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On 5/3/2014 11:23 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/1/2014 6:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> In the US there was a food charity known as Angel Food Ministries. You
>> order and buy boxes of food for $30. Frozen, yes. But that bought a
>> box of food to feed a family of four including steaks, ground beef,
>> chicken breasts, frozen vegetables, shelf stable milk. A carton of eggs
>> with every box. The food was all donated by local food vendors. Great
>> idea at the time. Until the "clergy" family running the outfit started
>> paying themselves 6 figure salaries. I don't trust most charities.

>
> Is that why they stopped Angel Food ministries? I never looked into
> why, but it was a handy way to buy my sister a box of groceries at a
> good price because there was a church just blocks from me that sold the
> food. And she's had money troubles for years due to a deadbeat baby
> daddy so I do what I can for them.
>

Yes, that's what happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Food_Ministries

In part:

"An Atlanta reporter stated 2005 compensation of $69,598 for founder,
pastor, and CEO Joe Wingo; $69,598 for pastor and co-founder Linda
Wingo; $93,615 for son Andrew Wingo; and son Wesley Wingo, Director of
Pastoral Relations, $89,944. 2006 compensation for Angel Food Ministries
leadership took a big leap with Joe making $588,529. Linda was paid
$544,043, son Andrew made $529,014, and Wesley $454,673."

It's a shame. They got greedy, which seems to happen way too often with
charities. Naturally there was tax fraud and the IRS got involbed
because this was (allegedly) a non-profit organization.

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On 5/3/2014 11:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/1/2014 4:31 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>

>> It's a particular thorn in my side, especially these days. Lately I'm
>> getting calls from Unknown Caller with the phone number displayed as
>> 000-000-0000. Can't exactly put that in the complaint for on the Do Not
>> Call Registry. They're getting trickier all the time. It's no wonder I
>> don't answer the phone most of the time.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Enter it anyway. As long as you have the time of the call it can still
> be investigated.
>
>

Thanks, Cheryl. I did file a complaint and it was accepted. For some
reason I thought entering 000000000 wouldn't work.

The calls do have a pattern which has me convinced it's an auto-dialer.
If the phone rings between 10:30 and 11:30 AM, chances are it's
whatever this telemarketing company is. When the machine picks up after
4 rings, *click*. It's still annoying as hell.

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On 5/3/2014 10:47 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/2/2014 12:42 AM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:53:53 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Caller ID used to ber great, but now we get a lot of calls from cell
>>> phones that show the number and "wireless caller". If I know the
>>> number, I pick it up. I do ignore some of the "unknown". If important,
>>> they will leave a message.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I see just a state name, it is a robo call, or Card Services I know
>>> is junk and ignore.
>>>
>>>

>> This is why I bought a Pro Caller Block device; it looks quite similar
>> to the old caller id boxes that first were on the market when Caller
>> Id became available. The name and number are displayed on this box
>> and I can choose to block them from further calls or answer the
>> phone. Now peace and quiet reign at my house. If the phone rings
>> once I can check the display and see it is a number I have previously
>> blocked but the dumb-asses keep trying.
>>

> Verizon has a feature where you can go to their web site and see all
> phone numbers called in and choose which to block right from the web
> site. Works perfectly.
>

for cell phones or land lines?

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On Sat, 03 May 2014 23:13:38 -0400, Cheryl >
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> On 5/1/2014 1:13 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> > I suppose this is OT but they seem to call when I'm cooking or eating
> > and I wonder if telephone solicitors etc. realize that most people don't
> > have old-fashioned phones without displays. As far as I can tell, if a
> > caller has "Unknown name", "Caller not available", shows the calling
> > phone number, etc., they are generally people I don't want to talk to. I
> > have almost made the decision to ignore any of those unknowns. I don't
> > think I'll lose much.
> >
> >

> Just ignore them. I haven't answered an unknown caller in years. I also
> don't answer if i don't recognize the number. If I know them, they can
> leave a message and i'll call back.


It's amazing how many people feel compelled to answer a phone just
because it's ringing.


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On 2014-05-04 10:27 AM, sf wrote:

>> Just ignore them. I haven't answered an unknown caller in years. I also
>> don't answer if i don't recognize the number. If I know them, they can
>> leave a message and i'll call back.

