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On 7/22/2013 5:23 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 7/22/2013 3:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/22/2013 5:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly!!! But, would you sleep with 'that' however much money he
>>>>> had???
>>>>> *boke* All I can say is their greed must overcome their 'boke'
>>>>> response!
>>>>
>>>> Boke! That made me laugh. I haven't heard that word in years!
>>>
>>> <g> Very descriptive don't you think? )
>>>

>> Definitely! It sounds like what my cat does when she coughs up a
>> hairball. My mother used to say, "Do you feel like you need to boke?"
>> LOL

>
> Interesting your Mum used to say that Is it used much there?


I only ever heard her and my grandmother say it. Then again, I don't
often feel like I need to boke. LOL

I don't think the term is common outside of the UK/Scotland. I've never
heard it outside of immediate family.

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 7/22/2013 5:23 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/22/2013 3:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/22/2013 5:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly!!! But, would you sleep with 'that' however much money he
>>>>>> had???
>>>>>> *boke* All I can say is their greed must overcome their 'boke'
>>>>>> response!
>>>>>
>>>>> Boke! That made me laugh. I haven't heard that word in years!
>>>>
>>>> <g> Very descriptive don't you think? )
>>>>
>>> Definitely! It sounds like what my cat does when she coughs up a
>>> hairball. My mother used to say, "Do you feel like you need to boke?"
>>> LOL

>>
>> Interesting your Mum used to say that Is it used much there?

>
> I only ever heard her and my grandmother say it. Then again, I don't
> often feel like I need to boke. LOL
>
> I don't think the term is common outside of the UK/Scotland. I've never
> heard it outside of immediate family.


Ahh yes, it came from your Grandmother!! I should have guessed) I have
to say I rarely have to boke either but the option is always there if needed

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:59:35 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> I was looking at yellow squash and zucchini yesterday at Publix. It had
>
> all been bundled and packaged on styrofoam trays then shrink-wrapped and
>
> a price tag slapped on.
>
>
>
> A. I don't *need* [e.g.] 6 yellow squash!
>
> B. I like to select my own vegetables, thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Why do grocery stores do this? IIRC they used to offer the trays as
>
> well as loose squash to choose from.
>
>
>
> Fortunately, there's a farm stand on St. Helena. I prefer to give
>
> them my business, anyway. Unfortunately, they're only set up on Friday
>
> and Saturday.


That's one of my biggest beef with Publix. I wrote 'em once and got the usual party line. a. We will gladly break open a package ( oh sure, takes extra minutes to get someone, then wait for a rewrap.) They did get a little better about leaving some things loose, but not like Winn DIxie.

b. the other excuse had to do with sanitation, other folks handling blah blah.....as if I wasn't intending to still wash stuff? Gimmeabreak.
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> I'm married to the same man I married at 17 and he's the only man I care
>> about noticing me at all...I'm betting you're single and not getting any.
>> LOL

>
> Sadly, you just described ME. On the other hand, at this point in my life
> I
> am enjoying living alone with my 2 ferret "girlfriends." The ferrets
> don't
> talk my ear off and I can do whatever I want to, whenever I want to,
> without
> any conflict from some nagging wife.
>
> My daughter thinks I'm depressed and unhappy. LOL...She's clueless. I'm
> really happy and content for the time being.
>
> Sometimes I miss a mate but not really unless I ever find the right one.
> "It's better to live alone and experience occasional loneliness than to
> live
> with the wrong person 24/7."
>
> G.



I completely understand what you're saying. Being alone doesn't necessarily
mean that one is lonely, and in your case, it sounds like it's a choice for
now. I agree about trying to live with the wrong person too.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 7/22/2013 3:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/22/2013 5:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly!!! But, would you sleep with 'that' however much money he
>>>>> had???
>>>>> *boke* All I can say is their greed must overcome their 'boke'
>>>>> response!
>>>>
>>>> Boke! That made me laugh. I haven't heard that word in years!
>>>
>>> <g> Very descriptive don't you think? )
>>>

>> Definitely! It sounds like what my cat does when she coughs up a
>> hairball. My mother used to say, "Do you feel like you need to boke?"
>> LOL

>
> Interesting your Mum used to say that Is it used much there?


Personally, I have never heard that term.

