Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
more?

The first such that comes to my mind are those little baked cheese balls
with the stuffed green olives in the middle. I had them at a craft fair and
when I found the recipe in my mom's Betty Crocker cookbook, I was sooo
excited! They were very easy to make but my mom didn't let me make them
often. Were olives very expensive back in the 1970's? They used to ration
them in our house and we usually only had them for special occasions.

Then there was the hot cheese and bacon dip. My friend loved the stuff and
gave me the recipe. I made it countless times for parties until that
horrible day that I bought something called "hoop cheddar". And it wasn't
good! Totally ruined the taste of the dish and I never made it again.

Also used to love something called Duchesses, but they were a bit of a PITA
to make. Basically they were a small savory cream puff that could be filled
with a variety of fillings. I used butter mixed with sharp cheddar and
finely chopped onion. They were very rich.

I also loved cheese balls! Yes, you do still see those in the grocery
stores but people used to make their own. Those and cheese logs. Used to
see them at every party. And now? Never see them.

Rumaki used to be common too. Not really sure what it was. Something
wrapped in bacon. Same friend who gave me the dip recipe loved that and
also loved those meatballs in the grape jelly. No, I never had those.

I also don't see much made with puff pastry these days. I used to make all
sorts of things with that.

What foods do you miss that used to be common?

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:28:44 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
>
> more?
>
>
>
> The first such that comes to my mind are those little baked cheese balls
>
> with the stuffed green olives in the middle. I had them at a craft fair and
>
> when I found the recipe in my mom's Betty Crocker cookbook, I was sooo
>
> excited! They were very easy to make but my mom didn't let me make them
>
> often. Were olives very expensive back in the 1970's? They used to ration
>
> them in our house and we usually only had them for special occasions.
>
>
>
> Then there was the hot cheese and bacon dip. My friend loved the stuff and
>
> gave me the recipe. I made it countless times for parties until that
>
> horrible day that I bought something called "hoop cheddar". And it wasn't
>
> good! Totally ruined the taste of the dish and I never made it again.
>
>
>
> Also used to love something called Duchesses, but they were a bit of a PITA
>
> to make. Basically they were a small savory cream puff that could be filled
>
> with a variety of fillings. I used butter mixed with sharp cheddar and
>
> finely chopped onion. They were very rich.
>
>
>
> I also loved cheese balls! Yes, you do still see those in the grocery
>
> stores but people used to make their own. Those and cheese logs. Used to
>
> see them at every party. And now? Never see them.
>
>
>
> Rumaki used to be common too. Not really sure what it was. Something
>
> wrapped in bacon. Same friend who gave me the dip recipe loved that and
>
> also loved those meatballs in the grape jelly. No, I never had those.
> I also don't see much made with puff pastry these days. I used to make all
> sorts of things with that.
> What foods do you miss that used to be common?

I miss my mothers gefilte. No one makes them the same.
Pickled stuffed baby eggplants made by the Krinos company.
English cask beer. (I am now in the US.)
(Shepherd's Pie at school dinners. Absolutely disgusting.)
Good bread.

http://www.richardfisher.com

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> What foods do you miss that used to be common?

Raisin bread at a decent price. I wanted to buy a loaf last week until I
saw that the prices of 3 different brands were all around $4.00. yeah
right....Homey don't play that.

I'll just make a loaf myself next weekend if I still have the desire to.

G.

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:28:44 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
>>
>> more?
>>
>>
>>
>> The first such that comes to my mind are those little baked cheese balls
>>
>> with the stuffed green olives in the middle. I had them at a craft fair
>> and
>>
>> when I found the recipe in my mom's Betty Crocker cookbook, I was sooo
>>
>> excited! They were very easy to make but my mom didn't let me make them
>>
>> often. Were olives very expensive back in the 1970's? They used to
>> ration
>>
>> them in our house and we usually only had them for special occasions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then there was the hot cheese and bacon dip. My friend loved the stuff
>> and
>>
>> gave me the recipe. I made it countless times for parties until that
>>
>> horrible day that I bought something called "hoop cheddar". And it
>> wasn't
>>
>> good! Totally ruined the taste of the dish and I never made it again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also used to love something called Duchesses, but they were a bit of a
>> PITA
>>
>> to make. Basically they were a small savory cream puff that could be
>> filled
>>
>> with a variety of fillings. I used butter mixed with sharp cheddar and
>>
>> finely chopped onion. They were very rich.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also loved cheese balls! Yes, you do still see those in the grocery
>>
>> stores but people used to make their own. Those and cheese logs. Used
>> to
>>
>> see them at every party. And now? Never see them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rumaki used to be common too. Not really sure what it was. Something
>>
>> wrapped in bacon. Same friend who gave me the dip recipe loved that and
>>
>> also loved those meatballs in the grape jelly. No, I never had those.
>> I also don't see much made with puff pastry these days. I used to make
>> all
>> sorts of things with that.
>> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
> I miss my mothers gefilte. No one makes them the same.
> Pickled stuffed baby eggplants made by the Krinos company.
> English cask beer. (I am now in the US.)
> (Shepherd's Pie at school dinners. Absolutely disgusting.)
> Good bread.

