I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen

I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.

Would you use any of those?

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>
>>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>
>>Would you use any of those?
>
> I've been to the UK once and I cooked a dinner there once. The main
> ingredient was canned clams from Tesco I nearly got killed driving
> there on the wrong side of the road.

So, did you blame the clams? ;-) Tesco near here has no clams at all.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:55:31 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>>>
>>>>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>>>
>>>>Would you use any of those?
>>>
>>> I've been to the UK once and I cooked a dinner there once. The main
>>> ingredient was canned clams from Tesco I nearly got killed driving
>>> there on the wrong side of the road.
>>
>>So, did you blame the clams? ;-) Tesco near here has no clams at all.
>
> This was in London. I almost got into a serious collision at the
> parking lot and I blamed myself

London is a hellhole to drive in if you are not used to UK traffic. Not
sure about the car park though ...

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:19:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:55:31 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
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>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would you use any of those?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been to the UK once and I cooked a dinner there once. The main
>>>>> ingredient was canned clams from Tesco I nearly got killed driving
>>>>> there on the wrong side of the road.
>>>>
>>>>So, did you blame the clams? ;-) Tesco near here has no clams at all.
>>>
>>> This was in London. I almost got into a serious collision at the
>>> parking lot and I blamed myself
>>
>> London is a hellhole to drive in if you are not used to UK traffic. Not
>>sure about the car park though ...
>
> Lol, the carpark wasn't particularly hectic, but the left/right thing
> is easier when you can follow other cars. At a car park most of the
> other cars are standing still

Yers that had occurred to me ... so, were you trying to outmanoeuvre one of
the parked cars?


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> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>
>>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>
>>Would you use any of those?
>
> Scallops would make a nice chowder, but I have never done so, too
> expensive. They are nice just whisked through some hot butter, do not
> overcook. I have had chowder made with mussels and though I love
> mussels, didn't care for them in chowder form.

Thanks.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:46:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:19:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
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>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
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>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
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>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Would you use any of those?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been to the UK once and I cooked a dinner there once. The main
>>>>>>> ingredient was canned clams from Tesco I nearly got killed
>>>>>>> driving
>>>>>>> there on the wrong side of the road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, did you blame the clams? ;-) Tesco near here has no clams at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was in London. I almost got into a serious collision at the
>>>>> parking lot and I blamed myself
>>>>
>>>> London is a hellhole to drive in if you are not used to UK traffic.
>>>> Not
>>>>sure about the car park though ...
>>>
>>> Lol, the carpark wasn't particularly hectic, but the left/right thing
>>> is easier when you can follow other cars. At a car park most of the
>>> other cars are standing still
>>
>>Yers that had occurred to me ... so, were you trying to outmanoeuvre one
>>of
>>the parked cars?
>
> I wanted to turn from a side lane left into a main lane of the car
> park and I wasn't expecting anybody coming from the right in my new
> lane.
>
> Generally speaking, people were quite polite about my misbehaviours,
> by the way.

Very pleased to hear it

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lucretiaborgia wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>Would you use any of those?
>
>Scallops would make a nice chowder, but I have never done so, too
>expensive. They are nice just whisked through some hot butter, do not
>overcook. I have had chowder made with mussels and though I love
>mussels, didn't care for them in chowder form.

I wouldn't use any canned bivalve's for chowder... if you can't buy
fresh live clams for chowder (preferably chowder clams) I'd use fresh
fin fish for chowder... bouillabaisse sounds good on a cold winter day
(-2ºF now), use whatever fin/shell fish is fresh... be sure to include
saffron, fennel, and orange zest, wine is optional but I'd use
sauternes.
http://www.cliffordawright.com/caw/f...lay.php/id/70/
Yummm. . . .
http://hottytoddy.com/wp-content/upl...e-DSCN6369.jpg

On 1/29/2015 8:15 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:15:10 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>
>> I wanted to turn from a side lane left into a main lane of the car
>> park and I wasn't expecting anybody coming from the right in my new
>> lane.
>>
>> Generally speaking, people were quite polite about my misbehaviours,
>> by the way.
>
> I always found/find it most likely I will forget on small, quiet
> roads. If there is already traffic there, it is obvious.
>
I've never had much trouble switching to driving on the left; sitting on
the right of the car gets most reactions correct, even using a gear
shift. I only worried about automatic motions in an emergency.

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Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
> I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>
> I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>
> Would you use any of those?