Cheri



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> On 22/07/2013 1:42 PM, Gary wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:16:07 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What can I say? There are a number of cities where they frequently have
>>>> a "slut walk" where women go out and march in various stages of
>>>> undress
>>>> to exercise their right to dress the way they want.
>>>
>>> Really? I must not be tuning into the right news stations, because
>>> I've missed all mention of that - if it ever happens here. For the
>>> sake of comfort and not catching the flu, I hope those slut walks take
>>> place during warm weather - but I bet all the men who view it hope for
>>> a sudden cold snap.

>>
>> hahaha. As for me, I would never go watch a "slut walk." Seems like all
>> the
>> women that do such a thing are usually the ones that would look much
>> nicer
>> with clothes on. You never (or rarely) see the hot chicks doing that
>> nonsense. It's mostly just militant, angry and ugly women who are mad at
>> the world....just like Bryan is. ;-D
>>
>>

>
>
> The Slut Walk has an interesting approach. They claim to be upset about
> the suggestion that if they are concerned being sexually assaulted they
> should not dress like sluts. To protest against that mentality they have a
> march where they dress..... like sluts, wearing the clothes that they
> would never wear to visit their grannies or to work.... unless they were
> hookers. Maybe they see some rationale behind it. I am sure that lots of
> women here will support them on it but that others will question it.
>
> AFAIAC, if a woman dresses in a way that is going to attract attention
> she is going to get attention. It will attract the attention of the jerks
> and perverts and not just the audience she is hoping for. It is sort of
> like putting a worm on a hook and dropping your line in the water looking
> for a 20 pound lake trout, but you end up catching a bunch of crappy old
> sunfish instead.
>



All of that supposes that men can't control themselves which is baloney. It
shouldn't matter how someone dresses, nobody has the right to sexually
assault someone for any reason. Normal people don't.

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On 22/07/2013 8:56 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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>> On 22/07/2013 1:42 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:16:07 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What can I say? There are a number of cities where they frequently
>>>>> have
>>>>> a "slut walk" where women go out and march in various stages of
>>>>> undress
>>>>> to exercise their right to dress the way they want.
>>>>
>>>> Really? I must not be tuning into the right news stations, because
>>>> I've missed all mention of that - if it ever happens here. For the
>>>> sake of comfort and not catching the flu, I hope those slut walks take
>>>> place during warm weather - but I bet all the men who view it hope for
>>>> a sudden cold snap.
>>>
>>> hahaha. As for me, I would never go watch a "slut walk." Seems like
>>> all the
>>> women that do such a thing are usually the ones that would look much
>>> nicer
>>> with clothes on. You never (or rarely) see the hot chicks doing that
>>> nonsense. It's mostly just militant, angry and ugly women who are
>>> mad at
>>> the world....just like Bryan is. ;-D
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> The Slut Walk has an interesting approach. They claim to be upset
>> about the suggestion that if they are concerned being sexually
>> assaulted they should not dress like sluts. To protest against that
>> mentality they have a march where they dress..... like sluts, wearing
>> the clothes that they would never wear to visit their grannies or to
>> work.... unless they were hookers. Maybe they see some rationale
>> behind it. I am sure that lots of women here will support them on it
>> but that others will question it.
>>
>> AFAIAC, if a woman dresses in a way that is going to attract
>> attention she is going to get attention. It will attract the attention
>> of the jerks and perverts and not just the audience she is hoping for.
>> It is sort of like putting a worm on a hook and dropping your line in
>> the water looking for a 20 pound lake trout, but you end up catching a
>> bunch of crappy old sunfish instead.t s
>>

>
>
> All of that supposes that men can't control themselves which is baloney.



It seems that some can't.

> It shouldn't matter how someone dresses, nobody has the right to
> sexually assault someone for any reason. Normal people don't.
>


Normal being the operative word.
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On 07/22/2013 08:41 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:03:12 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
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>> The aplets/cotlets candies just showed up in the mailbox. I'd never
>> heard of them before.

>
> Really?
>


According to Wikipedia, Aplets and Cotlets are an Americanized
commercial version of Turkish Delight. According to the same article,
the earliest known reference in the West is from the late 18th century.
More recently, Turkish Delight played a part in "The Lion, The Witch and
The Wardrobe." The confection traditionally uses cornstarch as the
jelly-like interior. Recipes abound on the internet, but I haven't tried
any of them.
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"Whirled Peas" > wrote in message
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> On 07/22/2013 08:41 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:03:12 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The aplets/cotlets candies just showed up in the mailbox. I'd never
>>> heard of them before.

