of the screen, move your mouse all the way into the
> > corner, and then click Start.)
> >
> Swiping? I'm using it on a work computer with a mouse and a keyboard,
> not a smartphone. It sucks. Why should I have to move the mouse all
> the way past the bullshit apps to get to a basic operating function way
> up in the corner?

Welcome to the modern world. Sounds like you didn't take the time
read what I posted before you reacted. Mouse directions are included.
Computers have a touch screen option now. Mine could have come with a
touch screen if I wanted it, but I didn't.
>
> It was written for kids. Or for people who are obsessed with
> smartphones. Not for people who are trying to do any work using a computer.
>
Honestly, Jill. I don't care who or what it was written for. Your
boss bought the wrong computer OS for the office, probably because it
was cheap. The start button on 8.1 is hidden, but it exists. I told
you how to find it and the rest is up to you now.

--

sf