"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-04 11:01 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 May 2014 22:55:28 -0400, Doris Night
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an
>>>> hour.
>>>
>>> How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
>>> post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
>>> state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
>>> another time.
>>>
>>
>> The post office can be really busy in a city, especially around
>> Christmas.
>>
>
>
>
> Or .... it is a Julie tale..... which means it never happened.

Nope. Waiting at the post office is a well known thing. As is the "going
postal" thing. Postal workers have long been overworked, not enough staff,
etc. Things have gotten somewhat better but it's still not a good
situation.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:51:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-05-04 11:01 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 04 May 2014 22:55:28 -0400, Doris Night
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:44:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Another time we were stuck in line at the post office for about an
>> >>> hour.
>> >>
>> >> How in the name of God is it possible to get stuck in a line at the
>> >> post office for an hour? Is it the only post office in the entire
>> >> state? Personally, I'd be tempted to abandon the line and go back at
>> >> another time.
>> >>
>> >
>> > The post office can be really busy in a city, especially around
>> > Christmas.
>> >
>>
>> Or .... it is a Julie tale..... which means it never happened.
>> >
>
> Oh, they probably really happened - but I suspect they are like
> fishing stories, where parts become exaggerated over time.
>
The Mill Creek post office is particularly bad. I had been warned of it
even before I went there. Not only do they serve Mill Creek but Bothell as
well. Bothell does apparently have a post office but they are not full
service. And Bothell isn't a small city. So if we need to pick up a
package, we have to go there. And for some reason, a lot of people also go
there for things they probably could do at one of the mail stores. So there
is always a line clear out the door no matter the day of the week or hour of
the day.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-05 2:20 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> Before answering machines, I got my one and only "vitamin" call. I'd
>> heard about them, but my calls were usually about the house: paint,
>> roof, replace wood framed windows with aluminum so I had fun with that
>> one.
>
>
> Do you get the one from the duct cleaning company who cleaned your ducts
> four years ago and they are due to be done again? One year I had at least
> three calls from duct cleaners, each claiming the same thing.

I've gotten the duct calls and I have no ducts!

On 5/5/2014 1:58 PM, tom wrote:
>
> I deal with unknown callers in one of two ways:

If you blow a horn into the phone to "deal with" unknown callers then
you're an asshole. There is a human on the other side of that phone
just doing a thankless job.

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfe

On 5/5/2014 3:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> As is the "going ******" thing.

I've know three postal workers over the years. 2 carriers that walked
their route and one counter person at the city's only post office. They
all would like to see that expression go the way of the Edsel.

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

"Cheri" wrote:
>"James Silverton" wrote:
>
>> I don't use coins except quarters for parking meters. The main problem
>> with those appeals enclosing a coin is that they jam the shredder when I
>> put the unopened envelope into it.
>
>LOL

They'd do more than jam, they'd cause permanent damage... paper clips
often damage shredders. Any of yoose with shredders know you're
supposed to lubricate the cutters, makes a big difference in how much
better they cut... drizzle a little 3in1 oil on a sheet of paper and
pass it through the shredder... every 500 sheets or every 6 months.

On Mon, 05 May 2014 14:11:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/5/2014 1:09 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2014-05-05 12:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Don't you ever need another nickel to make exact change? You are
>>>>> under no obligation to send it back. It would be wasteful to bother
>>>>> doing that or to throw it out. Put it in your pocket and spend it just
>>>>> like cash. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I would feel guilty just spending it. I put it into some charity box.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would you feel guilty? It was unsolicited.
>>
>> I know ... but I just would.
>>
>
>
>They want you to feel guilty enough to donate.

A nickle's worth of guilt doesn't nearly cover my time for opening
that mail. The junk mail I despise are those jumbo envelopes from
auto dealers that contain a worthless metal key... I open them to
remove the key before shredding, and they print your name and address
several times on each page.

On 2014-05-05 4:28 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 5/5/2014 1:58 PM, tom wrote:
>>
>> I deal with unknown callers in one of two ways:
>
> If you blow a horn into the phone to "deal with" unknown callers then
> you're an asshole. There is a human on the other side of that phone
> just doing a thankless job.
>



Most of us consider burglars and muggers to be doing a thankless job
too. Having no other job prospects does not make the telephone
solicitor's job any less intrusive.

