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On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:05:23 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: > Gouging hotel guests may be more of a North American thing. I had > dinners in a number of hotels in various European countries and I didn't > find them any more expensive than most other restaurants. Breakfast > buffets tended to be pricey but most of them were incredible buffets > with lots of high quality foods. > We spend a night down in Carmel recent to celebrate an anniversary and stayed at a hotel situated in Carmel Valley, which is on the other side of Hwy 101 and a mile or two from Carmel the tourist town. For a $10 add on ($15 if we'd just walked in), we had hands down the BEST example of a buffet style American breakfast that I'd ever eaten. That hotel was packed with visitors from other countries, so the word is out on value vs location. I also have to say they had the most responsive front desk and extended services I've ever experienced. The room we'd requested via telephone to the mother ship didn't transpire (we were using club points), so they did their best to duplicate it. We'd requested a room with two queen beds because we use all of the pillows from the other bed too... when I told her one queen/king was fine - but I wanted extra pillows, it was done. We met the hotel employee who delivered our extra pillows at the door. He was coming out as we opened it and we startled each other. The next day, I had a simple question that required an engineer to supply the answer and he was at my door less than 5 minutes later. That hotel is high on customer service... which reminds me that I should write a positive comment in Trip Advisor about it. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: > > > We used to call that "hotel > > prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days > > isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying > > that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) > > are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a > > trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek > > guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have > > been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that > > means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 > > shortly. > > > > That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy > an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even > in Santa Fe. No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off the Plaza. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:58:34 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote: > On 9/2/2013 12:35 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > > > > > > It was in Maine that I had the first lobster I liked. It may have been > > the way it was cooked ( not cooked for an eternity) or coming form cold > > water. IMO, seafood from cold water tastes better. > > I'm not a lobster fan, but one of my nieces is. We went to a seafood > restaurant near SF a few years ago and she ordered one expecting to get > one like here on the east coast. It was a Pacific lobster. She was > disappointed. It's what used to be called "Australian lobster tail" and something I prefer. Can't stand East Coast lobster. The only time I've ever even remotely liked it was at the one restaurant where I've ordered a lobster roll. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:40:16 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> On 9/2/2013 11:17 AM, sf wrote: > > For instance, I'm not a fan of the desert Southwest - but I can find > > something worth seeing when I'm there. > > Oh say it's not so! I didn't say there weren't amazing things to see, I just don't like it as much as I like other places and would never pick it first to visit. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:59:43 -0700, gtr > wrote:
> I thought it was the *food* that we were talking about. Certainly if > you talk about really great factories or meat processing plants a whole > new range of "best" begins to emerge. We started off talking about how much food is piled on the plate in fly over states (enough for two normal eaters, sometimes with leftovers) and got side tracked by you know who. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 2013-09-02 23:35:36 +0000, Cheri said:
> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013090210225256336-xxx@yyyzzz... >> On 2013-09-02 14:17:10 +0000, Cheri said: >> >>>> If you visit the USA, don't bother with New York or Los Angeles. Go to >>>> New Mexico and Arizona. Visit the Grand Canyon, and Petrified Forest >>>> National Parks. >>> >>> Especially don't bother with LA. >> >> It's a great city with great food and diverse culture. Certainly >> there's something to be said for potato fields, small-down post >> offices, chatting about crops over a beer in a 60-year old beer joint, > > I don't find much great about it at all, but different strokes. It has zillions of restaurants, icons, historic places, activities and all the rest, just like any other city. What is it that you don't like about it? |
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On 2013-09-02 23:56:11 +0000, sf said:
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:17:10 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> Especially don't bother with LA. > > They go there for only two reasons: Disneyland and Hollywood. Can't you be more reductionist? |
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On 2013-09-03 00:34:34 +0000, sf said:
> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: > >> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: >> >>> We used to call that "hotel >>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days >>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying >>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) >>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a >>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek >>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have >>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that >>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 >>> shortly. >>> >> >> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy >> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even >> in Santa Fe. > > No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at > what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just > ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call > "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We > weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the > entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off > the Plaza. I've seen a lot of martini's for $16 of late. |