>>
>> Really?
>>

>
> According to Wikipedia, Aplets and Cotlets are an Americanized commercial
> version of Turkish Delight. According to the same article, the earliest
> known reference in the West is from the late 18th century. More recently,
> Turkish Delight played a part in "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe."
> The confection traditionally uses cornstarch as the jelly-like interior.
> Recipes abound on the internet, but I haven't tried any of them.


They do not taste like Turkish Delight at all. I did buy some of that.
Oooh ick! Far too sweet for my tastes. I must say that the ones I made
myself tasted pretty good to me but the commercial ones are also too sweet
for me and I dislike the soft texture.


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On 7/22/2013 6:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Definitely! It sounds like what my cat does when she coughs up a
>>>> hairball. My mother used to say, "Do you feel like you need to boke?"
>>>> LOL
>>>
>>> Interesting your Mum used to say that Is it used much there?

>>
>> I only ever heard her and my grandmother say it. Then again, I don't
>> often feel like I need to boke. LOL
>>
>> I don't think the term is common outside of the UK/Scotland. I've
>> never heard it outside of immediate family.

>
> Ahh yes, it came from your Grandmother!! I should have guessed) I
> have to say I rarely have to boke either but the option is always there
> if needed


Grandma and Mom called large clumps of dust (aka dust bunnies) "oose".
When I find myself saying things like this people look at me like
I'm crazy.

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> On 7/22/2013 6:08 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> Definitely! It sounds like what my cat does when she coughs up a
>>>>> hairball. My mother used to say, "Do you feel like you need to boke?"
>>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> Interesting your Mum used to say that Is it used much there?
>>>
>>> I only ever heard her and my grandmother say it. Then again, I don't
>>> often feel like I need to boke. LOL
>>>
>>> I don't think the term is common outside of the UK/Scotland. I've
>>> never heard it outside of immediate family.

>>
>> Ahh yes, it came from your Grandmother!! I should have guessed) I
>> have to say I rarely have to boke either but the option is always there
>> if needed

>
> Grandma and Mom called large clumps of dust (aka dust bunnies) "oose".
> When I find myself saying things like this people look at me like I'm
> crazy.


lol you keep up those traditions girl)) It's in your blood don't ever
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> Looking them up on the net I can
> see that I would never eat such things.


Go have a smoke, huffer.



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On 7/23/2013 11:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> lol you keep up those traditions girl)) It's in your blood don't ever
> forget) We say 'Stoor'
>

Yes, dust bunnies are stoor; really mucky, wet stuff is clarts.
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> On 7/23/2013 11:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>> lol you keep up those traditions girl)) It's in your blood don't ever
>> forget) We say 'Stoor'
>>

> Yes, dust bunnies are stoor; really mucky, wet stuff is clarts.


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On 7/22/2013 5:35 PM, Whirled Peas wrote:
>
> According to Wikipedia, Aplets and Cotlets are an Americanized
> commercial version of Turkish Delight. According to the same article,
> the earliest known reference in the West is from the late 18th century.
> More recently, Turkish Delight played a part in "The Lion, The Witch and
> The Wardrobe." The confection traditionally uses cornstarch as the
> jelly-like interior. Recipes abound on the internet, but I haven't tried
> any of them.


The Aplets & Cotlets from Liberty Orchards are unique in that the main
jelling agent is pectin. I don't know of any other candy that does this.
It's more like an Asian-type gel candy. I like them a lot but don't know
how well it will sit with the next generation. Covering them in
chocolate would help - a lot.

I've had some packaged Turkish Delight candy. Oddly enough, it's texture
and taste is a lot like Boton Rice Candy. There's no reason why this
should be so but that doesn't matter to the candy.


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On 7/21/2013 10:28 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/21/2013 10:23 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:55:28 -0400, Nancy Young

>
>>> Wow, something in this thread made me look up Aplets and cotlets
>>> earlier today and I don't feel like I saw those words. Obviously
>>> I did. They used to show up in the mail every year before Christmas.
>>>

>> I think "Christmas" is a key word here.

