Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.

On 7/12/2013 10:53 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
> What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.
>

Couldn't even find that name on Ebay, insignia and metropolitan yes, no
cosmopolitan.

At that price, caveat emptor.

Amazon's ratings were generally 4 star on even their cheap sets, so who
knows?

Does this one float your boat?

http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutler...f=pd_sbs_hg_53

On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:04:57 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:

>
> Does this one float your boat?
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutler...f=pd_sbs_hg_53

Depends on how ppl here rate CC on the whole.

On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:53:23 PM UTC-4, Kalmia wrote:
> Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
>
> What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.

Chicago cutlery is very poor quality. You considering buying it suggests that it would be wise to invest in a class on knife skills. This would be money and time well invested.

I also suggest that you go into a kitchen shop and ask to try their knives. Many good shops will allow this and have a cutting board and a few vegetables handy. You can then directly compare a cheap knife to an expensive knife.

There are very few knives that you actually use in a kitchen. Although I have more than most, the essentials are a paring knife, chef's knife, boning knife and a cleaver. These will cover just about everything you need to do.

I make do with what I consider to be fairly ordinary knives made by Trident Wusthoff. In my opinion, considering I will keep them for many years, they are a good compromise between quality and cost.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 7/12/2013 12:17 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:04:57 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>
>>
>> Does this one float your boat?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutler...f=pd_sbs_hg_53
>
> Depends on how ppl here rate CC on the whole.
>

I like their steak knives. Their big knives are not so good.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
>What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.

I've had my Chicago Cutlery Walnut Tradition knives since the early
80s maybe late 70s. At that time, I had to pay way more than they cost
now. At that time the wood handles were finer made. Anyway, I like
my old knives, but in looking at the new CC, I would shop around for
something else.
Janet US

On 7/12/2013 11:17 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:04:57 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>
>>
>> Does this one float your boat?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutler...f=pd_sbs_hg_53
>
> Depends on how ppl here rate CC on the whole.


Sure.

If you browse around Amazon you'll find other sets with more than one
rating review, though to me the construction and handles on that one
looked very ergonomic.

I am using at present a set of Chicago Cutlery wood handled paring
knives which I purchased at BB&Y 10 years ago with no complaints and no
intention of retiring them any time soon.

The steel is quality, sharpens and holds and edge well, and the price
was right.

Half way through this experience I was given a set of all metal hollow
grip CC steak knives to replace these. I found the weighting to be
terrible, the handle useless, and they garage sale-d away.

I can't speak to their larger Chef's knives as I prefer Henckels in that
realm.

On 7/12/2013 11:24 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:53:23 PM UTC-4, Kalmia wrote:
>> Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
>>
>> What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.
>
> Chicago cutlery is very poor quality. You considering buying it suggests that it would be wise to invest in a class on knife skills. This would be money and time well invested.
>
> I also suggest that you go into a kitchen shop and ask to try their knives. Many good shops will allow this and have a cutting board and a few vegetables handy. You can then directly compare a cheap knife to an expensive knife.
>
> There are very few knives that you actually use in a kitchen. Although I have more than most, the essentials are a paring knife, chef's knife, boning knife and a cleaver. These will cover just about everything you need to do.
>
> I make do with what I consider to be fairly ordinary knives made by Trident Wusthoff. In my opinion, considering I will keep them for many years, they are a good compromise between quality and cost.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
I'm going to have to disagree on the "very poor quality" review.

My CC wood handle paring knives are a decade in with no complaints.

I wouldn't buy their chef's knives, but for paring or steak knives I
have been pleased.

On 2013-07-12, Janet Wilder > wrote:

>> Depends on how ppl here rate CC on the whole.

My CC carbon steel butcher knife had no problem effortlessly relieving
me of the tip of my left index finger. Don't drink and dice!

nb

On 7/12/2013 11:29 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 7/12/2013 12:17 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:04:57 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Does this one float your boat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutler...f=pd_sbs_hg_53
>>>
>>
>> Depends on how ppl here rate CC on the whole.
>>
>
> I like their steak knives. Their big knives are not so good.
>
I think that is likely a reasonable take.

I'd mix and match from open stock, and buy what fits your hand best.

I like a rounder more ergonomic handle, so Henckel works well, and their
lower cost series which are made in Spain are very nice knives in their
own right.

Wusthoff has a harder edge handle, not to my liking.

