"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:47:49 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:21:40 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Admittedly I don't live a life where I find myself buying
>>>> coffee every day, things like that. Still, I have zero desire
>>>> to use a debit card. I live on credit cards. Well, that sounds
>>>> bad ... I mean, I pay with a credit card, and settle up when the
>>>> bill comes in.
>>>
>>>Ditto. We tried debit cards for a little while when they first came
>>>out, but too much can go wrong and there's too much effort tied to
>>>keeping your balance straight - so we switched to using credit cards
>>>and cash only.
>>
>> What can go wrong with a debit card??? I can view my statement online
>> anytime and see daily debits.
>
> fraud protection is not nearly as good as with credit cards. And, with a
> credit card, YOU have the money while errors/fraud is sorted out.

Good point. I was reading an article about how sometimes it can take a bank
up to six months to straighten out fraud with a debit card while you're
waiting for your money. I don't usually use a debit card, so not from first
hand experience, but I had no reason do disbelieve the newspaper article.

Cheri

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message

>> > In counting out, the clerk would announce the $12.43 from $20 and count
>> > up, 2 pennies is 45 and 5 is 50, and 50 is $13, and 2 is $15 and 5 is
>> > $20.
>>
>> That's exactly what I was talking aboutl, but Janet didn't get it.
>
> Its what till operators here still do. what part of that don't you
> get, Cheri?
>
> Janet UK
>
> Janet

Well, I'm here and you're there, and since I was talking about where I AM in
my post, what part of that didn't you understand, Janet? I was also talking
about counting change as Dave illustrated, which I think you missed when I
said mostly older people still count change like that, kids don't as a rule.

Cheri

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:56:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-10-18 6:23 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:14:06 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-10-18 5:59 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Mine isn't. There is a built in over draft. Then it automatically
>>>>> transfers money from my savings account to chequing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the clarification, ours is *entirely* different in that
>>>> respect - you (or a scammer) can only spend as much as your account
>>>> balance has. Sounds like your banks are even more underhanded than
>>>> ours are...
>>>
>>> Oh? Our baking system did not collapse.
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>
>Ooops.... banking

I worked that much out, I was huh-ing at the mention of banking
systems collapsing. Unless you mean your bread maker is very reliable?

OB Food: Scotch fillet, mashed potato with horseradish and NO
asparagus spears... the frost got to them. I was so looking forward to
that asparagus

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:48:41 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-10-18 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:32:33 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> ????? After all this time?? I contacted them immediately. They talked to
> >>> the owner and the problem was acknowledged. They later said if they
> >>> didn't get the the hard copies I was not liable for the charges. They
> >>> never got them. So, pardon me if I don't have a lot of faith with CC
> >>> companies and fraud.
> >>
> >> I never said it was ideal. I said you have better legal protections in the
> >> US with credit cards vs. debit cards.
> >>
> > I don't know why cc companies operate differently between here and
> > Canada. I expect my cc company to take the charge off my bill and
> > deal with it themselves (which means they won't bother with an amount
> > like Dave's because it's so paltry - as evidenced by his experience).
> >
> >
>
> Paltry? It was about $45, and that was quite a few years ago. Would
> you consider $45 to be something too paltry to worry about? You'd just
> roll over and pay the restaurant for two very expensive lunches when you
> had only one?

I told you that I expect my cc to delete the amount I didn't accrue
and deal with it themselves.


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:27:44 -0300, wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:52:33 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
> >On 10/18/2014 6:36 PM, wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:19:07 -0400, Nancy Young
> >> > wrote:
> >
> >>> All I care about is with a credit card, it doesn't come
> >>> right out of my checking account.
> >>>
> >>> Many people are not concerned about that; I'd rather not
> >>> find my funds missing and hope the bank returns it sooner
> >>> rather than later.
> >
> >> Our banking system is different. Several years ago our conservative
> >> MPs were whining our banks should be de-regulated 'like the US banks'
> >> - thankfully the then finance minister paid no heed.
> >
> >I don't get it ... your debit card doesn't debit from
> >your account?
> >
> >Has nothing to do with the banking industry and regulations.
> >
> >nancy
>
> It would seem that it does from what you say! The debit card takes
> money from our accounts but unlike sf saying we have to hope the bank
> returns it sooner rather than later, that is totally incorrect.

