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If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
good things about "aero press".
http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK

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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> good things about "aero press".
> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
>
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That looks pretty good. I'm trying to get the French press to work. I've been using putting a paper filter on the plunger/screen to get a batter filtration. I'll see if I can get it to work with an espresso grind. Will check out the Aeropress too. Thanks!
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On 2/7/2015 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
>> good things about "aero press".
>> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
>>
>> --
>> A kitchen without a cook is just a room

>
> That looks pretty good. I'm trying to get the French press to work. I've been using putting a paper filter on the plunger/screen to get a batter filtration. I'll see if I can get it to work with an espresso grind. Will check out the Aeropress too. Thanks!
>

I find that when I use a cafetiere/French press, it works better with a
coarser grind, rather than a fine one.
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 11:29:51 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 2/7/2015 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> >> good things about "aero press".
> >> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
> >>
> >> --
> >> A kitchen without a cook is just a room

> >
> > That looks pretty good. I'm trying to get the French press to work. I've been using putting a paper filter on the plunger/screen to get a batter filtration. I'll see if I can get it to work with an espresso grind. Will check out the Aeropress too. Thanks!
> >

> I find that when I use a cafetiere/French press, it works better with a
> coarser grind, rather than a fine one.


I like to try everything every which way. It might be that I'll get too much sludge with the espresso grind but I gots to try. My favorite coffee is Trung Nguyen in the can. The stuff is ground so fine that it clogs up the paper filters in drip coffee makers. I'm using a course grind but that doesn't seem to be getting a good brew. I'll try a hotter temperature next time. Thanks!
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On 2015-02-07 21:58:10 +0000, dsi1 said:

> My favorite coffee is Trung Nguyen in the can. The stuff is ground so
> fine that it clogs up the paper filters in drip coffee makers. I'm
> using a course grind but that doesn't seem to be getting a good brew.
> I'll try a hotter temperature next time. Thanks!


One of the better changes I made in my coffee regimen was to begin
buying whole beans and grinding just enough for the morning's pot and
no more. It made a significant difference.
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-10, Glutton wrote:
> On 2015-02-07 21:58:10 +0000, dsi1 said:
>
> > My favorite coffee is Trung Nguyen in the can. The stuff is ground so
> > fine that it clogs up the paper filters in drip coffee makers. I'm
> > using a course grind but that doesn't seem to be getting a good brew.
> > I'll try a hotter temperature next time. Thanks!

>
> One of the better changes I made in my coffee regimen was to begin
> buying whole beans and grinding just enough for the morning's pot and
> no more. It made a significant difference.
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I used to grind my beans before. These days, I don't want to do that anymore. My guess is all I need is a can of Trung Nguyen and it won't matter which way I brew the coffee.

I've used the Vietnamese coffee filter thingies and just hated it! It takes forever to brew a cup. No wonder those guys won the war - they just waited us American out. :-)
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 13:58:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
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> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 11:29:51 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 2/7/2015 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> > >> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> > >> good things about "aero press".
> > >> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> A kitchen without a cook is just a room
> > >
> > > That looks pretty good. I'm trying to get the French press to work. I've been using putting a paper filter on the plunger/screen to get a batter filtration. I'll see if I can get it to work with an espresso grind. Will check out the Aeropress too. Thanks!
> > >

> > I find that when I use a cafetiere/French press, it works better with a
> > coarser grind, rather than a fine one.

>
> I like to try everything every which way. It might be that I'll get too much sludge with the espresso grind but I gots to try. My favorite coffee is Trung Nguyen in the can. The stuff is ground so fine that it clogs up the paper filters in drip coffee makers. I'm using a course grind but that doesn't seem to be getting a good brew. I'll try a hotter temperature next time. Thanks!


Are you letting it steep for 4 minutes before you push the plunger
down? You can always strain the remaining grounds out with a tea
strainer, but you'll figure out eventually that coarse grind really is
the one you want to use.

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On 2/7/2015 3:12 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 13:58:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 11:29:51 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 2/7/2015 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>>>> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
>>>>> good things about "aero press".
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> A kitchen without a cook is just a room
>>>>
>>>> That looks pretty good. I'm trying to get the French press to work. I've been using putting a paper filter on the plunger/screen to get a batter filtration. I'll see if I can get it to work with an espresso grind. Will check out the Aeropress too. Thanks!
>>>>
>>> I find that when I use a cafetiere/French press, it works better with a
>>> coarser grind, rather than a fine one.

