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Julie Bove[_2_] 22-07-2014 02:46 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
There is a somewhat new and spiffy looking shopping center in Lynnwood.

http://www.lynnwoodcrossroads.com/

They have Mod Pizza which I think is a local chain. Five Guys. Qdoba.
Teriyaki place. I think we have one of those on every corner. Yogurtland
and now we are getting a HopJacks. Seems like a local chain. Mostly
burgers, sandwiches, salads, fish tacos, the usual kind of chain place fare.
Also a bar.

*sigh*

I really wish we would get a nice good restaurant here. But no. Another
chain place. And the same sort of food that we can get anywhere.

Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area? Seems there are
very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And all
of the food seems the same from one place to the next.


sf[_9_] 23-07-2014 04:42 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:46:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area?


No, but I haven't moved to other nearby areas because of the generic
"chain restaurant in a mall" concept.

> Seems there are
> very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And all
> of the food seems the same from one place to the next.


We ate in a historic downtown area in the Sierra foothills today. I
ordered a burger & fries ($5 lunch special). The fries were
fantastic, obviously cut on the premises and cooked just the way I
asked: crispy. I do not like fries that have been "altered" but these
came with a seasoning other than plain salt... OMG, so freeking good!
No idea what the seasoning mix was (our waitress is his wife, but she
says he won't tell her) but part of it was powdered chile (no heat).
OTOH, although the burger was cooked the way I wanted - but I'd bet
money it was a prefab, frozen burger before it went onto the grill.
What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Julie Bove[_2_] 23-07-2014 05:53 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:46:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area?

>
> No, but I haven't moved to other nearby areas because of the generic
> "chain restaurant in a mall" concept.


Sadly that seems to be what is taking over this area. Reminds me of places
we saw on cross country moves. Pull off of the freeway at night and the sky
was all lit up with the neon signs of medicore motels and chain restaurants.
Sad.
>
>> Seems there are
>> very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And
>> all
>> of the food seems the same from one place to the next.

>
> We ate in a historic downtown area in the Sierra foothills today. I
> ordered a burger & fries ($5 lunch special). The fries were
> fantastic, obviously cut on the premises and cooked just the way I
> asked: crispy. I do not like fries that have been "altered" but these
> came with a seasoning other than plain salt... OMG, so freeking good!
> No idea what the seasoning mix was (our waitress is his wife, but she
> says he won't tell her) but part of it was powdered chile (no heat).
> OTOH, although the burger was cooked the way I wanted - but I'd bet
> money it was a prefab, frozen burger before it went onto the grill.
> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!


Perhaps if I ventured out a little further, I'd find better but I really
have no need to go anywhere. I should just be thankful that we do have some
good Mexican places.


graham[_4_] 23-07-2014 03:38 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 22/07/2014 9:42 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:46:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area?

>
> No, but I haven't moved to other nearby areas because of the generic
> "chain restaurant in a mall" concept.
>
>> Seems there are
>> very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And all
>> of the food seems the same from one place to the next.

>
> We ate in a historic downtown area in the Sierra foothills today. I
> ordered a burger & fries ($5 lunch special). The fries were
> fantastic, obviously cut on the premises and cooked just the way I
> asked: crispy. I do not like fries that have been "altered" but these
> came with a seasoning other than plain salt... OMG, so freeking good!
> No idea what the seasoning mix was (our waitress is his wife, but she
> says he won't tell her) but part of it was powdered chile (no heat).
> OTOH, although the burger was cooked the way I wanted - but I'd bet
> money it was a prefab, frozen burger before it went onto the grill.
> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>

Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
bun enough?
Graham

Gary 23-07-2014 04:57 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
graham wrote:
>
> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
> bun enough?


Nope.

G. ;-D

Dave Smith[_1_] 23-07-2014 05:29 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>

> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
> bun enough?



It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
go with it.


sf[_9_] 23-07-2014 05:34 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:29:57 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
> >>What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
> >>

> > Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
> > bun enough?

>
>
> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
> go with it.


Burgers and fries go together even better than fries and gravy.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

DreadfulBitch 23-07-2014 07:15 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>

>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>> bun enough?

>
>
> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
> go with it.
>

You obviously never had a good burger and fries.

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

graham[_4_] 23-07-2014 07:30 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 23/07/2014 12:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>
>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>> bun enough?

