http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
newsarticle&ID=1962135

http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8

On 8/30/2014 10:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> **** 'em both, I say.
>
> -sw

And you and the horse you rode on, you evil troll.

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 11:37:14 PM UTC-5, Mayo wrote:
> On 8/30/2014 10:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > **** 'em both, I say.
>
> >
>
> > -sw
>
>
>
> And you and the horse you rode on, you evil troll.

Wrong NG. You belong on alt.sex.bestiality...or here in Missouri.
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2001-...r-lovers/full/

--Bryan

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:23:24 -0500, Tara > wrote:
>
>>http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
>>newsarticle&ID=1962135
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8
>
> "best by" April, and people are expected to still have it in
> August? Plus, it's those DAMNED 'singles', that I hate.

What? Best by Feb. 2015.

On 8/31/2014 12:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 23:16:34 -0700, The Other Guy wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:23:24 -0500, Tara > wrote:
>>
>>> http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
>>> newsarticle&ID=1962135
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8
>>
>> "best by" April, and people are expected to still have it in
>> August? Plus, it's those DAMNED 'singles', that I hate.
>
> It is usually the case that the recalls are timed so that the products
> have already been consumed, but in this case the Best By dates are
> February 2015. Don't know what you're looking at since nowhere does
> it say April anywhere in the article.
>
> Gotta love mass food production This recall totals about 161,511
> pounds (about half a million dollars) of fake, adulterated "cheese".
>
> -sw
>
It's "cheese food". Whatever the hell that means.

Jill

On 8/31/2014 10:06 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Gotta love mass food production This recall totals about 161,511
> pounds (about half a million dollars) of fake, adulterated "cheese".
>
> -sw

And that doesn't even account for the tonnage you consumed...

On 8/30/2014 11:27 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:23:24 -0500, Tara wrote:
>
>> http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
>> newsarticle&ID=1962135
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8
>
> What Kraft is telling us is that they used ADULTERATED MILK PROTEIN
> CONCENTRATE which isn't even allowed in American Cheese Products
> according to the USDA.

Good job at getting the issue completely confused.

1. You have no evidence that the milk protein concentrate is
adulterated. It, like any other product, could potentially be
adulterated, and some scaremongering sites has trumped that as a
possibility. But there's quite a stretch between "possible" and
"actual", and you haven't provided any evidence that it ever has been,
particularly in the case of Kraft products.

2. The USDA doesn't regulate foods in the US, the FDA does.

3. Over a decade ago, the FDA notified Kraft that certain products
produced by them, including "Kraft Singles American Pasteurized
Process Cheese Food" contained milk protein concentrate, which meant
they were misbranded in relation to the Cheese Food standard of
identity outlined in the US Code of Federal Regulations 122.173.

4. In acknowledgement of the FDA's finding, Kraft and their
competitors have since relabled their American Cheese slices as
"Cheese Product", instead of "Cheese Food". "Cheese Product" is a term
created by the industry and as such has no CFR standard of identity.
Thus, products such as Kraft American Singles Pasteurized Prepared
Cheese Product and Land O Lakes Deli American Cheese Product are not
violating any FDA regulations.

>
> The USDA is at fault for allowing corporations to *******ize Standards
> of Identity. Milk Protein Concentrate is not allowed in anything
> labeled "Cheese" and Kraft has been lobbying this ingredient for
> almost a decade. **** 'em both, I say.
>
> -sw
>

On 8/31/2014 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/31/2014 12:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 23:16:34 -0700, The Other Guy wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:23:24 -0500, Tara >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
>>>> newsarticle&ID=1962135
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8
>>>
>>> "best by" April, and people are expected to still have it in
>>> August? Plus, it's those DAMNED 'singles', that I hate.
>>
>> It is usually the case that the recalls are timed so that the products
>> have already been consumed, but in this case the Best By dates are
>> February 2015. Don't know what you're looking at since nowhere does
>> it say April anywhere in the article.
>>
>> Gotta love mass food production This recall totals about 161,511
>> pounds (about half a million dollars) of fake, adulterated "cheese".
>>
>> -sw
>>
> It's "cheese food". Whatever the hell that means.

The slices aren't cheese food, they're "cheese product" a term coined
by the industry after the FDA notified them that including milk
protein concentrate meant they failed to meet the standard of identity
for cheese food.