>
> It's amazing how many people feel compelled to answer a phone just
> because it's ringing.
>


In this day and age there are people are compelled to have a phone to
their ear all the time. They walk around in public talking on their
phones. They drive with one hand while the other holds a phone to their
ear... and the conversation holds the attention that should be devoted
to driving. I imagine it would be difficult for them to resist answering.
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On 5/4/2014 10:27 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 23:13:38 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/1/2014 1:13 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> I suppose this is OT but they seem to call when I'm cooking or eating
>>>

>> Just ignore them. I haven't answered an unknown caller in years. I also
>> don't answer if i don't recognize the number. If I know them, they can
>> leave a message and i'll call back.

>
> It's amazing how many people feel compelled to answer a phone just
> because it's ringing.
>

I simply don't understand it. If you call me and I don't answer, talk
to my machine (assuming I'm home, not busy and I know you) and I'll
probably pick up. I don't dash to the phone to check the caller ID
every time it rings.

I'm curious as to why telemarketing is still such a prevalent thing. I
don't know anyone who ever bought anything simply because someone called
them on the phone. I suppose we could go back to the days when sales
people came to the door instead. LOL

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> It's amazing how many people feel compelled to answer a phone just
> because it's ringing.


Never me - either land line or cell phone. If you aren't on my friend
list, you leave a message or you'll never hear back from me. My phones
are for my convenience, not someone elses.

G.


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>I'm curious as to why telemarketing is still such a prevalent thing. I
>don't know anyone who ever bought anything simply because someone called
>them on the phone. I suppose we could go back to the days when sales
>people came to the door instead. LOL
>
>Jill


They'd stop if there was no payday. Must be a lot of lonely people
that will talk to anyone. Or just a lot of gullible people.

I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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> I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
> solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.


I only donate to my local rescue squad. They don't charge for their
services. They get some city money but mostly depend on donations.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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>They'd stop if there was no payday. Must be a lot of lonely people
>that will talk to anyone. Or just a lot of gullible people.
>
>I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
>solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.


I can't remember the last time I received a phone call from someone
selling something or looking for a donation... has to be more than ten
years. When I first moved here I was receiving calls from a few
collection agencies, looking for the person who had my new phone
number... put them into the Do not call registry and within a month it
stopped. I receive very few phone calls (not one yet today). I don't
get many social calls until after dinner time nor do I make many
social calls until evening. Whenever my phone rings I answer it,
during business hours it's probably important but usually brief. If
it's a social call and I'm busy, like feeding the cats, I tell the
person I'll call back in a few minutes. Social calls don't annoy me,
I'm retired so I have plenty of time to chat, especially during
winter, and I make time, I'd much rather human contact than watching
TV or reading Newsgroups... when I'm in the ground the phone won't
ring. I believe that those who are ascared to pick up their phone are
anti-social and/or live so miserable an existance they wish they were
dead.
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> I believe that those who are ascared to pick up their phone are
> anti-social and/or live so miserable an existance they wish they were
> dead.


And you used to claim that they were hiding from creditors. Still
wrong, Sheldon. Many of us just don't care much for "call in" phone
calls. We all have different uses for our phones. If I pay for it, I'm
going to use it the way I choose to. :-D

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On 5/4/2014 7:30 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 5/3/2014 10:47 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 5/2/2014 12:42 AM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:53:53 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Caller ID used to ber great, but now we get a lot of calls from cell
>>>> phones that show the number and "wireless caller". If I know the
>>>> number, I pick it up. I do ignore some of the "unknown". If
>>>> important,
>>>> they will leave a message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I see just a state name, it is a robo call, or Card Services I know
>>>> is junk and ignore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This is why I bought a Pro Caller Block device; it looks quite similar
>>> to the old caller id boxes that first were on the market when Caller
>>> Id became available. The name and number are displayed on this box
>>> and I can choose to block them from further calls or answer the
>>> phone. Now peace and quiet reign at my house. If the phone rings
>>> once I can check the display and see it is a number I have previously
>>> blocked but the dumb-asses keep trying.
>>>

>> Verizon has a feature where you can go to their web site and see all
>> phone numbers called in and choose which to block right from the web
>> site. Works perfectly.
>>

> for cell phones or land lines?
>


Land line. On your cell phone, you can block them right from the phone.
It still registers as though they called, but the phone doesn't ring.


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On 2014-05-04 11:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
> solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.
>



I am fed up with them. Once they get your name and number they don't
let go. They will keep calling and calling, or mailing letters. If you
make a memorial donation in someone's name they keep contacting you. One
of my wife's school friends died out in Victoria a couple years ago and
she sent a memorial donation to the hospice where the friend had spent
her final days. We are still getting beg letters from them monthly.
They seem not to understand the concept of a memorial gift.