I've been tempted by close-out sales to try a Ceramic chef's knife, but
still remain cautious.

I'm not even sure how one sharpens one, certainly not with a wet stone I
bet.

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
> What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.

Have you seen the ATK segment on knife sets?
http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equi...sp?docid=32203
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQI3T6xAnoQ
The short version is you're better off buying knives ala carte.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:38:30 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>
> >
>
> I'm going to have to disagree on the "very poor quality" review.
>
>
>
> My CC wood handle paring knives are a decade in with no complaints.
>
>
>
> I wouldn't buy their chef's knives, but for paring or steak knives I
>
> have been pleased.

It's true that paring knives are different. I find that the way they fit in the hand (personal preference) is more important than the blade quality.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 7/12/2013 12:21 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:38:30 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm going to have to disagree on the "very poor quality" review.
>>
>>
>>
>> My CC wood handle paring knives are a decade in with no complaints.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't buy their chef's knives, but for paring or steak knives I
>>
>> have been pleased.
>
> It's true that paring knives are different. I find that the way they fit in the hand (personal preference) is more important than the blade quality.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>

That's precisely my feeling as well, your hand is doing the cutting,
make it a good fit and avoid any accidents.

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:33:30 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

>On 7/12/2013 11:17 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:04:57 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Does this one float your boat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutler...f=pd_sbs_hg_53
>>
>> Depends on how ppl here rate CC on the whole.
>
>
>Sure.
>
>If you browse around Amazon you'll find other sets with more than one
>rating review, though to me the construction and handles on that one
>looked very ergonomic.
>
>I am using at present a set of Chicago Cutlery wood handled paring
>knives which I purchased at BB&Y 10 years ago with no complaints and no
>intention of retiring them any time soon.
>
>The steel is quality, sharpens and holds and edge well, and the price
>was right.
>
>Half way through this experience I was given a set of all metal hollow
>grip CC steak knives to replace these. I found the weighting to be
>terrible, the handle useless, and they garage sale-d away.
>
>I can't speak to their larger Chef's knives as I prefer Henckels in that
>realm.

I love my big CC chef's knife. It's my workhorse. Also love my
utility knife and filet knife.
Janet US

On 7/12/13 12:53 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak knives.
> What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.

A step above Cutco.

-- Larry

I have not ever had a Chicago knife that I thought was worth the money, little enough that it is. I paid over $70 for one of my Henckels knives, and it was/is well worth the money. I think "cheap" when I see Chicago Cutlery, sorry.

You should pick out your knives one by one, regardless of who made them, based on comfort and quality--not by the set. YMMV.

N.

My Cutco from the 50's are as good as any Henckels and much better than CC. I don't know what the newer ones are like.

N.

Dont think we could afford that brand but my Mama could make an Old Hickory butcher knife walk and talk. If there is something she could not make it do..I aint figgered out what yet. Now trusting this is the regular old timey low carbon stuff? If not..I take all this back. If you want some fancy SS items Forschner/Victorinox is the only way to fly. Its made by yumppin yimmines in Sweden. They make much better knives than us..or the krauts...or the Christian Slave laborers in Red China. Keep us posted about this. Thanks. Let me know if you need a link to buy some.

In article >,
Kalmia > wrote:

> Please rate from excellent to lousy and anywhere in between. I'm looking at
> a 15 piece set on ebay. Prices run in the $50s to $70s. Included 6 steak
> knives.
> What think you? Known as the "Cosmopolitan" set.

I received an inexpensive CC santoku for xmas one year and it has become
my favorite 'chef's' knife. It takes and holds an edge very well. I am
usually cooking for just one so we are not talking restaurant work
conditions. When I was working in restaurants, Victorinox was very
popular and held up very well.

D.M.

On 7/12/2013 1:24 PM, casa bona wrote:
> On 7/12/2013 12:21 PM, Helpful person wrote:
>> On Friday, July 12, 2013 1:38:30 PM UTC-4, casa bona wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm going to have to disagree on the "very poor quality" review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My CC wood handle paring knives are a decade in with no complaints.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't buy their chef's knives, but for paring or steak knives I
>>>
>>> have been pleased.
>>
>> It's true that paring knives are different. I find that the way they
>> fit in the hand (personal preference) is more important than the blade
>> quality.
>>
>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>
>
> That's precisely my feeling as well, your hand is doing the cutting,
> make it a good fit and avoid any accidents.