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On 2013-09-03 00:41:51 +0000, sf said:
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:59:43 -0700, gtr > wrote: > >> I thought it was the *food* that we were talking about. Certainly if >> you talk about really great factories or meat processing plants a whole >> new range of "best" begins to emerge. > > We started off talking about how much food is piled on the plate in > fly over states (enough for two normal eaters, sometimes with > leftovers) and got side tracked by you know who. The devil? |
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On 9/2/2013 6:58 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-09-02, Cheryl > wrote: > >> What is it about Branson? I see commercials on TV a lot for touring >> Branson but never bothered to see what the fuss was about. > > If this is any clue, an episode of Married With Children was about > a trip to Branson Mo: > > "Peg take a holiday in Branson, Missouri, but Al says he can't afford > it. The prospect of all-fried food and only twin beds available, > however, make him change his estimate. [...] In Branson, the Bundys > get a room at the Deliverance Inn (yes, just like that movie). Peg and > Kelly take part in a country music talent contest." > > It also guest starred Tammy Wynette. > > In short, Branson is the Broadway/Las Vegas of MO hillbilly country, > the Ozarks. The idea for The Beverly Hillbillies originated in > Branson, so you can imagine it might be viewed with a certain amount > of disdain by coastal metropolitan sophisticates. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branson%2C_Missouri > > > nb > This would have interested me, but if the fare doesn't include time travel, never mind. lol "Also in 1983 the 7,500 seat Swiss Villa Amphitheatre opened in Lampe, Missouri. The outdoor amphitheatre brought in acts like Def Leppard, Lynyrd Skynyrd, REO Speedwagon, Steppenwolf, and Ozzy Osbourne. Closing in the early 2000s" -- CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980. |
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On 9/2/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: > >> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: >> >>> We used to call that "hotel >>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days >>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying >>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) >>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a >>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek >>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have >>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that >>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 >>> shortly. >>> >> >> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy >> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even >> in Santa Fe. > > No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at > what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just > ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call > "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We > weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the > entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off > the Plaza. > Our favorite SF night-spot: http://www.cowgirlsantafe.com/ Their drink menu and prices: http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have inflated past my standard order. |
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On 9/2/2013 7:15 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-09-03 00:34:34 +0000, sf said: > >> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: >> >>> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: >>> >>>> We used to call that "hotel >>>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days >>>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying >>>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) >>>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a >>>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek >>>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have >>>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that >>>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 >>>> shortly. >>>> >>> >>> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy >>> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even >>> in Santa Fe. >> >> No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at >> what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just >> ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call >> "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We >> weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the >> entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off >> the Plaza. > > I've seen a lot of martini's for $16 of late. > I'll now believe that given what has been shown here, astounding! |
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On Monday, September 2, 2013 7:17:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message > > > > If you visit the USA, don't bother with New York or Los Angeles. Go to > > New Mexico and Arizona. Visit the Grand Canyon, and Petrified Forest > > National Parks. > > > > Especially don't bother with LA. > In LA I can recommend the La Brea Tar Pits, the County Museum of Art (nearby the Petersen car museum, if you're interested), and the Getty Museum. The Norton Simon museum in Pasadena is also nice. Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica is an ok place for strolling and people watching, and it's close to the pier. If by some reason you're forced to be in Anaheim, I suggest the Phoenix Club for German beer and snacks. The problem with LA is its population density spread over an area the size of Connecticut. |