On 5/5/2014 3:07 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> Do you get the one from the duct cleaning company who cleaned your
>> ducts four years ago and they are due to be done again? One year I had
>> at least three calls from duct cleaners, each claiming the same thing.
>
> I've gotten the duct calls and I have no ducts!

We get calls, and they hang up when you answer (the number keeps
changing). They will call at 2:00am, 5:00am, I think they are robo calls
and I wish they would stop.

Becca

sf wrote:
>Kalmia wrote:
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> >The only charities I donate to are the local animal shelters, I know
>> >that every penny goes to feeding and caring for those helpless
>> >critters. People can go get a J O B.
>
>Getting a job isn't as easy as he seems.

There's an abundance of good paying jobs, problem is people,
especially young people, are deathly ascared of perspiration, dirty
hands, and calluses. Today everyone wants to drive a desk and start
off collecting a CEO's salary or they'd rather be bums. There are
dozens of occupations (that will never go obsolete) that go begging
because it's less work to be on the dole. Anyone willing to wield a
paint brush can earn a very good living, can earn even more if one is
willing to learn wall papering too. I have a good friend who dropped
out or high school and has been painting and papering all his life,
and still at age 70, for a long while he's had his own business and
mostly all he does is bid on jobs, he became quite wealthy. We began
together painting stoops in Brooklyn when school was out during
summer, he decided to make painting his career. What's not easy today
is finding a good house painter. The electrician who wired my barn
has his 17 year old son as his helper, that kid will always have a job
and will make excellent money. I can list at least 20 different
skilled trades that are nearly impossible to fill today because young
people are ascared of work. I know another person I grew up with
who's a glass cutter, and he doesn't do window panes, he does fancy
custom table tops, mirrors, and such with intricate configurations,
another skilled trade with a huge demand not being filled. Do you
know that a good air conditioning/refrigeration mechanic earns more
than a dentist, I know because the dental hygienist who cleans my
teeth is married to one, they live very well, she doesn't need to work
only she enjoys working and she likes her job... she gets to talk,
talk, talk and no one can disagree with her. lol

Dave Smith wrote:
>sf wrote:
>
>> Before answering machines, I got my one and only "vitamin" call. I'd
>> heard about them, but my calls were usually about the house: paint,
>> roof, replace wood framed windows with aluminum so I had fun with that
>> one.
>
>Do you get the one from the duct cleaning company who cleaned your ducts
>four years ago and they are due to be done again?

sf has a duct you can drive a Mack truck through... she gets her duct
serviced at the Bronx Zoo, by the veterinary gyn who does the
elephants.

On Mon, 5 May 2014 13:07:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2014-05-05 2:20 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> Before answering machines, I got my one and only "vitamin" call. I'd
>>> heard about them, but my calls were usually about the house: paint,
>>> roof, replace wood framed windows with aluminum so I had fun with that
>>> one.
>>
>>
>> Do you get the one from the duct cleaning company who cleaned your ducts
>> four years ago and they are due to be done again? One year I had at least
>> three calls from duct cleaners, each claiming the same thing.
>
>I've gotten the duct calls and I have no ducts!

Yours just hasn't been used in a good while. hehe

On 5/5/2014 1:16 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/5/2014 12:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-05-05 11:55 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> The ones that annoy me, are the ones with nickels attached. Thats' a
>>> waste to me.
>>>
>>
>> Don't you ever need another nickel to make exact change? You are under
>> no obligation to send it back. It would be wasteful to bother doing that
>> or to throw it out. Put it in your pocket and spend it just like cash.
>> ;-)
>>
> Her point is, why are they mailing out nickels when *they* should be
> putting them into the charity?
>
> Jill

After reading the post about putting the envelope in the shredder
unopened, that's probably the intent. To open it.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/5/2014 3:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> As is the "going ******" thing.
>
> I've know three postal workers over the years. 2 carriers that walked
> their route and one counter person at the city's only post office. They
> all would like to see that expression go the way of the Edsel.

I have known postal workers too. They are retired now. I'm sure they would
like to see that expression gone. However, it did happen! And although the
post office has made changes, I can't see as much change there as I can with
the DMV.

I don't know about your state, but when I was younger, the DMV was probably
the last place you'd ever want to go. The buildings had very institutional
looks to them. Not nearly enough staff, all overworked and all with a bad
attitude problem which they took out on *you*! The state made lots of
changes to make things better. Much friendlier looking surroundings, more
help. They even stopped doing the driving tests there. I think the written
tests can still be taken there via computer but they can be taken other
places as well.