>
> I always wondered how many holiday sales they must make that it would be
> profitable to mail a sample to everyone in the country! Or so it
> seemed.
>
> nancy
>

Remember way back when, in the 1990's, the Butter-is-Best site sent out
the free cow-shaped cookie cutters? (laughing)

I sure as heck didn't buy any aplets & cotlets. But thanks anyway for
sending me the the free candy!

Jill

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A friend sent me some Aplets & Cotlets several years ago. I thought they
were barely edible and was sorry she had wasted her money (but did not tell
her, of course).

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On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:53:07 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> On 7/22/2013 5:35 PM, Whirled Peas wrote:
>
> >

>
> > According to Wikipedia, Aplets and Cotlets are an Americanized

>
> > commercial version of Turkish Delight. According to the same article,

>
> > the earliest known reference in the West is from the late 18th century.

>
> > More recently, Turkish Delight played a part in "The Lion, The Witch and

>
> > The Wardrobe." The confection traditionally uses cornstarch as the

>
> > jelly-like interior. Recipes abound on the internet, but I haven't tried

>
> > any of them.

>
>
>
> The Aplets & Cotlets from Liberty Orchards are unique in that the main
>
> jelling agent is pectin. I don't know of any other candy that does this.
>
> It's more like an Asian-type gel candy. I like them a lot but don't know
>
> how well it will sit with the next generation. Covering them in
>
> chocolate would help - a lot.
>
>
>
> I've had some packaged Turkish Delight candy. Oddly enough, it's texture
>
> and taste is a lot like Boton Rice Candy. There's no reason why this
>
> should be so but that doesn't matter to the candy.


I have seen chocolate covered ones here.
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Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/18/2013 11:00 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>

>
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Jays are more agressive than most birds and also piggish. Do not feed
>>> them grapes or raisins, it will eventually kill them. Most birds and
>>> other wild critters know instinctively not to eat grapes... there are
>>> lots of vineyards in NY, none net their vines. I have a lot of wild
>>> grapes growing on my property, I never see birds eating them, even the
>>> squirrels won't touch them.

>>
>> Bluejays ARE piggish. I have been saying they are very sloppy and
>> wasteful eaters. The other birds take one seed and either eat it, feed
>> it to their young, or fly away with it. The bluejays scatter much seed
>> when they are eating.
>>

> My dad used to call them trashcans with wings. He was an avid bird
> watcher.
>
>

LOL! At least I can watch them being thwarted from this very
seat. They annoy mea no end when they trip the feeder that the
cardinals like though. It often sticks in the closed position, so
I have to go traipsing out to open it again, lest "my" cardinals
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Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/19/2013 9:04 PM, Jean B. wrote:
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>> I'd like that scattering more if there were no cats prowling around
>> looking for yummy living treats under my feeders. Good point about the
>> hawks IF it works that way. I have hawks here. I hear them "screeing"
>> and sometimes see them on top of light poles etc.

>
> The neat thing about having hawks in your vicinity is that you'll
> probably also have owls. They go for the same prey.
>

I have heard an owl/owls. I have not spotted any here though.
Back in my previous house, I saw an owl twice in the course of ca
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Jean B." wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Larger birds tend to scatter more seed, either by creating air
>>> turbulance with wing flapping (mourning doves especially), and it
>>> depends on what seed you feed, birds tend to dig into feeders for
>>> their favorites knocking many to the ground... those seeds don't get
>>> wasted, they ALL get eaten... it's far more natural for birds to feed
>>> off the ground... bird feeders are mainly designed for humans to bird
>>> watch. I don't worry about it because I no longer use a feeder since
>>> a black bear demolished mine, I put seeds out on the big round table
>>> on my deck and toss seeds out my office window onto the ground...
>>> nothing gets wasted. I also feed in-shell peanuts, the jays love
>>> them, the smaller birds can't deal with them... squirrels eat too.

>> Yabbut... the aforementioned cats make me reluctant to just
>> scatter seeds. I occasionally think I'd like to put in a little
>> pond or other water source for critters, and then I remember the
>> cats. (I don't mind the wild predators so much because I just
>> figure that is nature in action.)