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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013090218163155942-xxx@yyyzzz... > On 2013-09-03 00:41:51 +0000, sf said: > >> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:59:43 -0700, gtr > wrote: >> >>> I thought it was the *food* that we were talking about. Certainly if >>> you talk about really great factories or meat processing plants a whole >>> new range of "best" begins to emerge. >> >> We started off talking about how much food is piled on the plate in >> fly over states (enough for two normal eaters, sometimes with >> leftovers) and got side tracked by you know who. > > The devil? I think he's the one who fills the plates! I hadn't really noticed what you said but often when we traveled, we'd wind up going to chain places like Perkins just because they were close to or attached to where we were staying. We have also stayed in some very nice hotels. I remember one that had an out of this world Italian place. The menu had so many things on it that I liked that I had trouble deciding what to eat. I wound up ordering two different things which turned out to be fine because the portions were tiny and the prices were high so we'd never go back if only for the price. But it was beautifully decorated and the service impeccable. Oddly enough that same hotel also had a huge sort of food court thing but the food was all sold from machines. Not just things like chips and candy but there was a frozen machine with ice cream and the like in it and other machines that dispensed frozen foods or bags of popcorn that could be heated in the microwave. And there was a microwave. I think they also had machines that dispensed hot pizza and French fries. I haven't seen such machines in years. I want to say that this hotel was in Idaho but not sure. We did dine at an Amish place in Wisconsin where the portions were huge. And some places in the Midwest where we got really good beef. But I don't remember overly huge portions. Then again, I dislike huge portions of food and unless I plan to split the meal (rare because my likes don't match those of my family), I intentionally look for things on the menu that would be small. Like a cup of soup or a side of vegetables. I have however gotten a side of vegetables that was enough for the entire table and then some! I do remember getting insanely huge portions of food at some places in NY. Some but not all. Angela and I often dined at a pizza place near where we lived. You could get pizza by the slice and they also had salads and pasta dishes. The salads were huge so we would split one. But the pasta came in reasonable portions. I think some sort of bread may well have come with those meals but we are not big bread eaters so I don't remember. But there was another Italian place towards the other end of the Island. It had two sides. The more formal side and the pizza parlor type side. We opted for the formal side. We ordered three meals (Angela and I planned to split) and had intended to put in a "to go" order just prior to leaving. But when the plates of pasta arrived, we were flabbergasted at how much food we got. We immediately asked for a large box. We each put more than half of our food in the box to take home to my husband. Even at that, we were still unable to finish what was on our plates and my husband had enough food for two meals and a snack. And he can be a big eater! The salads were huge and they also served bread. We normally dined on the other side of the restaurant. I typically got a rice ball which Angela and I would split. We would also get salad and perhaps soup. I think you could get pasta on that side of the place but we never got it there. I think husband got pizza and took some home. Or perhaps he got a sandwich. I know that some people like large portions of food because they like to take some home. I am not one of them. |
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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013090218141743276-xxx@yyyzzz... > It has zillions of restaurants, icons, historic places, activities and all > the rest, just like any other city. What is it that you don't like about > it? I did not personally care for NY in any way shape or form. Perhaps I would think differently if I just visited for a week or two but I had to live there. To me it was a bustling and dirty place and the people for the most part were not friendly. There were exceptions. One of the first people we met there was very friendly. She was the one who told us of the free Pre-K there and she also brought Angela a dish of black olives which were not on the menu but were a favorite food. She was tired and cranky because we had been traveling for most of the day then spent hours shopping to set up our new home. I did like LA a lot but we were there in the late 70's. Things could be differnet now. Perhaps I liked it because we went into a wine shop and I was given so many samples of wine that I left there tipsy. I was 17 or 18 at the time. Nobody asked for my I.D. Not saying this was a good thing from the legal perspective and all but I loved it back then. This was on Olvera St. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olvera_Street Perhaps I liked it so well because it was Mexican and I like all things Mexican. That area had a very happy vibe to it. I'm sure that the wine helped! :) I was a little less thrilled with the stuff like Universal Studios but then that sort of thing never really appeals to me. I do like some touristy things but not usually things like that or museums. Although there are a few museums that I do like. We were however only there for perhaps 2-3 days. Can't remember exactly. We spent some time there, some in San Fransico, also Carmel and wherever my aunt and uncle were living at the time. Can't remember as they moved a lot but they had a farm. |
