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On 12/5/2013 7:14 AM, Janet wrote:

> Not at all, there's still a huge community in Britain though different
> groups use different names; some still call themselves gypsies and
> others, travellers. Mac preferred tinker because he regarded his trade
> as a part of the traditional "mending pots and pans" tinker tradition.
> They still have annual fairs,
>
> http://www.applebyfair.org/
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There's an excellent book out on them - "The Summer Walkers".

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On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:26:41 AM UTC-8, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 10:10 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
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> > On 12/4/13 8:28 PM, Kalmia wrote:

>
> >> You remember a traveling TINKER? I though those went out with the
> >> 'Pride and Prejudice' gang.

>
> > We had one in NJ into the early 1960's.

>
> The short guy with the dramatic mustache?


You mean Jerry Colonna?

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Kalmia wrote:
> I hang my head in shame - a 92 year old putting on a big meal? And
> me afraid to have a neighbor over for LUNCH? I am in awe of your
> aunt and you tell her I said so. God bless 'er.


Thank you, and I agree. We offered to come down early on Thanksgiving
Day to help - she's about a 2 or 2-1/2 hour drive away from us - and she
said not to because she'd have everything prepared the night before and
all that was left was to put it in the oven. Unfortunately, because of
work, we couldn't come down the night before.

Her mother lived to be just shy of 97 years old, so I'm hoping we have
her around for many more years to come.

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On 2013-12-05 05:32:35 +0000, sf said:

>> No Mr. sf? Or he just does not snap to your tune?

>
> Nope, that's not an issue. He's not a handyman. Never has been,
> never will be. We pay people to do manual labor.


A man after my own heart. Or skills.

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In article <2013120508094163538-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr > wrote:
>On 2013-12-05 05:32:35 +0000, sf said:
>
>>> No Mr. sf? Or he just does not snap to your tune?

>>
>> Nope, that's not an issue. He's not a handyman. Never has been,
>> never will be. We pay people to do manual labor.

>
>A man after my own heart. Or skills.
>


Huh. My husband can do anything that doesn't involve mud.
Design and build, plumbing, electrical, electronic, cooking,
cleaning, sewing, small engines, lasers, you name it.

His work with anything resembling mud (drywall finishing,
mortar, concrete) is not so good. He just doesn't know
when to walk away.

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization
is for insects.
--Robert A. Heinlein

I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
another one like him.

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On 12/4/2013 10:29 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:29:16 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/4/2013 4:35 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:24:45 -0700, Teh Lamester
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh yea, but they say you're the kook and also a stalker.
>>>
>>> It's typical republican type game playing.
>>>

>> Cheney is behind it, you can just sense it...

>
> Cheney is too busy dealing with problems of his own biological
> creation at the moment.
>

Wot, she won't rule Wyoming where men are men and sheep are nervous?


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On 12/5/2013 5:26 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 10:10 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
>> On 12/4/13 8:28 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>> You remember a traveling TINKER? I though those went out with the
>>> 'Pride and Prejudice' gang.

>>
>> We had one in NJ into the early 1960's.
>>

> The short guy with the dramatic mustache?
>

That's Walt Bodine, iirc..
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On 12/5/2013 9:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
> another one like him.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
> --


You need to google Angie's List...


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In article >,
Pearl F. Buck > wrote:
>On 12/5/2013 9:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
>> another one like him.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>> --

>
>You need to google Angie's List...


If I were widowed, I should look for a new husband on Angie's list?

Whoda thunk it?

It's not that I want free labor. God knows, everything he does,
I'm right there helping him, so our sweat equity is fairly earned.
I'd miss the brain that makes him good at all of those disparate
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On 12/5/2013 10:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> In article >,
> Pearl F. Buck > wrote:
>> On 12/5/2013 9:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
>>> another one like him.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>> --

>>
>> You need to google Angie's List...

>
> If I were widowed, I should look for a new husband on Angie's list?
>
> Whoda thunk it?


Lots of good recommendations of men with skills who have satisfied
women, it's a natural, imo.


> It's not that I want free labor. God knows, everything he does,
> I'm right there helping him, so our sweat equity is fairly earned.
> I'd miss the brain that makes him good at all of those disparate
> things.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I get that, just having some fun with you ;-)

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> In article <2013120508094163538-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr > wrote:
>>On 2013-12-05 05:32:35 +0000, sf said:
>>
>>>> No Mr. sf? Or he just does not snap to your tune?
>>>
>>> Nope, that's not an issue. He's not a handyman. Never has been,
>>> never will be. We pay people to do manual labor.