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> On 2014-05-04 11:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
>> solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.
>>

>
>
> I am fed up with them. Once they get your name and number they don't let
> go. They will keep calling and calling, or mailing letters. If you make a
> memorial donation in someone's name they keep contacting you. One of my
> wife's school friends died out in Victoria a couple years ago and she sent
> a memorial donation to the hospice where the friend had spent her final
> days. We are still getting beg letters from them monthly. They seem not to
> understand the concept of a memorial gift.


I'm with you there Dave. I made a donation to Cystic Fibrosis and now it's
never ending. I usually donate to charities here in town, and things like
Animal Friends, but I made the mistake of mailing a donation to them.

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> On Sun, 04 May 2014 08:11:57 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2014-05-04 12:21 AM, wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>> Unfortunately AT&T doesn't have this service is why I had to resort
>>> to the Pro Caller Block gizmo. Ignoring the phone ringing 7 or 8
>>> times per day wasn't an option and asking to be removed from their
>>> calling list was like spitting in the wind. Most times they would
>>> not leave a message but continue to call, call, call, call, call,
>>> call.
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>>Then have some fun with them. String them along and see how much fun you
>>can have with them. If you are wasting their time they won't be
>>harassing other people. Perhaps one day they will realize that this
>>calling people at home does not have a good return.

>
> I do that with live callers but, it's not much fun trying to string
> along a recorded message.
> Now, with our provincial election 6 weeks away there'll be lots more
> of them.
>

I got something like this the other day. Daughter got the phone and said
something. I thought she said the call was for Comcast woman. I thought...
I'm a Comcast woman and made a dash for the phone. But what was said was
that it was some Congress woman. When I realized this, I hung up. Daughter
just had a weird look on her face. Said she couldn't figure out why I
rushed to get it. I felt kind of stupid after that.



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> It's amazing how many people feel compelled to answer a phone just
> because it's ringing.
>

I think it is ingrained in me. Perhaps because I have worked in so many
offices over the years. In high school, I ran the switch board and we were
supposed to pick up by the second ring. This wasn't always possible of
course. Odd thing was, we really got few calls to the school and not too
many calling out. I had to handle the calls going out in those days as
well. But invariably when one call came in or was going out, another would
come in or out right after.

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> I simply don't understand it. If you call me and I don't answer, talk to
> my machine (assuming I'm home, not busy and I know you) and I'll probably
> pick up. I don't dash to the phone to check the caller ID every time it
> rings.
>

I generally don't leave messages on people's answering machines. I prefer
to just email them if they are not home. But I will occasionally leave a
message on my friend's phone because she has no computer. I did this the
other day. She has been having car problems and wanted the name of my bro's
mechanic. After calling 3 days in a row and getting no answer, I left the
message.

I pretty much hate getting messages. Often the person is very long winded
until they get to their phone number which they rattle off so quickly that I
can't even write it down, forcing me to listen to it all over again another
2-3 times. And sometimes I can't understand what they are saying and still
can't get their name or phone number right. I would much rather that they
just email me.

> I'm curious as to why telemarketing is still such a prevalent thing. I
> don't know anyone who ever bought anything simply because someone called
> them on the phone. I suppose we could go back to the days when sales
> people came to the door instead. LOL


I have wondered that and also wondered about the spam. Someone once
explained to me how the spammers make their money, but I don't get it. I
will not buy from anyone who calls me, comes to the door or spams me. I
can't imagine anyone else doing this either. And that would include scouts,
even though they no longer come to the door. Once in a while we get kids
selling candy or magazine subscriptions. I won't buy that either.

There are sooo many unscrupulous adults out there using kids for the candy
scheme. I have read about this on the Internet. The poor kids fall victim
to this. I have no idea how these people find the kids. But they give them
tubs of candy, often stale candy or odd brands. They go door to door,
peddling this stuff for $1-3. Amazing how many people will buy this,
thinking they are helping a charity. Only there is no real charity. Or
perhaps they just want to eat cheap candy.

The adults keep the kids going until all of the candy is sold, then take the
money and run. Thankfully I have not seen any recently but there were some
perhaps a year ago.

I don't get too many people now that I put that smart assed sign by my door.
But I did get a carpet shampooer in my garage as I was putting away canned
goods. Made the mistake of leaving the door open. I do love it when those
people come to the front door though as we keep our carpet shampooer right
next to the front door. All I do is hold it up. They leave quickly.

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On 5/4/2014 11:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
> solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.