Thanks!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
> Raisin bread at a decent price. I wanted to buy a loaf last week until I
> saw that the prices of 3 different brands were all around $4.00. yeah
> right....Homey don't play that.
>
> I'll just make a loaf myself next weekend if I still have the desire to.

Good bread has gotten very expensive here. The kind I like is about $3.50
per loaf at Costco and it's one of the only ones that you can buy as a
single, small loaf. The other stores sell it for about $6 here.

On 6/18/2013 5:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
> more?
>
> The first such that comes to my mind are those little baked cheese balls
> with the stuffed green olives in the middle. I had them at a craft fair and
> when I found the recipe in my mom's Betty Crocker cookbook, I was sooo
> excited! They were very easy to make but my mom didn't let me make them
> often. Were olives very expensive back in the 1970's? They used to ration
> them in our house and we usually only had them for special occasions.
>
> Then there was the hot cheese and bacon dip. My friend loved the stuff and
> gave me the recipe. I made it countless times for parties until that
> horrible day that I bought something called "hoop cheddar". And it wasn't
> good! Totally ruined the taste of the dish and I never made it again.
>
> Also used to love something called Duchesses, but they were a bit of a PITA
> to make. Basically they were a small savory cream puff that could be filled
> with a variety of fillings. I used butter mixed with sharp cheddar and
> finely chopped onion. They were very rich.
>
> I also loved cheese balls! Yes, you do still see those in the grocery
> stores but people used to make their own. Those and cheese logs. Used to
> see them at every party. And now? Never see them.
>
> Rumaki used to be common too. Not really sure what it was. Something
> wrapped in bacon. Same friend who gave me the dip recipe loved that and
> also loved those meatballs in the grape jelly. No, I never had those.
>
> I also don't see much made with puff pastry these days. I used to make all
> sorts of things with that.
>
> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
>
Starting in the pop machine:

Tru Ade orange soda...

http://www.retroplanet.com/blog/soda...onated-orange/

and Crass grape soda...

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/292027

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/Crass-Soda-m694317.aspx

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
> Raisin bread at a decent price. I wanted to buy a loaf last week until I
> saw that the prices of 3 different brands were all around $4.00. yeah
> right....Homey don't play that.
>
> I'll just make a loaf myself next weekend if I still have the desire to.

Home made will be much better anyway
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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
> more?

Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make it!
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On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:01:43 AM UTC-4, The Other Guy wrote:

>
> Not ONLY that, but raisin bread of today isn't NEARLY as good as it
>
> was when I was a kind. But then, what IS??
>

Most things are better today than in the "good old days". It's one's memory that is worse.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> Home made will be much better anyway
>

Not true. Home made bread is nowhere near as good as bread from a good bakery. However, good bakeries are very hard to find.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 6/18/2013 12:20 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:01:43 AM UTC-4, The Other Guy wrote:
>
>>
>> Not ONLY that, but raisin bread of today isn't NEARLY as good as it
>>
>> was when I was a kind. But then, what IS??
>>
>
> Most things are better today than in the "good old days". It's one's memory that is worse.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>

I happen to like the *taste* of All-Bran cereal but I am convinced it
tasted differently when I was a child. There's no way I can prove that
statement.

--
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Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> Home made will be much better anyway
>>
>
> Not true. Home made bread is nowhere near as good as bread from a good
> bakery. However, good bakeries are very hard to find.

*Your* home made bread might be nowhere near as good ...

