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I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea
condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:12:58 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > .. Let us know how it performs vs. the full fat stuff. What are you planning to use it in? WE WANNA REPORT. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:38:07 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote: >On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:12:58 AM UTC-5, sf wrote: >> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >> >> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >> >> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >> >> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >> >. > >Let us know how it performs vs. the full fat stuff. What are you planning to use it in? WE WANNA REPORT. I think that I read or heard somewhere that sauces will break if not using full fat milk. Has anyone else heard or experienced this? Janet US |
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sf wrote:
> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg I don't mean to start a flame war, but what reason is there not to use a full-fat milk product? -S- |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:38:07 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote: > On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:12:58 AM UTC-5, sf wrote: > > I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > > > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > > > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > > > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > > . > > Let us know how it performs vs. the full fat stuff. What are you planning to use it in? WE WANNA REPORT. Heh. I haven't thought ahead that far yet. If I do find a lower fat version, I might be persuaded to attempt making a Tres Leches cake... which is something I've wanted to try - but they are so darned rich! -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:21:27 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
wrote: > sf wrote: > > > I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > I don't mean to start a flame war, but what reason is there not to use a > full-fat milk product? > I don't want all that fat. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:54:43 AM UTC-5, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:38:07 -0800 (PST), Kalmia > > > wrote: > > > > >On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:12:58 AM UTC-5, sf wrote: > > >> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > >> > > >> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > >> > > >> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > >> > > >> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > >> > > >. > > > > > >Let us know how it performs vs. the full fat stuff. What are you planning to use it in? WE WANNA REPORT. > > > > I think that I read or heard somewhere that sauces will break if not > > using full fat milk. Has anyone else heard or experienced this? > Yes. I used a fat free sour cream in a sauce and it turned to something like splinters. |
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sf wrote:
> > I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg Is this to make a dessert? Like pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving? Unless you use something like that often, you should stick to the full fat version, imo. If it's only an occasional holiday dessert, I'd go for full flavor. You might get by with the low fat but the non-fat will definitely leave you with a loss of flavor/quality. G. |
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On 11/14/2013 1:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote: >> >> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > Is this to make a dessert? Like pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving? > Unless you use something like that often, you should stick to the full > fat version, imo. If it's only an occasional holiday dessert, I'd go > for full flavor. You might get by with the low fat but the non-fat > will definitely leave you with a loss of flavor/quality. > I won't argue about condensed milk but, after many years using non-fat or skim milk on my cereal, I can drink such milk without nausea while regular full-fat milk tastes unpleasant. However, even non-fat milk is much improved if I drink it with something sweet. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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On 2013-11-14, James Silverton > wrote:
> I won't argue about condensed milk but, after many years using non-fat > or skim milk on my cereal, I can drink such milk without nausea while > regular full-fat milk tastes unpleasant. However, even non-fat milk is > much improved if I drink it with something sweet. I don't even drink milk, anymore. If a want a moo-juice facsimile, I buy almond milk. Better than soy milk, which is horrible. 8P nb |
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On 2013-11-14 12:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:21:27 -0500, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >> sf wrote: >> >>> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >>> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >>> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >>> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >> >> I don't mean to start a flame war, but what reason is there not to use a >> full-fat milk product? >> > I don't want all that fat. > I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of things to worry about. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:09:52 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote: > I used a fat free sour cream in a sauce and it turned to something like splinters. I don't have that experience with fat free sour cream, but I use it to finish a flour based gravy not as the only ingredient. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:28:35 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> sf wrote: > > > > I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > Is this to make a dessert? Like pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving? > Unless you use something like that often, you should stick to the full > fat version, imo. If it's only an occasional holiday dessert, I'd go > for full flavor. You might get by with the low fat but the non-fat > will definitely leave you with a loss of flavor/quality. > I sincerely doubt that with a dessert. Sweetened condensed milk adds sugar, not flavor. I can't think of anything that I would be missing from coconut macaroons, bar cookies, key lime pie, tres leches cake or even Thai tea if I used the low or no fat version. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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Kalmia wrote:
