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This American food thing got me to thinking.

When I was trying that raw vegan diet, a guy in Australia posted that his
church had an International potluck and he had offered to bring an American
dish. Now a raw vegan diet is very restrictive and probably hardly
indicative of any one culture's cuisine to start with.

He came back from the potluck, disappointed saying that apparently
Australians just did not like American food. So we asked him what he made.
And he said he had made crackers and dip because he knew that Americans
liked to dip things. We do? Hmmm...

So we then asked, what kind of crackers and what kind of dip? Flax crackers
and a bowl of Nama Shoyu (raw soy sauce) for dipping. Now why he would
think anyone would want this combination is beyond me! I don't know how
many here have tried flax crackers. I have. They're like eating nothing.
You can feel something in your mouth but other than that there isn't a lot
of taste. Unless you have flavored them. And believe me when I tell you
that the pizza or nacho flavored ones do not taste anything like the real
things.

Several of us tried to politely point out that this was not a combination
we'd ever eat. But that fresh fruit with an avocado/chocolate type pudding
for dip or apple slices and nut butter or even raw veggies and a nacho nut
cheese or salsa would have worked. Would have been tasty and would be quite
similar to something that many Americans would eat. He just sort of laughed
it off and said, "Yeah... Right!"

I think a lot of Americans seem to think that Italians eat tons of pizza and
pasta. Sure they do eat it but not like we do here. Their meals have
several courses with pasta being but one. Can't really speak for the pizza
except that my friend said that it could be bought by the slice in the
street. So perhaps more of a lunch dish? I know that sandwiches are
popular for lunch there too.

A lot of Americans also think that the food they get in a Chinese or Mexican
restaurant is the same that they would get if they go to those countries.
Sometimes it is. But often it is more Americanized and not something even
remotely close to what you'd find there. I also know that meat and fish are
used in much smaller portions in Chinese cooking than they are here.

I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and boring. And
yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that they made was not
that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I tried were quite good. My
dad didn't help me out any after he went there for business and came home
telling us that you have to eat little fish for breakfast. I presume that
these were kippers?

I also thought that Canadian food was the same as what we get here and much
of it is, but they have things that we don't. Like Poutine! I think some
restaurants here are now serving it but not too many.

So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
countries? Or heard of any such things?

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> This American food thing got me to thinking.
>
>
> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
> countries? Or heard of any such things?
>
>


To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food
seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San
Diego, and I'll go to "Asian" restaurants, but I don't expect the kind of
food I got during a two year stint in Asia while in the Navy.

But, like your Australian example, it definitely works both ways. I was
in Amsterdam on business once on the 4th of July, and I was staying at a
chain hotel, Marriott if I remember correctly. I made the mistake of
eating what they called "an American 4th of July meal" (it was the only
thing on the menu that day). Something that was supposed to be hot dogs,
but wasn't, something that was supposed to be potato salad, but wasn't,
and something that was supposed to be blueberry pie, but _definitely_
wasn't.
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>> This American food thing got me to thinking.
>>
>>
>> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
>> countries? Or heard of any such things?
>>
>>

>
> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food
> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San
> Diego, and I'll go to "Asian" restaurants, but I don't expect the kind of
> food I got during a two year stint in Asia while in the Navy.
>
> But, like your Australian example, it definitely works both ways. I was
> in Amsterdam on business once on the 4th of July, and I was staying at a
> chain hotel, Marriott if I remember correctly. I made the mistake of
> eating what they called "an American 4th of July meal" (it was the only
> thing on the menu that day). Something that was supposed to be hot dogs,
> but wasn't, something that was supposed to be potato salad, but wasn't,
> and something that was supposed to be blueberry pie, but _definitely_
> wasn't.


Heh. I did read something like this in a book recently. I can't remember
who wrote it but they said while traveling, they kept being taken into a
separate dining room and being fed rather bland and boring food. Reason
being that these hotels and restaurants in a touristy area thought this is
what Americans wanted to eat. This was some years back. Perhaps the
1950's. They finally figured out to ask for what the staff was eating.
Only then did they get the truly local fare.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and boring.
> And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that they made
> was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I tried were quite
> good.


I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food is
neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to make
them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used to. Our
eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are American and she
spends a lot of time there with them too, but she still loves my cooking and
always has requests when she visits)

My
> dad didn't help me out any after he went there for business and came home
> telling us that you have to eat little fish for breakfast. I presume that
> these were kippers?


Well I think they are a common breakfast for some but I haven't had them in
years.

> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
> countries? Or heard of any such things?