I don't care how highly rated a knife is, it has to feel comfortable in
my hand or I won't use it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

I am still using Google Groups on this iPad, notbob, so, no, my ISP does not allow me to use a regular newsreader.

The iPad doesn't have quote options under the Groups heading that I can find. I also find nothing in the way of "tools" in Google Groups on the iPad. When I am on my laptop, I can quote parts of posts.

N.

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:07:05 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> I am still using Google Groups on this iPad, notbob, so, no, my ISP does not allow me to use a regular newsreader.
>
>
>
> The iPad doesn't have quote options under the Groups heading that I can find. I also find nothing in the way of "tools" in Google Groups on the iPad. When I am on my laptop, I can quote parts of posts.
>
>
>
> N.

try switching to the desktop interface

On 2013-07-14, Nancy2 > wrote:
> I am still using Google Groups....

Whatever floats yer boat. Toodles.....

nb

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:27:50 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:07:05 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> > I am still using Google Groups on this iPad, notbob, so, no, my ISP does not allow me to use a regular newsreader.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The iPad doesn't have quote options under the Groups heading that I can find. I also find nothing in the way of "tools" in Google Groups on the iPad. When I am on my laptop, I can quote parts of posts.
>
> >
> > N.
>
>
>
> try switching to the desktop interface

I don't know what that means. (I'm on my laptop now - are the line lengths o.k.?)

N.

> IME, no ISP I've come across has offered a built in newsreader along

I wasn't asking for a built-in newsreader. I asked CL for information to fill in so I could use Agent. They said they don't support newsreaders.
> information you'll need from your ISP is what to enter as inbound and
>
> outbound email information.
>
> http://qwest.centurylink.com/interne...-settings.html

>
> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>
> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>
> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you can
>
> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>
> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>
> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank, you're not stuck with
>
> monthly payments and you have the block until you use it up - no
>
> matter how long it takes... days, months or even years (which is a
>
> sweet deal for light users).


It isn't the cost - I wanted to buy Agent. It's the fact that I can't fill in the technical stuff because CenturyLink won't tell me how to install a newsreader, saying they don't support newsreaders. According to the link you sent, they do. Maybe the chat person I had didn't know what I was asking. Anyway, I'll pursue it when I'm totally bored and feel like spending a half day on it. Thanks.

Meanwhile, I will continue to use GG and hope that posters like nb just KF me.

N.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 05:59:57 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>
>> IME, no ISP I've come across has offered a built in newsreader along
>
>I wasn't asking for a built-in newsreader. I asked CL for information to fill in so I could use Agent. They said they don't support newsreaders.
>> information you'll need from your ISP is what to enter as inbound and
>>
>> outbound email information.
>>
>> http://qwest.centurylink.com/interne...-settings.html
>
>>
>> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>>
>> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>>
>> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you can
>>
>> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>>
>> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>>
>> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank, you're not stuck with
>>
>> monthly payments and you have the block until you use it up - no
>>
>> matter how long it takes... days, months or even years (which is a
>>
>> sweet deal for light users).
>
>
>It isn't the cost - I wanted to buy Agent. It's the fact that I can't fill in the technical stuff because CenturyLink won't tell me how to install a newsreader, saying they don't support newsreaders. According to the link you sent, they do. Maybe the chat person I had didn't know what I was asking. Anyway, I'll pursue it when I'm totally bored and feel like spending a half day on it. Thanks.
>
>Meanwhile, I will continue to use GG and hope that posters like nb just KF me.
>
>N.
I'm dumb as a post as far as computer stuff goes --really, but
Did you already download the free trial of Agent to your computer?
There isn't a lot of 'technical stuff'. It's been a long time since I
installed Agent, but I'll bet anything that what I did was fill in the
stuff that I knew and then called my ISP and asked for the answer to
the specific question(s) on the installation. Most(all) ISP techs --
as well as friends and neighbors -- don't have a clue what a
newsreader or newsgroup is so you will get negative answers.. I don't
know if I helped, but good luck, you can do it. Wait until you are
not feeling harried and try again. Good luck.
Janet US

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 05:59:57 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:



>
>It isn't the cost - I wanted to buy Agent. It's the fact that I can't fill in the technical stuff because CenturyLink won't tell me how to install a newsreader, saying they don't support newsreaders. According to the link you sent, they do. Maybe the chat person I had didn't know what I was asking. Anyway, I'll pursue it when I'm totally bored and feel like spending a half day on it. Thanks.
>
>Meanwhile, I will continue to use GG and hope that posters like nb just KF me.
>
>N.