I didn't say that.


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:26:34 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

> Oh, and we pay cash at Costco too.

If you're not a member, you have to. If you're a member, you can only
use their affiliated credit card.



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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:26:34 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
>> Oh, and we pay cash at Costco too.
>
> If you're not a member, you have to. If you're a member, you can only
> use their affiliated credit card.

Yes, they only accept American Express Cards, personal checks, cash, or a
debit card. No Visa or MC cards.

Cheri

On 10/18/2014 4:00 PM, Pico Rico wrote:

>>
>> What can go wrong with a debit card??? I can view my statement online
>> anytime and see daily debits.
>
> fraud protection is not nearly as good as with credit cards. And, with a
> credit card, YOU have the money while errors/fraud is sorted out.
>
>

Same protection by my bank. Same day resolution when I had a problem.

What can go wrong? Lots if you have a math problem and get some
overdraft fees. Forget to take off that $75 charge and you suddenly
bounce a check or three.

On 2014-10-18 18:50, graham wrote:
>
> No! I was raised never to owe money and apart from the house mortgage
> that I once had, I have never been in what you would call debt.
> However, when you use a credit card, you are a debtor until you pay it
> off!!!!
> Simple concept really!

Apparently it is not all that simple a concept. You seem to not to
understand the difference between a transaction that leads to you being
unable to pay and one that allows you to defer payment for a short time
at which it will be paid in full. There is little difference between
putting something on a credit card and paying it off at the end of the
month when the bill come in and a company ordering goods that they will
pay for at a pre-arranged date.

On 10/18/2014 7:08 PM, Cheri wrote:
>


> Good point. I was reading an article about how sometimes it can take a
> bank up to six months to straighten out fraud with a debit card while
> you're waiting for your money. I don't usually use a debit card, so not
> from first hand experience, but I had no reason do disbelieve the
> newspaper article.
>
> Cheri
>

I have. There were about $1200 in charges on my card. One phone call
and the money was back in my account the same day. This happened abou a
year ago and it was a Master Card branded debit card.

On 2014-10-18 19:25, wrote:

>> No! I was raised never to owe money and apart from the house mortgage
>> that I once had, I have never been in what you would call debt.
>> However, when you use a credit card, you are a debtor until you pay it
>> off!!!!
>> Simple concept really!
>> Graham
>
> You are incorrect, it is not a debt until the due date.
>

Actually, it is still a debt. The why I see it is that it is a type of
financial transaction. The issue of debt doesn't really arise until
there is a balance owing. Credit card companies send a bill at the end
of the month. That is when the payment is due. If it is paid immediately
there is no debt.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/18/2014 7:08 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Good point. I was reading an article about how sometimes it can take a
>> bank up to six months to straighten out fraud with a debit card while
>> you're waiting for your money. I don't usually use a debit card, so not
>> from first hand experience, but I had no reason do disbelieve the
>> newspaper article.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>
> I have. There were about $1200 in charges on my card. One phone call and
> the money was back in my account the same day. This happened abou a year
> ago and it was a Master Card branded debit card.

Well, obviously your experience was different than the one the newspaper
illustrated, but I've no reason to doubt that it had happened to the person
in the article. My debit card is not MC branded it's a BofA debit card, tied
to my account, but I don't know if that would make a difference or not.

Cheri

On 10/18/2014 4:45 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 4:15:27 PM UTC-4, JohnJohn wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:10:42 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:50:57 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>> What can go wrong with a debit card???
>>> It can be lost or stolen and your account emptied with no recourse.

Wrong.