When I saw those counters of 'US food' I didn't think for one moment they
were what 'everyone' in US eats: and especially not the posters here

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>> This American food thing got me to thinking.
>>
>>
>> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
>> countries? Or heard of any such things?
>>
>>

>
> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food
> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San
> Diego, and I'll go to "Asian" restaurants, but I don't expect the kind of
> food I got during a two year stint in Asia while in the Navy.
>
> But, like your Australian example, it definitely works both ways. I was
> in Amsterdam on business once on the 4th of July, and I was staying at a
> chain hotel, Marriott if I remember correctly. I made the mistake of
> eating what they called "an American 4th of July meal" (it was the only
> thing on the menu that day). Something that was supposed to be hot dogs,
> but wasn't, something that was supposed to be potato salad, but wasn't,
> and something that was supposed to be blueberry pie, but _definitely_
> wasn't.


Oh dear)

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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
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> > My dad didn't help me out any after he went there for business and came home

>
> > telling us that you have to eat little fish for breakfast. I presume that

>
> > these were kippers?

>

Of course, you "HAVE TO," otherwise they'll confine you in The Tower.
>
> Well I think they are a common breakfast for some but I haven't had them in
>
> years.
>

I just finished a can. First breakfast was a piece of pollock, but when I
saw kipper, I couldn't resist. Fish for breakfast, and I'm an American.

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On 15/01/2014 07:07, Julie Bove wrote:

> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
> countries? Or heard of any such things?


I was speaking to a chap at work from the Democratic Republic of Congo
about whether he likes to eat people back home. Human Resources got
involved and made me attend a Diversity Awareness course otherwise they
were going to dismiss me. As a result, I understand first-hand how
false conceptions of what people eat can cause a lot of embarrassment.

I still have the perception that Australians eat a lot of barbecued meat
but I don't know whether it's a false one. I'm assuming that if they
do, it isn't humanoid in origin.



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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:28:18 AM UTC-5, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
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> I just finished a can. First breakfast was a piece of pollock, but when I
> saw kipper, I couldn't resist. Fish for breakfast, and I'm an American.
>
> --B


I love kippers but have not had them for over a decade. The
best are the fresh ones (freshly smoked) not the ones in
packages. The problem is that they stink out the house.
Even if they are cooked outside, just bringing them indoors
will result in a lingering aroma. Not to mention disposal of
the bones.

Regarding ethnic food I'm almost never fooled by local
offerings. I know that it is almost impossible to get
authentic food away from the country of origin. One
exception is a superb restaurant I found in Chinatown, San
Francisco.

British food gets a bad rap, however I bet very few people outside the island know what it is. This goes doubly for Scotland.

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On 15/01/2014 13:11, Helpful person wrote:

> British food gets a bad rap, however I bet very few people outside
> the island know what it is. This goes doubly for Scotland.


All the Americans I know who have visited here loved our food.
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> On 15/01/2014 07:07, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
>> countries? Or heard of any such things?

>
> I was speaking to a chap at work from the Democratic Republic of Congo
> about whether he likes to eat people back home. Human Resources got
> involved and made me attend a Diversity Awareness course otherwise they
> were going to dismiss me. As a result, I understand first-hand how false
> conceptions of what people eat can cause a lot of embarrassment.
>
> I still have the perception that Australians eat a lot of barbecued meat
> but I don't know whether it's a false one. I'm assuming that if they do,
> it isn't humanoid in origin.


Oooh please stop. I am getting squicked

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> This American food thing got me to thinking.
>
> When I was trying that raw vegan diet, a guy in Australia posted that his
> church had an International potluck and he had offered to bring an
> American dish. Now a raw vegan diet is very restrictive and probably
> hardly indicative of any one culture's cuisine to start with.
>
> He came back from the potluck, disappointed saying that apparently
> Australians just did not like American food. So we asked him what he
> made. And he said he had made crackers and dip because he knew that
> Americans liked to dip things. We do? Hmmm...
>
> So we then asked, what kind of crackers and what kind of dip? Flax
> crackers and a bowl of Nama Shoyu (raw soy sauce) for dipping. Now why he
> would think anyone would want this combination is beyond me! I don't know
> how many here have tried flax crackers. I have. They're like eating
> nothing. You can feel something in your mouth but other than that there
> isn't a lot of taste. Unless you have flavored them. And believe me when
> I tell you that the pizza or nacho flavored ones do not taste anything
> like the real things.


I like flax crackers, but I make my own for eating with tuna.

Cheri

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:07:54 +0000, White Spirit wrote:

> On 15/01/2014 07:07, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
>> countries? Or heard of any such things?

>
> I was speaking to a chap at work from the Democratic Republic of Congo
> about whether he likes to eat people back home. Human Resources got
> involved and made me attend a Diversity Awareness course otherwise they
> were going to dismiss me. As a result, I understand first-hand how false
> conceptions of what people eat can cause a lot of embarrassment.
>
> I still have the perception that Australians eat a lot of barbecued meat
> but I don't know whether it's a false one. I'm assuming that if they do,
> it isn't humanoid in origin.


<snork> Too funny.

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> Fish for breakfast, and I'm an American.


BUT....you're turning Japanese, you're really turning Japanese, I
really think so.