Since they made these changes, I've not encountered a gruff person there at
all. I can't say the same for the social security office. Although most
people there were nice I did manage to cross the path of one woman on a bad
day. Wasn't pretty. She was much nicer the next time I went in. Seems the
person I spoke to over the phone sent me entirely the wrong documents which
I took the time to fill out. She became angry at me because I brought in
the wrong thing.

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/5/2014 1:58 PM, tom wrote:
>>
>> I deal with unknown callers in one of two ways:
>
> If you blow a horn into the phone to "deal with" unknown callers then
> you're an asshole. There is a human on the other side of that phone just
> doing a thankless job.
>
That's true. However, they made the choice to take that job. I don't care
how desperate I am. There is no way I would ever take a job going door to
door selling or telemarketing. I think those jobs are just wrong in this
day and age. I do realize in the past, door to door was a much needed
thing. For certain things. It isn't now. Door to door people and
telemarketers annoy people. Plain and simple.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-05-05 4:28 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 5/5/2014 1:58 PM, tom wrote:
>>>
>>> I deal with unknown callers in one of two ways:
>>
>> If you blow a horn into the phone to "deal with" unknown callers then
>> you're an asshole. There is a human on the other side of that phone
>> just doing a thankless job.
>>
>
>
>
> Most of us consider burglars and muggers to be doing a thankless job too.
> Having no other job prospects does not make the telephone solicitor's job
> any less intrusive.

Oh mon dieu! I actually agree with you on something! I think these sorts
of people are akin to drug dealers. The drug dealer will justify what they
are doing, saying they could get no other job. And this could be true. But
it doesn't make it right.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote:
>>"James Silverton" wrote:
>>
>>> I don't use coins except quarters for parking meters. The main problem
>>> with those appeals enclosing a coin is that they jam the shredder when I
>>> put the unopened envelope into it.
>>
>>LOL
>
> They'd do more than jam, they'd cause permanent damage... paper clips
> often damage shredders. Any of yoose with shredders know you're
> supposed to lubricate the cutters, makes a big difference in how much
> better they cut... drizzle a little 3in1 oil on a sheet of paper and
> pass it through the shredder... every 500 sheets or every 6 months.

I have no experience with shredders. I only have shredding scissors but now
with most things being paperless, that's really all I need.

But when I worked at K Mart, we had a huge, crappy copy machine. The danged
thing broke down at least once a week and we'd have to wait for the
repairman to come. About every other time, he would find a paperclip
somewhere in the bowels of the beast, bunging things up.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 05 May 2014 14:11:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 5/5/2014 1:09 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2014-05-05 12:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Don't you ever need another nickel to make exact change? You are
>>>>>> under no obligation to send it back. It would be wasteful to bother
>>>>>> doing that or to throw it out. Put it in your pocket and spend it
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> like cash. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would feel guilty just spending it. I put it into some charity box.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would you feel guilty? It was unsolicited.
>>>
>>> I know ... but I just would.
>>>
>>
>>
>>They want you to feel guilty enough to donate.
>
> A nickle's worth of guilt doesn't nearly cover my time for opening
> that mail. The junk mail I despise are those jumbo envelopes from
> auto dealers that contain a worthless metal key... I open them to
> remove the key before shredding, and they print your name and address
> several times on each page.

Oh yes! I haven't gotten those in a while. But I used to get them.