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On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:47:25 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> On 9/2/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: > > > >> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: > >> > >>> We used to call that "hotel > >>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days > >>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying > >>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) > >>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a > >>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek > >>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have > >>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that > >>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 > >>> shortly. > >>> > >> > >> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy > >> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even > >> in Santa Fe. > > > > No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at > > what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just > > ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call > > "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We > > weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the > > entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off > > the Plaza. > > > > Our favorite SF night-spot: > > http://www.cowgirlsantafe.com/ > > Their drink menu and prices: > > http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf > > I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have > inflated past my standard order. Their bar price for margaritas look like a neighborhood place we go to. Their margaritas aren't made with real tequila, it's agave that can be served with a beer and wine license. The taste is weird at first when you're used to real margaritas, but it's fine after you get used to the taste and know to expect it. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:14:58 -0700, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-09-02 23:56:11 +0000, sf said: > > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:17:10 -0700, "Cheri" > > > wrote: > > > >> Especially don't bother with LA. > > > > They go there for only two reasons: Disneyland and Hollywood. > > Can't you be more reductionist? I don't consider myself a reductionist, but I do cut to the chase. ;) -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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"casa contenta" > wrote in message ... > On 9/2/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: >> >>> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: >>> >>>> We used to call that "hotel >>>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days >>>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying >>>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) >>>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a >>>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek >>>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have >>>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that >>>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 >>>> shortly. >>>> >>> >>> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy >>> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even >>> in Santa Fe. >> >> No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at >> what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just >> ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call >> "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We >> weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the >> entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off >> the Plaza. >> > > Our favorite SF night-spot: > > http://www.cowgirlsantafe.com/ > > Their drink menu and prices: > > http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf > > I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have > inflated past my standard order. That's my kind of place! Especially love the option of all the sides. |
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> wrote in message ... > On Monday, September 2, 2013 7:17:10 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote: >> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message >> >> >> > If you visit the USA, don't bother with New York or Los Angeles. Go to >> > New Mexico and Arizona. Visit the Grand Canyon, and Petrified Forest >> > National Parks. >> >> >> >> Especially don't bother with LA. >> > > In LA I can recommend the La Brea Tar Pits, the County Museum of Art > (nearby > the Petersen car museum, if you're interested), and the Getty Museum. The > Norton Simon museum in Pasadena is also nice. > > Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica is an ok place for strolling and > people watching, and it's close to the pier. > > If by some reason you're forced to be in Anaheim, I suggest the Phoenix > Club for German beer and snacks. > > The problem with LA is its population density spread over an area the size > of > Connecticut. Agreed. We were only able to see bits and pieces because it was a two week trip and we were visiting people in other parts of CA as well. |
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On 2013-09-03 05:49:32 +0000, sf said:
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:14:58 -0700, gtr > wrote: > >> On 2013-09-02 23:56:11 +0000, sf said: >> >>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:17:10 -0700, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Especially don't bother with LA. >>> >>> They go there for only two reasons: Disneyland and Hollywood. >> >> Can't you be more reductionist? > > I don't consider myself a reductionist, but I do cut to the chase. ;) I note one opportunity: Disneyland is in Anaheim. |
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On 9/2/2013 1:41 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 07:10:00 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >> Seriously though, the east coast and the left coast are primary >> destinations for vacations. I suppose the oceans are the big appeal. > > True dat, but people are missing a lot by ignoring the Great Lakes - > which are interior fresh water oceans. (snippage) Fresh water oceans?! That's a new one on me. My grandparents had a cottage on Lake Erie. It was (by all accounts) a pretty vacation spot. I wouldn't know; they sold it before I was born. I don't think they called it an "ocean cottage" or even "beach front". It was just a cottage on a lake. Jill |