You don't need your ISP to install Agent. Download it. Install it,
the do the simple setup.

You need a news provider. Free like eternal-september or a pay like
Giganews for $3 a month. Fill in the server name and a couple of
things and off you go.

Thanks, Ed, it's " filling in a couple of things" that stopped me, because CenturyLink wouldn't give me the info I needed, thinking, I guess, that I was asking about a newsreader that was included in their wi-fi service, not one I wanted to pay for and install. I'll get around to it when I feel like it. I'm tired of the whole topic now.

N.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:59:03 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:



>>> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>>>
>>> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>>>
>>> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you can
>>>
>>> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>>>
>>> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>>>
>>> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank,

>I'm dumb as a post as far as computer stuff goes --really, but
>Did you already download the free trial of Agent to your computer?
>There isn't a lot of 'technical stuff'. It's been a long time since I
>installed Agent, but I'll bet anything that what I did was fill in the
>stuff that I knew and then called my ISP and asked for the answer to
>the specific question(s) on the installation. Most(all) ISP techs --
>as well as friends and neighbors -- don't have a clue what a
>newsreader or newsgroup is so you will get negative answers.. I don't
>know if I helped, but good luck, you can do it. Wait until you are
>not feeling harried and try again. Good luck.
>Janet US

Both Forte Agent) and Giganews have tech support people that will help
you. You can also ask here and you won't get too beat up for being
off topic.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:59:03 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>>>>
>>>> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>>>>
>>>> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you can
>>>>
>>>> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>>>>
>>>> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank,
>
>>I'm dumb as a post as far as computer stuff goes --really, but
>>Did you already download the free trial of Agent to your computer?
>>There isn't a lot of 'technical stuff'. It's been a long time since I
>>installed Agent, but I'll bet anything that what I did was fill in the
>>stuff that I knew and then called my ISP and asked for the answer to
>>the specific question(s) on the installation. Most(all) ISP techs --
>>as well as friends and neighbors -- don't have a clue what a
>>newsreader or newsgroup is so you will get negative answers.. I don't
>>know if I helped, but good luck, you can do it. Wait until you are
>>not feeling harried and try again. Good luck.
>>Janet US
>
> Both Forte Agent) and Giganews have tech support people that will help
> you. You can also ask here and you won't get too beat up for being
> off topic.

what munchies can you recommend for when you are setting up computers and
newsreaders, etc?

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:42:33 -0700, Pico Rico wrote:

> what munchies can you recommend for when you are setting up computers and
> newsreaders, etc?

Mountain Dew and Pringles.

The Mountain Dew has caffeine without being as horrible as an energy
drink. Use the Pringles can to extend your wifi with a "cantenna":
<http://www.binarywolf.com/249/pringles_cantenna.htm>

--

-Jeff B.


"Excuse me.
I don't mean to impose,
but I am the Ocean."

~ The Salton Sea

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:08:14 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Thanks, Ed, it's " filling in a couple of things" that stopped me, because CenturyLink wouldn't give me the info I needed, thinking, I guess, that I was asking about a newsreader that was included in their wi-fi service, not one I wanted to pay for and install. I'll get around to it when I feel like it. I'm tired of the whole topic now.
>
>N.

The big ISP's got rid of newsgroups a couple of years back. Some
people sought out other sources, many just stopped posting not knowing
what to do. At least you stuck with it.

One day when you have the time you can do it a step at time. Download
and install the reader, then go to the setup. Long term, you'll be
glad you did.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 05:59:57 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> It isn't the cost - I wanted to buy Agent. It's the fact that I can't fill in the technical stuff because CenturyLink won't tell me how to install a newsreader, saying they don't support newsreaders. According to the link you sent, they do. Maybe the chat person I had didn't know what I was asking. Anyway, I'll pursue it when I'm totally bored and feel like spending a half day on it. Thanks.

You will still need a separate news group provider, either for pay or
for free. APN is low cost, but not very good. I used it for a few
years, but finally gave up on it.
>
> Meanwhile, I will continue to use GG and hope that posters like nb just KF me.
>
If it's not in their script, it doesn't exist. What you have to do is
start talking to them as if it's an email program, because the
information is the same... ask them if they support Outlook and the
answer should be yes. The only part that's different is where you
fill in the name of your usenet news server, which is something they
won't know anyway.