>>
>> I like to try everything every which way. It might be that I'll get too much sludge with the espresso grind but I gots to try. My favorite coffee is Trung Nguyen in the can. The stuff is ground so fine that it clogs up the paper filters in drip coffee makers. I'm using a course grind but that doesn't seem to be getting a good brew. I'll try a hotter temperature next time. Thanks!

>
> Are you letting it steep for 4 minutes before you push the plunger
> down? You can always strain the remaining grounds out with a tea
> strainer, but you'll figure out eventually that coarse grind really is
> the one you want to use.
>


I'm using a general purpose grind now - that's about as course as I want
to go. I think if I use a paper filter, I'll be able to go as fine as I
want. Thanks!
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 1:58:14 PM UTC-8, dsi1 wrote:

> I like to try everything every which way. It might be that I'll get too much sludge with the espresso grind but I gots to try. My favorite coffee is Trung Nguyen in the can. The stuff is ground so fine that it clogs up the paper filters in drip coffee makers. I'm using a course grind but that doesn't seem to be getting a good brew. I'll try a hotter temperature next time. Thanks!
>


The young dsi calls the grocery sto
"Do you have Trung Nguyen in the can?"
-- Yes we do!
"Well, let him out, for pete's sake"

But Viet coffee is ground to suit the Viet drippers. Get you some
sweetened condensed milk, and enjoy.
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 16:29:44 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 2/7/2015 3:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> >> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> >> good things about "aero press".
> >> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
> >>
> >> --
> >> A kitchen without a cook is just a room

> >
> > That looks pretty good. I'm trying to get the French press to work. I've been using putting a paper filter on the plunger/screen to get a batter filtration. I'll see if I can get it to work with an espresso grind. Will check out the Aeropress too. Thanks!
> >

> I find that when I use a cafetiere/French press, it works better with a
> coarser grind, rather than a fine one.


I think it says to use coarse in the instruction booklet, but you can
see how coarse it is in these photos.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/07/h...nd-timing.html

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Maybe the french press needed a new metal screen.
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 12:33:13 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> Maybe the french press needed a new metal screen.


My French press has the filter/screen riveted in place. You gots to replace the whole thing. OTOH, if the coffee is good, I don't mind sludge and floaty particles. It's all natural anyway. :-)
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I have a glass Bodum Brazil 8 cupper and a Thermos Nissan insulated stainless 8 cupper.
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:

>
>If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
>good things about "aero press".
>http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK


Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
ground "drip coffee" making?

William


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On 2/8/15 6:44 AM, William wrote:

> Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> ground "drip coffee" making?


Just different techniques toward the same end.

I have a Bodum SS French press, a Techniworm, a Nespresso machine, a
Jura auto, and a Gaggia Classic. I get great coffee out of all of them,
but each had its own learning curve.

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On 2015-02-08, William > wrote:

> What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly ground
> "drip coffee" making?


A French press has no parts that will absorb oils. Any drip coffee
maker that uses paper filters will absorb those oils. One merely
needs to look at the bubbles from a drip maker vs the bubbles from a
Fr press to see this difference. Ever see gasoline or oil on a puddle
of water? F/P coffee foam (bubbles, crema, etc) carry these
oils to the drinker. You can see this rainbow of oily colors on the
surface F/P bubbles. The are not present in paper filter coffee
makers. Might not be an issue if one uses a metal mesh drip filter,
but I've yet to find one that does not leave a metallic flavor to the
coffee.

nb
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On 8 Feb 2015 15:26:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>A French press has no parts that will absorb oils. Any drip coffee
>maker that uses paper filters will absorb those oils. One merely
>needs to look at the bubbles from a drip maker vs the bubbles from a
>Fr press to see this difference. Ever see gasoline or oil on a puddle
>of water? F/P coffee foam (bubbles, crema, etc) carry these
>oils to the drinker. You can see this rainbow of oily colors on the
>surface F/P bubbles. The are not present in paper filter coffee
>makers. Might not be an issue if one uses a metal mesh drip filter,
>but I've yet to find one that does not leave a metallic flavor to the
>coffee.
>
>nb


so, you enjoy the taste of the coffee more when these oils are present
in the coffee or when they are removed?

