Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html

Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
By David Pierson contact the reporter

San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise

Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?

That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his
vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.

The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
even though it contains no eggs.

“Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
“mayo” and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration
guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.

Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
in taste to Unilever’s Best Foods and Hellman’s brands of mayonnaise.

"We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
contain one of mayonnaise’s key ingredients – eggs – in violation of the
federal regulations that are in place to protect consumers."

The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
Newark, N.J.

Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing,
Asia’s richest tycoon.

Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo is
the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as
an alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.

Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
because it will draw attention to a food system he calls “antiquated.”

An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday afternoon.

Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs.
The yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less
watery, making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.

The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
Costco, among other stores.

Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And he
wonders when he’ll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
Creek’s vegan cookie dough.

“There might be Big Cookie soon,” he said.

On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:56:23 PM UTC-8, Travis McGee wrote:

> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?

Travis, travis, travis...

Can you guess who wrote the following?

"Sep 8
Price seems higher than Safeway but I am glad to see that it is more widely
available. I plan to buy extra when on sale but for now I have enough."

One J*l** B*v*


>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>
> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>
> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>
> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>
> That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
> in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
> vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>
> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> even though it contains no eggs.

> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
> contain one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the
> federal regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>
> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
> Newark, N.J.

Yes, they have an excellent point. Hard to sympathize with the giant, Unilever,
but an eggless mayo violates the standard of identity. If Miracle Whip had to suffer without the word "Mayo" for 3/4 of a century, why does "Just Mayo"
geta pass? And everybody knows Mayo is short for Mayonnaise. If you tell
the sandwich maker to "hold the mayo," you would not expect to find mayonnaise
on your sandwich, whether vegan or not.

On 11/10/2014 6:12 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:56:23 PM UTC-8, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>
> Travis, travis, travis...
>
> Can you guess who wrote the following?
>
> "Sep 8
> Price seems higher than Safeway but I am glad to see that it is more widely
> available. I plan to buy extra when on sale but for now I have enough."
>
> One J*l** B*v*
>
>
>>
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>
>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>
>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>
>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>
>> That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>> in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>> vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>
>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>> even though it contains no eggs.
>
>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>> contain one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the
>> federal regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>
>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
>> Newark, N.J.
>
> Yes, they have an excellent point. Hard to sympathize with the giant, Unilever,
> but an eggless mayo violates the standard of identity. If Miracle Whip had to suffer without the word "Mayo" for 3/4 of a century, why does "Just Mayo"
> geta pass? And everybody knows Mayo is short for Mayonnaise. If you tell
> the sandwich maker to "hold the mayo," you would not expect to find mayonnaise
> on your sandwich, whether vegan or not.
>

Sorry, I didn't realize that I was treading on thin ice with that post.

I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is clearly
intended to deceive.

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>
> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, even for vegans.

On 2014-11-10, Travis McGee > wrote:
> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?

Who cares?

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>
> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>
> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>
> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>
> That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek in
> San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his vegan
> start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>
> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> even though it contains no eggs.
>
> “Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved of
> false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism “mayo”
> and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration guidelines for
> mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>
> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior in
> taste to Unilever’s Best Foods and Hellman’s brands of mayonnaise.
>
> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not contain
> one of mayonnaise’s key ingredients – eggs – in violation of the federal
> regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>
> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
> Newark, N.J.
>
> Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
> financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing, Asia’s
> richest tycoon.
>
> Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo is
> the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as an
> alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.
>
> Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
> because it will draw attention to a food system he calls “antiquated.”
>
> An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
> personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday afternoon.
>
> Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs. The
> yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less watery,
> making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>
> The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
> Costco, among other stores.
>
> Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And he
> wonders when he’ll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
> Creek’s vegan cookie dough.
>
> “There might be Big Cookie soon,” he said.

Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn in
it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever. There
are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
well.

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/10/2014 6:12 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:56:23 PM UTC-8, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>
>> Travis, travis, travis...
>>
>> Can you guess who wrote the following?
>> "Sep 8
>> Price seems higher than Safeway but I am glad to see that it is more
>> widely
>> available. I plan to buy extra when on sale but for now I have enough."
>>
>> One J*l** B*v*
>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>>
>>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>>
>>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>>
>>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>>
>>> That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>> in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>>> vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>>
>>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>
>>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>>> contain one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the
>>> federal regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>>
>>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
>>> Newark, N.J.
>>
>> Yes, they have an excellent point. Hard to sympathize with the giant,
>> Unilever,
>> but an eggless mayo violates the standard of identity. If Miracle Whip
>> had to suffer without the word "Mayo" for 3/4 of a century, why does
>> "Just Mayo"
>> geta pass? And everybody knows Mayo is short for Mayonnaise. If you tell
>> the sandwich maker to "hold the mayo," you would not expect to find
>> mayonnaise
>> on your sandwich, whether vegan or not.
>>
>
> Sorry, I didn't realize that I was treading on thin ice with that post.
>
> I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is clearly
> intended to deceive.