And this is OT but used to be, every time I took my Windstar in for repairs,
I'd get a phone call soon after from the dealer's used car department,
wanting to buy it. Which of course wasn't an option and I told the lady
this once. Said if I sold it, I would have nothing to drive. Her reply
was, "But don't you WANT a new car?" To which I replied, "Of course I do!
But I have no money!" She then went on to cheerily mention that they had
financing. And I replied, "Yes, but I have no money with which to make a
payment!" She hung up.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>>Kalmia wrote:
>>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> >
>>> >The only charities I donate to are the local animal shelters, I know
>>> >that every penny goes to feeding and caring for those helpless
>>> >critters. People can go get a J O B.
>>
>>Getting a job isn't as easy as he seems.
>
> There's an abundance of good paying jobs, problem is people,
> especially young people, are deathly ascared of perspiration, dirty
> hands, and calluses. Today everyone wants to drive a desk and start
> off collecting a CEO's salary or they'd rather be bums. There are
> dozens of occupations (that will never go obsolete) that go begging
> because it's less work to be on the dole. Anyone willing to wield a
> paint brush can earn a very good living, can earn even more if one is
> willing to learn wall papering too. I have a good friend who dropped
> out or high school and has been painting and papering all his life,
> and still at age 70, for a long while he's had his own business and
> mostly all he does is bid on jobs, he became quite wealthy. We began
> together painting stoops in Brooklyn when school was out during
> summer, he decided to make painting his career. What's not easy today
> is finding a good house painter. The electrician who wired my barn
> has his 17 year old son as his helper, that kid will always have a job
> and will make excellent money. I can list at least 20 different
> skilled trades that are nearly impossible to fill today because young
> people are ascared of work. I know another person I grew up with
> who's a glass cutter, and he doesn't do window panes, he does fancy
> custom table tops, mirrors, and such with intricate configurations,
> another skilled trade with a huge demand not being filled. Do you
> know that a good air conditioning/refrigeration mechanic earns more
> than a dentist, I know because the dental hygienist who cleans my
> teeth is married to one, they live very well, she doesn't need to work
> only she enjoys working and she likes her job... she gets to talk,
> talk, talk and no one can disagree with her. lol

That's simply not true Sheldon. I doubt that it's true for any part of the
country and it's certainly not true here. This is why my husband had to
move back to NY just so we could put food on the table.

I know several people in the heating/airconditiong field. One works for a
roofing company now. When times get tough, heating and air conditioning are
not things people get repaired. I know of one family who made it through a
whole winter staying mostly in one room with thick blankets at the doorways
and making due with a space heater as they couldn't afford to have the
furnace repaired.

There is likely a non-human robo-caller at the other end.

N.

On 5/5/2014 5:53 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/5/2014 1:16 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/5/2014 12:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-05 11:55 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ones that annoy me, are the ones with nickels attached. Thats' a
>>>> waste to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't you ever need another nickel to make exact change? You are under
>>> no obligation to send it back. It would be wasteful to bother doing that
>>> or to throw it out. Put it in your pocket and spend it just like cash.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>> Her point is, why are they mailing out nickels when *they* should be
>> putting them into the charity?
>>
>> Jill
>
> After reading the post about putting the envelope in the shredder
> unopened, that's probably the intent. To open it.
>
Doesn't mean you have to read it. Keep the money and put the letter
itself in the shredder.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/5/2014 5:53 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 5/5/2014 1:16 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2014 12:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2014-05-05 11:55 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The ones that annoy me, are the ones with nickels attached. Thats' a
>>>>> waste to me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't you ever need another nickel to make exact change? You are under
>>>> no obligation to send it back. It would be wasteful to bother doing
>>>> that
>>>> or to throw it out. Put it in your pocket and spend it just like cash.
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>> Her point is, why are they mailing out nickels when *they* should be
>>> putting them into the charity?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> After reading the post about putting the envelope in the shredder
>> unopened, that's probably the intent. To open it.
>>
> Doesn't mean you have to read it. Keep the money and put the letter
> itself in the shredder.

I never read anything like that. Most of my mail goes strait in the blue
bin. If there is money, I take it out first.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Cheri" wrote:
>>"James Silverton" wrote:
>>
>>> I don't use coins except quarters for parking meters. The main problem
>>> with those appeals enclosing a coin is that they jam the shredder when I
>>> put the unopened envelope into it.
>>
>>LOL
>
> They'd do more than jam, they'd cause permanent damage... paper clips
> often damage shredders. Any of yoose with shredders know you're
> supposed to lubricate the cutters, makes a big difference in how much
> better they cut... drizzle a little 3in1 oil on a sheet of paper and
> pass it through the shredder... every 500 sheets or every 6 months.

Actually I do that every time I empty it, but it's a large Fellowes so it
holds quite a bit. I took what James said to be a joke, that's why I
laughed, the only thing that isn't paper that I put through mine are CD's,
and Credit Cards, in a special slot, certainly wouldn't put coins through
it.