>
> Put your seeds and pond in an open area away from shrubbery. I toss
> seeds out my office window, the nearest shrubbery is some forty feet
> away, no place nearby for a cat to lurk. Lots of birds eat the seeds
> I toss on the ground:
> http://i39.tinypic.com/9zy1d2.jpg
> My birdbath is also out in the open, there is nowhere for a cat to
> lurk where the birds can't spot it first. My bird bath is a large
> round plastic snow coaster... it's on the ground with a flat stone in
> it... it's the perfect geometry with gradually sloping sides, is made
> strond to susrvive snow coasting, hold gallons of water, is very easy
> to clean, and costs under $5. I have mine under a small tree that is
> fenced with chicken wire to protect it from deer until it grows
> larger, witll take many years as it's a very slow growing tree. The
> wire at teh bottom is high enough for me to do weeding but makes it
> impossible for a cat to pounce even if they could sneak close enough.
> When I dump the old water it waters the tree and fertilizes too.
> http://i41.tinypic.com/2m2f2mp.jpg
> The birds typically enter and leave from the top, usually use the tree
> branches for launching in or out, and there are lots of birds, they
> warn each other of danger, no way a cat can snatch a bird. Objects in
> this photo are actually a lot further apart than they appear.
> http://i44.tinypic.com/2ckaw3.jpg
> And bird's hearing is excellent, they actually hear my footsteps
> inside the house as I'm approaching the door to come out to feed them,
> they all depart before I open the sliders to my deck. My cats spend
> hours watching the birds feed on my deck, the birds see them but don't
> seem bothered as long as they are on the other side of the glass.
>
> However my barn cats hunt, catch some critter every day, and eat it,
> but they are ferral and that's how ferral cats survive... Newt now
> eats canned food but Cali, the female, is the huntress and only eats
> some dried, this morning when I went to the barn I discarded a
> chipmonk's head and tail, she ate all the rest. Usually there's a few
> feathers but she catches all kinds of critters. One plus of having
> her in the barn is there are no more birds up in the rafters crapping
> on my tractor. And she's an excellent climber, she can scoot up the
> thirty feet into rafters in seconds... that's where she typically
> hides when she hears me approach and won't come down until I leave.
> Way up in the peak on the precarious catwalk is where she had her
> kittens. Newt is much tamer, he lets me pet him... I've never seen
> him climb up to the rafters, he's stockier, heavier, much more
> powerful, and very ferocious, he lets no other cat into his barn but
> Cali. Newt stands ready to fight, Cali flees. So far no other cat
> has taken him on, and I see plenty approach the barn during the day,
> I'm sure there are more at night that I don't see. Newt is a handsome
> boy, I wish I could have him as a housecat but he's too territorial,
> he'd kill my other cats... he'd not be happy indoors anyway. But he's
> well protected from the elements, is well fed and cared for, even has
> a nice cozy cave... and has access to all the outdoors he could want
> and isn't near any road traffic.
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First, Newt is VERY handsome. Wow1

Your birdbath is inside the stakes, and I will ponder how I can do
that here. I do have some fruit trees that are caged, also to
keep deer away (although I have seen deer all of once), so that
might work.

I was thinking that having water/feed in a setting that included
impenetrable bushes on one side would help the birds, but maybe not.

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On 7/23/2013 11:33 AM, merryb wrote:
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> I have seen chocolate covered ones here.
>


I've always had a fondness for chocolate covered gels and marshmallows.
It's a shame that I have diabetes. OTOH, it's a shame that I don't have
bird wings and can't fly.
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On 7/22/2013 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:

> Did you ever get to Harris Teeter for the 69 cents/lb chicken leg quarters?
> I went Saturday morning and looked and looked in the chicken section but
> couldn't find them. I finally went up to the front desk and asked about
> them. They were in a frozen chest freezer.
>

No, I never made the trip. Other stuff came up. Bummer.

> I have never seen frozen raw chicken before and I was disappointed. What's
> with that? I'm guessing that the fresh chicken was getting near the sell by
> date, so they froze them and put them on sale.
>
> Anyway, I bought one package (6 thighs and 6 drums) but they are frozen
> together solid like a block of granite. I'll have to thaw them just to
> separate them. I guess I'll just have the cook the entire package next
> Saturday morning.
>

You actually can refreeze, it will affect the texture only minimally.
Maybe just thaw enough to get them apart and then refreeze.

> This just re-enforces my bad opinion of Harris Teeter. I hadn't been there
> in about a year and I'll never go there again.


Good to know. I haven't tried one yet, and maybe I won't.