>>
>>A man after my own heart. Or skills.
>>

>
> Huh. My husband can do anything that doesn't involve mud.
> Design and build, plumbing, electrical, electronic, cooking,
> cleaning, sewing, small engines, lasers, you name it.
>
> His work with anything resembling mud (drywall finishing,
> mortar, concrete) is not so good. He just doesn't know
> when to walk away.
>
> A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a
> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization
> is for insects.
> --Robert A. Heinlein
>
> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
> another one like him.


Exactly the same for me with mine )))


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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> Pearl F. Buck > wrote:
>>On 12/5/2013 9:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
>>> another one like him.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>> --

>>
>>You need to google Angie's List...

>
> If I were widowed, I should look for a new husband on Angie's list?
>
> Whoda thunk it?
>
> It's not that I want free labor. God knows, everything he does,
> I'm right there helping him, so our sweat equity is fairly earned.
> I'd miss the brain that makes him good at all of those disparate
> things.


*suspicious look*

You haven't got my husband on the side have you?????


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On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:02:42 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> wrote:

> On 12/5/2013 10:59 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:21:58 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Frigging capitalists!
> >>

> > You nailed it!
> >

> Lol.
>
> Unrepentant too I wager ;-)


No regrets so far. We do our part to keep the economy in motion.


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:02:42 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/5/2013 10:59 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:21:58 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Frigging capitalists!
>> >>
>> > You nailed it!
>> >

>> Lol.
>>
>> Unrepentant too I wager ;-)

>
> No regrets so far. We do our part to keep the economy in motion.
>


uphill rather than the downward spiral, I hope!


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On 12/5/2013 11:12 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:02:42 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/5/2013 10:59 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:21:58 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frigging capitalists!
>>>>
>>> You nailed it!
>>>

>> Lol.
>>
>> Unrepentant too I wager ;-)

>
> No regrets so far. We do our part to keep the economy in motion.
>
>

That literally is pure patriotism.
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> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:02:42 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/5/2013 10:59 AM, sf wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:21:58 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Frigging capitalists!
> >> >>
> >> > You nailed it!
> >> >
> >> Lol.
> >>
> >> Unrepentant too I wager ;-)

> >
> > No regrets so far. We do our part to keep the economy in motion.
> >

>
> uphill rather than the downward spiral, I hope!
>


We pay significantly above minimum wage, so I certainly hope so!

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On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:48:35 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> wrote:

> On 12/5/2013 11:12 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:02:42 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/5/2013 10:59 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:21:58 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Frigging capitalists!
> >>>>
> >>> You nailed it!
> >>>
> >> Lol.
> >>
> >> Unrepentant too I wager ;-)

> >
> > No regrets so far. We do our part to keep the economy in motion.
> >
> >

> That literally is pure patriotism.


Hand on heart and humming the Star Spangled Banner with the flag
wrapped around my shoulders. (chilly morning) sf - DAR

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On 12/5/2013 11:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:48:35 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/5/2013 11:12 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:02:42 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/5/2013 10:59 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:21:58 -0700, "Pearl F. Buck"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frigging capitalists!
>>>>>>
>>>>> You nailed it!
>>>>>
>>>> Lol.
>>>>
>>>> Unrepentant too I wager ;-)
>>>
>>> No regrets so far. We do our part to keep the economy in motion.
>>>
>>>

>> That literally is pure patriotism.

>
> Hand on heart and humming the Star Spangled Banner with the flag
> wrapped around my shoulders. (chilly morning) sf - DAR
>

Right on!
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sf wrote:
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> We pay people to do manual labor.


I love it! ;-D

G.
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On 2013-12-05 12:56 PM, sf wrote:

>>>> Nope, that's not an issue. He's not a handyman. Never has been,
>>>> never will be. We pay people to do manual labor.
>>>
>>> A man after my own heart. Or skills.
>>>

>>
>> Huh. My husband can do anything that doesn't involve mud.
>> Design and build, plumbing, electrical, electronic, cooking,
>> cleaning, sewing, small engines, lasers, you name it.
>>
>>
>> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
>> another one like him.
>>

> My son is like that (he cooks too) and his wife feels the same way
> about him.




My father was a handyman who could do just about anything. Having grown
up on a farm and training as an aircraft mechanic in the war, before
remustering to air crew, he learned to fix just about anything with
anything. He was not much of a cook. I did not inherit a lot of his
mechanical skills, but my mother's father was a great cook and my
brothers and I all seemed to have inherited that ability. We can all cook.