>>
>>
>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
>> go with it.
>>

> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>

That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
pickles with the fries.
Graham

Janet Wilder[_4_] 23-07-2014 08:12 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 11:34 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:29:57 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>
>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>> bun enough?

>>
>>
>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
>> go with it.

>
> Burgers and fries go together even better than fries and gravy.
>

Are you Canadian? :-)

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

Dave Smith[_1_] 23-07-2014 08:31 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 2014-07-23 2:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>
>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>> bun enough?

>>
>>
>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
>> go with it.
>>

> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>



I have had good burgers and fries on several occasions. I don't live on
them. I am willing to bet that the people who live on them are not
getting the good ones. They are more likely to be fast food burgers and
fries.



dsi1[_17_] 23-07-2014 09:17 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:38:53 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 22/07/2014 9:42 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:46:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"

>
> > > wrote:

>
> >

>
> >> Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area?

>
> >

>
> > No, but I haven't moved to other nearby areas because of the generic

>
> > "chain restaurant in a mall" concept.

>
> >

>
> >> Seems there are

>
> >> very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And all

>
> >> of the food seems the same from one place to the next.

>
> >

>
> > We ate in a historic downtown area in the Sierra foothills today. I

>
> > ordered a burger & fries ($5 lunch special). The fries were

>
> > fantastic, obviously cut on the premises and cooked just the way I

>
> > asked: crispy. I do not like fries that have been "altered" but these

>
> > came with a seasoning other than plain salt... OMG, so freeking good!

>
> > No idea what the seasoning mix was (our waitress is his wife, but she

>
> > says he won't tell her) but part of it was powdered chile (no heat).

>
> > OTOH, although the burger was cooked the way I wanted - but I'd bet

>
> > money it was a prefab, frozen burger before it went onto the grill.

>
> > What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!

>
> >

>
> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>
> bun enough?
>
> Graham


It's traditional to serve fries with burgers in the US. We don't typically serve fries with hot dogs but chips go well with dogs. This would not be English chips but American potato chips. In Hawaii, we like to serve spaghetti with garlic bread. Sometimes we'll add a side of macaroni salad. Don't ask me why cause the answer is "we just do."

Bryan-TGWWW 23-07-2014 09:28 PM

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On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:30:08 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> On 23/07/2014 12:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>
> > On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> >> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:

>
> >>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!

>
> >>>>

>
> >>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread

>
> >>> bun enough?

>
> >>

>
> >>

>
> >> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on

>
> >> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to

>
> >> go with it.

>
> >>

>
> > You obviously never had a good burger and fries.

>
> >

>
> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
>
> pickles with the fries.
>

I have ordered a burger with no bun and extra-extra-extra pickles, and
fries with it. No cheese on the burger though if it costs extra. I see
buns as worthless carbs, whereas fries are yummy carbs.
>
> Graham


--Bryan

Julie Bove[_2_] 23-07-2014 10:48 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 

"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:30:08 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
>> On 23/07/2014 12:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>
>> > On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> >> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:

>>
>> >>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!

>>
>> >>>>

>>
>> >>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the
>> >>> bread

>>
>> >>> bun enough?

>>
>> >>

>>
>> >>

>>
>> >> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on

>>
>> >> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food
>> >> to

>>
>> >> go with it.

>>
>> >>

>>
>> > You obviously never had a good burger and fries.

>>
>> >

>>
>> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
>>
>> pickles with the fries.
>>

> I have ordered a burger with no bun and extra-extra-extra pickles, and
> fries with it. No cheese on the burger though if it costs extra. I see
> buns as worthless carbs, whereas fries are yummy carbs.


I'm with you!


Ema Nymton 23-07-2014 10:50 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 3:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> It's traditional to serve fries with burgers in the US. We don't
> typically serve fries with hot dogs but chips go well with dogs. This
> would not be English chips but American potato chips. In Hawaii, we
> like to serve spaghetti with garlic bread. Sometimes we'll add a side
> of macaroni salad. Don't ask me why cause the answer is "we just
> do."


Hot dogs and chili dogs are often served with Frito's in the South. I
went to Skyline Chili, while traveling, and they had zero Frito's. I was
surprised.

Becca



bigwheel 23-07-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julie Bove[_2_] (Post 1952003)
There is a somewhat new and spiffy looking shopping center in Lynnwood.