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On 9/2/2013 6:28 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/2/2013 4:03 PM, gtr wrote: >> >> Of course there is Branson, MO, but that's another kind of culture. > > What is it about Branson? I see commercials on TV a lot for touring > Branson but never bothered to see what the fuss was about. > Don't bother. It's a bunch of Bible Belters and where retired comedians go to live out their lives. Jill |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > "Gary" wrote > > I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you > > could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He > > responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He > > didn't realize that they are the same. > > Did you tell him? :) Sure I did but of course he didn't believe me. heheh G. |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: >> >> "Gary" wrote >> > I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you >> > could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He >> > responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He >> > didn't realize that they are the same. >> >> Did you tell him? :) > > Sure I did but of course he didn't believe me. heheh lol -- -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 9/3/2013 9:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> "Gary" wrote >>> > I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you >>> > could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He >>> > responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He >>> > didn't realize that they are the same. >>> >>> Did you tell him? :) >> >> Sure I did but of course he didn't believe me. heheh > > lol Maybe he thinks maps were handed out to the lobsters so they know to stay there and not stray past Maine's borders. Or there's an underwater marker. nancy |
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On Monday, September 2, 2013 8:13:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you > could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He > responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He > didn't realize that they are the same. > > G. They are not the same. The environment in the coastal waters of Maine is different, and most certainly affects the taste of lobsters, shrimp and other seafood. However, all lobsters caught on the eastern seaboard of New England are good. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > On 9/3/2013 9:04 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> "Gary" wrote >>>> > I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you >>>> > could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He >>>> > responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He >>>> > didn't realize that they are the same. >>>> >>>> Did you tell him? :) >>> >>> Sure I did but of course he didn't believe me. heheh >> >> lol > > Maybe he thinks maps were handed out to the lobsters so > they know to stay there and not stray past Maine's borders. > Or there's an underwater marker. I have this vision of a lobster wearing glasses, peering at the map and trying to figure out where the heck he is ... ;) -- -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 9/3/2013 10:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Nancy Young" > wrote >> Maybe he thinks maps were handed out to the lobsters so >> they know to stay there and not stray past Maine's borders. >> Or there's an underwater marker. > > I have this vision of a lobster wearing glasses, peering at the map and > trying to figure out where the heck he is ... ;) Heh, and the girl lobster saying I don't understand, why can't you just ask someone?? nancy |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > On 9/3/2013 10:25 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Nancy Young" > wrote > >>> Maybe he thinks maps were handed out to the lobsters so >>> they know to stay there and not stray past Maine's borders. >>> Or there's an underwater marker. >> >> I have this vision of a lobster wearing glasses, peering at the map and >> trying to figure out where the heck he is ... ;) > > Heh, and the girl lobster saying I don't understand, why can't > you just ask someone?? rofl ain't that just right!!!!!!!!!! lolol -- -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Helpful person wrote:
> > On Monday, September 2, 2013 8:13:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: > > > > I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you > > could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He > > responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He > > didn't realize that they are the same. > > > > G. > > They are not the same. The environment in the > coastal waters of Maine is different, and most > certainly affects the taste of lobsters, shrimp > and other seafood. LOL! Do some research. :-D G. |
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On 9/2/2013 11:46 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:47:25 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: > >> On 9/2/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: >>>> >>>>> We used to call that "hotel >>>>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days >>>>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying >>>>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) >>>>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a >>>>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek >>>>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have >>>>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that >>>>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 >>>>> shortly. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy >>>> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even >>>> in Santa Fe. >>> >>> No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at >>> what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just >>> ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call >>> "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We >>> weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the >>> entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off >>> the Plaza. >>> >> >> Our favorite SF night-spot: >> >> http://www.cowgirlsantafe.com/ >> >> Their drink menu and prices: >> >> http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf >> >> I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have >> inflated past my standard order. > > Their bar price for margaritas look like a neighborhood place we go > to. Their margaritas aren't made with real tequila, it's agave that > can be served with a beer and wine license. The taste is weird at > first when you're used to real margaritas, but it's fine after you get > used to the taste and know to expect it. > Well that is novel, I think they must have found a price point that encourages such a variation from the norm. How do you describe the taste, is it smokier or somewhat more sharp? http://homecooking.about.com/od/cook...uilamezcal.htm http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.c...rd-agave/?_r=0 |