When my wife was working I cooked almost all the meals. I even did most
of the cooking after she retired. She took over all the cooking duties
after I had heavy duty surgery. I have to confess that I sort of enjoyed
her cooking for me. She was starting to get pretty good at it so I did
not want to discourage it. It is only over the last couple months that I
started taking over in the kitchen. Three weeks ago she sprained her
ankle really badly and I am back to doing it all.

.....reminds me.... I have to go put the chicken legs into the oven.

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Ophelia wrote:
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> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote:
> > I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
> > another one like him.

>
> Exactly the same for me with mine )))


And then there's me. Divorced for about 25 years now. I never
remarried because I was afraid that I *would* find another just like
her. heheh

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> ....reminds me.... I have to go put the chicken legs into the oven.


Heh. It keeps you busy.

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On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:39:28 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Cindy Hamilton" wrote:
> > > I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
> > > another one like him.

> >
> > Exactly the same for me with mine )))

>
> And then there's me. Divorced for about 25 years now. I never
> remarried because I was afraid that I *would* find another just like
> her. heheh
>


It always seems to be the case, doesn't it? Glad you kept your wits
about you, because I've seen train wrecks like that happen.

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On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:43:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
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> > We pay people to do manual labor.

>
> I love it! ;-D
>


You know what Bill Cosby said? If you can throw money at a problem
and fix it, it's not a problem. I agree with him.

There are people out there that can do jobs a lot better and a lot
faster, so why not hire them and have it done right the first time?

We have spent tens of thousands undoing the MESS in this house created
by some guy who thought he was a handyman. He loved making little
rooms out of big rooms.

Hubby has done handyman things. When we were younger, he and a couple
of buddies built a house for spec and did a lot of the work
themselves. Fast forward a few years... he installed the bamboo floor
when we remodeled the downstairs. It wasn't super easy, because it
was a large area split into a living room and U shaped kitchen/bar
(with peninsula) + dining area separated by a fireplace.... quite a
bit of real estate, lots of corners and it had a contrasting boarder
set in from the wall. Took him at least three times longer than it
would have if we'd hired someone, but he did a really good job. A few
years later, we hired someone to put in the kitchen floor upstairs
(easier job - no boarder), because he had learned from experience that
he'd rather pay someone to do it.

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On 2013-12-05 22:39:28 +0000, Gary said:

> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote:
>>> I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
>>> another one like him.

>>
>> Exactly the same for me with mine )))

>
> And then there's me. Divorced for about 25 years now. I never
> remarried because I was afraid that I *would* find another just like
> her. heheh


I'm not handy in the least. I can barely operate a screwdriver and feel
no shame. Instead I can play damn near any musical instrument, chat
with anybody about anything and get laughs in almost any setting. I'm a
pretty good photographer, film maker, writer, poet, actor, bon vivant
and raconteur.

Certainly being entertaining doesn't get the respect, or the shekles,
that plumbers and carpenters do. I can live with that.

Oh--and I can diagram sentences too!

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On 12/5/2013 4:50 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:43:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> We pay people to do manual labor.

>>
>> I love it! ;-D
>>

>
> You know what Bill Cosby said? If you can throw money at a problem
> and fix it, it's not a problem. I agree with him.
>
> There are people out there that can do jobs a lot better and a lot
> faster, so why not hire them and have it done right the first time?
>
> We have spent tens of thousands undoing the MESS in this house created
> by some guy who thought he was a handyman. He loved making little
> rooms out of big rooms.
>
> Hubby has done handyman things. When we were younger, he and a couple
> of buddies built a house for spec and did a lot of the work
> themselves. Fast forward a few years... he installed the bamboo floor
> when we remodeled the downstairs. It wasn't super easy, because it
> was a large area split into a living room and U shaped kitchen/bar
> (with peninsula) + dining area separated by a fireplace.... quite a
> bit of real estate, lots of corners and it had a contrasting boarder
> set in from the wall. Took him at least three times longer than it
> would have if we'd hired someone, but he did a really good job. A few
> years later, we hired someone to put in the kitchen floor upstairs
> (easier job - no boarder), because he had learned from experience that
> he'd rather pay someone to do it.
>

He's not just learning, he's evolving!
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>> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote:
>> > I've often said I will never remarry, because I could never find
>> > another one like him.

>>
>> Exactly the same for me with mine )))

>
> And then there's me. Divorced for about 25 years now. I never
> remarried because I was afraid that I *would* find another just like
> her. heheh


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