I'm sorry that you can't find them, but ( even though I have never used them
in chowder) I would use mussels, scallops, etc. It would just be seafood
chowder and very tasty I'm sure.

Cheri

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
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> On 1/29/2015 8:15 AM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:15:10 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to turn from a side lane left into a main lane of the car
>>> park and I wasn't expecting anybody coming from the right in my new
>>> lane.
>>>
>>> Generally speaking, people were quite polite about my misbehaviours,
>>> by the way.
>>
>> I always found/find it most likely I will forget on small, quiet
>> roads. If there is already traffic there, it is obvious.
>>
> I've never had much trouble switching to driving on the left; sitting on
> the right of the car gets most reactions correct, even using a gear shift.
> I only worried about automatic motions in an emergency.

I never had any problems driving in Europe up to a few years ago. Not sure I
would but up to it now

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>
>> I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>
>> Would you use any of those?
>
> I'm sorry that you can't find them, but ( even though I have never used
> them in chowder) I would use mussels, scallops, etc. It would just be
> seafood chowder and very tasty I'm sure.

Using the same recipe you shared?

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On 1/29/2015 9:03 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 1/29/2015 8:15 AM, wrote:

>> I always found/find it most likely I will forget on small, quiet
>> roads. If there is already traffic there, it is obvious.
>>
> I've never had much trouble switching to driving on the left; sitting on
> the right of the car gets most reactions correct, even using a gear
> shift. I only worried about automatic motions in an emergency.
>
Indeed. Single-track roads can be a problem when your automatic reaction
causes you to veer to the wrong side when meeting oncoming vehicles.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
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> On 1/29/2015 9:03 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>> On 1/29/2015 8:15 AM, wrote:
>
>>> I always found/find it most likely I will forget on small, quiet
>>> roads. If there is already traffic there, it is obvious.
>>>
>> I've never had much trouble switching to driving on the left; sitting on
>> the right of the car gets most reactions correct, even using a gear
>> shift. I only worried about automatic motions in an emergency.
>>
> Indeed. Single-track roads can be a problem when your automatic reaction
> causes you to veer to the wrong side when meeting oncoming vehicles.

I was talking to a bloke down the shooting club. The snow had been heavy
around that area and he had problems getting home. He doesn't have a 4x4
but he does have one with traction control. He was saying that he was
skidding everywhere ... even though he had his brakes and handbrake on ...

*sigh* I am just a female, no point me me saying owt.

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On 1/29/2015 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote
>> On 1/29/2015 9:03 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> On 1/29/2015 8:15 AM, wrote:
>>>> I always found/find it most likely I will forget on small, quiet
>>>> roads. If there is already traffic there, it is obvious.
>>> I've never had much trouble switching to driving on the left; sitting on
>>> the right of the car gets most reactions correct, even using a gear
>>> shift. I only worried about automatic motions in an emergency.
>> Indeed. Single-track roads can be a problem when your automatic
>> reaction causes you to veer to the wrong side when meeting oncoming
>> vehicles.
> I was talking to a bloke down the shooting club. The snow had been
> heavy around that area and he had problems getting home. He doesn't
> have a 4x4 but he does have one with traction control. He was saying
> that he was skidding everywhere ... even though he had his brakes and
> handbrake on ...
>
> *sigh* I am just a female, no point me me saying owt.
>
Oh dear. Even _I_ know better, and I haven't driven in years.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
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> On 1/29/2015 10:21 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > wrote
>>> On 1/29/2015 9:03 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> On 1/29/2015 8:15 AM, wrote:
>>>>> I always found/find it most likely I will forget on small, quiet
>>>>> roads. If there is already traffic there, it is obvious.
>>>> I've never had much trouble switching to driving on the left; sitting
>>>> on
>>>> the right of the car gets most reactions correct, even using a gear
>>>> shift. I only worried about automatic motions in an emergency.
>>> Indeed. Single-track roads can be a problem when your automatic
>>> reaction causes you to veer to the wrong side when meeting oncoming
>>> vehicles.
>> I was talking to a bloke down the shooting club. The snow had been
>> heavy around that area and he had problems getting home. He doesn't
>> have a 4x4 but he does have one with traction control. He was saying
>> that he was skidding everywhere ... even though he had his brakes and
>> handbrake on ...
>>
>> *sigh* I am just a female, no point me me saying owt.
>>
> Oh dear. Even _I_ know better, and I haven't driven in years.

Aye!

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
> I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>
> I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>
> Would you use any of those?