How so? There are other brands of vegan mayo and have been for years.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>
> You must have Julie killfiled. This is Julie's substitute for sex.

No it's not and I can't eat it now. Alas I am back to Veganaise or the new
Smart Balance which are only just okay. They don't taste nearly as good as
Just Mayo but it is corn and I can no longer have corn.
>
> I have brought up the legal ramifications of likening it to mayonnaise
> and I'm glad Unilever agrees with me.
>
>> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
>> in taste to Unilever¢s Best Foods and Hellman¢s brands of mayonnaise.
>
> But that's kinda petty. I hardly believe that Just Mayo is making
> much of a dent in their sales. But I think they do have a case. So
> they tweak the name a little bit. No big deal.

I can believe it. Have you tasted the stuff?

On 11/10/2014 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>
>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>
>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>
>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>
>> That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>> in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against
>> his vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>
>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>
>> “Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>> of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>> “mayo” and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration
>> guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>
>> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
>> in taste to Unilever’s Best Foods and Hellman’s brands of mayonnaise.
>>
>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>> contain one of mayonnaise’s key ingredients – eggs – in violation of
>> the federal regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>
>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court
>> in Newark, N.J.
>>
>> Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
>> financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing,
>> Asia’s richest tycoon.
>>
>> Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo
>> is the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is
>> developing as an alternative to industrialized foods that depend on
>> animal byproducts.
>>
>> Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
>> because it will draw attention to a food system he calls “antiquated.”
>>
>> An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
>> personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday
>> afternoon.
>>
>> Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs.
>> The yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less
>> watery, making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>>
>> The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
>> Costco, among other stores.
>>
>> Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And
>> he wonders when he’ll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to
>> Hampton Creek’s vegan cookie dough.
>>
>> “There might be Big Cookie soon,” he said.
>
> Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn
> in it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever.
> There are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them
> nearly as well.

I have nothing against vegan mayonnaise, and this stuff may indeed be
good. But, one of the things I like about mayonnaise is its "eggy" taste
and smell, and this stuff would probably not compare in that respect. If
someone were to buy it, expecting an authentic mayonnaise experience,
they would probably not get what they expect. In that they would be
deceived.

All of that being said, I think I'll give this a try, if I can find it.
It might be ok on some things.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

>> I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo"
>> is clearly intended to deceive.
>
> How so? There are other brands of vegan mayo and have been
> for years.

The point that should be made is that it is sold as an eggless
product so the use of the term mayo (which I hope to hell is not
owned by Unilever) is being applied to a substance which, in
effect, is used "in place of" mayo.

I doubt anyone would be confused by vegan mayo thinking that it was
Unilever mayo with vegans in it, or that consumers of Unilever mayo
would pick this up instead thinking it was Unilever mayo.

Deceive...no...inform, yes.

--

Socialism never took root in America because the
poor there see themselves not as an exploited
proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck

On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:14:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
> >
> >http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
> >
> >Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> >By David Pierson contact the reporter
> >
> >San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
> >
> >Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
> >
> >That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
> >in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
> >vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
> >
> >The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
> >advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> >even though it contains no eggs.
> >
> >"Big Mayo strikes," said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
> >of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
> >"mayo" and not "mayonnaise." U.S. Food and Drug Administration
> >guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>
> Then I'm afraid Unilever's right. Mayo = mayonnaise and it's not
> mayonnaise.
>
But Unilever filthies up its "mayonnaise" with WHOLE EGG, and there is no
such thing as decent shelf stable mayonnaise anyway. The Just Mayo folks
should lose, but Unilever shouldn't profit, other than perhaps legal costs.

This is a cooking group. How hard is it to whip up some freakin' mayo?
Let's see? Egg yolk, oil, and lemon juice. Even made with ReaLemon, it's
OK. You don't need to carefully coddle yolks; you can use raw egg yolk.
I make salad dressing all the time, and I use raw yolk, and as long as you refrigerate it, it keeps in the fridge for at least a week.