It burns me that it's perfectly legal for these people to call
like they work for the charity, and all they have to do is
pass on cents on the dollar and it's all legal. The charities
don't care because they're getting something for no work on their
part.

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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>They'd stop if there was no payday. Must be a lot of lonely people
>>that will talk to anyone. Or just a lot of gullible people.
>>
>>I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
>>solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.

>
> I can't remember the last time I received a phone call from someone
> selling something or looking for a donation... has to be more than ten
> years. When I first moved here I was receiving calls from a few
> collection agencies, looking for the person who had my new phone
> number... put them into the Do not call registry and within a month it
> stopped. I receive very few phone calls (not one yet today). I don't
> get many social calls until after dinner time nor do I make many
> social calls until evening. Whenever my phone rings I answer it,
> during business hours it's probably important but usually brief. If
> it's a social call and I'm busy, like feeding the cats, I tell the
> person I'll call back in a few minutes. Social calls don't annoy me,
> I'm retired so I have plenty of time to chat, especially during
> winter, and I make time, I'd much rather human contact than watching
> TV or reading Newsgroups... when I'm in the ground the phone won't
> ring. I believe that those who are ascared to pick up their phone are
> anti-social and/or live so miserable an existance they wish they were
> dead.


I got one from that idiot claiming to be from Microsoft, telling me that my
computer has a virus. This was perhaps 3 weeks ago. I get some kind of
security systems thing or credit card things but they are almost always
pre-recorded. I do hate it when the security people call and ask what kind
of security system we have. I just tell them it is none of their business.

I really hate those Kiosk people though. Daughter got nabbed by a cell
phone one in Costco. Said to her, "Hey! Is that an Iphone 5?" Clearly he
knew that it was. Then he went on to try to sell us some kind of new Iphone
6. When I told him we were locked in to Sprint, he then went on to try to
tell us that they would buy out our plan. I think it was T Mobile. Not
sure. Tried to tell us that his plan was cheaper. It isn't. Unless things
have changed, Sprint is the only place that offers a family plan that is
unlimited everything. We never have to worry if we used too many minutes or
made too many texts.

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On 2014-05-04 6:47 PM, Cheri wrote:

> I'm with you there Dave. I made a donation to Cystic Fibrosis and now
> it's never ending. I usually donate to charities here in town, and
> things like Animal Friends, but I made the mistake of mailing a donation
> to them.


Yep. You made the same mistake that many of us made, sending a cheque
with information or getting a receipt. Now they won't let go.

You have to wonder, with the cost of mailing beg letters, at what point
do they start losing money. We get mail from several organizations with
pens, return address stickers and things like that. Apparently, they
expect you to pay for them. I consider them to be be unsolicited free
gifts.



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On 2014-05-04 6:47 PM, Ross@home wrote:

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>> Then have some fun with them. String them along and see how much fun you
>> can have with them. If you are wasting their time they won't be
>> harassing other people. Perhaps one day they will realize that this
>> calling people at home does not have a good return.

>
> I do that with live callers but, it's not much fun trying to string
> along a recorded message.
> Now, with our provincial election 6 weeks away there'll be lots more
> of them.
>

Lucky me. I am in Tim Hudaks's riding. The last time there was an
election I was getting daily robocalls, sometimes several in a day. I
ended up calling several times a day to his office to tell them to stop.
I told them once was more than enough. To be contacted more than once
and day and to be called repeatedly was harassment.


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On 2014-05-04 7:54 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> It burns me that it's perfectly legal for these people to call
> like they work for the charity, and all they have to do is
> pass on cents on the dollar and it's all legal. The charities
> don't care because they're getting something for no work on their
> part.



It must be working on some people or they would not keep doing it.

The sad part is that charity is a good thing. These guys have turned
charity into a business.


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Nancy Young wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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>> I choose charities carefully too, never would give to a telephone
>> solicitor that is probably getting 90% of your donation.

>
>It burns me that it's perfectly legal for these people to call
>like they work for the charity, and all they have to do is
>pass on cents on the dollar and it's all legal. The charities
>don't care because they're getting something for no work on their
>part.


The only charities I donate to are the local animal shelters, I know
that every penny goes to feeding and caring for those helpless
critters. People can go get a J O B.


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On Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:59:56 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
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> On 2014-05-04 6:47 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>
> > I'm with you there Dave. I made a donation to Cystic Fibrosis and now
> > it's never ending. I made the mistake of mailing a donation
> > to them.