Lynnwood Crossroads

They have Mod Pizza which I think is a local chain. Five Guys. Qdoba.
Teriyaki place. I think we have one of those on every corner. Yogurtland
and now we are getting a HopJacks. Seems like a local chain. Mostly
burgers, sandwiches, salads, fish tacos, the usual kind of chain place fare.
Also a bar.

*sigh*

I really wish we would get a nice good restaurant here. But no. Another
chain place. And the same sort of food that we can get anywhere.

Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area? Seems there are
very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And all
of the food seems the same from one place to the next.

There are a bunch of burger joints around here but none of them worth writing home about. We have hit several which are using the old trick of fryng/grilling up patties and floating them in hot water till somebody is dumb enough to order one. Has zero flavor and person can smell em from three feet off. Five guys is not bad..or its wicked step sister called Mooyahs. Day in and day out Whataburger is best for that. Lot of Mom n Pop diners springing up but have yet to hit one which was fit to eat other than maybe at breakfast and we eat that meal at home. Doubt they make very good sausage gravy.

brooklyn1 23-07-2014 11:53 PM

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:31:35 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-07-23 2:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>>
>>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>>> bun enough?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
>>> go with it.
>>>

>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.

>
>I have had good burgers and fries on several occasions.


There are no good burgers in any restaurant, they're all
mystery meat. The last time I ate a burger out Golden Arches burgers
were 19¢. The ground meat at stupidmarkets, butcher shops, anywhere
is all mytery meat. None of yoose TIADers have ever eaten a good
burger.


dsi1[_15_] 24-07-2014 01:23 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 11:50 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 7/23/2014 3:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> It's traditional to serve fries with burgers in the US. We don't
>> typically serve fries with hot dogs but chips go well with dogs. This
>> would not be English chips but American potato chips. In Hawaii, we
>> like to serve spaghetti with garlic bread. Sometimes we'll add a side
>> of macaroni salad. Don't ask me why cause the answer is "we just
>> do."

>
> Hot dogs and chili dogs are often served with Frito's in the South. I
> went to Skyline Chili, while traveling, and they had zero Frito's. I was
> surprised.
>
> Becca
>
>


Chili and Frito's go together greatly. Over here they're almost always
served over rice. I've served chili over tortilla chips. It's good but
kind of salty.

I once saw a couple all dressed up like Roy Rogers and Dale Evans in a
local restaurant. Roy ordered a bowl of chili and blew his mind out when
he got his bowl. He couldn't comprehend a chili with beans served over
rice. It was not a pretty sight. He should have just stuck with a fruit
salad served in a hollowed out pineapple. That was my favorite dish when
me and the wife were a'courtin'. As I recall, it was called a "pineapple
boat." Oh yeah.

DreadfulBitch 24-07-2014 02:38 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:

>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>>

> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
> pickles with the fries.


A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't stand
liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

Doris Night 24-07-2014 03:48 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
>'Julie Bove[_2_ Wrote:
>> ;1952003']There is a somewhat new and spiffy looking shopping center in
>> Lynnwood.
>>
>> 'Lynnwood Crossroads' (http://www.lynnwoodcrossroads.com/)
>>
>> They have Mod Pizza which I think is a local chain. Five Guys. Qdoba.
>> Teriyaki place. I think we have one of those on every corner.
>> Yogurtland
>> and now we are getting a HopJacks. Seems like a local chain. Mostly
>> burgers, sandwiches, salads, fish tacos, the usual kind of chain place
>> fare.
>> Also a bar.
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> I really wish we would get a nice good restaurant here. But no.
>> Another
>> chain place. And the same sort of food that we can get anywhere.
>>
>> Is this sort of place becoming more common in your area? Seems there
>> are
>> very few places here any more where they do cooking from scratch. And
>> all
>> of the food seems the same from one place to the next.


Where I live, the only chain/fast food restaurants are a McDonalds,
Tim Hortons, KFC, and Subway. Everything else is locally owned and
operated, and the quality is generally very good.

Doris

Julie Bove[_2_] 24-07-2014 04:56 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2014 3:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> It's traditional to serve fries with burgers in the US. We don't
>> typically serve fries with hot dogs but chips go well with dogs. This
>> would not be English chips but American potato chips. In Hawaii, we
>> like to serve spaghetti with garlic bread. Sometimes we'll add a side
>> of macaroni salad. Don't ask me why cause the answer is "we just
>> do."