Some company should market mayo that is made properly, electron beam
Pasteurized*, and offered in the grocer's cold case. Shelf stable olives
are another atrocity. Properly cured olives that are vacuum packed keep
for ages at fridge temps. Shelf stable jarred and canned olives belong
next to Pace-type jarred salsas, on the shelves of fallout shelters.
>
* The alternative to electron Pasteurization should be a warning that the
product contains raw egg, and consumption entails a small risk, especially
to immune compromised persons.
>
> --
> Bruce

--Bryan

On Monday, November 10, 2014 6:10:10 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>
> Unilever's product does not meet the FDA rules for the amount of oil
> required in mayonnaise (65% by weight), choosing to replace the more
> expensive oil with plain water.
>
I'd rather have "plain water" than the cheapest, crappiest oil (soy),
which is what they use because most folks who use jarred mayo don't
care anyway. They just want slather a crappy condiment onto a sandwich.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:49:33 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
> >
> > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
> >
> > Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> > By David Pierson contact the reporter
> >
> > San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
> >
> > Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
> >
> > That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek in
> > San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his vegan
> > start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
> >
> > The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
> > advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> > even though it contains no eggs.
> >
> > "Big Mayo strikes," said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved of
> > false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism "mayo"
> > and not "mayonnaise." U.S. Food and Drug Administration guidelines for
> > mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
> >
> > Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
> > demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior in
> > taste to Unilever's Best Foods and Hellman's brands of mayonnaise.
> >
> > "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
> > misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
> > statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not contain
> > one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the federal
> > regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
> >
> > The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
> > Newark, N.J.
> >
> > Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
> > financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing, Asia's
> > richest tycoon.
> >
> > Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo is
> > the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as an
> > alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.
> >
> > Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
> > because it will draw attention to a food system he calls "antiquated."
> >
> > An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
> > personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday afternoon.
> >
> > Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs. The
> > yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less watery,
> > making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
> >
> > The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
> > Costco, among other stores.
> >
> > Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And he
> > wonders when he'll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
> > Creek's vegan cookie dough.
> >
> > "There might be Big Cookie soon," he said.
>
> Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn in
> it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever. There
> are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
> well.

So why can't you have "corn" Julie? Another food to avoid?...pretty soon you'll be down to bread and water. I fear for your health with all these restrictions.
===

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:24:32 -0500, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>> I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is clearly
>> intended to deceive.
>
> It's OK to call it "mayo", or even "mayonnaise", but adjacent to that
> they have to say what differentiates it from real mayo. See how Kraft
> does it:
>
> http://southbyse.files.wordpress.com...kraft-mayo.jpg
>

Does the law say its ok to call something that does not meet the legal
requirements "mayonnaise" even if you put more words to the contrary? I
don't think so.

On 2014-11-10 20:23, Pico Rico wrote:

>
> Does the law say its ok to call something that does not meet the legal
> requirements "mayonnaise" even if you put more words to the contrary? I
> don't think so.

Maybe it is too expensive to put labels on it, like is seems to be with
GMO products.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:49:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>
>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>
>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>
>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>
>> That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek in
>> San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his vegan
>> start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>
>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>
>> “Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved of
>> false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism “mayo”
>> and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration guidelines for
>> mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>
>> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior in
>> taste to Unilever’s Best Foods and Hellman’s brands of mayonnaise.
>>
>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not contain
>> one of mayonnaise’s key ingredients – eggs – in violation of the federal
>> regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>
>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
>> Newark, N.J.
>>
>> Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
>> financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing, Asia’s
>> richest tycoon.
>>
>> Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo is
>> the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as an
>> alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.
>>
>> Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
>> because it will draw attention to a food system he calls “antiquated.”
>>
>> An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
>> personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday afternoon.
>>
>> Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs. The
>> yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less watery,
>> making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>>
>> The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
>> Costco, among other stores.
>>
>> Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And he
>> wonders when he’ll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
>> Creek’s vegan cookie dough.
>>
>> “There might be Big Cookie soon,” he said.
>
>Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn in
>it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever. There
>are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
>well.

I like Just Mayo also, and thank you for first posting about it, it's
all I use when I'm too lazy to make my own. ;-)
I guess I'm missing something because after reading your post, I
checked the ingredients on my jar of it, and I don't see any corn, or
corn oil in the ingredient list, am I missing something?
Thanks for your help