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The only time I've been (mildly) surprised was when I was traveling
through Germany in 2006. We found a charming little restaurant with
outside sitting. I was very surprised to find a mozzarella cheese and
tomato salad on the menu and ordered it. It was the best I have ever
eaten! It may very well have been the ambiance of the place (an old
part of town - don't remember the town right now - our small table on
the cobblestones of the large open square - a great people watching place.)

I hadn't given it much thought until that evening, but that type of
salad in Germany just surprised me. That it was so amazingly good was
another surprise!

FTR I never had a bad meal during my almost 2 weeks in Germany, Austria
and Italy.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and
>> boring. And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that
>> they made was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I
>> tried were quite good.

>
> I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food
> is neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to
> make them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used
> to. Our eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are
> American and she spends a lot of time there with them too, but she
> still loves my cooking and always has requests when she visits)
>


I was about to post how I had the same preconceived notion about British
food until I actually got to London on business and the local office folk
took me to a restaurant in Kew Garden call Jasper's Bun in the Oven. A
very enjoyable experience. I googled Jasper's and discovered that it had
been sold to a multinational, to the detriment of the food quality, I'm
sure.

And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at
an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
title. The title was well deserved...


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"Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and
>>> boring. And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that
>>> they made was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I
>>> tried were quite good.

>>
>> I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food
>> is neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to
>> make them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used
>> to. Our eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are
>> American and she spends a lot of time there with them too, but she
>> still loves my cooking and always has requests when she visits)
>>

>
> I was about to post how I had the same preconceived notion about British
> food until I actually got to London on business and the local office folk
> took me to a restaurant in Kew Garden call Jasper's Bun in the Oven. A
> very enjoyable experience. I googled Jasper's and discovered that it had
> been sold to a multinational, to the detriment of the food quality, I'm
> sure.
>
> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
> fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
> American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at
> an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
> title. The title was well deserved...


Yes! I remember finding it odd when I first began watching British shows
that they ate so much curry. And I would hear them say that they wanted to
eat a curry. I was like... What is *a* curry? Curry to me is a seasoning
but... I have seen British chefs demonstrate how to make it and apparently
it is a specific dish. Would not appeal to me as I don't like the taste of
curry. Any curry.

I guess it would be like how in some parts of the USA, we give a Mexican
twist to a lot of things. It's not really Mexican food but we use a lot of
those flavors.

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"Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and
>>> boring. And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that
>>> they made was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I
>>> tried were quite good.

>>
>> I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food
>> is neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to
>> make them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used
>> to. Our eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are
>> American and she spends a lot of time there with them too, but she
>> still loves my cooking and always has requests when she visits)
>>

>
> I was about to post how I had the same preconceived notion about British
> food until I actually got to London on business and the local office folk
> took me to a restaurant in Kew Garden call Jasper's Bun in the Oven. A
> very enjoyable experience. I googled Jasper's and discovered that it had
> been sold to a multinational, to the detriment of the food quality, I'm
> sure.
>
> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
> fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
> American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at
> an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
> title. The title was well deserved...


Oh dear ....

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:47:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
> . 3.30...
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in
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> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and
> >>> boring. And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that
> >>> they made was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I
> >>> tried were quite good.
> >>
> >> I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food
> >> is neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to
> >> make them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used
> >> to. Our eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are
> >> American and she spends a lot of time there with them too, but she
> >> still loves my cooking and always has requests when she visits)
> >>

> >
> > I was about to post how I had the same preconceived notion about British
> > food until I actually got to London on business and the local office folk
> > took me to a restaurant in Kew Garden call Jasper's Bun in the Oven. A
> > very enjoyable experience. I googled Jasper's and discovered that it had
> > been sold to a multinational, to the detriment of the food quality, I'm
> > sure.
> >
> > And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
> > cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
> > fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
> > American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at
> > an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
> > title. The title was well deserved...

>
> Oh dear ....


Shhhh.


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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:06:57 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
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> >

>
> > Fish for breakfast, and I'm an American.

>
>
>
> BUT....you're turning Japanese, you're really turning Japanese, I
>
> really think so.
>

Back when I was in my mid-twenties and smoked (my version of living with a ferret), I used to have a Fry Daddy, and I fried Mrs. Paul's/Gorton's
fish fillets up for breakfast most days, and I'd douse them with RealLemon.
>
> G.


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>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>
>>> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and
>>> boring. And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that
>>> they made was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I
>>> tried were quite good.

>>
>> I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food
>> is neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to
>> make them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used
>> to. Our eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are
>> American and she spends a lot of time there with them too, but she
>> still loves my cooking and always has requests when she visits)
>>

>
> I was about to post how I had the same preconceived notion about British
> food until I actually got to London on business and the local office folk
> took me to a restaurant in Kew Garden call Jasper's Bun in the Oven. A
> very enjoyable experience. I googled Jasper's and discovered that it had
> been sold to a multinational, to the detriment of the food quality, I'm
> sure.
>
> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
> fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
> American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at
> an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
> title. The title was well deserved...