William
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On 2015-02-08, William > wrote:

> so, you enjoy the taste of the coffee more when these oils are present
> in the coffee or when they are removed?


What I find is a different level of flavor.

I long ago discovered that I become too jaded with some mild coffees.
So, I'll kick up the BAM! by using a moka brewer or using a F/P to
experience the flavanoids a little better. I brew with a paper filter
Melitta one-cup, but that's with strong Ethiopian and espresso blends.
My most recent Ethiopian coffee is a wee bit too strong for a F/P, so
I get to be lazy and use my Melitta.

nb

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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:22:17 -0500, William > wrote:

>On 8 Feb 2015 15:26:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>A French press has no parts that will absorb oils. Any drip coffee
>>maker that uses paper filters will absorb those oils. One merely
>>needs to look at the bubbles from a drip maker vs the bubbles from a
>>Fr press to see this difference. Ever see gasoline or oil on a puddle
>>of water? F/P coffee foam (bubbles, crema, etc) carry these
>>oils to the drinker. You can see this rainbow of oily colors on the
>>surface F/P bubbles. The are not present in paper filter coffee
>>makers. Might not be an issue if one uses a metal mesh drip filter,
>>but I've yet to find one that does not leave a metallic flavor to the
>>coffee.
>>
>>nb

>
>so, you enjoy the taste of the coffee more when these oils are present
>in the coffee or when they are removed?
>
>William


For one or two this makes the best coffee by far, and effortlessly:
http://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-Expre...n+Coffee+Maker
For larger quantity this makes wonderful coffee:
http://www.amazon.com/Yama-Glass-Sto...m+Coffee+Maker
I like Bustelo coffee:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Cafe-Buste...10-oz/10543894
Naturally you cannot make decent coffee without quality water...
instead of buying all kinds of rube goldberg crapola treat yourself to
a Reverse Osmosis filter... not expensive and most people can install
it themselves. Make pure water at 5¢/gallon.


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On 2/8/2015 6:44 AM, William wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>
>> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
>> good things about "aero press".
>> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK

>
> Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> ground "drip coffee" making?
>
> William
>


You are off to a good start grinding your beans. Drip coffee makers
vary though, you may or may not be getting the best possible cup of
coffee, as the time the water is on the grinds and then temperature make
a difference.

French press allows you to hit the grinds with very hot water, about 200
to 205 degrees is the best. You then have full immersion in the water
for good flavor extraction. You also have full control overr brew time.

We have a Technivorm drip and it works well I close the basket to
saturate the grounds and then slowly release the coffee into the carafe.

So, is French press better? Only you can really answer that by tasting.
For not too much money (less than $10 even) you can get one and try
it. Nice to have in case the drip machine breaks down.

I buy my wife the best beans we can find, such as 100% Kona from
smithfarms.com, but personally, I have a cup of tea.
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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:44:50 AM UTC-10, BigC300 wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >
> >If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> >good things about "aero press".
> >http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK

>
> Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> ground "drip coffee" making?
>
> William


You can get a great cup of coffee using any method. What I'm looking for is a decent cup under a specific set of circumstances i.e., I can only make one or two cups in a small area in an office with only a small sink and grinding beans is not an option. It also has to be done fairly fast.
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> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:44:50 AM UTC-10, BigC300 wrote:
> > On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> > >good things about "aero press".
> > >http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK

> >
> > Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> > incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> > maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> > ground "drip coffee" making?
> >
> > William

>
> You can get a great cup of coffee using any method. What I'm looking for is a decent cup under a specific set of circumstances i.e., I can only make one or two cups in a small area in an office with only a small sink and grinding beans is not an option. It also has to be done fairly fast.