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> On 7/23/2013 11:33 AM, merryb wrote:
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>> I have seen chocolate covered ones here.
>>

>
> I've always had a fondness for chocolate covered gels and marshmallows.
> It's a shame that I have diabetes. OTOH, it's a shame that I don't have
> bird wings and can't fly.


Wonderfully pragmatic)

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On 7/23/2013 11:38 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 7/23/2013 11:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> lol you keep up those traditions girl)) It's in your blood don't ever
>> forget) We say 'Stoor'
>>

> Yes, dust bunnies are stoor; really mucky, wet stuff is clarts.


I had clarts when the freezer drain got clogged and was leaking. When
the repairman moved it to replace the drain line the wet stuff behind it
was clarty.

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> On 7/23/2013 11:38 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 7/23/2013 11:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> lol you keep up those traditions girl)) It's in your blood don't ever
>>> forget) We say 'Stoor'
>>>

>> Yes, dust bunnies are stoor; really mucky, wet stuff is clarts.

>
> I had clarts when the freezer drain got clogged and was leaking. When the
> repairman moved it to replace the drain line the wet stuff behind it was
> clarty.


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Cheryl wrote:
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> On 7/22/2013 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:
> > Anyway, I bought one package (6 thighs and 6 drums) but they are frozen
> > together solid like a block of granite. I'll have to thaw them just to
> > separate them. I guess I'll just have the cook the entire package next
> > Saturday morning.
> >

> You actually can refreeze, it will affect the texture only minimally.
> Maybe just thaw enough to get them apart and then refreeze.


I'm off work today and the temps are 10 degrees F less than usual. good day
to cook in oven with the windows open.

I've got that package of frozen chicken quarters out thawing. I'll thaw
them just enough to break the 6 in half, then put the other 3 back in the
freezer.

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:34:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> On 7/22/2013 1:22 PM, Gary wrote:
>> > Anyway, I bought one package (6 thighs and 6 drums) but they are frozen
>> > together solid like a block of granite. I'll have to thaw them just to
>> > separate them. I guess I'll just have the cook the entire package next
>> > Saturday morning.
>> >

>> You actually can refreeze, it will affect the texture only minimally.
>> Maybe just thaw enough to get them apart and then refreeze.

>
>I'm off work today and the temps are 10 degrees F less than usual. good day
>to cook in oven with the windows open.
>
>I've got that package of frozen chicken quarters out thawing.


Which quarters... T or A?

>I'll thaw them just enough to break the 6 in half, then put the
>other 3 back in the freezer.


It'd be a whole lot higher IQ to cook all 6 and then freeze half... so
why didn't you freeze them in two packages to begin with... see my
first seven woids.

More importantly how will you cook them (recipe?)... I wouldn't light
my oven for a measly 3/4 of a chicken even in the dead of winter when
it's -10ºF. You'd be a lot smarter to do a stovetop dish:
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On 7/25/2013 10:36 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:34:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> I'll thaw them just enough to break the 6 in half, then put the
>> other 3 back in the freezer.

>
> It'd be a whole lot higher IQ to cook all 6 and then freeze half... so
> why didn't you freeze them in two packages to begin with... see my
> first seven woids.
>

The store where he bought them sold the leg quarters (legs & thighs,
still connected) *frozen*. How can you separate them to repackage
without partially thawing them?

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jmcquown wrote:
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> On 7/25/2013 10:36 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:34:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> I'll thaw them just enough to break the 6 in half, then put the
> >> other 3 back in the freezer.

> >
> > It'd be a whole lot higher IQ to cook all 6 and then freeze half... so
> > why didn't you freeze them in two packages to begin with... see my
> > first seven woids.
> >

> The store where he bought them sold the leg quarters (legs & thighs,
> still connected) *frozen*. How can you separate them to repackage
> without partially thawing them?


I was able divide the pack in half after minimal thawing and a lot of
hacking this morning. Half went back into the freezer. The 3 leg quarters
that I kept out were still welded together like stone so I put them into the
fridge to thaw. I'll cook them tomorrow.

No way was I going to cook all 6 leg quarters. They are large - 7lbs total.

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:48:25 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/25/2013 10:36 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:34:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> I'll thaw them just enough to break the 6 in half, then put the
>>> other 3 back in the freezer.