And the reverse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdo79znnHl8

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"Bloke Down The Pub" > wrote in
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>> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
>> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and
>> Indonesian fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of
>> passage for all American visitors from headquarters that involved
>> being taken to lunch at an Indonesian place and fed something that
>> had the word 'Dragon' in the title. The title was well deserved...

>
> And the reverse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdo79znnHl8
>
> Mike
>

I'm speechless. Hard to speak when you're laughing that hard. Now
you're going to inspire a thread about the old canard that Brits don't
have a sense of humor...(Ever watch 'Mrs. Brown'?)

BTW, I already _knew_ that Australians have a sense of humor. One of the
guys in the Sydney office invited me over for dinner once while I was
down there and actually said to me "We'll throw another shrimp on the
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>>>
>>> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
>>> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and
>>> Indonesian fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of
>>> passage for all American visitors from headquarters that involved
>>> being taken to lunch at an Indonesian place and fed something that
>>> had the word 'Dragon' in the title. The title was well deserved...

>>
>> And the reverse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdo79znnHl8
>>
>> Mike
>>

> I'm speechless. Hard to speak when you're laughing that hard. Now
> you're going to inspire a thread about the old canard that Brits don't
> have a sense of humor...(Ever watch 'Mrs. Brown'?)
>
> BTW, I already _knew_ that Australians have a sense of humor. One of the
> guys in the Sydney office invited me over for dinner once while I was
> down there and actually said to me "We'll throw another shrimp on the
> barbie".


Hehehe. That's funny!

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On 1/29/2014 9:42 AM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:

>> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
>> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
>> fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
>> American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at
>> an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
>> title. The title was well deserved...


Note to self: stay away from the people in Bristol.
>
> And the reverse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdo79znnHl8


Hilarious.

nancy

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"sf" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:47:07 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
> . 3.30...
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> I've also had it drilled into me that British food is bland and
> >>> boring. And yet, I used to watch The Two Fat Ladies and the food that
> >>> they made was not that at all. In fact any of their recipes that I
> >>> tried were quite good.
> >>
> >> I know, I get that here all the time) I can assure you that my food
> >> is neither bland nor boring and I don't need to use a load of spice to
> >> make them interesting. I think that is more about what one is used
> >> to. Our eldest granddaughter's other grandparents and family are
> >> American and she spends a lot of time there with them too, but she
> >> still loves my cooking and always has requests when she visits)
> >>

> >
> > I was about to post how I had the same preconceived notion about British
> > food until I actually got to London on business and the local office
> > folk
> > took me to a restaurant in Kew Garden call Jasper's Bun in the Oven. A
> > very enjoyable experience. I googled Jasper's and discovered that it
> > had
> > been sold to a multinational, to the detriment of the food quality, I'm
> > sure.
> >
> > And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland
> > cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian
> > fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all
> > American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch
> > at
> > an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the
> > title. The title was well deserved...

>
> Oh dear ....


>Shhhh.


What is it, lizard?

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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:35:36 AM UTC-6, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>
> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food
>
> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San
>
> Diego


*Sniperoo

Yes, I tried to point that out before, but was told by the Squartz that I don't know anything about the Mexicans that make up over 50% of the population of where I live, even though he lives 800 to the south of me and does not know me other than on shitty Usenet.

Now I see he is asserting (in another thread, and no I'm not going to go look it up, do it yourself) that Mexicans put out nacho cheese with their horrible "chips" in Mexican restaurants, and that is supposed to be an "upgrade"....LOL....I really wonder about the sanity of people on here.

But I digress.

Whatever.

I think Julie Bove and Sqwertz and Bwwwwwwyyyyyyannnnnnnnn have lost a grip on reality.

>
>
> But, like your Australian example, it definitely works both ways. I was
>
> in Amsterdam on business once on the 4th of July, and I was staying at a
>
> chain hotel, Marriott if I remember correctly. I made the mistake of
>
> eating what they called "an American 4th of July meal" (it was the only
>
> thing on the menu that day). Something that was supposed to be hot dogs,
>
> but wasn't, something that was supposed to be potato salad, but wasn't,
>
> and something that was supposed to be blueberry pie, but _definitely_
>
> wasn't.


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On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:53:53 AM UTC-6, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:06:57 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> > Bryan-TGWWW wrote:

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > Fish for breakfast, and I'm an American.

>
> >

>
> >

>
> >

>
> > BUT....you're turning Japanese, you're really turning Japanese, I

>
> >

>
> > really think so.

>
> >

>
> Back when I was in my mid-twenties and smoked (my version of living with a ferret), I used to have a Fry Daddy, and I fried Mrs. Paul's/Gorton's
>
> fish fillets up for breakfast most days, and I'd douse them with RealLemon.


Wow, fish sticks, a ferret, and a Fry Daddy. No wonder you're such a ****ing whacko. Did you inject methamphetamines, too?