>
>
> Yep. You made the same mistake that many of us made, sending a cheque
> with information or getting a receipt. Now they won't let go.
>
>

If their letters asking for a donation include a postage paid return envelope I use that to return their request _to them_ asking them to remove my name AND address from their mailing list; I X out my name and address with a yellow highlighter. It does wonders to stop these unsolicited mailings.
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On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an hour.


How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
another time.

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On Sun, 04 May 2014 22:55:28 -0400, Doris Night
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> On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an hour.

>
> How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
> post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
> state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
> another time.
>


The post office can be really busy in a city, especially around
Christmas.



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> On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>>Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an hour.

>
> How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
> post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
> state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
> another time.


This post office is always like this, as are all of the other full service
ones I have been to in this state. The one in Perrinville is not full
service. If you live in their service area and need to pick up your mail or
a package, you go there while they are open and knock on a door. Do not
have to wait there.

But the others I have been to? The line always extends out the door. And
despite there being many stations installed, only 2 or 3 are ever manned.
And often one person will just go and never come back. Also, most of the
customers seem to have complex problems that take a very long time to deal
with.

I only go there if for some reason a package could not be delivered to me.
If I need to mail something, I go to a mail store. You don't have to wait
long there.

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> On Sun, 04 May 2014 22:55:28 -0400, Doris Night
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>> On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
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>> >Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an hour.

>>
>> How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
>> post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
>> state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
>> another time.
>>

>
> The post office can be really busy in a city, especially around
> Christmas.
>

Christmas is the worst! I can remember waiting for well over an hour to
pick up a package then.

Used to be a mailing place in Fred Meyers in Lynnwood and when I lived in
Alameda there was a similar one in Long's drugs. Loved those places if I
had to mail something. Here there are two mail places nearby that do USPS,
UPS and Fed Ex. There is also a UPS place. Two of them have notaries and
will do faxes. Not sure if the other one does.



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> I suppose this is OT but they seem to call when I'm cooking or eating and
> I wonder if telephone solicitors etc. realize that most people don't have
> old-fashioned phones without displays. As far as I can tell, if a caller
> has "Unknown name", "Caller not available", shows the calling phone
> number, etc., they are generally people I don't want to talk to. I have
> almost made the decision to ignore any of those unknowns. I don't think
> I'll lose much.
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On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:38:06 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> The only charities I donate to are the local animal shelters, I know
>
> that every penny goes to feeding and caring for those helpless
>
> critters. People can go get a J O B.


You might be happy to know that my shelter's 'oldest' resident was finally adopted. The dog was there 98 days.

Lots of ppl are now donating more food , but we have had to start keeping track of who gets how much - some enterprising souls were reselling it, or trying to return it to Walmart. We had to black out the code....
Others were coming in more often - we also had to get them to sign and compare signatures. One tried to register under two names, but we now photo the drivers license as valid ID. Always an angle ......
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On Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:02:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:59:56 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
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> > On 2014-05-04 6:47 PM, Cheri wrote:

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> >

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> >

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> > > I'm with you there Dave. I made a donation to Cystic Fibrosis and now

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> > > it's never ending. I made the mistake of mailing a donation

>
> > > to them.

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> >

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> >

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> > Yep. You made the same mistake that many of us made, sending a cheque

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> > with information or getting a receipt. Now they won't let go.

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> >

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> >

>
> If their letters asking for a donation include a postage paid return envelope I use that to return their request _to them_ asking them to remove my name AND address from their mailing list; I X out my name and address with a yellow highlighter. It does wonders to stop these unsolicited mailings..


It's never worked for me. NOw - if I want to make a one time donation - I scrawl my name, use a check with no name and address on it, and no return addr on my envelope.
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Re charities: I make contributions on a regular basis (annually) to about six well known and viable
charities, but now am getting mail from ones I have never heard of. I always say I don't want my
info shared, but obviously some of my donations are accepted by groups that turn around and sell
names and addresses. And some of these unknowns send really unwanted "gifts"...like the American
Indian School (I think that's the name) which sends me unsolicited and unwanted dream catchers
which certainly look handmade, but I suspect they are made in China. What a waste. Their envelopes
now go in the garbage unopened
before they ever make it into my house. I hope they get the message soon...I have received two of
these in the last four months.

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On 2014-05-04 11:01 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2014 22:55:28 -0400, Doris Night
> > wrote:
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>> On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an hour.

>>
>> How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
>> post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
>> state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
>> another time.
>>

>
> The post office can be really busy in a city, especially around
> Christmas.
>




Or .... it is a Julie tale..... which means it never happened.
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