Cheri

On 5/6/2014 1:00 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>> "James Silverton" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't use coins except quarters for parking meters. The main problem
>>>> with those appeals enclosing a coin is that they jam the shredder
>>>> when I
>>>> put the unopened envelope into it.
>>>
>>> LOL
>>
>> They'd do more than jam, they'd cause permanent damage... paper clips
>> often damage shredders. Any of yoose with shredders know you're
>> supposed to lubricate the cutters, makes a big difference in how much
>> better they cut... drizzle a little 3in1 oil on a sheet of paper and
>> pass it through the shredder... every 500 sheets or every 6 months.
>
> Actually I do that every time I empty it, but it's a large Fellowes so
> it holds quite a bit. I took what James said to be a joke, that's why I
> laughed, the only thing that isn't paper that I put through mine are
> CD's, and Credit Cards, in a special slot, certainly wouldn't put coins
> through it.
>
> Cheri

I wasn't being very serious but I have actually had a shredder jam
because of one of those coins. My Fellowes shredder stops very quickly
when it feels overworked and can be reversed but it can deal with the
odd paper clip.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 5/5/2014 3:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It is interesting when they say they are calling from "your internet
> provider" and you ask which one and they can't even tell you the name.
> Some have told me that they are calling from MicroSoft. I ask them which
> computer they are calling about and say that I have 4 or 5.

I've never had the Microsoft call, but a co-worker has. We're in IT and
he screws with them when they call because they are clearly clueless
about what they're calling about.

--
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Cheryl

On 5/5/2014 6:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I don't know about your state, but when I was younger, the DMV was
> probably the last place you'd ever want to go. The buildings had very
> institutional looks to them. Not nearly enough staff, all overworked
> and all with a bad attitude problem which they took out on *you*! The
> state made lots of changes to make things better. Much friendlier
> looking surroundings, more help. They even stopped doing the driving
> tests there. I think the written tests can still be taken there via
> computer but they can be taken other places as well.

I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.

--
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Cheryl

On 5/6/2014 8:00 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/5/2014 6:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I don't know about your state, but when I was younger, the DMV was
>> probably the last place you'd ever want to go. The buildings had very
>> institutional looks to them.

Surprise! It's a government building. They don't look like grand
hotels. The DMV for the area where I live isn't pretty, but pretty
isn't the point.

> I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
> guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
> satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.
>
The only reason I've had to go to the DMV in recent years was when I
moved here from a different state. I had to register my car, thus had
to officially change my driver's license from TN to SC. No long lines,
no big deal. The woman I dealt with was very nice. She even tried to
get a good DL photo. As if there is such a thing. LOL

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/6/2014 8:00 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 5/5/2014 6:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know about your state, but when I was younger, the DMV was
>>> probably the last place you'd ever want to go. The buildings had very
>>> institutional looks to them.
>
> Surprise! It's a government building. They don't look like grand
> hotels. The DMV for the area where I live isn't pretty, but pretty
> isn't the point.
>
>> I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
>> guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
>> satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.
>>
> The only reason I've had to go to the DMV in recent years was when I
> moved here from a different state. I had to register my car, thus had
> to officially change my driver's license from TN to SC. No long lines,
> no big deal. The woman I dealt with was very nice. She even tried to
> get a good DL photo. As if there is such a thing. LOL
>
> Jill

Did she manage to hide your bald spots?

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 5/5/2014 6:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I don't know about your state, but when I was younger, the DMV was
>> probably the last place you'd ever want to go. The buildings had very
>> institutional looks to them. Not nearly enough staff, all overworked
>> and all with a bad attitude problem which they took out on *you*! The
>> state made lots of changes to make things better. Much friendlier
>> looking surroundings, more help. They even stopped doing the driving
>> tests there. I think the written tests can still be taken there via
>> computer but they can be taken other places as well.
>
> I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
> guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
> satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.
>
We don't even have to go in every time to get a new license. They'll use
the same pic and you just renew online. But every other time, you have to
go get a new pic, eye test, etc.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2014 8:00 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 5/5/2014 6:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know about your state, but when I was younger, the DMV was
>>> probably the last place you'd ever want to go. The buildings had very
>>> institutional looks to them.
>
> Surprise! It's a government building. They don't look like grand hotels.
> The DMV for the area where I live isn't pretty, but pretty isn't the
> point.

Well, ours looks much better now.
>
>> I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
>> guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
>> satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.
>>
> The only reason I've had to go to the DMV in recent years was when I moved
> here from a different state. I had to register my car, thus had to
> officially change my driver's license from TN to SC. No long lines, no
> big deal. The woman I dealt with was very nice. She even tried to get a
> good DL photo. As if there is such a thing. LOL

I actually had a good one once and only once.

On Tue, 06 May 2014 20:00:28 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
> guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
> satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.