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projektilevomitchick wrote:
>Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food
>> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San
>> Diego

>
>Yes, I tried to point that out before, but was told by the Squartz that
>I don't know anything about the Mexicans that make up over 50% of the
>population of where I live, even though he lives 800 to the south of me
>and does not know me other than on shitty Usenet.
>Now I see he is asserting (in another thread, and no I'm not going to
>go look it up, do it yourself) that Mexicans put out nacho cheese with
>their horrible "chips" in Mexican restaurants, and that is supposed to
>be an "upgrade"....LOL....I really wonder about the sanity of people on here.
>But I digress.
>Whatever.
>I think Julie Bove and Sqwertz and Bwwwwwwyyyyyyannnnnnnnn have lost a grip on reality.


I lived in San Diego for a couple years, there is NO Mexican food
there... NO border food is Mexican food... Mexican's do NOT eat that
Taco Bellish shit. Mexico is a huge country, there is no one Mexican
cusine, but they simply do NOT eat tacos, nachos, chili, burritos, and
that ilk... then you may as well say US Chinese take-out is authentic
Chinese cusine. Julie Bove, Sqwertz, and Bwrrryan haven't the
slightest clue what Mexicans eat... there is NO Mexican food in all of
Texass, NONE! Mexicans don't even eat refried beans, they never
heard of such crap. I've been all through Mexico, regular folks there
mostly eat a lot eggs, chicken, and they eat a LOT of seafood and a
tremendous quantity of fresh veggies and fruit. Mexicans don't eat
anything resembling what Americans think is Mexican food.
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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> projektilevomitchick wrote:
>>Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>>
>>> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food
>>> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San
>>> Diego

>>
>>Yes, I tried to point that out before, but was told by the Squartz that
>>I don't know anything about the Mexicans that make up over 50% of the
>>population of where I live, even though he lives 800 to the south of me
>>and does not know me other than on shitty Usenet.
>>Now I see he is asserting (in another thread, and no I'm not going to
>>go look it up, do it yourself) that Mexicans put out nacho cheese with
>>their horrible "chips" in Mexican restaurants, and that is supposed to
>>be an "upgrade"....LOL....I really wonder about the sanity of people on
>>here.
>>But I digress.
>>Whatever.
>>I think Julie Bove and Sqwertz and Bwwwwwwyyyyyyannnnnnnnn have lost a
>>grip on reality.

>
> I lived in San Diego for a couple years, there is NO Mexican food
> there... NO border food is Mexican food... Mexican's do NOT eat that
> Taco Bellish shit. Mexico is a huge country, there is no one Mexican
> cusine, but they simply do NOT eat tacos, nachos, chili, burritos, and
> that ilk... then you may as well say US Chinese take-out is authentic
> Chinese cusine. Julie Bove, Sqwertz, and Bwrrryan haven't the
> slightest clue what Mexicans eat... there is NO Mexican food in all of
> Texass, NONE! Mexicans don't even eat refried beans, they never
> heard of such crap. I've been all through Mexico, regular folks there
> mostly eat a lot eggs, chicken, and they eat a LOT of seafood and a
> tremendous quantity of fresh veggies and fruit. Mexicans don't eat
> anything resembling what Americans think is Mexican food.


Sheldon you are sooo wrong! Mexicans *do* eat tacos but they are not the
crisp shell kind so frequently eaten here. There are taco stands all over
Mexico. And no, I've never been there but I have seen Rick Bayless where he
and his friends went all over one day trying tacos. Yes, street tacos.
Some places sell them here. Two tiny, soft corn tortillas with meat and
usually pico de gallo. If fish or seafood, they might have cabbage. No
cheese, no creama.

I can't say for sure about the refried beans but I'd be willing to bet that
they do.

We had a Mexican neighbor when I lived in CA. She was worried that she
might get diabetes as all of the older people in her family had it. At the
time, I had been avoiding Mexican restaurants because none of the ones we
had in our area offered salads and usually salads in Mexican places aren't
very good. I like taco salads but a Mexican restaurant is not the place to
get one because it's not really Mexican. From what I have read, salads
aren't even usually eaten in Mexico either. Anyway... I asked her what the
Mexican diabetics ate and she said the same things as everyone else but,
they ate a lot less of the beans, rice and tortillas and increased the
amount of meat like chicken. She also said that when her elders ate out,
they called the restaurant ahead of time and told them that they needed
diabetic meals and special food was prepared for them. But she didn't know
the particulars of that. Also don't know if these people live in Mexico or
the US.

The Mexican place we normally dine at is owned by a guy from Mexico who has
since married a woman from Mexico. His dad owns a restaurant too. I have
met his mom. She still lives in Mexico but when she comes up to visit, she
helps out in the restaurant. He has talked a lot to us about the food,
explaining how some of the food he fixes is different than how his mom fixes
them. Sopitas are one such thing. He said his mom puts so much butter in
hers that you are rolling away from the table after you eat them. His
contain no butter as did the prepared sopita (shells) that I used to be able
to buy at Winco. So no doubt most all Mexican places here, even the ones
that do serve authentic food also sell some American things and some
Americanized versions of things. But some also sell authentic things
including octopus.