koko

--

Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/10/2014 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>>
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>>
>>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>>
>>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>>
>>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>>
>>> That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>> in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against
>>> his vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>>
>>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
>>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>>
>>> “Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>>> of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>>> “mayo” and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration
>>> guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>>
>>> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>>> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
>>> in taste to Unilever’s Best Foods and Hellman’s brands of mayonnaise.
>>>
>>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>>> contain one of mayonnaise’s key ingredients – eggs – in violation of
>>> the federal regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>>
>>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court
>>> in Newark, N.J.
>>>
>>> Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
>>> financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing,
>>> Asia’s richest tycoon.
>>>
>>> Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo
>>> is the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is
>>> developing as an alternative to industrialized foods that depend on
>>> animal byproducts.
>>>
>>> Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
>>> because it will draw attention to a food system he calls “antiquated.”
>>>
>>> An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
>>> personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs.
>>> The yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less
>>> watery, making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>>>
>>> The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
>>> Costco, among other stores.
>>>
>>> Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And
>>> he wonders when he’ll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to
>>> Hampton Creek’s vegan cookie dough.
>>>
>>> “There might be Big Cookie soon,” he said.
>>
>> Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn
>> in it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever.
>> There are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them
>> nearly as well.
>
> I have nothing against vegan mayonnaise, and this stuff may indeed be
> good. But, one of the things I like about mayonnaise is its "eggy" taste
> and smell, and this stuff would probably not compare in that respect. If
> someone were to buy it, expecting an authentic mayonnaise experience, they
> would probably not get what they expect. In that they would be deceived.
>
> All of that being said, I think I'll give this a try, if I can find it. It
> might be ok on some things.

I assure you if they bought it, they would think it was better than whatever
they had eaten in the past.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
wrote:

>Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>
>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>
>Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>By David Pierson contact the reporter
>
>San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>
>Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>
>That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>
>The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
>advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>even though it contains no eggs.

Well that's what you call the 'thin edge of the wedge. What about all
the other vegetarian/vegan products that imitate things like meat and
sausages, for example? Will there be lawsuits over those if this sets
the precedent?

Vegans really annoy me, but it's pretty unreasonable to sue this
company over the name 'mayonnaise'.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:49:33 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>> >
>> > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>> >
>> > Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>> > By David Pierson contact the reporter
>> >
>> > San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>> >
>> > Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>> >
>> > That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>> > in
>> > San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>> > vegan
>> > start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>> >
>> > The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>> > advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>> > even though it contains no eggs.
>> >
>> > "Big Mayo strikes," said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>> > of
>> > false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>> > "mayo"
>> > and not "mayonnaise." U.S. Food and Drug Administration guidelines for
>> > mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>> >
>> > Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>> > demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
>> > in
>> > taste to Unilever's Best Foods and Hellman's brands of mayonnaise.
>> >
>> > "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>> > misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>> > statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>> > contain
>> > one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the
>> > federal
>> > regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>> >
>> > The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
>> > Newark, N.J.
>> >
>> > Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
>> > financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing,
>> > Asia's
>> > richest tycoon.
>> >
>> > Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo
>> > is
>> > the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as
>> > an
>> > alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.
>> >
>> > Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
>> > because it will draw attention to a food system he calls "antiquated."
>> >
>> > An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
>> > personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday
>> > afternoon.
>> >
>> > Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs.
>> > The
>> > yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less
>> > watery,
>> > making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>> >
>> > The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
>> > Costco, among other stores.
>> >
>> > Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And
>> > he
>> > wonders when he'll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
>> > Creek's vegan cookie dough.
>> >
>> > "There might be Big Cookie soon," he said.
>>
>> Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn
>> in
>> it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever.
>> There
>> are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
>> well.
>
> So why can't you have "corn" Julie? Another food to avoid?...pretty soon
> you'll be down to bread and water. I fear for your health with all these
> restrictions.
> ===

There is more than just corn. I did try it again last Sat. but I will have
to try again. I was already sick to my stomach before I tried it. And
although I did have raised for about 24 hours, I can't say for sure that it
was the corn that did it to me. I did regain chicken and tuna but I really
don't want to go into the rest of that here.

The testing did say to lay off of any of the foods on the list for 2-4
weeks, then try them again to see what (if any) reaction I get. However,
after changing my diet, I am seeing far more normal blood sugar readings
than I have in years so I am a little reluctant to try them.

I am not the only person with multiple food intolerances. Some have a
fructose intolerance or worse. There is a person on another newsgroup that
says that she is down to about 4-5 foods. That would be bad! I'm just
thankful that there are still a lot of foods that I like that I can eat. I
eat popping sorghum now. It's more expensive than popcorn and the yield is
a lot smaller but I find that a very small amount of it is enough to quash a
craving. So far it's all good.