>
> Hot dogs and chili dogs are often served with Frito's in the South. I went
> to Skyline Chili, while traveling, and they had zero Frito's. I was
> surprised.


Interesting! Hot dogs aren't found on too many menus in this area and when
they are, they are usually on the kid's menu.

There is a very overpriced virtual golf place/bar in Lynnwood that does have
hot dogs on the menu. With a lot of variations. I think they also have
nachos and a few kinds of sandwiches. Also prepackaged pastries and cookies
and I think chips.

During one of our cross country moves, we hit so many McDonalds that I
didn't set foot in one for years after. But it was interesting to see what
they sold in different parts of the country. I do remember seeing hot dogs
on one menu and also soup. Can't remember if the soup was at that same
place or not.


Julie Bove[_2_] 24-07-2014 04:59 AM

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2014 11:50 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>> On 7/23/2014 3:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> It's traditional to serve fries with burgers in the US. We don't
>>> typically serve fries with hot dogs but chips go well with dogs. This
>>> would not be English chips but American potato chips. In Hawaii, we
>>> like to serve spaghetti with garlic bread. Sometimes we'll add a side
>>> of macaroni salad. Don't ask me why cause the answer is "we just
>>> do."

>>
>> Hot dogs and chili dogs are often served with Frito's in the South. I
>> went to Skyline Chili, while traveling, and they had zero Frito's. I was
>> surprised.
>>
>> Becca
>>
>>

>
> Chili and Frito's go together greatly. Over here they're almost always
> served over rice. I've served chili over tortilla chips. It's good but
> kind of salty.
>
> I once saw a couple all dressed up like Roy Rogers and Dale Evans in a
> local restaurant. Roy ordered a bowl of chili and blew his mind out when
> he got his bowl. He couldn't comprehend a chili with beans served over
> rice. It was not a pretty sight. He should have just stuck with a fruit
> salad served in a hollowed out pineapple. That was my favorite dish when
> me and the wife were a'courtin'. As I recall, it was called a "pineapple
> boat." Oh yeah.


I didn't grow up eating chili with rice. We often had cornbread with bean
dishes or perhaps Fritos or popcorn. But when I found a 3 bean chili recipe
in a magazine that I liked, it was served over rice. I often made that dish
when my husband was out to sea. A pot of rice and a pot of chili would last
me the week. That was before I had to concern myself with carbs. These
days when I make chili, the chili is the meal. I might have a couple of
tortilla chips or crackers on the side but no more.


Julie Bove[_2_] 24-07-2014 05:06 AM

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"bigwheel" > wrote in message
...
> There are a bunch of burger joints around here but none of them worth
> writing home about. We have hit several which are using the old trick of
> fryng/grilling up patties and floating them in hot water till somebody
> is dumb enough to order one. Has zero flavor and person can smell em
> from three feet off. Five guys is not bad..or its wicked step sister
> called Mooyahs. Day in and day out Whataburger is best for that. Lot of
> Mom n Pop diners springing up but have yet to hit one which was fit to
> eat other than maybe at breakfast and we eat that meal at home. Doubt
> they make very good sausage gravy.


The big favorite around here is Dick's Drive In. I did eat there once and
another time I got a drink from them. I don't remember anything outstanding
about the burger or fries but it was many years ago. I hear tell lately
that everything they sell is greasy. And my beef with them now is that you
must take them as is. No leave off this or that. They won't do it.

Burger Master is close to us but we just never think to go there. It's a
true old fashioned drive in with car hops. Dicks is also a drive in but no
car hops. My favorite food there was the Turkey Master. Turkey, bacon,
some kind of cheese (Swiss?), tomatoes, maybe onion. Been awhile since I
had one. Sourdough bread. This sandwich is so large and filling that there
is no way I could eat a whole one. Angela and I even had trouble finishing
it when we split one. Worked better to have my mom along and we'd split one
three ways, adding in salad and some fries. They have good fries and the
salads are really good too. The burgers are good. I'm not just a big
burger person. I also hear tell that the shakes and pies are wonderful too.

I don't understand why restaurants can't make good sausage gravy. It's dead
easy once you know how. I only had one flop and that was because I didn't
know how to do it. I made a plain cream gravy and then tried to add cooked
sausage to it. Fail! My mom then showed me how to make it which I found
odd as I don't remember her ever making it when I was growing up. She did
make hamburger gravy and that method is the same. Only thing I won't do
that she did was add seasoning salt. I don't use that kind of stuff.