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On 9/3/2013 12:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "casa contenta" > wrote in message > ... >> On 9/2/2013 6:34 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:51 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/2/2013 9:13 AM, sf wrote: >>>> >>>>> We used to call that "hotel >>>>> prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days >>>>> isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying >>>>> that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) >>>>> are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a >>>>> trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek >>>>> guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have >>>>> been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that >>>>> means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 >>>>> shortly. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's astounding, I had no idea prices had elevated that far. I enjoy >>>> an occasional margarita, but rarely have I seen prices exceed $6-7 even >>>> in Santa Fe. >>> >>> No way. I was in Old Town Santa Fe last Fall and wasn't shocked at >>> what they charged (probably $8-10 for a mixed drink)... which are just >>> ordinary bar prices for SF, CA and nowhere near what I'd call >>> "cheap"... which is what I'd call the $6-7 you say you pay. We >>> weren't wandering around Santa Fe (not enough time), we spent the >>> entire day in Old Town and had dinner at some tourist hotel just off >>> the Plaza. >>> >> >> Our favorite SF night-spot: >> >> http://www.cowgirlsantafe.com/ >> >> Their drink menu and prices: >> >> http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf >> >> I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have >> inflated past my standard order. > > That's my kind of place! Especially love the option of all the sides. It's a wonderful spot to eat and take in music as well. They've been a hit for many a year in a town that can be oft times tough on restaurants. That said, the long time (decades?) Plaza favorite, The Shed, has always underwhelmed me. Oft times places trying too hard to be trendy think that using blue corn tortillas somehow makes them special. I find blue corn with red sauce = purple food, which does nothing for the eye appeal. http://www.sfshed.com/lunch.html |
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On 9/3/2013 8:20 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Monday, September 2, 2013 8:13:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote: >> >> I once told an old boss that when I lived in Newport, RI, (1971) you >> could buy lobsters right at the docks for only $1.00 per pound. He >> responded, "I only buy Maine lobsters...they are better." LOL! He >> didn't realize that they are the same. >> >> G. > > They are not the same. The environment in the > coastal waters of Maine is different, and most > certainly affects the taste of lobsters, shrimp > and other seafood. However, all lobsters caught > on the eastern seaboard of New England are good. > > http://www.richardfisher.com > It's a lobster, it's going to be tasty even if it's the spiny version from the Bahamas! |
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On 9/3/2013 8:28 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/3/2013 10:25 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Nancy Young" > wrote > >>> Maybe he thinks maps were handed out to the lobsters so >>> they know to stay there and not stray past Maine's borders. >>> Or there's an underwater marker. >> >> I have this vision of a lobster wearing glasses, peering at the map and >> trying to figure out where the heck he is ... ;) > > Heh, and the girl lobster saying I don't understand, why can't > you just ask someone?? > > nancy > Too crabby ;-) |
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On Monday, September 2, 2013 10:13:41 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > > I've still never eaten in an Outback. I ate at Red Lobster once, > > maybe twice for lunch and wasn't impressed with the food - their > > dinner prices took my breath away, so I passed. Paying whatever I > > paid for mediocre food at lunch was a whole lot better than paying > > their "downtown" prices for dinner. We used to call that "hotel > > prices", but eating in most downtown hotel restaurants these days > > isn't terribly expensive and the food is great, so I've stopped saying > > that. What's expensive in hotels as a general rule (but not always) > > are their drinks. Hotel bars are usually at the leading edge of a > > trend to raise prices - I guess they can because most of their midweek > > guests are on expense accounts. I think their bar drink prices have > > been stuck at $10 for a while but I've read about $12+ lately, so that > > means restaurant bar mixed drink prices will be creeping up from $8 > > shortly. > I've never bought a drink at a hotel bar. I assume that the premium is kind of like buying into the lottery of getting lucky. Seriously, why else would anyone pay hotel bar prices if they weren't hoping to hook up? You know, people out of town for a few days for a convention or something, and a lot of folks don't like to go more than one or two days without some human contact. Imagining a conversation in a bar at a Westin. Man: I'm in town for a big company meeting. Woman: At this hotel? Man: No, we're next door, at the Hyatt. Woman: Then why are you over here? Man: The appetizers are good, plus, almost all the women in that bar are my co-workers. Woman: So, you're here looking to pick up women? Man: More like woman, singular. I try to be realistic. --Bryan O|O |
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On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:51:33 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