"koko" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:49:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
>>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>>
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>>
>>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>>
>>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>>
>>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>>
>>> That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>> in
>>> San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>>> vegan
>>> start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>>
>>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>>
>>> "Big Mayo strikes," said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>>> of
>>> false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>>> "mayo"
>>> and not "mayonnaise." U.S. Food and Drug Administration guidelines for
>>> mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>>
>>> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>>> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
>>> in
>>> taste to Unilever's Best Foods and Hellman's brands of mayonnaise.
>>>
>>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>>> contain
>>> one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the federal
>>> regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>>
>>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
>>> Newark, N.J.
>>>
>>> Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
>>> financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing,
>>> Asia's
>>> richest tycoon.
>>>
>>> Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo is
>>> the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as
>>> an
>>> alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.
>>>
>>> Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
>>> because it will draw attention to a food system he calls "antiquated."
>>>
>>> An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
>>> personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs.
>>> The
>>> yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less
>>> watery,
>>> making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>>>
>>> The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
>>> Costco, among other stores.
>>>
>>> Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And he
>>> wonders when he'll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
>>> Creek's vegan cookie dough.
>>>
>>> "There might be Big Cookie soon," he said.
>>
>>Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn in
>>it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever. There
>>are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
>>well.
>
> I like Just Mayo also, and thank you for first posting about it, it's
> all I use when I'm too lazy to make my own. ;-)
> I guess I'm missing something because after reading your post, I
> checked the ingredients on my jar of it, and I don't see any corn, or
> corn oil in the ingredient list, am I missing something?
> Thanks for your help

It's not listed. It doesn't have to be as it isn't considered a top 8
allergen. But I did contact them and their food starch is made of corn.
That may not be a problem for me really since I did make some chicken salad
with it and I also discovered that the flavoring in the chicken is corn
based. My blood sugar was fine after I ate this but for the time being, I
am doing my best to avoid corn. That being said, corn is seriously in
everything. The wax on produce, the absorbent material under meats... It's
even in baking powder. And if not corn then that is made with potatoes,
another thing I am avoiding. So if I bake and it requires baking powder, I
have to do the cream of tartar thing.

The good thing is that I don't have life threatening allergies. So if I eat
corn, it won't kill me but I am trying to avoid certain foods to keep my
blood sugar lower than it was running and so far so good.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:12:22 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


>Yes, they have an excellent point. Hard to sympathize with the giant, Unilever,
> but an eggless mayo violates the standard of identity. If Miracle Whip had to suffer without the word "Mayo" for 3/4 of a century, why does "Just Mayo"

The problem I have with this is that its a private company initiating
the lawsuit, as though they have some right to the name mayonnaise,
which is of course bullshit. They just see an opportunity to crush a
smaller competitor, nothing more.

If there is an issue over 'standard of identity', it should be dealt
with by the relevant government regulatory body.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:35:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"koko" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:49:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>>>
>>>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>>>
>>>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>>>
>>>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>>>
>>>> That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>>> in
>>>> San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>>>> vegan
>>>> start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>>>
>>>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>>>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>>>
>>>> "Big Mayo strikes," said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>>>> of
>>>> false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>>>> "mayo"
>>>> and not "mayonnaise." U.S. Food and Drug Administration guidelines for
>>>> mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>>>
>>>> Unilever is seeking compensation for lost profits and damages and
>>>> demanding that Hampton Creek refrain from declaring Just Mayo superior
>>>> in
>>>> taste to Unilever's Best Foods and Hellman's brands of mayonnaise.
>>>>
>>>> "We brought this lawsuit because use of the Just Mayo name blatantly
>>>> misleads consumers," a Unilever spokesperson said in an e-mailed
>>>> statement. "In fact, the product is Just NOT Mayo as it does not
>>>> contain
>>>> one of mayonnaise's key ingredients - eggs - in violation of the federal
>>>> regulations that are in place to protect consumers."
>>>>
>>>> The British-Dutch company filed its lawsuit Oct. 31 in federal court in
>>>> Newark, N.J.
>>>>
>>>> Just Mayo burst onto the health food scene last year with high-profile
>>>> financial backing from Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Li Ka-shing,
>>>> Asia's
>>>> richest tycoon.
>>>>
>>>> Made with Canadian yellow peas, canola oil and lemon juice, Just Mayo is
>>>> the first in a line of egg-less products Hampton Creek is developing as
>>>> an
>>>> alternative to industrialized foods that depend on animal byproducts.
>>>>
>>>> Tetrick said the Unilever lawsuit will be positive for Hampton Creek
>>>> because it will draw attention to a food system he calls "antiquated."
>>>>
>>>> An online petition in support of Hampton Creek led by food television
>>>> personality Andrew Zimmern garnered 10,000 signatures by Monday
>>>> afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Tetrick said his vegan mayo performs better than those made with eggs.
>>>> The
>>>> yellow peas help the spread stay emulsified longer and remain less
>>>> watery,
>>>> making it ideal for the food service industry, he said.
>>>>
>>>> The creamy condiment is sold at Whole Foods Market, Target, Vons and
>>>> Costco, among other stores.
>>>>
>>>> Tetrick said the egg industry also is no fan of his vegan spread. And he
>>>> wonders when he'll draw opposition from cookie dough makers to Hampton
>>>> Creek's vegan cookie dough.
>>>>
>>>> "There might be Big Cookie soon," he said.
>>>
>>>Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn in
>>>it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever. There
>>>are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
>>>well.
>>
>> I like Just Mayo also, and thank you for first posting about it, it's
>> all I use when I'm too lazy to make my own. ;-)
>> I guess I'm missing something because after reading your post, I
>> checked the ingredients on my jar of it, and I don't see any corn, or
>> corn oil in the ingredient list, am I missing something?
>> Thanks for your help
>
>It's not listed. It doesn't have to be as it isn't considered a top 8
>allergen. But I did contact them and their food starch is made of corn.
>That may not be a problem for me really since I did make some chicken salad
>with it and I also discovered that the flavoring in the chicken is corn
>based. My blood sugar was fine after I ate this but for the time being, I
>am doing my best to avoid corn. That being said, corn is seriously in
>everything. The wax on produce, the absorbent material under meats... It's
>even in baking powder. And if not corn then that is made with potatoes,
>another thing I am avoiding. So if I bake and it requires baking powder, I
>have to do the cream of tartar thing.
>
>The good thing is that I don't have life threatening allergies. So if I eat
>corn, it won't kill me but I am trying to avoid certain foods to keep my
>blood sugar lower than it was running and so far so good.