Julie Bove[_2_] 24-07-2014 05:08 AM

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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:31:35 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2014-07-23 2:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>> On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>>>> bun enough?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>>>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food
>>>> to
>>>> go with it.
>>>>
>>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.

>>
>>I have had good burgers and fries on several occasions.

>
> There are no good burgers in any restaurant, they're all
> mystery meat. The last time I ate a burger out Golden Arches burgers
> were 19¢. The ground meat at stupidmarkets, butcher shops, anywhere
> is all mytery meat. None of yoose TIADers have ever eaten a good
> burger.


In this area, many places do grass fed or Angus beef. They'll tell you the
brand. Painted Hills is one good brand. You can also get chopped filet
mignon sliders or Wagyu beef.


Julie Bove[_2_] 24-07-2014 05:12 AM

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"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:
>
>>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>>>

>> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
>> pickles with the fries.

>
> A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
> other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't stand
> liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.


I rarely ever eat the buns any more. I am not a big bread person although I
do like certain, specific kinds. Like the honey whole wheat that I eat
toasted for breakfast. Odd because I don't even like honey. They put just
enough in to give it a slight sweetness but it doesn't taste of honey. It's
just sweet enough that I don't like it at all for sandwiches. Except for
grilled/toasted cheese.

But a burger bun? They're all pretty much the same except that now the
trend here is to use Brioche, Kaiser rolls or Pretzel buns. I guess those
are different. But...

Given that I have to watch my carbs, I'd much rather eat fries than a bun.


Julie Bove[_2_] 24-07-2014 05:39 AM

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"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...

>
> Where I live, the only chain/fast food restaurants are a McDonalds,
> Tim Hortons, KFC, and Subway. Everything else is locally owned and
> operated, and the quality is generally very good.
>
> Doris


You're lucky. I am surrounded by Denny's, Applebees, Outback, IHop,
Bonefish, Qboba, Chipotle, Taco Del Mar, Toshis and many other Teriyaki and
Thai places, Panda (something or other, purporting to be Chinese), Ezels
chicken, Bob's Burger and Brew, Blazing Onion, Olive Garden, Red Robin, Red
Lobster, Bucca De Beppo, Old Spaghetti Factory, Claim Jumper, Macaroni
Grill, Azteca, Taco Time, PF Changs, Subway, Jersey Mikes, Quiznos, McD's.
Wendy's, Dairy Queen and of course Starbucks. I am sure that I have missed
all sorts of places. The KFC is not really near us nor is the BK but there
are some here.

We do have two small local chains that is good and cooks from scratch but
they rarely make changes to the menu and it gets boring.

One place I wish we did have (although perhaps if we did have one, I'd think
otherwise) is Ruby Tuesday. I have heard that they have a good salad bar.

We do have some Italian places that are not chains but... They always seem
to feature the same old same old kind of stuff. Stuff that I can easily
make at home and for cheap. And having eaten really good and authentic
Italian fare in PA has made me be somewhat of a food snob when it comes to
Italian fare.


Cheri[_3_] 24-07-2014 06:11 AM

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"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:
>
>>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>>>

>> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
>> pickles with the fries.

>
> A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
> other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't stand
> liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.
>
> --
> DreadfulBitch


Yes, a very simple solution. Eat what you like and don't worry about what
others are eating at all.

Cheri


sf[_9_] 24-07-2014 03:07 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:12:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
> I rarely ever eat the buns any more.

<snip>
>
> But a burger bun? They're all pretty much the same except that now the
> trend here is to use Brioche, Kaiser rolls or Pretzel buns. I guess those
> are different. But...


Never had a pretzel bun or roll, I like pretzel bagels. I like them a
lot!
>
> Given that I have to watch my carbs, I'd much rather eat fries than a bun.


In N Out will substitute lettuce for a bun. It's pretty tasty too,
probably the only way I'll eat head lettuce - but I forgot all about
that option when I was in there the other day. :(

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf[_9_] 24-07-2014 03:10 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:11:13 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:
> >
> >>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
> >>>
> >> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
> >> pickles with the fries.