As for what cheese food is - basically, it's a two or more cheeses
combined with certain specific additional dairy products, to which the
manufacturer can optionally add any or all of the following: an
emulsifier to cause all of it to form a smooth mass, an acidifying
agent to keep the pH down, water, salt, spices or flavorings,
artificial coloring, a mold inhibitor. See

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/script...cfm?fr=133.173

TITLE 21--FOOD AND DRUGS
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
SUBCHAPTER B--FOOD FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION

PART 133 -- CHEESES AND RELATED CHEESE PRODUCTS

Subpart B--Requirements for Specific Standardized Cheese and Related
Products
Sec. 133.173 Pasteurized process cheese food.

(a)(1) A pasteurized process cheese food is the food prepared by
comminuting and mixing, with the aid of heat, one or more of the
optional cheese ingredients prescribed in paragraph (c) of this
section, with one or more of the optional dairy ingredients prescribed
in paragraph (d) of this section, into a homogeneous plastic mass. One
or more of the optional ingredients specified in paragraph (e) of this
section may be used.

(2) During its preparation, a pasteurized process cheese food is
heated for not less than 30 seconds, at a temperature of not less than
150 deg. F. When tested for phosphatase by the method prescribed in
133.5(c), the phenol equivalent of 0.25 gram of pasteurized process
cheese food is not more than 3 micrograms.

(3) The moisture content of a pasteurized process cheese food is not
more than 44 percent, and the fat content is not less than 23 percent.

(4) Moisture and fat are determined by the methods prescribed in
133.5(a) and (b), except that in determining moisture the loss in
weight which occurs in drying for 5 hours, under the conditions
prescribed in such method, is taken as the weight of the moisture.

(5) The weight of the cheese ingredient prescribed by paragraph (a)(1)
of this section constitutes not less than 51 percent of the weight of
the finished pasteurized process cheese food.

(6) The weight of each variety of cheese in a pasteurized process
cheese food made with two varieties of cheese is not less than 25
percent of the total weight of both, except that the weight of blue
cheese, nuworld cheese, roquefort cheese, gorgonzola cheese, or
limburger cheese is not less than 10 percent of the total weight of
both. The weight of each variety of cheese in a pasteurized process
cheese food made with three or more varieties of cheese is not less
than 15 percent of the total weight of all, except that the weight of
blue cheese, nuworld cheese, roquefort cheese, gorgonzola cheese, or
limburger cheese is not less than 5 percent of the total weight of
all. These limits do not apply to the quantity of cheddar cheese,
washed curd cheese, colby cheese, and granular cheese in mixtures
which are designated as "American cheese" as prescribed in paragraph
(h)(5) of this section. Such mixtures are considered as one variety of
cheese for the purposes of this subparagraph.

(7) For the purposes of this section, cheddar cheese for
manufacturing, washed curd cheese for manufacturing, colby cheese for
manufacturing, granular cheese for manufacturing, brick cheese for
manufacturing, muenster cheese for manufacturing, and swiss cheese for
manufacturing are considered as cheddar cheese, washed curd cheese,
colby cheese, granular cheese, brick cheese, muenster cheese, and
swiss cheese, respectively.

(b) Pasteurized process cheese food may be smoked, or the cheese or
cheeses from which it is made may be smoked, before comminuting and
mixing, or it may contain substances prepared by condensing or
precipitating wood smoke.

(c) The optional cheese ingredients referred to in paragraph (a) of
this section are one or more cheeses of the same or two or more
varieties, except cream cheese, neufchatel cheese, cottage cheese,
creamed cottage cheese, cook cheese, and skim-milk cheese for
manufacturing, and except that hard grating cheese, semisoft part skim
cheese, and part-skim spiced cheese are not used alone or in
combination with each other as the cheese ingredient.

(d) The optional dairy ingredients referred to in paragraph (a) of
this section are cream, milk, skim milk, buttermilk, cheese whey, any
of the foregoing from which part of the water has been removed,
anhydrous milkfat, dehydrated cream, albumin from cheese whey, and
skim milk cheese for manufacturing.

(e) The other optional ingredients referred to in paragraph (a) of
this section a

(1) An emulsifying agent consisting of one or any mixture of two or
more of the following: Monosodium phosphate, disodium phosphate,
dipotassium phosphate, trisodium phosphate, sodium metaphosphate
(sodium hexametaphosphate), sodium acid pyrophosphate, tetrasodium
pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, sodium citrate, potassium
citrate, calcium citrate, sodium tartrate, and sodium potassium
tartrate, in such quantity that the weight of the solids of such
emulsifying agent is not more than 3 percent of the weight of the
pasteurized process cheese food.

(2) An acidifying agent consisting of one or any mixture of two or
more of the following: A vinegar, lactic acid, citric acid, acetic
acid, and phosphoric acid in such quantity that the pH of the
pasteurized process cheese food is not below 5.0.