>>
>> It'd be a whole lot higher IQ to cook all 6 and then freeze half... so
>> why didn't you freeze them in two packages to begin with... see my
>> first seven woids.
>>

>The store where he bought them sold the leg quarters (legs & thighs,
>still connected) *frozen*.


I've never seen chicken parts sold frozen.


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> I've never seen chicken parts sold frozen.


It was a first for me and I was NOT happy about it.

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On 7/25/2013 7:00 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:48:25 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/25/2013 10:36 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:34:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll thaw them just enough to break the 6 in half, then put the
>>>> other 3 back in the freezer.
>>>
>>> It'd be a whole lot higher IQ to cook all 6 and then freeze half... so
>>> why didn't you freeze them in two packages to begin with... see my
>>> first seven woids.
>>>

>> The store where he bought them sold the leg quarters (legs & thighs,
>> still connected) *frozen*.

>
> I've never seen chicken parts sold frozen.
>

He got a "deal" at 69 cents/lb from Harris Teeter (a regional grocery
store). Apparently they had some chicken legs that were about to
"expire". Rather than throw them away they froze them and sold them for
a lower price.

I gather other places ("club stores") sell frozen boneless skinless
chicken breasts in bags.

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> Which quarters... T or A?


These are leg quarters. I guess that would be "A"

> More importantly how will you cook them (recipe?)... I wouldn't light
> my oven for a measly 3/4 of a chicken even in the dead of winter when
> it's -10ºF.


I will separate the leg quarters prior to cooking. 3 thighs and 3 drums.
These things are so large, I *hope* they will all fit in my 9 x 13 pyrex
dish. Anyway, just those 3 of each totals about 3.5 pounds. Plenty for me
to cook at one time. That will give me 2 meals with sides, and a generous
snack. Probably a chicken sandwich too.

I made up a batch of coleslaw this morning which I really love. I found that
recipe 10 years ago or so.

Once I go to the bank when it opens at 9am, I'll also cook up a batch of
enhanced pork and beans. To a 28oz can of pork & beans, I add one large
chopped onion, one small chopped green pepper and about 2 tablespoons of
brown sugar. Once that simmers for awhile, it's good. Very good.

As far a cooking the chicken... I use the old Betty Crocker recipe for
oven-fried chicken. Oven set at 425F. Lightly grease your 9x13 pan with
butter. Put chicken pieces skin side down and cook for 25 minutes. Then
turn them over and continue to cook for 20-25 minutes depending on size.
This time I'm adding bbq sauce to both sides as they cook. yum.

Oven cooking is certainly not as good as grilling but it's a pretty darn
good alternative!

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:22:37 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Which quarters... T or A?

>
>These are leg quarters. I guess that would be "A"
>
>> More importantly how will you cook them (recipe?)... I wouldn't light
>> my oven for a measly 3/4 of a chicken even in the dead of winter when
>> it's -10ºF.

>
>I will separate the leg quarters prior to cooking. 3 thighs and 3 drums.
>These things are so large, I *hope* they will all fit in my 9 x 13 pyrex
>dish. Anyway, just those 3 of each totals about 3.5 pounds. Plenty for me
>to cook at one time. That will give me 2 meals with sides, and a generous
>snack. Probably a chicken sandwich too.
>
>I made up a batch of coleslaw this morning which I really love. I found that
>recipe 10 years ago or so.
>
>Once I go to the bank when it opens at 9am, I'll also cook up a batch of
>enhanced pork and beans. To a 28oz can of pork & beans, I add one large
>chopped onion, one small chopped green pepper and about 2 tablespoons of
>brown sugar. Once that simmers for awhile, it's good. Very good.
>
>As far a cooking the chicken... I use the old Betty Crocker recipe for
>oven-fried chicken. Oven set at 425F. Lightly grease your 9x13 pan with
>butter. Put chicken pieces skin side down and cook for 25 minutes. Then
>turn them over and continue to cook for 20-25 minutes depending on size.
>This time I'm adding bbq sauce to both sides as they cook. yum.
>
>Oven cooking is certainly not as good as grilling but it's a pretty darn
>good alternative!
>
>G.


Good except for the butter.... buttered poultry, besides not being
kosher, is TIAD. I still would've cooked the entire package of
chicken... and you really ought to get yourself a metal roasting
pan... if short on space and/or funds get a porcelainized carbon steel
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:22:37 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> I will separate the leg quarters prior to cooking. 3 thighs and 3 drums.
> These things are so large, I *hope* they will all fit in my 9 x 13 pyrex
> dish. Anyway, just those 3 of each totals about 3.5 pounds. Plenty for me
> to cook at one time.