French press isn't the best method for you because it's not quick.
You have to boil the water and then let the grounds steep for 4
minutes.
http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2013/0...e-at-home.html

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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 8:34:29 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:31:20 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:44:50 AM UTC-10, BigC300 wrote:
> > > On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> > > >good things about "aero press".
> > > >http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
> > >
> > > Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> > > incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> > > maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> > > ground "drip coffee" making?
> > >
> > > William

> >
> > You can get a great cup of coffee using any method. What I'm looking for is a decent cup under a specific set of circumstances i.e., I can only make one or two cups in a small area in an office with only a small sink and grinding beans is not an option. It also has to be done fairly fast.

>
> French press isn't the best method for you because it's not quick.
> You have to boil the water and then let the grounds steep for 4
> minutes.
> http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2013/0...e-at-home.html
>
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That's not a problem. I just fill the container with water and stick it in the microwave for 2 minutes.
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:31:20 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
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>On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:44:50 AM UTC-10, BigC300 wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
>> >good things about "aero press".
>> >http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK

>>
>> Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
>> incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
>> maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
>> ground "drip coffee" making?
>>
>> William

>
>You can get a great cup of coffee using any method.
>What I'm looking for is a decent cup under a specific
>set of circumstances i.e., I can only make one or two .
>cups in a small area in an office with only a small sink
>and grinding beans is not an option. It also has to be
>done fairly fast.


If you have use of a stove top burner this will work, a big mugful
ready in 5 minutes:
http://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-Expre...n+Coffee+Maker





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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 9:19:11 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:31:20 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:44:50 AM UTC-10, BigC300 wrote:
> >> On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> >> >good things about "aero press".
> >> >http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
> >>
> >> Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> >> incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> >> maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> >> ground "drip coffee" making?
> >>
> >> William

> >
> >You can get a great cup of coffee using any method.
> >What I'm looking for is a decent cup under a specific
> >set of circumstances i.e., I can only make one or two .
> >cups in a small area in an office with only a small sink
> >and grinding beans is not an option. It also has to be
> >done fairly fast.

>
> If you have use of a stove top burner this will work, a big mugful
> ready in 5 minutes:
> http://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-Expre...n+Coffee+Maker


No burners over here or at home. I always wanted one of those Euro-style brewers.
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> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 9:19:11 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:31:20 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:44:50 AM UTC-10, BigC300 wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:11:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> > >> >good things about "aero press".
> > >> >http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
> > >>
> > >> Pardon me ladies and gentlemen. Have I been making my coffee
> > >> incorrectly by grinding my beans and placing them in my drip coffee
> > >> maker? What is the difference between the "french press" and freshly
> > >> ground "drip coffee" making?
> > >>
> > >> William
> > >
> > >You can get a great cup of coffee using any method.
> > >What I'm looking for is a decent cup under a specific
> > >set of circumstances i.e., I can only make one or two .
> > >cups in a small area in an office with only a small sink
> > >and grinding beans is not an option. It also has to be
> > >done fairly fast.

> >
> > If you have use of a stove top burner this will work, a big mugful
> > ready in 5 minutes:
> > http://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-Expre...n+Coffee+Maker

>
> No burners over here or at home. I always wanted one of those Euro-style brewers.


Sounds like either an electric tea kettle or an induction plate.

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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:11:25 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> good things about "aero press".
> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
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French press coffee is very rich tasting.
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French press coffee can raise LDL some.
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:11:25 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
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> http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
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Do you mean a moka pot?


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On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:04:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:

> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:11:25 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > If that French Press pot doesn't work out for you, I've been reading
> > good things about "aero press".
> >
http://www.amazon.com/Aeropress-Coff.../dp/B0047BIWSK
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> >
> > A kitchen without a cook is just a ro

>
> Do you mean a moka pot?


You decide. A picture is in the link.


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I also have a Yama vac pot.
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> I also have a Yama vac pot.


My brother bought one of those for my other brother. It was a strange alcohol powered affair whose operation was non-apparent. It probably cost a couple of hundred bucks but I doubt my brother used it once. He should have stuck with a Mr. Coffee. :-)
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It is interesting to watch a vac pot work, mainly the way it sucks the coffee back to the bottom with a good bit of force.
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> It is interesting to watch a vac pot work, mainly the way it sucks the coffee back to the bottom with a good bit of force.


That would be a good demo for a basic science class. Afterwards, they can have coffee and Ho Hos.


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