> The problem is that about 20 years ago the credit card companies managed to redefine the term "debit card" in the USA. At least that seems to be what happened. It used to be that what are now called "ATM only" cards were called debit cards. VISA and MasterCard started putting their brand on them and made them both debit and credit in one card, but called them debit cards. Now most folks, including bank employees, don't realize that ATM only cards can be used as debit cards with the big difference being you *must* use a PIN and it can't be used like a credit card. So, if you lose it, the thief has to also know your PIN to use it, and has to go to a terminal where the card is swiped/read and the PIN entered. They can't just go on-line and order stuff off Amazon or whatever.
>
> I recently had to switch banks because mine was bought out and they stopped allowing their ATM cards to be used at point-of-sale terminals. I had several people at that bank insist that ATM cards never worked for that, nevermind that I have been doing it for 20+ years. There seems to be a lot of deliberate obfuscation and lack of transparency with the big banks and credit card companies. Whether that's intentional or not is left for you to decide for yourselves.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, VA
>

My bank issues ATM card that are printed ATM and that is their sole use.
They also issue Master Card branded debit cards that can be used in an
ATM with pin. as a debit card with PIN, or with a signature. Processed
like a credit card but the money still comes right out of your checking
account.

AFAIK, it had been like that for a couple of decades with the banks I've
dealt with.

On 10/18/2014 5:57 PM, Pico Rico wrote:

>>>
>>> That is not the law, but your bank may be better than what the law
>>> requires. Or maybe you only THINK it is.
>>
>> My debit card agreement specifies a maximum loss of $50 to the account
>> holder.
>>
>
> Read it closer. I bet there are strings attached, like you notify them
> within a certain number of days, etc.
>
>

Don't make bets unless it is a sure thing.
My bank clearly states it is the same protection as a credit card. It
was not like that some years ago, but it is something they have to do to
be competitive.

On 10/18/2014 5:00 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 21:51:13 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:50:57 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> What can go wrong with a debit card???
>>>
>>> It can be lost or stolen and your account emptied with no recourse.
>>
>> the issuing bank bears any fraud loss, not the card owner.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> That's not the case over here.
>
>Master Card, in practice protects you
http://www.mastercard.us/zero-liability.html
Zero Liability Protection: Limitation of Liability of Cardholders for
Unauthorized Use


Have peace of mind knowing that the financial institution that issued
your MasterCard won't hold you responsible for "unauthorized
transactions." As a MasterCard cardholder, zero liability applies to
your purchases made in the store, over the telephone, online, or via a
mobile device. As a cardholder, you will not be held responsible for
unauthorized transactions if:

you have used reasonable care in protecting your card from loss or
theft; and
you have promptly reported to your financial institution when you knew
that your MasterCard was lost or stolen.
If you believe there has been unauthorized use on your account and you
meet the conditions above, rest easy knowing you have the protection of
MasterCard’s zero liability promise. For additional protections with
respect to unauthorized transactions, please contact your bank or credit
union.

On 10/18/2014 8:57 PM, Cheri wrote:

> Well, obviously your experience was different than the one the newspaper
> illustrated, but I've no reason to doubt that it had happened to the
> person in the article. My debit card is not MC branded it's a BofA debit
> card, tied to my account, but I don't know if that would make a
> difference or not.

Seems to me there has to be some investigation. They
aren't just going to put money into your account on faith.

Before anyone reads too much into what I say, I'm not calling
anyone a liar. Simply pointing out there must be time for
someone to check out the situation.

nancy

On 10/18/2014 6:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 10/18/2014 6:47 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 18/10/2014 1:31 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>>> BTW "Credit" cards should really be called "Debt" cards, because that's
>>>> what they are.
>>>
>>> Mine ain't. I invariably pay it off in full each month and have never,
>>> ever, paid interest on a credit card.
>
>> But you are a debtor until you pay it off!
>
> That's a funny way to look at it, but if the card company
> hasn't asked you for payment yet, you're good. Then if you
> pay it in full, you are out of 'debt' each month. So what.
>
> nancy

So what you ask? This is RFC and everything has to be nitpicked.

On 10/18/2014 7:25 PM, wrote:

>>
>> No! I was raised never to owe money and apart from the house mortgage
>> that I once had, I have never been in what you would call debt.
>> However, when you use a credit card, you are a debtor until you pay it
>> off!!!!
>> Simple concept really!
>> Graham
>
> You are incorrect, it is not a debt until the due date.
>

No, it is a legal debt the moment you make the charge. It may not be
due yet, it may not be reported yet, but you still have the liability.

On 10/18/2014 6:14 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> Oh? Our baking system did not collapse.

Must have better ovens up there.