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> What foods do you miss that used to be common?

Salt rising bread.

pavane

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:28:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
> more?
>
> The first such that comes to my mind are those little baked cheese balls
> with the stuffed green olives in the middle. I had them at a craft fair and
> when I found the recipe in my mom's Betty Crocker cookbook, I was sooo
> excited! They were very easy to make but my mom didn't let me make them
> often. Were olives very expensive back in the 1970's? They used to ration
> them in our house and we usually only had them for special occasions.
>
> Then there was the hot cheese and bacon dip. My friend loved the stuff and
> gave me the recipe. I made it countless times for parties until that
> horrible day that I bought something called "hoop cheddar". And it wasn't
> good! Totally ruined the taste of the dish and I never made it again.
>
> Also used to love something called Duchesses, but they were a bit of a PITA
> to make. Basically they were a small savory cream puff that could be filled
> with a variety of fillings. I used butter mixed with sharp cheddar and
> finely chopped onion. They were very rich.
>
> I also loved cheese balls! Yes, you do still see those in the grocery
> stores but people used to make their own. Those and cheese logs. Used to
> see them at every party. And now? Never see them.
>
> Rumaki used to be common too. Not really sure what it was. Something
> wrapped in bacon. Same friend who gave me the dip recipe loved that and
> also loved those meatballs in the grape jelly. No, I never had those.
>
> I also don't see much made with puff pastry these days. I used to make all
> sorts of things with that.
>
> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
Of the above, the only one I've ever made (or eaten, for that matter)
is rumaki... I loved it, but my family did not. If I made rumaki
today, I'd be the only one eating it - so not worth the effort. A few
friends liked them at parties, but only the SIL I was closest to and I
ate them at family occasions. My rumaki were marinated chicken livers
and water chestnuts, wrapped in bacon and then broiled.

I hate cheese balls and am not a big fan of hot dips although I did
make some sort of bean dip for parties occasionally. DD makes that
artichoke hot dip quite often, but I get tired of it after the first
scoop or two. I guess those things are too rich more me when hot
cheese is involved. I even took a trip down memory lane this last NYE
and made cheese fondue, but it didn't hit the spot for me like it used
to.

The thing I really miss from back in the day is champagne & caviar
(which was American and local), but - I liked it more than anyone
else... oh, pate. I miss that too. I used to buy the Marcel & Henry
Duck Pate with Truffles - that was GOOD stuff, but their plant was
destroyed by fire and they haven't rebuilt. Guess they're out of
business permanently. I do buy a small Three Little Pigs (Trois Petit
Cochons brand) chicken liver pate from Trader Joe's or Safeway (I
forget which one sells it) occasionally just for me - but not very
often.

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:

>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
> Salt rising bread.
>

I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
near my house that sold it every Friday.

Have you ever made it at home?

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around
>>> any
>>> more?
>>
>> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make it!
>
> That would have been my answer, too. She's not talking about
> commercial products.
>
> I even made rumaki a few times recently even though I never had it as
> a kid.

Rumaki?

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On 6/18/2013 12:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Helpful person" > wrote
>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> Home made will be much better anyway
>>>
>> Not true. Home made bread is nowhere near as good as bread from a
>> good bakery. However, good bakeries are very hard to find.
>
> *Your* home made bread might be nowhere near as good ...
>



Indeed.
My homemade bread is very tasty.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:57:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around
>>>>> any
>>>>> more?
>>>>
>>>> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make
>>>> it!
>>>
>>> That would have been my answer, too. She's not talking about
>>> commercial products.
>>>
>>> I even made rumaki a few times recently even though I never had it as
>>> a kid.
>>
>> Rumaki?
>
> Rumaki.

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:57:21 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around
> >>> any
> >>> more?
> >>
> >> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make it!
> >
> > That would have been my answer, too. She's not talking about
> > commercial products.
> >
> > I even made rumaki a few times recently even though I never had it as
> > a kid.
>
> Rumaki?
>
> --
There are many recipes - this is only one of them.
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo.../Rumaki-106255
I used a mustard/bourbon marinade from Gourmet magazine that I lost a
long time ago.