I can renew over the internet, but I have to go in once every ten
years for a new picture. Luckily, we can make appointments now so the
process goes a lot faster. What surprised me was how fast my new
driver's license came in the mail... less than a week. Really!


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 06 May 2014 20:00:28 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> I can't even remember the last time I had to go to the DMV in person. I
>> guess only when I've had to have my license renewed. We have little
>> satellite DMV offices and they're generally very fast to get through.
>
> I can renew over the internet, but I have to go in once every ten
> years for a new picture. Luckily, we can make appointments now so the
> process goes a lot faster. What surprised me was how fast my new
> driver's license came in the mail... less than a week. Really!
>
I think ours might be instant now. But I could be wrong on that.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 5/5/2014 3:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> It is interesting when they say they are calling from "your internet
>> provider" and you ask which one and they can't even tell you the name.
>> Some have told me that they are calling from MicroSoft. I ask them which
>> computer they are calling about and say that I have 4 or 5.
>
> I've never had the Microsoft call, but a co-worker has. We're in IT and
> he screws with them when they call because they are clearly clueless about
> what they're calling about.

Yes, we have noticed that too Ask a couple of questions and they are
floundering! If they want to scan us, at least they could used some techie
competent callers


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 5/5/2014 3:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> It is interesting when they say they are calling from "your internet
>>> provider" and you ask which one and they can't even tell you the name.
>>> Some have told me that they are calling from MicroSoft. I ask them which
>>> computer they are calling about and say that I have 4 or 5.
>>
>> I've never had the Microsoft call, but a co-worker has. We're in IT and
>> he screws with them when they call because they are clearly clueless
>> about what they're calling about.
>
> Yes, we have noticed that too Ask a couple of questions and they are
> floundering! If they want to scan us, at least they could used some
> techie competent callers

I kept one on the phone for a very long time. Long enough to call my bro
who doesn't technically work for Microsoft but has done some things for them
in the past. The guy stayed on the phone even after I told him I had
reported him (and I did) to whoever it was that my bro said to report him
to.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/1/2014 1:20 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 01/05/2014 11:13 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> I suppose this is OT but they seem to call when I'm cooking or eating
>>> and I wonder if telephone solicitors etc. realize that most people don't
>>> have old-fashioned phones without displays. As far as I can tell, if a
>>> caller has "Unknown name", "Caller not available", shows the calling
>>> phone number, etc., they are generally people I don't want to talk to. I
>>> have almost made the decision to ignore any of those unknowns. I don't
>>> think I'll lose much.
>>>
>>>
>> That's my attitude as well and as they ring off when the answering
>> machine kicks in, I'm usually right.
>> Graham
>
> Anyone who knows me knows to talk to the machine. IF I'm home and not
> busy I'll answer. If they don't, tough luck. You don't get to talk to
> me if you won't identify yourself.
>
> Jill

Yup. You know I agree.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/4/2014 10:27 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 23:13:38 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/1/2014 1:13 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> I suppose this is OT but they seem to call when I'm cooking or eating
>>>>
>>> Just ignore them. I haven't answered an unknown caller in years. I also
>>> don't answer if i don't recognize the number. If I know them, they can
>>> leave a message and i'll call back.
>>
>> It's amazing how many people feel compelled to answer a phone just
>> because it's ringing.
>>
> I simply don't understand it. If you call me and I don't answer, talk
> to my machine (assuming I'm home, not busy and I know you) and I'll
> probably pick up. I don't dash to the phone to check the caller ID
> every time it rings.
>
> I'm curious as to why telemarketing is still such a prevalent thing. I
> don't know anyone who ever bought anything simply because someone called
> them on the phone. I suppose we could go back to the days when sales
> people came to the door instead. LOL
>
> Jill

Oh gross. I figure the phone is here primarily for MY convenience.
Like you, if someone wants to speak to me, they'd better start speaking
into my machine. I do pick up when expecting a call from a doctor or
someone else, but that's pretty much it.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...

>> I'm curious as to why telemarketing is still such a prevalent thing. I
>> don't know anyone who ever bought anything simply because someone called
>> them on the phone. I suppose we could go back to the days when sales
>> people came to the door instead. LOL
>>
>> Jill

When I was first married, I sold window awnings through telemarketing, and
actually sold some the first day I worked at it. I made 28.00 which wasn't
bad money in the 60's. However, I hated it and that was the only day I did
it. LOL

Cheri