> >
> > A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
> > other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't stand
> > liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.
> >
> > --
> > DreadfulBitch

>
> Yes, a very simple solution. Eat what you like and don't worry about what
> others are eating at all.
>

Or continually yammer about how much you don't like it. I'm so glad
the dirt chunks person isn't posting about that here anymore and the I
hate cilantro people have taken their show on the road too. Now all
we have to listen to is someone who hates fruit and can't digest much
of anything else go on and on about how much she dislikes this or that
food.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf[_9_] 24-07-2014 03:30 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:06:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I don't understand why restaurants can't make good sausage gravy.


The cafeteria lady (if that's what they are called) in the breakfast
room of a motel we stayed at made fantastic sausage gravy. So good
that I commented hers wasn't like the wall paper paste that is
normally served in motels and even restaurants. She told me it comes
in a can and workers need to read the instructions, but they don't.
She said the instructions say to add milk, but restaurant/cafeteria
workers just dump the contents into a pot and heat it up. Huge
difference when milk is added as per instructions! It actually tastes
home made.

> It's dead easy once you know how.


Agree. I normally use breakfast sausage in a tube, but we had chicken
Italian sausage the other day and it ended up making good sausage
gravy. Which reminds me, I need to buy more so I can make lasagna.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Cheri[_3_] 24-07-2014 05:51 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:12:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>> I rarely ever eat the buns any more.

> <snip>
>>
>> But a burger bun? They're all pretty much the same except that now the
>> trend here is to use Brioche, Kaiser rolls or Pretzel buns. I guess
>> those
>> are different. But...

>
> Never had a pretzel bun or roll, I like pretzel bagels. I like them a
> lot!
>>
>> Given that I have to watch my carbs, I'd much rather eat fries than a
>> bun.

>
> In N Out will substitute lettuce for a bun. It's pretty tasty too,
> probably the only way I'll eat head lettuce - but I forgot all about
> that option when I was in there the other day. :(


Yep, you just order protein style, and you can add to it.

Cheri


Cheri[_3_] 24-07-2014 05:52 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:11:13 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:
>> >
>> >>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>> >>>
>> >> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese
>> >> and
>> >> pickles with the fries.
>> >
>> > A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
>> > other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't
>> > stand
>> > liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.
>> >
>> > --
>> > DreadfulBitch

>>
>> Yes, a very simple solution. Eat what you like and don't worry about what
>> others are eating at all.
>>

> Or continually yammer about how much you don't like it. I'm so glad
> the dirt chunks person isn't posting about that here anymore and the I
> hate cilantro people have taken their show on the road too. Now all
> we have to listen to is someone who hates fruit and can't digest much
> of anything else go on and on about how much she dislikes this or that
> food.


Nothing wrong with saying it once, we all do that, but no reason to answer
every post with the same comments.

Cheri


dsi1[_15_] 24-07-2014 11:26 PM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 5:59 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> I didn't grow up eating chili with rice. We often had cornbread with
> bean dishes or perhaps Fritos or popcorn. But when I found a 3 bean
> chili recipe in a magazine that I liked, it was served over rice. I
> often made that dish when my husband was out to sea. A pot of rice and
> a pot of chili would last me the week. That was before I had to concern
> myself with carbs. These days when I make chili, the chili is the
> meal. I might have a couple of tortilla chips or crackers on the side
> but no more.


My guess is most people didn't grow up eating chili with rice, unless
they were from Hawaii. You'd probably have a hard time finding chili
with rice on the mainland.

Last night we ate at a place called "The Fat Greek" the last part of the
signage fell of so some people might have thought the joint was called
"The Fat. " My wife had a baklava at the end of the meal. My wife
thought it had falafel in it but it was powdered walnuts and cumin. I
used to assemble a mean baklava but this was a new one for me. It's an
interesting variation.

jmcquown[_2_] 25-07-2014 12:10 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
> bun enough?
> Graham


Not *everyone* eats burgers and fries every day or even every month. I
certainly don't. I also don't worry my head off about carbs.

There was a comment on the site below. "It's meat & potatoes."

http://www.quora.com/Hamburgers/Why-...erved-together

Yes, it's meat & potatoes. Beef & potatoes is a very traditional dinner
in the US. Served with, you guessed it, dinner rolls. (There are
vegetable sides, which in the case of a burger would be burger toppings
and/or side salad.) That's one idea.