Thank you for your reply, that's good information.

koko

--

Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

In article >,
Jeßus > wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
> >
> >http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
> >
> >Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> >By David Pierson contact the reporter
> >
> >San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
> >
> >Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
> >
> >That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
> >in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his
> >vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
> >
> >The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
> >advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> >even though it contains no eggs.
>
> Well that's what you call the 'thin edge of the wedge. What about all
> the other vegetarian/vegan products that imitate things like meat and
> sausages, for example? Will there be lawsuits over those if this sets
> the precedent?

Only if they start using words like "steak" or "chicken" in the product
name. It's not about what they do or don't put in the jar; it's what
they chose to call it. There are reasons that many products have
defined-by-statute ingredient lists.


> Vegans really annoy me, but it's pretty unreasonable to sue this
> company over the name 'mayonnaise'.

Actually, I'm surprised that they aren't being sued by Kraft. Isn't
"Mayo" what it says in big letters on the label of their similar product?

Isaac

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:18:58 -0800, koko wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:49:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, much discussion of it already. It's very good. Alas, it has corn
>>>in
>>>it so I can no longer have it but it is the best tasting mayo ever.
>>>There
>>>are other vegan mayonnaises out there. But I don't like them nearly as
>>>well.
>>
>> I guess I'm missing something because after reading your post, I
>> checked the ingredients on my jar of it, and I don't see any corn, or
>> corn oil in the ingredient list, am I missing something?
>
> You missing the fact that Julie is a kook that will make up any excuse
> for not being able to eat something.
>
> Lord knows why she can't eat corn now, anyway. It's just more troll
> bait.

No, sw. There's a real reason. I may eventually be able to eat it but for
now I have eliminated certain things and my blood sugar has been much better
than it was. And no, it's not total carbs. I am still eating bread, rice
and pasta. In fact I am getting much better numbers with the bread I have
been baking than with the bread I was buying.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:29:38 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>>
>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>>
>>>Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>>By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>>
>>>San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>>
>>>Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>>
>>>That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>>in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>>>vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>>
>>>The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>>>advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>>even though it contains no eggs.
>>
>>Well that's what you call the 'thin edge of the wedge. What about all
>>the other vegetarian/vegan products that imitate things like meat and
>>sausages, for example? Will there be lawsuits over those if this sets
>>the precedent?
>>
>>Vegans really annoy me, but it's pretty unreasonable to sue this
>>company over the name 'mayonnaise'.
>
> I have no opinion about vegans but if it's not mayo it's not mayo.