Example image of rumaki here
http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/1/7/l17186263.jpg

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:57:21 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around
>> >>> any
>> >>> more?
>> >>
>> >> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make
>> >> it!
>> >
>> > That would have been my answer, too. She's not talking about
>> > commercial products.
>> >
>> > I even made rumaki a few times recently even though I never had it as
>> > a kid.
>>
>> Rumaki?
>>
>> --
> There are many recipes - this is only one of them.
> http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo.../Rumaki-106255
> I used a mustard/bourbon marinade from Gourmet magazine that I lost a
> long time ago.
>
> Example image of rumaki here
> http://photos-ak.sparkpeople.com/nw/1/7/l17186263.jpg

Thanks Now I understand.
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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>>
>> Salt rising bread.
>>
>
> I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
> near my house that sold it every Friday.
>
> Have you ever made it at home?

Yes, back when we were apartment dwellers in college.
It has a delightful aroma (!) that pervades everything, otherwise
the only critical part is getting the starter to work correctly.
I haven't tried it for years now; will have to find out what treasure
trove of recipes the internet has floating around. It is really a
delicious treat, especially toasted with good butter and jam.

pavane

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:36:02 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
> >>
> >> Salt rising bread.
> >>
> >
> > I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
> > near my house that sold it every Friday.
> >
> > Have you ever made it at home?
>
> Yes, back when we were apartment dwellers in college.
> It has a delightful aroma (!) that pervades everything, otherwise
> the only critical part is getting the starter to work correctly.
> I haven't tried it for years now; will have to find out what treasure
> trove of recipes the internet has floating around. It is really a
> delicious treat, especially toasted with good butter and jam.
>
I've found a couple of recipes on the internet, but have gotten up the
courage to try them because I'll be so disappointed if it's not like I
remember!

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:36:02 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>> >>
>> >> Salt rising bread.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
>> > near my house that sold it every Friday.
>> >
>> > Have you ever made it at home?
>>
>> Yes, back when we were apartment dwellers in college.
>> It has a delightful aroma (!) that pervades everything, otherwise
>> the only critical part is getting the starter to work correctly.
>> I haven't tried it for years now; will have to find out what treasure
>> trove of recipes the internet has floating around. It is really a
>> delicious treat, especially toasted with good butter and jam.
>>
> I've found a couple of recipes on the internet, but have gotten up the
> courage to try them because I'll be so disappointed if it's not like I
> remember!

Nothing ventured nothing gained

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:36:02 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>> >>
>> >> Salt rising bread.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
>> > near my house that sold it every Friday.
>> >
>> > Have you ever made it at home?
>>
>> Yes, back when we were apartment dwellers in college.
>> It has a delightful aroma (!) that pervades everything, otherwise
>> the only critical part is getting the starter to work correctly.
>> I haven't tried it for years now; will have to find out what treasure
>> trove of recipes the internet has floating around. It is really a
>> delicious treat, especially toasted with good butter and jam.
>>
> I've found a couple of recipes on the internet, but have gotten up the
> courage to try them because I'll be so disappointed if it's not like I
> remember!

It can't help but be good because, assuming the starter is working,
which you can see quite easily, the only other things are flour,
liquid and butter. And a little rising. It's *gotta* be good. Come on,
make some and tell us how well you did.

pavane

On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:39:08 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:36:02 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
> >> >>
> >> >> Salt rising bread.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
> >> > near my house that sold it every Friday.
> >> >
> >> > Have you ever made it at home?
> >>
> >> Yes, back when we were apartment dwellers in college.
> >> It has a delightful aroma (!) that pervades everything, otherwise
> >> the only critical part is getting the starter to work correctly.
> >> I haven't tried it for years now; will have to find out what treasure
> >> trove of recipes the internet has floating around. It is really a
> >> delicious treat, especially toasted with good butter and jam.
> >>
> > I've found a couple of recipes on the internet, but have gotten up the
> > courage to try them because I'll be so disappointed if it's not like I
> > remember!
>
> Nothing ventured nothing gained
>
> --
Making salt rising bread is more like making sourdough with you making
your own starter. I'm not skilled enough or lucky enough for it to
turn out and like I said, I know how disappointed I will be if it
doesn't have that piquant flavor I remember.

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:55:24 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:

> It can't help but be good because, assuming the starter is working,
> which you can see quite easily, the only other things are flour,
> liquid and butter. And a little rising. It's *gotta* be good. Come on,
> make some and tell us how well you did.