Did you know there's a Forte Agent news group? They're very helpful
and don't mind answering beginner questions.

alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent

The other option is Google. I'm always amazed by how many basic
support questions it can answer. For instance, type in "SMTP for
centurylink" and see what pops up.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:20:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:59:03 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>>>>
>>>> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>>>>
>>>> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you can
>>>>
>>>> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>>>>
>>>> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank,
>
>>I'm dumb as a post as far as computer stuff goes --really, but
>>Did you already download the free trial of Agent to your computer?
>>There isn't a lot of 'technical stuff'. It's been a long time since I
>>installed Agent, but I'll bet anything that what I did was fill in the
>>stuff that I knew and then called my ISP and asked for the answer to
>>the specific question(s) on the installation. Most(all) ISP techs --
>>as well as friends and neighbors -- don't have a clue what a
>>newsreader or newsgroup is so you will get negative answers.. I don't
>>know if I helped, but good luck, you can do it. Wait until you are
>>not feeling harried and try again. Good luck.
>>Janet US
>
>Both Forte Agent) and Giganews have tech support people that will help
>you. You can also ask here and you won't get too beat up for being
>off topic.

that's true about the tech support and it is generally very quick.
Janet US

On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:42:33 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:59:03 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>>>>>
>>>>> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>>>>>
>>>>> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you can
>>>>>
>>>>> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>>>>>
>>>>> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank,
>>
>>>I'm dumb as a post as far as computer stuff goes --really, but
>>>Did you already download the free trial of Agent to your computer?
>>>There isn't a lot of 'technical stuff'. It's been a long time since I
>>>installed Agent, but I'll bet anything that what I did was fill in the
>>>stuff that I knew and then called my ISP and asked for the answer to
>>>the specific question(s) on the installation. Most(all) ISP techs --
>>>as well as friends and neighbors -- don't have a clue what a
>>>newsreader or newsgroup is so you will get negative answers.. I don't
>>>know if I helped, but good luck, you can do it. Wait until you are
>>>not feeling harried and try again. Good luck.
>>>Janet US
>>
>> Both Forte Agent) and Giganews have tech support people that will help
>> you. You can also ask here and you won't get too beat up for being
>> off topic.
>
>what munchies can you recommend for when you are setting up computers and
>newsreaders, etc?
>
I don't do munchies, I go for Kahlua. My husband knows if the Kahlua
is out, he should be out too.
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:42:33 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:59:03 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> If you're interested in the slightest at giving a usenet provider
>>>>>>
>>>>>> another shot, you can check to see if Astraweb carries the newsgroups
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you want to read. They make it very easy to do and apparently you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also request that they carry whatever it is you don't see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.news.astraweb.com/index.html If you decide to take the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> plunge, $10 for 25GB won't break the bank,
>>>
>>>>I'm dumb as a post as far as computer stuff goes --really, but
>>>>Did you already download the free trial of Agent to your computer?
>>>>There isn't a lot of 'technical stuff'. It's been a long time since I
>>>>installed Agent, but I'll bet anything that what I did was fill in the
>>>>stuff that I knew and then called my ISP and asked for the answer to
>>>>the specific question(s) on the installation. Most(all) ISP techs --
>>>>as well as friends and neighbors -- don't have a clue what a
>>>>newsreader or newsgroup is so you will get negative answers.. I don't
>>>>know if I helped, but good luck, you can do it. Wait until you are
>>>>not feeling harried and try again. Good luck.
>>>>Janet US
>>>
>>> Both Forte Agent) and Giganews have tech support people that will help
>>> you. You can also ask here and you won't get too beat up for being
>>> off topic.
>>
>>what munchies can you recommend for when you are setting up computers and
>>newsreaders, etc?
>>
> I don't do munchies, I go for Kahlua. My husband knows if the Kahlua
> is out, he should be out too.

lol
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Nancy2 > wrote:

> I wasn't asking for a built-in newsreader. I asked CL for information to
> fill in so I could use Agent. They said they don't support newsreaders.

Nancy, you happen to be completely and utterly clueless. Just own up -
and some people will actually want to help instead of just killfiling
you, as you surely deserve - because your posts are hardly readable.