Separate the legs from the thighs and you'll have an easier time
arranging them in your baking pan. Remember, those thighs will have
bone on them that you don't normally get with individual thighs so
there isn't as much meat as you may think.

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> On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:22:37 -0400, Gary > wrote:
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> > I will separate the leg quarters prior to cooking. 3 thighs and 3 drums.
> > These things are so large, I *hope* they will all fit in my 9 x 13 pyrex
> > dish. Anyway, just those 3 of each totals about 3.5 pounds. Plenty for me
> > to cook at one time.

>
> Separate the legs from the thighs and you'll have an easier time
> arranging them in your baking pan.


LOL! Thanks
That's what I meant when I said I will separate them. As they were large,
the 6 pieces filled my 9 x 13 baking dish. They turned out delicious with
the bbq sauce.

> Remember, those thighs will have
> bone on them that you don't normally get with individual thighs so
> there isn't as much meat as you may think.


You might be thinking the leg quarters that have backbone attached? These
are not. They are just thighs and legs. They are very meaty too. They are
actually a bit too large for cooking individually. To me, a chicken this
large would have been better to buy (and cook) whole with stuffing.

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> Gary wrote:
> >As far a cooking the chicken... I use the old Betty Crocker recipe for
> >oven-fried chicken. Oven set at 425F. Lightly grease your 9x13 pan with
> >butter. Put chicken pieces skin side down and cook for 25 minutes. Then
> >turn them over and continue to cook for 20-25 minutes depending on size.
> >This time I'm adding bbq sauce to both sides as they cook. yum.


>
> Good except for the butter.... buttered poultry, besides not being
> kosher, is TIAD.


Blame "Betty Crocker" for the butter.
It's part of the "oven fried chicken" recipe.
The thin smear of butter on the bottom of the dish supposedly
helps to crisp the skin. It's not much, maybe 1 TBS of softened butter
and I coat the bottom of the dish using a paper towel.

> I still would've cooked the entire package of
> chicken...


That would have been too much leftovers for me.
I ate one thigh and one drum for dinner last night (along with sides).
It was plenty for me and probably too much for many eaters.
The darn pieces are giant, I tell you.

I like leftovers fine (and I still have 2 thighs and 2 drums left),
but I like the chicken best when it's still hot from the oven.

> and you really ought to get yourself a metal roasting
> pan...


I do have a large carbon steel roasting pan. It's not a true oval shape but
more like a cross between a rectangle and oval. At widest points it's 13.5 x
18 x 3" deep. So far, I've only used it for roasting whole turkeys during
the holidays. It holds a 20 pounder easily.

I don't understand what you and Julie have against pyrex dishes. I have
heard that they are cheaply made these days but mine is about 35 years old.
I use it often enough and it's still going and going. It's my favorite
baking dish for chicken and lasagna.

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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:05:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> You might be thinking the leg quarters that have backbone attached?


I think that's what they call it, but I never see a flat bone like
that when I butcher my own chicken. Beats me what the heck it is!

> These are not. They are just thighs and legs.


I'd love to find those, because I'm always disappointed by the
attached leg & thighs I buy.

> They are very meaty too. They are
> actually a bit too large for cooking individually. To me, a chicken this
> large would have been better to buy (and cook) whole with stuffing.


Next time, put your stuffing underneath all those legs and thighs...
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On 7/27/2013 5:23 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:05:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> You might be thinking the leg quarters that have backbone attached?

>
> I think that's what they call it, but I never see a flat bone like
> that when I butcher my own chicken. Beats me what the heck it is!
>
>> These are not. They are just thighs and legs.

>
> I'd love to find those, because I'm always disappointed by the
> attached leg & thighs I buy.
>
>> They are very meaty too. They are
>> actually a bit too large for cooking individually. To me, a chicken this
>> large would have been better to buy (and cook) whole with stuffing.

>
> Next time, put your stuffing underneath all those legs and thighs...
> maybe moisten it with some chicken broth. I bet you'll love it.
>


That's a brilliant way to go.

When we do turkey the stuffing resides in a separate dish with turkey
legs on top of it.

The moistness and flavor is always spot on.
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