I just looked up the Smart Balance and I stand corrected on that. It's
Earth Balance that makes the vegan mayo and they do call it that. Veganaise
calls theirs dressing with the real mayonnaise taste.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
wrote:

> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html

Yes, I've tried it - I'm on my second jar. AFAIC, it tastes better
than "real" mayonnaise... and that's why big business is so upset. I
have no dog in the vegan/non-vegan fight. I go by what I like and I
think Just Mayo blows their competition out of the water.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:14:07 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
> >
> >http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
> >
> >Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> >By David Pierson contact the reporter
> >
> >San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
> >
> >Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
> >
> >That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
> >in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his
> >vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
> >
> >The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
> >advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> >even though it contains no eggs.
> >
> >“Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
> >of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
> >“mayo” and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration
> >guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>
> Then I'm afraid Unilever's right. Mayo = mayonnaise and it's not
> mayonnaise.

Only the lazy call real mayonnaise "mayo".


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:34:09 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On 10 Nov 2014 23:33:28 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >On 2014-11-10, Travis McGee > wrote:
> >> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
> >
> >Who cares?
>
> Vegans?

I'm not a vegan and I prefer that product to mainstream commercial
mayonnaise.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:22:09 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

> On Monday, November 10, 2014 6:10:10 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >
> > Unilever's product does not meet the FDA rules for the amount of oil
> > required in mayonnaise (65% by weight), choosing to replace the more
> > expensive oil with plain water.
> >
> I'd rather have "plain water" than the cheapest, crappiest oil (soy),
> which is what they use because most folks who use jarred mayo don't
> care anyway. They just want slather a crappy condiment onto a sandwich.
> >
What do you expect them to do... eat it with a spoon?


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:23:23 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:29:38 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
> >>
> >>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
> >>
> >>Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
> >>By David Pierson contact the reporter
> >>
> >>San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
> >>
> >>Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
> >>
> >>That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
> >>in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his
> >>vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
> >>
> >>The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
> >>advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
> >>even though it contains no eggs.
> >
> >Well that's what you call the 'thin edge of the wedge. What about all
> >the other vegetarian/vegan products that imitate things like meat and
> >sausages, for example? Will there be lawsuits over those if this sets
> >the precedent?
> >
> >Vegans really annoy me, but it's pretty unreasonable to sue this
> >company over the name 'mayonnaise'.
>
> I have no opinion about vegans but if it's not mayo it's not mayo.

I think you solved their problem. Instead of calling it *Just* Mayo,
they can call it *NOT* Mayo! I bet it would sell like hotcakes.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 11/11/2014 1:59 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:14:07 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>>
>>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>>
>>> Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>> By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>>
>>> San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>>
>>> Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>>
>>> That’s what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>> in San Francisco, feels like he’s facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>>> vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>>
>>> The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick’s firm is engaging in false
>>> advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>> even though it contains no eggs.
>>>
>>> “Big Mayo strikes,” said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>>> of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>>> “mayo” and not “mayonnaise.” U.S. Food and Drug Administration
>>> guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>
>> Then I'm afraid Unilever's right. Mayo = mayonnaise and it's not
>> mayonnaise.
>
> Only the lazy call real mayonnaise "mayo".
>
>

Hey, I resemble that remark!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:14:07 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>> >
>> >http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>> >
>> >Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>> >By David Pierson contact the reporter
>> >
>> >San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>> >
>> >Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>> >
>> >That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>> >in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against his
>> >vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>> >
>> >The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>> >advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>> >even though it contains no eggs.
>> >
>> >"Big Mayo strikes," said Tetrick, who believes his company is absolved
>> >of false advertising claims because his spread uses the colloquialism
>> >"mayo" and not "mayonnaise." U.S. Food and Drug Administration
>> >guidelines for mayonnaise contain egg yolk.
>>
>> Then I'm afraid Unilever's right. Mayo = mayonnaise and it's not
>> mayonnaise.
>
> Only the lazy call real mayonnaise "mayo".

Call me lazy!

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:07:30 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:23:23 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:29:38 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:56:17 -0500, Travis McGee >
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it any good?
>>> >>
>>> >>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html
>>> >>
>>> >>Vegan mayonnaise maker sued by food giant Unilever
>>> >>By David Pierson contact the reporter
>>> >>
>>> >>San Francisco start-up faces suit over vegan mayonnaise
>>> >>
>>> >>Big Tobacco, Big Oil, now Big Mayo?
>>> >>
>>> >>That's what Josh Tetrick, founder and chief executive of Hampton Creek
>>> >>in San Francisco, feels like he's facing in a lawsuit filed against
>>> >>his
>>> >>vegan start-up by multinational food giant Unilever.
>>> >>
>>> >>The $67.4-billion company says Tetrick's firm is engaging in false
>>> >>advertising by describing its Just Mayo sandwich spread as mayonnaise,
>>> >>even though it contains no eggs.
>>> >
>>> >Well that's what you call the 'thin edge of the wedge. What about all
>>> >the other vegetarian/vegan products that imitate things like meat and
>>> >sausages, for example? Will there be lawsuits over those if this sets
>>> >the precedent?
>>> >
>>> >Vegans really annoy me, but it's pretty unreasonable to sue this
>>> >company over the name 'mayonnaise'.
>>>
>>> I have no opinion about vegans but if it's not mayo it's not mayo.
>>
>>I think you solved their problem. Instead of calling it *Just* Mayo,
>>they can call it *NOT* Mayo! I bet it would sell like hotcakes.
>
> MAYO BEATERS
> "I Can't Believe It's Not Mayo"

Heh.