Or, fries could be simply a cheap and convenient money maker for fast
food and other chain restaurants. In actuality, they always have been.
People who don't know that haven't gone out to eat much. YMMV.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 25-07-2014 12:28 AM

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On 7/23/2014 2:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>
>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>> bun enough?

>>
>>
>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
>> go with it.
>>

> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>

I hear that! There's nothing like a good burger and fries. These days
I don't know anyone in real life who buys fast food burgers and fries on
a regular basis.

I had a really nice cheeseburger at the Club a couple of weeks ago, with
nicely cooked shoestring fries. Neither the burger nor the fries were
greasy or too salty. Some restaurants can do some things well. :)

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 25-07-2014 12:34 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 
On 7/23/2014 9:38 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:
>
>>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>>>

>> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
>> pickles with the fries.

>
> A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
> other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't stand
> liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.
>

It works for me, too. As I said in another reply, I don't eat burgers
and fries every day. I don't know anyone who does.

I certainly dislike the idea of a beef patty smothered in cheese and
pickles. Ugh.

Jill

Cheri[_3_] 25-07-2014 12:44 AM

Are burger places becoming more common?
 

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/23/2014 9:38 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 7/23/2014 1:30 PM, graham wrote:
>>
>>>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>>>>
>>> That wasn't the point. One could have the patty, smothered in cheese and
>>> pickles with the fries.

>>
>> A good burger and fries is a combo that just works, for me and a lot of
>> other people. Don't like the combo? Fine, don't eat it. I can't stand
>> liver (prepared in any fashion but chopped) so I don't eat it. Simple.
>>

> It works for me, too. As I said in another reply, I don't eat burgers and
> fries every day. I don't know anyone who does.
>
> I certainly dislike the idea of a beef patty smothered in cheese and
> pickles. Ugh.
>
> Jill


I like the idea and have it often. I make a beef patty, melt some cheese on
it, add some dill pickle relish and I'm good to go.

Cheri


jmcquown[_2_] 25-07-2014 12:46 AM

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On 7/23/2014 3:31 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-07-23 2:15 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 7/23/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2014-07-23 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>> What a stark contrast between the burger and fries!
>>>>>
>>>> Why are burgers served with fries? Isn't the carbohydrate of the bread
>>>> bun enough?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's likely because the people who like high fat high salt burgers on
>>> white buns with empty calories need some high carb, salty greasy food to
>>> go with it.
>>>

>> You obviously never had a good burger and fries.
>>

>
> I have had good burgers and fries on several occasions. I don't live on
> them. I am willing to bet that the people who live on them are not
> getting the good ones. They are more likely to be fast food burgers and
> fries.
>
>

I don't live on them, either. But I'd agree with Dreadful Bitch's and
your assessment: the people who don't like them have never tasted a good
burger and fries. Good burgers are not greasy. I'm not saying they
don't contain fat - of course they do. But when properly prepared
they're not dripping grease when you eat them.

Good french fries aren't greasy, either. Or overly salted. If someone
eats fast food and calls that a burger and fries, they really need to
venture out of that restaurant chain-zone.

Jill

bigwheel 25-07-2014 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sf[_9_] (Post 1952741)
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:06:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

I don't understand why restaurants can't make good sausage gravy.


The cafeteria lady (if that's what they are called) in the breakfast
room of a motel we stayed at made fantastic sausage gravy. So good
that I commented hers wasn't like the wall paper paste that is
normally served in motels and even restaurants. She told me it comes
in a can and workers need to read the instructions, but they don't.
She said the instructions say to add milk, but restaurant/cafeteria
workers just dump the contents into a pot and heat it up. Huge
difference when milk is added as per instructions! It actually tastes
home made.

It's dead easy once you know how.


Agree. I normally use breakfast sausage in a tube, but we had chicken
Italian sausage the other day and it ended up making good sausage
gravy. Which reminds me, I need to buy more so I can make lasagna.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

All it takes to make good sausage gravy is to follow Jimmy Deans SOS recipe and used canned Pet Milk mixed 50/50 with water. Its sorta like falling off a log.
Sausage Or Beef S. O. S. Stuff On A Shingle) Recipe - Food.com

sf[_9_] 25-07-2014 01:23 AM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:46:04 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> If someone
> eats fast food and calls that a burger and fries, they really need to
> venture out of that restaurant chain-zone.


LOL! Just the fact that fast food joints can get away with calling
themselves restaurants is appalling.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.


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