Your ISP no longer has anything to do with your Usenet access. You will
have to find your own newsserver, which is a different thing from your
newsreader - which you will also have to find on your own.

You seem to want Agent, which you used to use before, if I remember
correctly. Very good - buy it and install it. Now you will have to
find a newsserver, in other words, a Usenet access provider. There are
some such out there, some free and some requiring a payment. I have
been using Individial.net (formerly CIS-DFN) for many years. It costs
10 euros (ca. $13) a year. It is surely the best-maintained and most
reliable newsserver of them all, but it does not offer binary newsgroups
- which is a GOOD thing. What it does offer, among other things, is
good illustrated instructions on how to set up many different
newsreaders to gain access. Whatever newsserver you choose, whether
Individual.net or another one, you will need just two or three things to
fill in: your newsserver address, your userid and your password (and
sometimes userid and password are one and the same), all of which you
will get from your newsserver upon registration.
All the necessary information, including instructions for the
configuration of your newsreader is here
<http://individual.net/config.php>. These instructions can be used for
any other newsserver - just replace newsserver address, userid and
password.

If you want to access Usenet also through your iPad, consider Newsguy or
Newsreader.com, both of which offer Web-based newsreaders, with Newsguy
also offering the usual NNTP access. Newsguy's Web-based newsreader,
primitive though it is, is still vastly superior to the Google Groups
one - the posts are actually readable! - and even offers a rudimentary
killfile capability.

Or.... what the hell... just save up a few pennies, buy some candy and
bribe a five-year-old to set you up with Usenet!

ObFood: Foie de veau Bercy, from the venerable Chez Benoit in the 4th,
in Paris. The recipe is from the times of M. Benoit. Benoit was
succeeded by Michel Petit, his grandson - that is when I was there last
- and later by Alain Ducasse, who now owns the bistro. This simple but
good recipe is from "Paris Bistro Cookery" by Alexander Watt.

Victor

Foie de veau Bercy
(serves 4)

4 thick slices of Calf's liver
1/2 cup Red Wine
6 tablespoons butter
4 shallots, finely chopped
Parsley
Flour
Salt, Pepper

Salt and pepper the slices of liver and dredge them in flour. Cook them
in 4 tablespoons of hot butter in a frying pan. Remove and keep hot on
a serving dish. Add the shallots to the pan and allow to cook gently in
the juice until they soften; they must not colour. Pour in the red wine
and reduce by one-half. Remove the pan and incorporate, bit by bit, the
rest of the butter, stirring well. Pour over the liver and serve with
small steamed potatoes.

On 7/14/2013 2:36 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:27:50 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:07:05 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>> I am still using Google Groups on this iPad, notbob, so, no, my ISP does not allow me to use a regular newsreader.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> The iPad doesn't have quote options under the Groups heading that I can find. I also find nothing in the way of "tools" in Google Groups on the iPad. When I am on my laptop, I can quote parts of posts.
>>
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>>
>>
>> try switching to the desktop interface
>
> I don't know what that means. (I'm on my laptop now - are the line lengths o.k.?)
>
> N.
>



If you're using the mobile interface for Google Groups on your iPad,
quoting when replying is not allowed. Look near the bottom for a link
labeled "Desktop" and click on it to go into new GG desktop interface.
The characters will be smaller and it's not optimized for tablet
formatting but it allows quoting. My experience with GG on the iPad is
that it's pretty sluggish but I hope it works better for you.

Your line lengths are fine in my Thunderbird preview mode. In the reply
mode they run off the screen. It's not a problem for me, other folks
will pitch a fit.

These days it's not a good idea to assume people are able to use a
Windows desktop client newsreader program because a lot of folks don't
use a Microsoft OS. At home, my laptop uses Win7 but my other devices
use Android, iOS, and Chrome OSes. I use GG with these devices.

Victor,, thank you for being so disrespectful. Not. I have said many times that computer stuff is
Chinese to me. (No offense intended.). You needn't insult me by saying what I have said for years. I don't know why posters think they need to make personal attacks for no reason. Does it make you feel superior? Have at it.

Victor,, thank you for being so disrespectful. Not. I have said many times that computer stuff is
Chinese to me. (No offense intended.). You needn't insult me by saying what I have said for years. I don't know why posters think they need to make personal attacks for no reason. Does it make you feel superior? Have at it.