On 10/18/2014 6:36 PM, Janet wrote:

> Her lazy nurse mother and inattentive Dr father should be ashamed of
> themselves for A) not teaching her such a basic skill when she was about
> four or five and B) not noticing the deficit for 18 years.
>
> Janet UK
>

You have a valid point. You want to meet at a quarter to three? Is
that like 2:45? I've been asked a few times.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 21:44:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 10/18/2014 6:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 10/18/2014 6:47 PM, graham wrote:
> >> On 18/10/2014 1:31 PM, Janet wrote:
> >>> In article >, says...
> >>>
> >>>> BTW "Credit" cards should really be called "Debt" cards, because that's
> >>>> what they are.
> >>>
> >>> Mine ain't. I invariably pay it off in full each month and have never,
> >>> ever, paid interest on a credit card.
> >
> >> But you are a debtor until you pay it off!
> >
> > That's a funny way to look at it, but if the card company
> > hasn't asked you for payment yet, you're good. Then if you
> > pay it in full, you are out of 'debt' each month. So what.
> >
> > nancy
>
> So what you ask? This is RFC and everything has to be nitpicked.

I know and it's getting old.


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:08:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 10/18/2014 6:36 PM, Janet wrote:
>
> > Her lazy nurse mother and inattentive Dr father should be ashamed of
> > themselves for A) not teaching her such a basic skill when she was about
> > four or five and B) not noticing the deficit for 18 years.
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
>
> You have a valid point. You want to meet at a quarter to three? Is
> that like 2:45? I've been asked a few times.

I don't have a problem with people double checking that way. Why does
anyone think it's a problem when people double check using alternative
language to state an equivalent?


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 21:14:56 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:08:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/18/2014 6:36 PM, Janet wrote:
>>
>> > Her lazy nurse mother and inattentive Dr father should be ashamed of
>> > themselves for A) not teaching her such a basic skill when she was about
>> > four or five and B) not noticing the deficit for 18 years.
>> >
>> > Janet UK
>> >
>>
>> You have a valid point. You want to meet at a quarter to three? Is
>> that like 2:45? I've been asked a few times.
>
>I don't have a problem with people double checking that way.

Double checking? What's there to check?

> Why does
>anyone think it's a problem when people double check using alternative
>language to state an equivalent?

<shakes head>

On 10/18/2014 8:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>

>
> Well, obviously your experience was different than the one the newspaper
> illustrated, but I've no reason to doubt that it had happened to the
> person in the article. My debit card is not MC branded it's a BofA debit
> card, tied to my account, but I don't know if that would make a
> difference or not.
>
> Cheri

Take a look at that card. 99% chance it has a MC or Visa logo on it and
they both offer protection.

Like this
https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposi...debit-cards.go

On 10/18/2014 9:28 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 10/18/2014 8:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> Well, obviously your experience was different than the one the newspaper
>> illustrated, but I've no reason to doubt that it had happened to the
>> person in the article. My debit card is not MC branded it's a BofA debit
>> card, tied to my account, but I don't know if that would make a
>> difference or not.
>
> Seems to me there has to be some investigation. They
> aren't just going to put money into your account on faith.
>
> Before anyone reads too much into what I say, I'm not calling
> anyone a liar. Simply pointing out there must be time for
> someone to check out the situation.
>
> nancy
>

Yeah 20 minutes. It would be investigated further, but in the meantime,
the money was back in my account. About a week later I was notified it
was resolved and the money stayed.

On 10/19/2014 12:14 AM, sf wrote:

>>
>> You have a valid point. You want to meet at a quarter to three? Is
>> that like 2:45? I've been asked a few times.
>
> I don't have a problem with people double checking that way. Why does
> anyone think it's a problem when people double check using alternative
> language to state an equivalent?
>
>

Some may be douvle checking, others just don't know. I've seen it.