I'm also sure that Mexicans who live in Mexico don't always eat strictly
Mexican food either. At least Alfredo didn't. He has described things that
his mom fixed him to eat as a child. Some of which would be considered
American foods. Like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

My husband once said to me as I was reaching for some souvenir to bring back
home, "Don't bother. These days you can get pretty much anything,
anywhere." and he was right. Sure, sometimes you have to go online to get
it but... If we want to eat something that is from a cuisine of another
culture, we can usually get it. Granted, those in the UK might not have as
much access to Mexican foods as we do here and Mexican food is likely not
nearly as common as it is here.

I also think this Mexican food issue is the same sort of thing as chili,
pizza and cornbread. There is no one way to make it and yet sooo many
people want to fight about what is the right way and the authentic way.

You like the food? Your family likes the food? Buy it. Make it. Eat it.
Get over it. No need to classify it. You're not entering it into some
cooking contest, are you?

When I could eat cheese, I made a little casserole type thing with whatever
cheese I had in the house. Yes, even cheddar if that's all I had. Some
form of tomato product, usually chopped with juice. And Italian seasoning.
Nuke until the cheese goes beyond melted and begins to harden. Eat out of
the small casserole. Tastes like pizza! Not pizza. I never claimed it to
be or even authentic Italian. But it tasted good and it was lower in carbs.

I love bean dip. I made my beans from scratch. Pintos, onions, peppers.
Sometimes added celery. Bit of olive oil. Whiz with immersion blender,
leaving some whole beans. Take some out, mix with cheese, heat through and
serve with raw veggies. Preferably chunks of bell pepper if I had them.
Had a Mexican type taste to it and was good to me. And again, lower in
carbs.

I'm going to make something Mexicanish in the next week or two to use up
some flour tortillas that I bought. Forgot that I bought them and then
bought more. Will be sorta like burritos but I won't be folding the ends
over. So rolled like Enchiladas. They'll have beans inside. Likely whole
beans. No cheese inside but for husband and daughter I will put cheese on
top. I will bake them through with some sort of sauce on top. Or maybe
I'll just do two pans. One with cheese inside and one without. That might
work better. Probably enchilada sauce on one half and salsa verde on the
other. Top with a mess of white onion and green pepper. It will taste
Mexicanish and it will be something the whole family can eat. I don't care
if it's authentic or not. I have no need to classify my food.


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>
>
> What is it, lizard?
>
>


I don't _think_ it was, but I guess it could have been. No, it was
"dragon" simply because whoever ate it was breathing fire for quite some
time afterwards...
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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> You like the food? Your family likes the food? Buy it. Make it. Eat
> it. Get over it. No need to classify it. You're not entering it into
> some cooking contest, are you?



My feelings exactly.

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On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:07:39 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> This American food thing got me to thinking.
> So did you have any false conceptions of foods that are eaten in other
> countries? Or heard of any such things?


One thing that comes to mind is 'Canadian Bacon'. We call it back bacon here, and it's not served as a breakfast meat in many restaurants. Unless you order eggs benedict. I prefer regular bacon, and I think most Canadians prefer regular bacon. I haven't had back bacon for years. Same with poutine. To make a proper poutine, you need to have very fresh cheese curds, and a proper gravy. The lower end restaurants(fast food places)do not bother with doing it properly.


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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:50:15 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> projektilevomitchick wrote:
>
> >Alan Holbrook wrote:

>
> >>

>
> >> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food

>
> >> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San

>
> >> Diego

>
> >

>
> >Yes, I tried to point that out before, but was told by the Squartz that

>
> >I don't know anything about the Mexicans that make up over 50% of the

>
> >population of where I live, even though he lives 800 to the south of me

>
> >and does not know me other than on shitty Usenet.

>
> >Now I see he is asserting (in another thread, and no I'm not going to

>
> >go look it up, do it yourself) that Mexicans put out nacho cheese with

>
> >their horrible "chips" in Mexican restaurants, and that is supposed to

>
> >be an "upgrade"....LOL....I really wonder about the sanity of people on here.

>
> >But I digress.

>
> >Whatever.

>
> >I think Julie Bove and Sqwertz and Bwwwwwwyyyyyyannnnnnnnn have lost a grip on reality.

>
>
>
> I lived in San Diego for a couple years, there is NO Mexican food
>
> there... NO border food is Mexican food... Mexican's do NOT eat that
>
> Taco Bellish shit. Mexico is a huge country, there is no one Mexican
>
> cusine, but they simply do NOT eat tacos, nachos, chili, burritos, and
>
> that ilk... then you may as well say US Chinese take-out is authentic
>
> Chinese cusine. Julie Bove, Sqwertz, and Bwrrryan haven't the
>
> slightest clue what Mexicans eat... there is NO Mexican food in all of
>
> Texass, NONE! Mexicans don't even eat refried beans, they never
>
> heard of such crap. I've been all through Mexico, regular folks there
>
> mostly eat a lot eggs, chicken, and they eat a LOT of seafood and a
>
> tremendous quantity of fresh veggies and fruit. Mexicans don't eat
>
> anything resembling what Americans think is Mexican food.