> On 9/2/2013 11:46 PM, sf wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:47:25 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: > > > >> Their drink menu and prices: > >> > >> http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf > >> > >> I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have > >> inflated past my standard order. > > > > Their bar price for margaritas look like a neighborhood place we go > > to. Their margaritas aren't made with real tequila, it's agave that > > can be served with a beer and wine license. The taste is weird at > > first when you're used to real margaritas, but it's fine after you get > > used to the taste and know to expect it. > > > > Well that is novel, I think they must have found a price point that > encourages such a variation from the norm. It tells me that their liquor licence is for beer and wine only. They have an extensive beer selection from all over the world, plus sangria and that agave wine based margarita. No mixed drinks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_wine Another restaurant in town, called Limon has one location (of three) that looks like a full bar, but it is only beer & wine. They make a kick ass Pisco Sour using some kind of sake, even proved it by showing us the bottle. > > How do you describe the taste, is it smokier or somewhat more sharp? Just different, softer - without the sharpness you'd expect from a "well" tequila. I'm used to it now. I had to get used to drinking margaritas made with sweet & sour mix too, but I managed. It's somehow fitting that pretend tequila would be paired with pretend lime. The only places that make margaritas the way they should be made, with fresh lime juice, also charge downtown prices for their drinks... this is a nice restaurant that's been around for decades and when we go there, we intend the meal to be easy on our wallet. Last week, dinner (including tip, one margarita and one Modelo) was $40. That's a cheap date. > PS: I can't believe that they still don't have a web site after 30 years, but they don't. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:49:34 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: > On 9/2/2013 1:41 PM, sf wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 07:10:00 -0400, Gary > wrote: > > > >> Seriously though, the east coast and the left coast are primary > >> destinations for vacations. I suppose the oceans are the big appeal. > > > > True dat, but people are missing a lot by ignoring the Great Lakes - > > which are interior fresh water oceans. > > (snippage) > > Fresh water oceans?! That's a new one on me. > > My grandparents had a cottage on Lake Erie. It was (by all accounts) a > pretty vacation spot. I wouldn't know; they sold it before I was born. > I don't think they called it an "ocean cottage" or even "beach front". > It was just a cottage on a lake. > Lake Michigan is a lake you can't see across. I call that an ocean or an inland sea. Take your pick. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 00:16:17 -0700, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-09-03 05:49:32 +0000, sf said: > > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:14:58 -0700, gtr > wrote: > > > >> On 2013-09-02 23:56:11 +0000, sf said: > >> > >>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:17:10 -0700, "Cheri" > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Especially don't bother with LA. > >>> > >>> They go there for only two reasons: Disneyland and Hollywood. > >> > >> Can't you be more reductionist? > > > > I don't consider myself a reductionist, but I do cut to the chase. ;) > > I note one opportunity: Disneyland is in Anaheim. It's in Los Angeles county. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 9/3/2013 11:31 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:51:33 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: > >> On 9/2/2013 11:46 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:47:25 -0600, casa contenta > wrote: >>> >>>> Their drink menu and prices: >>>> >>>> http://bucket-production-cg.s3.amazo...tails-menu.pdf >>>> >>>> I think you can me a top of the menu person, obviously prices have >>>> inflated past my standard order. >>> >>> Their bar price for margaritas look like a neighborhood place we go >>> to. Their margaritas aren't made with real tequila, it's agave that >>> can be served with a beer and wine license. The taste is weird at >>> first when you're used to real margaritas, but it's fine after you get >>> used to the taste and know to expect it. >>> >> >> Well that is novel, I think they must have found a price point that >> encourages such a variation from the norm. > > It tells me that their liquor licence is for beer and wine only. They > have an extensive beer selection from all over the world, plus sangria > and that agave wine based margarita. No mixed drinks. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_wine Oh I see, that is something I've not run into in our market yet, an actual wine from agave. It may also be that I'm fairly unobservant on such things, but I just can't recall seeing this. At 24% content it would proof out at roughly 48, true? That's unusually high for any wine, or even a brandy. I wonder how long this agave loophole will exist? It's the kind of thing one would think the liquor licensing folks would investigate and act upon. > Another restaurant in town, called Limon has one location (of three) > that looks like a full bar, but it is only beer & wine. They make a > kick ass Pisco Sour using some kind of sake, even proved it by showing > us the bottle. >> >> How do you describe the taste, is it smokier or somewhat more sharp? > > Just different, softer - without the sharpness you'd expect from a > "well" tequila. I'm used to it now. I had to get used to drinking > margaritas made with sweet & sour mix too, but I managed. It's > somehow fitting that pretend tequila would be paired with pretend > lime. The only places that make margaritas the way they should be > made, with fresh lime juice, also charge downtown prices for their > drinks... this is a nice restaurant that's been around for decades and > when we go there, we intend the meal to be easy on our wallet. Last > week, dinner (including tip, one margarita and one Modelo) was $40. > That's a cheap date. I agree, that's real value thee days. >> > PS: I can't believe that they still don't have a web site after 30 > years, but they don't. > |
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