Just saw this:
"I told the kids to skate in clockwise circles and they stood and blinked"

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/19/2014 12:14 AM, sf wrote:
>
>>>
>>> You have a valid point. You want to meet at a quarter to three? Is
>>> that like 2:45? I've been asked a few times.
>>
>> I don't have a problem with people double checking that way. Why does
>> anyone think it's a problem when people double check using alternative
>> language to state an equivalent?
>>
>>
>
> Some may be douvle checking, others just don't know. I've seen it.
>

a teenager once asked me what time it was, and I held out my wrist, with an
analog watch. His face showed he was utterly perplexed.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/18/2014 8:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Well, obviously your experience was different than the one the newspaper
>> illustrated, but I've no reason to doubt that it had happened to the
>> person in the article. My debit card is not MC branded it's a BofA debit
>> card, tied to my account, but I don't know if that would make a
>> difference or not.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Take a look at that card. 99% chance it has a MC or Visa logo on it and
> they both offer protection.
>
> Like this
> https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposi...debit-cards.go

Yes, I did just look and it does have a Visa logo on it.

Cheri

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:59:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 10/19/2014 12:14 AM, sf wrote:
>
> >>
> >> You have a valid point. You want to meet at a quarter to three? Is
> >> that like 2:45? I've been asked a few times.
> >
> > I don't have a problem with people double checking that way. Why does
> > anyone think it's a problem when people double check using alternative
> > language to state an equivalent?
> >
> >
>
> Some may be douvle checking, others just don't know. I've seen it.
>
> Just saw this:
> "I told the kids to skate in clockwise circles and they stood and blinked"

Maybe they were blinking at the awkward language. Skate in clockwise
circles would have made more sense.... but if it was an American
giving directions to American skaters, they were probably wondering if
the speaker had lost his/her mind.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:59:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>> Just saw this:
>> "I told the kids to skate in clockwise circles and they stood and
>> blinked"
>
> Maybe they were blinking at the awkward language. Skate in clockwise
> circles would have made more sense.... but if it was an American
> giving directions to American skaters, they were probably wondering if
> the speaker had lost his/her mind.

What's awkward about the language? "Skate in clockwise circles" was what he
said, and I don't understand why an American giving those directions to
American skaters would make someone wonder if the speaker had lost his/her
mind. What am I missing?

Cheri

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:54:19 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:59:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >> Just saw this:
> >> "I told the kids to skate in clockwise circles and they stood and
> >> blinked"
> >
> > Maybe they were blinking at the awkward language. Skate in clockwise
> > circles would have made more sense.... but if it was an American
> > giving directions to American skaters, they were probably wondering if
> > the speaker had lost his/her mind.
>
> What's awkward about the language? "Skate in clockwise circles" was what he
> said, and I don't understand why an American giving those directions to
> American skaters would make someone wonder if the speaker had lost his/her
> mind. What am I missing?
>

American speed skating, car racing, foot racing, horse racing,
carnival rides and merry-go-rounds move in a counter clockwise
direction. Olympic races are also competed in a counter clockwise
direction.


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On 10/19/2014 1:41 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/18/2014 8:57 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Well, obviously your experience was different than the one the newspaper
>>> illustrated, but I've no reason to doubt that it had happened to the
>>> person in the article. My debit card is not MC branded it's a BofA debit
>>> card, tied to my account, but I don't know if that would make a
>>> difference or not.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Take a look at that card. 99% chance it has a MC or Visa logo on it
>> and they both offer protection.
>>
>> Like this
>> https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposi...debit-cards.go
>
> Yes, I did just look and it does have a Visa logo on it.
>
> Cheri

Visa backs it up, just like the credit cards.
http://usa.visa.com/personal/securit...-liability.jsp

On 10/19/2014 1:54 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:59:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>> Just saw this:
>>> "I told the kids to skate in clockwise circles and they stood and
>>> blinked"
>>
>> Maybe they were blinking at the awkward language. Skate in clockwise
>> circles would have made more sense.... but if it was an American
>> giving directions to American skaters, they were probably wondering if
>> the speaker had lost his/her mind.
>
> What's awkward about the language? "Skate in clockwise circles" was what
> he said, and I don't understand why an American giving those directions
> to American skaters would make someone wonder if the speaker had lost
> his/her mind. What am I missing?
>
> Cheri

The subtle humor.
1. Kids today are not familiar with analog clocks.
2. What do the digital clocks on the VCR do when not set?