> > Yes. I used a fat free sour cream in a sauce and it turned to something like splinters. Not often, but occasionally I enjoy a bowl of fat free splinters. ;) G. |
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In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote: >> >I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given >the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of >things to worry about. Really? You don't have Pet milk in Canada? Wait, there's a Stan Rogers lyric that talks about a ranch wife pouring "Carnation from the can", IIRC into her coffee. I'm pretty sure that means regular evaporated milk. Plus, lots of people say "condensed" when they mean "evaporated". It's usually easy to tell from context what the mean. Cindy Hamilton -- |
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On 2013-11-14 4:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> In article >, > Dave Smith > wrote: >>> >> I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given >> the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of >> things to worry about. > > Really? You don't have Pet milk in Canada? I don't think we do. We have Carnation evaporated milk. I Googled it and found Pet Evaportated milk. > > Wait, there's a Stan Rogers lyric that talks about a ranch > wife pouring "Carnation from the can", IIRC into her coffee. > I'm pretty sure that means regular evaporated milk. Yep.... evaporated milk. > > Plus, lots of people say "condensed" when they mean "evaporated". It's > usually easy to tell from context what the mean. > I can't speak for those who may be confused. Evaporated milk in my world is condensed only in that it has had a lot of the water removed from it to make is shelf stable, weigh less and take up less space. Some people like it in coffee. I have no use for it myself. Condensed milk is an entirely different product, something very rich and creamy and used in cooking. |
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On 11/14/2013 3:46 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:09:52 -0800 (PST), Kalmia > > wrote: > >> I used a fat free sour cream in a sauce and it turned to something like splinters. > > I don't have that experience with fat free sour cream, but I use it to > finish a flour based gravy not as the only ingredient. > Yes, the addition of a teaspoon or so of plain flour or gram flour makes fat-free sour cream or yoghurt work quite well. You don't want to boil the sauce but simmering is fine. I resent those Indian cooks who say "Don't use fat-free"; they obviously have never tried flour. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:09:52 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote: >On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:54:43 AM UTC-5, Janet Bostwick wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:38:07 -0800 (PST), Kalmia >> snip >> >> I think that I read or heard somewhere that sauces will break if not >> >> using full fat milk. Has anyone else heard or experienced this? >> > >Yes. I used a fat free sour cream in a sauce and it turned to something like splinters. That sounds ugly. I guess I'll skip the fat-free sour cream for a sauce. Thanks Janet US |
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On Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:53:43 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Kalmia wrote: > > > > > > Yes. I used a fat free sour cream in a sauce and it turned to something like splinters. > > > > Not often, but occasionally I enjoy a bowl of fat free splinters. ;) > > > > G. After a glass of wine, I just couldn't remember 'metal filings.' |
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On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:40:03 PM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
> I don't even drink milk, anymore. If a want a moo-juice facsimile, I > > buy almond milk. Better than soy milk, which is horrible. 8P I agree. I don't use much dairy anymore and for any milk needed I usually use coconut milk instead of soy. Soy milk is terrible tasting and not very good for you IMHO. |
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On 11/14/2013 4:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> In article >, > Dave Smith > wrote: >>> >> I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given >> the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of >> things to worry about. > > Really? You don't have Pet milk in Canada? > > Wait, there's a Stan Rogers lyric that talks about a ranch > wife pouring "Carnation from the can", IIRC into her coffee. > I'm pretty sure that means regular evaporated milk. > > Plus, lots of people say "condensed" when they mean "evaporated". It's > usually easy to tell from context what the mean. > > Cindy Hamilton > sf posted a link with pictures of sweetened condensed milk, though. So she's not talking about evaporated milk. Jill |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... >I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg I knew but haven't bought that stuff for years. I always kept a can when Angela was little in case we ran out of milk. But now I can get shelf stable milk so no need. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... >I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > That takes me back to my student days 50 yrs ago (gasp!). During the winter months, we'd keep the opened can of condensed milk (bought for out 11pm coffee sessions) on the window sill. After a day or two, a crust would form - delicious!!! Graham |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2013-11-14 12:17 PM, sf wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:21:27 -0500, "Steve Freides" > >> wrote: >> >>> sf wrote: >>> >>>> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >>>> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >>>> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >>>> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >>> >>> I don't mean to start a flame war, but what reason is there not to use a >>> full-fat milk product? >>> >> I don't want all that fat. >> > I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given > the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of > things to worry about. Perhaps she meant evaporated milk which is what I assumed that she meant. The same but no sweetener. |