In article >, says...


> > I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is clearly
> > intended to deceive.
>
> How so? There are other brands of vegan mayo and have been for years.

No doubt you'd believe in vegan-brand steak, too.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>
>> > I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is clearly
>> > intended to deceive.
>>
>> How so? There are other brands of vegan mayo and have been for years.
>
> No doubt you'd believe in vegan-brand steak, too.

This isn't vegan brand. And I'm sure they probably do make something of soy
or seitan that is akin to a steak although I have never looked for one. I
don't like steak so I would never seek out a vegan one. Actually the only
vegan meat-like product I have ever liked was the soy bacon. The only
reason that I got that was that we were living in a motel with only a
microwave and in those days they didn't have microwaveable bacon. However,
this microwave cooked the stuff far quicker than the indicated time on the
package. It burned and not only became inedible but left such a smoky
stench, I have never wanted it since.

I have bought various bean based burgers over the years. While I do like
them, I would just as soon eat beans and vegetables as one of those.

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >, says...
> >
> >
> >> > I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is clearly
> >> > intended to deceive.
> >>
> >> How so? There are other brands of vegan mayo and have been for years.
> >
> > No doubt you'd believe in vegan-brand steak, too.
>
> Actually the only
> vegan meat-like product I have ever liked was the soy bacon.

Q.E.D

Janet UK

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:35:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>"koko" > wrote in message
.. .

>> I like Just Mayo also, and thank you for first posting about it, it's
>> all I use when I'm too lazy to make my own. ;-)
>> I guess I'm missing something because after reading your post, I
>> checked the ingredients on my jar of it, and I don't see any corn, or
>> corn oil in the ingredient list, am I missing something?
>> Thanks for your help
>
>It's not listed. It doesn't have to be as it isn't considered a top 8
>allergen. But I did contact them and their food starch is made of corn.
>That may not be a problem for me really since I did make some chicken salad
>with it and I also discovered that the flavoring in the chicken is corn
>based.

The flavoring in the chicken? What on earth is that?

Doris

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >
>> >
>> >> > I agree with you; it's not mayonnaise, and calling it "mayo" is
>> >> > clearly
>> >> > intended to deceive.
>> >>
>> >> How so? There are other brands of vegan mayo and have been for years.
>> >
>> > No doubt you'd believe in vegan-brand steak, too.
>>
>> Actually the only
>> vegan meat-like product I have ever liked was the soy bacon.
>
> Q.E.D

Whatever that means...

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:35:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>>"koko" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>>> I like Just Mayo also, and thank you for first posting about it, it's
>>> all I use when I'm too lazy to make my own. ;-)
>>> I guess I'm missing something because after reading your post, I
>>> checked the ingredients on my jar of it, and I don't see any corn, or
>>> corn oil in the ingredient list, am I missing something?
>>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>It's not listed. It doesn't have to be as it isn't considered a top 8
>>allergen. But I did contact them and their food starch is made of corn.
>>That may not be a problem for me really since I did make some chicken
>>salad
>>with it and I also discovered that the flavoring in the chicken is corn
>>based.
>
> The flavoring in the chicken? What on earth is that?

No clue. It's the Valley Fresh in the pouch.

On 2014-11-10 11:29 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> Well that's what you call the 'thin edge of the wedge. What about all
> the other vegetarian/vegan products that imitate things like meat and
> sausages, for example? Will there be lawsuits over those if this sets
> the precedent?
>
> Vegans really annoy me, but it's pretty unreasonable to sue this
> company over the name 'mayonnaise'.
>


I have some issues with products being named something that they are
not. It is similar to the fad of making up lady drink concoctions and
calling them martinis because of the shape of the glass they are served
in. Miracle Whip has been a mayonnaise substitute for years but never
called itself mayo. As pointed out in the article, the reason they claim
for launching the suit is that it does not contain a key ingredient of
mayonnaise, the eggs, and because it compared itself their real
mayonnaise product. Their line of defense seems to be that they use the
term mayo.