On 10/19/2014 12:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/18/2014 9:28 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Seems to me there has to be some investigation. They
>> aren't just going to put money into your account on faith.
>>
>> Before anyone reads too much into what I say, I'm not calling
>> anyone a liar. Simply pointing out there must be time for
>> someone to check out the situation.

> Yeah 20 minutes. It would be investigated further, but in the meantime,
> the money was back in my account. About a week later I was notified it
> was resolved and the money stayed.

Obviously I'm happy for you, but I've known people
who had to wait longer.

Anyway, for me to consider having a debit card, I'd have
to get one of those free checking accounts and keep it
minimally funded.

nancy

On 10/19/2014 6:10 AM, wrote:
> Doesn't pass through my mind to be so stupid with money I guess. I
> have never bounced a check or run an overdraft and if I feel I have
> lost track of what is in my checking account, takes a minute to sign
> in and see to the dollar how much is there. I could even do it with
> my cell phone if I was a cell phone maniac.

I am very anal retentive about my accounts. I get an email from the
bank every morning listing every transaction from the day before for
both our business and personal accounts and in addition to the online
accounting, I keep a daily ledger to double-check everything and that
goes back to he days when I was a kid with a 25 cent deposit student
passbook savings account.

I have to be fairly detail oriented in my job, but even I think I am
overly redundant when it comes to money... but I know every morning
exactly what is in both accounts and I have never bounced a check.

George L

wrote:
>
> I use debit/credit for everything these days except for one place so I
> simply withdraw the amount of actual money I need for that weekly,
> most often doing it by getting cash with the transaction when paying
> for my groceries. I can't remember when I last actually entered a
> bank.

I deposit my paycheck at the bank's drive thru each week. Usually
deposit the entire check. I often have no cash on hand. I just use
debit. I do try to keep maybe $10-15 dollars in my wallet for very
small purchases but any over $5, I use the debit.

Having no cash is great for when you drive up to a store and a bum
walks up and asks if you can spare a dollar or some spare change.
Many times I really do not have any cash. heheh Get a job, you
slacker!

G.

On 10/19/2014 7:06 AM, Gary wrote:
> Having no cash is great for when you drive up to a store and a bum
> walks up and asks if you can spare a dollar or some spare change.
> Many times I really do not have any cash. heheh Get a job, you
> slacker!

Yep... I am beginning to see why you like Sheldon's posts.

Poor people are so funny... and of course, just by looking at them you
can tell that they are a "slacker".

hehehe (I guess in your mind that makes name calling all right, huh?)

George L

On 2014-10-19 12:07 AM, sf wrote:

>>
>> So what you ask? This is RFC and everything has to be nitpicked.
>
> I know and it's getting old.
>
>

The irony meter just hit a new high.

On 2014-10-19 2:18 AM, sf wrote:

>> What's awkward about the language? "Skate in clockwise circles" was what he
>> said, and I don't understand why an American giving those directions to
>> American skaters would make someone wonder if the speaker had lost his/her
>> mind. What am I missing?
>>
>
> American speed skating, car racing, foot racing, horse racing,
> carnival rides and merry-go-rounds move in a counter clockwise
> direction. Olympic races are also competed in a counter clockwise
> direction.
>
That is true, but previous generations were raised to tell time on
analog watches and clocks and can easily see which way the clock hands
move and which way is clockwise. Younger people these ways are more
likely to have most of their time reading from digital clocks and watches.

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:23:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-10-19 2:18 AM, sf wrote:
>
> >> What's awkward about the language? "Skate in clockwise circles" was what he
> >> said, and I don't understand why an American giving those directions to
> >> American skaters would make someone wonder if the speaker had lost his/her
> >> mind. What am I missing?
> >>
> >
> > American speed skating, car racing, foot racing, horse racing,
> > carnival rides and merry-go-rounds move in a counter clockwise
> > direction. Olympic races are also competed in a counter clockwise
> > direction.
> >
> That is true, but previous generations were raised to tell time on
> analog watches and clocks and can easily see which way the clock hands
> move and which way is clockwise. Younger people these ways are more
> likely to have most of their time reading from digital clocks and watches.

People skate counterclockwise at the skating rink and the person who
told them to skate in the wrong direction was an idiot.


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