Refried beans? They are beans that have been fried only once. Mashed up of course. I don't think I ever had frijoles refritos in Mexico, although I had it up to the ears with that stuff in Guatemala.
As for tacos, yes Mexicans do eat tacos. I've seen this phenomenon many times.
Best shrimp soup I ever had was at a market(a market where mostly locals go, and tourists in the know)in Acapulco.
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:50:15 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:>
> I lived in San Diego for a couple years, there is NO Mexican food
>
> there... NO border food is Mexican food... Mexican's do NOT eat that
>
> Taco Bellish shit. Mexico is a huge country, there is no one Mexican
>
> cusine, but they simply do NOT eat tacos, nachos, chili, burritos, and
>
> that ilk... then you may as well say US Chinese take-out is authentic
>
> Chinese cusine. Julie Bove, Sqwertz, and Bwrrryan haven't the
>
> slightest clue what Mexicans eat... there is NO Mexican food in all of
>
> Texass, NONE! Mexicans don't even eat refried beans, they never
>
> heard of such crap. I've been all through Mexico, regular folks there
>
> mostly eat a lot eggs, chicken, and they eat a LOT of seafood and a
>
> tremendous quantity of fresh veggies and fruit. Mexicans don't eat
>
> anything resembling what Americans think is Mexican food.


This is true.
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:25:06 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > projektilevomitchick wrote:

>
> >>Alan Holbrook wrote:

>
> >>>

>
> >>> To your point, I have a great deal of trouble taking most "Mexican" food

>
> >>> seriously after being directed to a couple of authentic places in San

>
> >>> Diego

>
> >>

>
> >>Yes, I tried to point that out before, but was told by the Squartz that

>
> >>I don't know anything about the Mexicans that make up over 50% of the

>
> >>population of where I live, even though he lives 800 to the south of me

>
> >>and does not know me other than on shitty Usenet.

>
> >>Now I see he is asserting (in another thread, and no I'm not going to

>
> >>go look it up, do it yourself) that Mexicans put out nacho cheese with

>
> >>their horrible "chips" in Mexican restaurants, and that is supposed to

>
> >>be an "upgrade"....LOL....I really wonder about the sanity of people on

>
> >>here.

>
> >>But I digress.

>
> >>Whatever.

>
> >>I think Julie Bove and Sqwertz and Bwwwwwwyyyyyyannnnnnnnn have lost a

>
> >>grip on reality.

>
> >

>
> > I lived in San Diego for a couple years, there is NO Mexican food

>
> > there... NO border food is Mexican food... Mexican's do NOT eat that

>
> > Taco Bellish shit. Mexico is a huge country, there is no one Mexican

>
> > cusine, but they simply do NOT eat tacos, nachos, chili, burritos, and

>
> > that ilk... then you may as well say US Chinese take-out is authentic

>
> > Chinese cusine. Julie Bove, Sqwertz, and Bwrrryan haven't the

>
> > slightest clue what Mexicans eat... there is NO Mexican food in all of

>
> > Texass, NONE! Mexicans don't even eat refried beans, they never

>
> > heard of such crap. I've been all through Mexico, regular folks there

>
> > mostly eat a lot eggs, chicken, and they eat a LOT of seafood and a

>
> > tremendous quantity of fresh veggies and fruit. Mexicans don't eat

>
> > anything resembling what Americans think is Mexican food.