I certainly would and I have You can use mussels in anything you
would use clams in. They are slightly sweeter tasting and not in a
bad way. Never tried them in a cream based chowder, but they would
certainly work in Manhattan style chowder which is tomato based.



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>>
>>> I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>>
>>> Would you use any of those?
>>
>> I'm sorry that you can't find them, but ( even though I have never used
>> them in chowder) I would use mussels, scallops, etc. It would just be
>> seafood chowder and very tasty I'm sure.
>
> Using the same recipe you shared?

I think it would be good, but don't know for sure.

Cheri

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>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>> I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>>>
>>>> I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>>>
>>>> Would you use any of those?
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that you can't find them, but ( even though I have never used
>>> them in chowder) I would use mussels, scallops, etc. It would just be
>>> seafood chowder and very tasty I'm sure.
>>
>> Using the same recipe you shared?
>
> I think it would be good, but don't know for sure.

Ok thanks

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
>>
>> I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
>>
>> Would you use any of those?
>
> I certainly would and I have You can use mussels in anything you
> would use clams in. They are slightly sweeter tasting and not in a
> bad way. Never tried them in a cream based chowder, but they would
> certainly work in Manhattan style chowder which is tomato based.

Thanks, I'll have a look.
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:22:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I can't find clams anywhere, not fresh, not canned, not frozen
> >>
> >>I can only find Mussels, Prawns, Squid and Scallops.
> >>
> >>Would you use any of those?
> >
> > Scallops would make a nice chowder, but I have never done so, too
> > expensive. They are nice just whisked through some hot butter, do not
> > overcook. I have had chowder made with mussels and though I love
> > mussels, didn't care for them in chowder form.
>
> Thanks.

Are you looking for recipes for all of them? Combined, they are good
in Frutti di Mare - which is a light, chunky tomato sauce with pasta.
http://www.bellalimento.com/2010/04/...food-linguine/

You can always use the ubiquitous white wine, lemon juice, butter
combo for mussels, prawns or scallops.

My favorite way to eat calamari is lightly battered and quickly fried
tempura style, which is always a restaurant order for me. My second
most favorite way to eat them is in a Frutti di Mare as mentioned
above... the Frutti di Mare I order at a favorite Italian restaurant
usually consists of mussels and calamari - sometimes also with chunks
of a mild flavored fish (like cod).

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> Are you looking for recipes for all of them? Combined, they are good
> in Frutti di Mare - which is a light, chunky tomato sauce with pasta.
> http://www.bellalimento.com/2010/04/...food-linguine/

Not really, I was looking at the clam chowder.

I am not new to using shellfish, just not the chowder.

> You can always use the ubiquitous white wine, lemon juice, butter
> combo for mussels, prawns or scallops.
>
> My favorite way to eat calamari is lightly battered and quickly fried
> tempura style, which is always a restaurant order for me.

I used to make those but haven't for ages. Time to make them again I think.


My second
> most favorite way to eat them is in a Frutti di Mare as mentioned
> above... the Frutti di Mare I order at a favorite Italian restaurant
> usually consists of mussels and calamari - sometimes also with chunks
> of a mild flavored fish (like cod).

Thanks, yes. I know how to use them but the clam chowder was new to me.

I have a mix of those shellfish I mentioned and now I have them earmarked
with some salmon and white fish to make a fish pie.


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On 1/29/2015 6:55 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:22:09 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:

>> I have a mix of those shellfish I mentioned and now I have them earmarked
>> with some salmon and white fish to make a fish pie.
>
> Now there's a thought, haven't made fish pie in ages
>
Neither have I.
I have salmon and white fish in the freezer...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:22:09 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> Thanks, yes. I know how to use them but the clam chowder was new to me.
>
> I have a mix of those shellfish I mentioned and now I have them earmarked
> with some salmon and white fish to make a fish pie.

Have you ever made oyster stew?
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Soup/OysterStew.htm

Clam chowder is similar. It's a little thicker with potatoes and
celery (opt) in it.

http://norecipes.com/recipe/new-england-clam-chowder/
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...er-recipe.html
http://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/new...d-clam-chowder


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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
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> On 1/29/2015 6:55 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:22:09 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>
>>> I have a mix of those shellfish I mentioned and now I have them
>>> earmarked
>>> with some salmon and white fish to make a fish pie.
>>
>> Now there's a thought, haven't made fish pie in ages
>>
> Neither have I.
> I have salmon and white fish in the freezer...

Heh guess what we are all having for dinner this weekend)



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