(3) Water.

(4) Salt.

(5) Harmless artificial coloring.

(6) Spices or flavorings other than any which singly or in combination
with other ingredients simulate the flavor of cheese of any age or
variety.

(7) Pasteurized process cheese food in the form of slices or cuts in
consumer-sized packages may contain an optional mold-inhibiting
ingredient consisting of not more than 0.2 percent by weight of sorbic
acid, potassium sorbate, sodium sorbate, or any combination of two or
more of these, or consisting of not more than 0.3 percent by weight of
sodium propionate, calcium propionate, or a combination of sodium
propionate and calcium propionate.

(8) Pasteurized process cheese food in the form of slices or cuts in
consumer-sized packages may contain lecithin as an optional
anti-sticking agent in an amount not to exceed 0.03 percent by weight
of the finished product.

(9) Safe and suitable enzyme modified cheese.

(f) The name of the food is "Pasteurized process cheese food". The
full name of the food shall appear on the principal display panel of
the label in type of uniform size, style, and color. Wherever any word
or statement emphasizing the name of any ingredient appears on the
label (other than in an ingredient statement as specified in paragraph
(h) of this section) so conspicuously as to be easily seen under
customary conditions of purchase, the full name of the food shall
immediately and conspicuously precede or follow such word or statement
in type of at least the same size as the type used in such word or
statement.

(g) The name of the food shall include a declaration of any flavoring,
including smoke and substances prepared by condensing or precipitating
wood smoke, that characterizes the product as specified in 101.22 of
this chapter and a declaration of any spice that characterizes the
product.

(h) Each of the ingredients used in the food shall be declared on the
label as required by the applicable sections of parts 101 and 130 of
this chapter, except that cheddar cheese, washed curd cheese, colby
cheese, granular cheese, or any mixture of two or more of these may be
designated as "American cheese".

[42 FR 14366, Mar. 15, 1977, as amended at 49 FR 10095, Mar. 19, 1984;
58 FR 2894, Jan. 6, 1993]

On 9/3/2014 12:32 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:52:28 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2014 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/31/2014 12:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 23:16:34 -0700, The Other Guy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:23:24 -0500, Tara >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
>>>>>> newsarticle&ID=1962135
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8
>>>>>
>>>>> "best by" April, and people are expected to still have it in
>>>>> August? Plus, it's those DAMNED 'singles', that I hate.
>>>>
>>>> It is usually the case that the recalls are timed so that the products
>>>> have already been consumed, but in this case the Best By dates are
>>>> February 2015. Don't know what you're looking at since nowhere does
>>>> it say April anywhere in the article.
>>>>
>>>> Gotta love mass food production This recall totals about 161,511
>>>> pounds (about half a million dollars) of fake, adulterated "cheese".
>>>>
>>> It's "cheese food". Whatever the hell that means.
>>
>> The slices aren't cheese food, they're "cheese product" a term coined
>> by the industry after the FDA notified them that....
>
> You need to chill out, Moe. Most of us know fake cheese without
> having to have read the Cheese Riot Act of 20#&*^
>
> -sw
>
Who appointed you spokesman for "most of us", Yappy?

On 9/3/2014 1:32 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:52:28 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2014 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/31/2014 12:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 23:16:34 -0700, The Other Guy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:23:24 -0500, Tara >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://newscenter.kraftfoodsgroup.co...253200&p=irol-
>>>>>> newsarticle&ID=1962135
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/lx6yas8
>>>>>
>>>>> "best by" April, and people are expected to still have it in
>>>>> August? Plus, it's those DAMNED 'singles', that I hate.
>>>>
>>>> It is usually the case that the recalls are timed so that the products
>>>> have already been consumed, but in this case the Best By dates are
>>>> February 2015. Don't know what you're looking at since nowhere does
>>>> it say April anywhere in the article.
>>>>
>>>> Gotta love mass food production This recall totals about 161,511
>>>> pounds (about half a million dollars) of fake, adulterated "cheese".
>>>>
>>> It's "cheese food". Whatever the hell that means.
>>
>> The slices aren't cheese food, they're "cheese product" a term coined
>> by the industry after the FDA notified them that....
>
> You need to chill out, Moe. Most of us know fake cheese without
> having to have read the Cheese Riot Act of 20#&*^
>

Sorry. My whole life I've dumped TMI on people. I have an "anything
worth doing is worth overdoing" perspective, and I actually enjoy
learning more. Problem is, I then annoy the hell out of the people
around me by having to tell them _all_ about it.

At least I offer them good food to go with the boring stuff.