>
>
>
> Sheldon you are sooo wrong! Mexicans *do* eat tacos but they are not the
>
> crisp shell kind so frequently eaten here. There are taco stands all over
>
> Mexico. And no, I've never been there but I have seen Rick Bayless where he
>
> and his friends went all over one day trying tacos. Yes, street tacos.
>
> Some places sell them here. Two tiny, soft corn tortillas with meat and
>
> usually pico de gallo. If fish or seafood, they might have cabbage. No
>
> cheese, no creama.
>
>
>
> I can't say for sure about the refried beans but I'd be willing to bet that
>
> they do.
>
>
>
> We had a Mexican neighbor when I lived in CA. She was worried that she
>
> might get diabetes as all of the older people in her family had it. At the
>
> time, I had been avoiding Mexican restaurants because none of the ones we
>
> had in our area offered salads and usually salads in Mexican places aren't
>
> very good. I like taco salads but a Mexican restaurant is not the place to
>
> get one because it's not really Mexican. From what I have read, salads
>
> aren't even usually eaten in Mexico either. Anyway... I asked her what the
>
> Mexican diabetics ate and she said the same things as everyone else but,
>
> they ate a lot less of the beans, rice and tortillas and increased the
>
> amount of meat like chicken. She also said that when her elders ate out,
>
> they called the restaurant ahead of time and told them that they needed
>
> diabetic meals and special food was prepared for them. But she didn't know
>
> the particulars of that. Also don't know if these people live in Mexico or
>
> the US.
>
>
>
> The Mexican place we normally dine at is owned by a guy from Mexico who has
>
> since married a woman from Mexico. His dad owns a restaurant too. I have
>
> met his mom. She still lives in Mexico but when she comes up to visit, she
>
> helps out in the restaurant. He has talked a lot to us about the food,
>
> explaining how some of the food he fixes is different than how his mom fixes
>
> them. Sopitas are one such thing. He said his mom puts so much butter in
>
> hers that you are rolling away from the table after you eat them. His
>
> contain no butter as did the prepared sopita (shells) that I used to be able
>
> to buy at Winco. So no doubt most all Mexican places here, even the ones
>
> that do serve authentic food also sell some American things and some
>
> Americanized versions of things. But some also sell authentic things
>
> including octopus.
>
>
>
> I'm also sure that Mexicans who live in Mexico don't always eat strictly
>
> Mexican food either. At least Alfredo didn't. He has described things that
>
> his mom fixed him to eat as a child. Some of which would be considered
>
> American foods. Like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
>
>
>
> My husband once said to me as I was reaching for some souvenir to bring back
>
> home, "Don't bother. These days you can get pretty much anything,
>
> anywhere." and he was right. Sure, sometimes you have to go online to get
>
> it but... If we want to eat something that is from a cuisine of another
>
> culture, we can usually get it. Granted, those in the UK might not have as
>
> much access to Mexican foods as we do here and Mexican food is likely not
>
> nearly as common as it is here.
>
>
>
> I also think this Mexican food issue is the same sort of thing as chili,
>
> pizza and cornbread. There is no one way to make it and yet sooo many
>
> people want to fight about what is the right way and the authentic way.
>
>
>
> You like the food? Your family likes the food? Buy it. Make it. Eat it.
>
> Get over it. No need to classify it. You're not entering it into some
>
> cooking contest, are you?
>
>
>
> When I could eat cheese, I made a little casserole type thing with whatever
>
> cheese I had in the house. Yes, even cheddar if that's all I had. Some
>
> form of tomato product, usually chopped with juice. And Italian seasoning.
>
> Nuke until the cheese goes beyond melted and begins to harden. Eat out of
>
> the small casserole. Tastes like pizza! Not pizza. I never claimed it to
>
> be or even authentic Italian. But it tasted good and it was lower in carbs.
>
>
>
> I love bean dip. I made my beans from scratch. Pintos, onions, peppers.
>
> Sometimes added celery. Bit of olive oil. Whiz with immersion blender,
>
> leaving some whole beans. Take some out, mix with cheese, heat through and
>
> serve with raw veggies. Preferably chunks of bell pepper if I had them.
>
> Had a Mexican type taste to it and was good to me. And again, lower in
>
> carbs.
>
>
>
> I'm going to make something Mexicanish in the next week or two to use up
>
> some flour tortillas that I bought. Forgot that I bought them and then
>
> bought more. Will be sorta like burritos but I won't be folding the ends
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> over. So rolled like Enchiladas. They'll have beans inside. Likely whole
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> beans. No cheese inside but for husband and daughter I will put cheese on
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> top. I will bake them through with some sort of sauce on top. Or maybe
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> I'll just do two pans. One with cheese inside and one without. That might
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> work better. Probably enchilada sauce on one half and salsa verde on the
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> other. Top with a mess of white onion and green pepper. It will taste
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> Mexicanish and it will be something the whole family can eat. I don't care
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> if it's authentic or not. I have no need to classify my food.


What a ****ing idiot.
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On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:56:56 AM UTC-6, A Moose in Love wrote:
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> Refried beans? They are beans that have been fried only once. Mashed up of course. I don't think I ever had frijoles refritos in Mexico, although I had it up to the ears with that stuff in Guatemala.


Mexicans get pretty upset if you confuse them with Central Americans. And Mexicans don't eat refried beans.

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> As for tacos, yes Mexicans do eat tacos. I've seen this phenomenon many times.


No, they don't.

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> Best shrimp soup I ever had was at a market(a market where mostly locals go, and tourists in the know)in Acapulco.


They probably ****ed in it. LOL
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:33:57 AM UTC-6, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 1/29/2014 9:42 AM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
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> >> And I'm also sure that anyone who thinks the British only like bland

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> >> cooking aren't aware of the national obsession for Indian and Indonesian

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> >> fare. The people in the Bristol office had a rite of passage for all

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> >> American visitors from headquarters that involved being taken to lunch at

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> >> an Indonesian place and fed something that had the word 'Dragon' in the

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> >> title. The title was well deserved...

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> Note to self: stay away from the people in Bristol.
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> > And the reverse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdo79znnHl8

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> Hilarious.


Sweet!
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