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"James Silverton" > wrote in message ... > I won't argue about condensed milk but, after many years using non-fat or > skim milk on my cereal, I can drink such milk without nausea while regular > full-fat milk tastes unpleasant. However, even non-fat milk is much > improved if I drink it with something sweet. AFAIK I never had full fat milk although I have bought small amounts of it over the years for various recipes. Growing up, we only ever had 2% or powdered which I think was either skim or non-fat. My one grandma did have a cow or two and did use the resulting products but I don't remember ever having milk at her house. Did have ice cream and butter though. So when you are used to having the lower fat stuff, the real stuff can be quite a shock to the system. My 5th grade class went to a camp and we were served cold cereal with real cream. I found the cream to be so vile, I wanted to cry. Whereas the other kids were excited about it because they never got cream at home. I wound up eating my cereal dry which is how if I eat it now (which would be rarely), I eat it. |
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"ImStillMags" > wrote in message ... > On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:40:03 PM UTC-8, notbob wrote: >> I don't even drink milk, anymore. If a want a moo-juice facsimile, I >> >> buy almond milk. Better than soy milk, which is horrible. 8P > > > > I agree. I don't use much dairy anymore and for any milk needed I usually > use coconut milk instead of soy. Soy milk is terrible tasting and not > very good for you IMHO. I use rice milk occasionally for various things. But it is high in carbs so I try not to use it often. I would use hemp milk but husband is against the use of hemp products because they could show up in a negative way on a drug test. Most of the time I find that water is a good sub for milk. I make my mashed potatoes that way. I do add a little extra Nucoa, salt and pepper for flavor. And they are even better with caramelized onions! |
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We've wandered off the OP here. I frequently use fat-free or thereabouts
condensed milk. Calories and fat are of a concern to us. Pudding - lemon, chocolate and banana - do just as well with fat-free condensed milk. May even try it with a butterscotch / praline. This year's pecans are grander than ever. Polly |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:35:22 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... > > On 2013-11-14 12:17 PM, sf wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:21:27 -0500, "Steve Freides" > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> sf wrote: > >>> > >>>> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > >>>> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > >>>> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > >>>> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > >>> > >>> I don't mean to start a flame war, but what reason is there not to use a > >>> full-fat milk product? > >>> > >> I don't want all that fat. > >> > > I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given > > the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of > > things to worry about. > > Perhaps she meant evaporated milk which is what I assumed that she meant. > The same but no sweetener. Did you bother to open the image link I posted? Obviously not! -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:46:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > >I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > I knew but haven't bought that stuff for years. I always kept a can when > Angela was little in case we ran out of milk. But now I can get shelf > stable milk so no need. Again, did you open the image link? They offer both low fat and no-fat sweetened condensed milk now -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:30:54 -0700, "graham" > wrote:
> > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > >I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg > > > That takes me back to my student days 50 yrs ago (gasp!). During the winter > months, we'd keep the opened can of condensed milk (bought for out 11pm > coffee sessions) on the window sill. After a day or two, a crust would > form - delicious!!! That's interesting... I haven't used that stuff to even think about putting it outside on a windowsill, ever... but I've put cheap wine out there when I was in college. Does that count? -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:35:22 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On 2013-11-14 12:17 PM, sf wrote: >> >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:21:27 -0500, "Steve Freides" > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> sf wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >> >>>> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >> >>>> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >> >>>> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >> >>> >> >>> I don't mean to start a flame war, but what reason is there not to >> >>> use a >> >>> full-fat milk product? >> >>> >> >> I don't want all that fat. >> >> >> > I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. >> > given >> > the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of >> > things to worry about. >> >> Perhaps she meant evaporated milk which is what I assumed that she meant. >> The same but no sweetener. > > Did you bother to open the image link I posted? Obviously not! Nope. Didn't look at the link. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:46:44 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> >I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >> > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >> > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >> > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >> >> I knew but haven't bought that stuff for years. I always kept a can when >> Angela was little in case we ran out of milk. But now I can get shelf >> stable milk so no need. > > Again, did you open the image link? They offer both low fat and > no-fat sweetened condensed milk now Nope. My bad. Twas evaporated that I bought and not sweetened, condensed. I only used that for candy. But I wouldn't use low or no fat. |
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On 11/14/2013 2:28 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:40:03 PM UTC-8, notbob wrote: >> I don't even drink milk, anymore. If a want a moo-juice facsimile, I >> >> buy almond milk. Better than soy milk, which is horrible. 8P > > > > I agree. I don't use much dairy anymore and for any milk needed I usually use coconut milk instead of soy. Soy milk is terrible tasting and not very good for you IMHO. > There's a guy here that makes a soy milk custard at his restaurant that doesn't have a beany, hay-like, taste. It looks and tastes like the freshest cream. It's the only dessert that I order at his Chinese restaurant. As far as I know, nobody else makes this dessert. I've asked him about it but have learned zero. Making soy milk not taste like soy milk has got to be the greatest trick in the world. |
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On 11/14/2013 4:30 PM, graham wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >> > That takes me back to my student days 50 yrs ago (gasp!). During the winter > months, we'd keep the opened can of condensed milk (bought for out 11pm > coffee sessions) on the window sill. After a day or two, a crust would > form - delicious!!! > Graham > > Crusty milk. Interesting. Mexican cooks would boil the cans in water for a few hours to make a caramel sauce. This only works for condensed milk, not evaporated milk! |
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On 11/14/2013 12:02 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-11-14 4:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> In article >, >> Dave Smith > wrote: >>>> >>> I had never seen anything but plain old sweetened condensed milk. given >>> the sweetness, I would have thought that the fat would be the least of >>> things to worry about. >> >> Really? You don't have Pet milk in Canada? > > I don't think we do. We have Carnation evaporated milk. I Googled it > and found Pet Evaportated milk. > >> >> Wait, there's a Stan Rogers lyric that talks about a ranch >> wife pouring "Carnation from the can", IIRC into her coffee. >> I'm pretty sure that means regular evaporated milk. > > Yep.... evaporated milk. >> >> Plus, lots of people say "condensed" when they mean "evaporated". It's >> usually easy to tell from context what the mean. >> > > I can't speak for those who may be confused. Evaporated milk in my > world is condensed only in that it has had a lot of the water removed > from it to make is shelf stable, weigh less and take up less space. Some > people like it in coffee. I have no use for it myself. Evaporated milk is an important ingredient in Chinese custard pie. Evidently, you can't make it with plain old regular milk. > > Condensed milk is an entirely different product, something very rich and > creamy and used in cooking. > > |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:51:43 -0600, "Polly Esther"
> wrote: > May > even try it with a butterscotch / praline. This year's pecans are grander > than ever. Polly I've never made praline, but it's delicious. Do you have a favorite recipe you can post or post a link to? Don't bother if you have to type it out, but you can always scan the page and post a link to the image if it's in a book. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:12:58 -0800, sf > wrote:
> I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea > condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my > shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery > shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg They didn't have the low-fat version, but they did have no-fat - so I bought that. Now I'm wavering between coconut macaroons (because I have a lot of shredded coconut on hand) or Polly's pralines. Either one will be out for hubby due to the sugar content, so I might need to rethink my plan. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 2013-11-15, dsi1 > wrote:
> doesn't have a beany, hay-like, taste. It looks and tastes like the > freshest cream. Yes, true fresh soy milk is quite good. I usta get it at Viet takeouts where I bought my banh mi's. It would come in little chilled 10oz plastic bottles, like an OJ bottle, and were excellent. They also usta have pennywort juice, which had tapioca-like seed balls in 'em. Gaggingly sweet, but somehow tasty. I so miss Viet restos. :( nb |
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"graham" > wrote in message ... > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... >>I feel like I've been living under a rock because I had no idea >> condensed milk came any way other than full fat! Putting it on my >> shopping list to check out the availability when I go grocery >> shopping. http://oi43.tinypic.com/wj89le.jpg >> > That takes me back to my student days 50 yrs ago (gasp!). During the > winter months, we'd keep the opened can of condensed milk (bought for out > 11pm coffee sessions) on the window sill. After a day or two, a crust > would form - delicious!!! I remember it well :))) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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