That's the thing, I suck at making starters. I've tried to make
sourdough starter beginning with wild yeast - failed. Tried kick
starting a sourdough starter with regular yeast, failed again. How
many times do I need to fail before I can admit I suck at it?

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:55:24 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>
>> It can't help but be good because, assuming the starter is working,
>> which you can see quite easily, the only other things are flour,
>> liquid and butter. And a little rising. It's *gotta* be good. Come on,
>> make some and tell us how well you did.
>
> That's the thing, I suck at making starters. I've tried to make
> sourdough starter beginning with wild yeast - failed. Tried kick
> starting a sourdough starter with regular yeast, failed again. How
> many times do I need to fail before I can admit I suck at it?

All I can think is that you didn't feed it long enough.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:39:08 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:36:02 -0400, "pavane" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> >> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:15 -0400, "pavane" >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Salt rising bread.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I loved that stuff! It wasn't common here, but there was one bakery
>> >> > near my house that sold it every Friday.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you ever made it at home?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, back when we were apartment dwellers in college.
>> >> It has a delightful aroma (!) that pervades everything, otherwise
>> >> the only critical part is getting the starter to work correctly.
>> >> I haven't tried it for years now; will have to find out what treasure
>> >> trove of recipes the internet has floating around. It is really a
>> >> delicious treat, especially toasted with good butter and jam.
>> >>
>> > I've found a couple of recipes on the internet, but have gotten up the
>> > courage to try them because I'll be so disappointed if it's not like I
>> > remember!
>>
>> Nothing ventured nothing gained
>>
>> --
> Making salt rising bread is more like making sourdough with you making
> your own starter.

Ok I know nothing about salt rising bread but I do know how to make a
starter. Is there a similarity between starters?


I'm not skilled enough or lucky enough for it to
> turn out and like I said, I know how disappointed I will be if it
> doesn't have that piquant flavor I remember.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>

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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
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> I happen to like the *taste* of All-Bran cereal but I am convinced it
> tasted differently when I was a child. There's no way I can prove that
> statement.

I don't know about that one since I don't think I ever ate it. But I do
know that they changed a lot of the packaged cookies. I think Oreos went
through at least 2 changes since I was a kid and not for the better, IMO.

"casa bona" > wrote in message
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>>
> Starting in the pop machine:
>
> Tru Ade orange soda...
>
> http://www.retroplanet.com/blog/soda...onated-orange/
>
> and Crass grape soda...
>
> http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/292027
>
> http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/Crass-Soda-m694317.aspx

Not sure I remember those brands but I know that my uncle used to buy cases
of some kind of soda in glass bottles. Came as a mixed lot. I don't
remember any cola in there but there was root bear, cream soda and a lot of
fruit flavors. I had difficulty drinking it because we only ever had diet
soda at home and real soda was just too sweet for my taste.

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
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> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> Home made will be much better anyway
>>
>
> Not true. Home made bread is nowhere near as good as bread from a good
> bakery. However, good bakeries are very hard to find.

And sometimes to get the good stuff you have to get there early in the
morning. There's a really good bakery in downtown Edmonds that is still
there and was operating when we moved here almost 50 years ago. I think it
had been there for a while prior judging by the looks of it. But we don't
live near it and by the time we ever get there in the afternoon, there is
often not much left.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Helpful person" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Home made will be much better anyway
>>>
>>
>> Not true. Home made bread is nowhere near as good as bread from a good
>> bakery. However, good bakeries are very hard to find.
>
> *Your* home made bread might be nowhere near as good ...

I used to make bread from scratch. I don't even like bread all that much.
I just liked to bake! The bread always came out very good!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
>> more?
>
> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make it!

I guess my mind was mainly on party foods because when I was younger, it was
a lot more common for people to have parties in their house, especially
around the holidays or even potlucks. Now, people don't seem to do that any
more. At least not in this area. Perhaps because of the drinking and
driving laws. Now it is more common to have a catered affair, perhaps at a
hotel or near a hotel so that the people can stay there.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around
>>> any
>>> more?
>>
>> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make it!
>
> That would have been my answer, too. She's not talking about
> commercial products.
>
> I even made rumaki a few times recently even though I never had it as
> a kid.

I know that I can make anything at home and I do make retro recipes. I was
just thinking more of things that I used to see out and about that I don't
see any more.

I once made cheese straws for an end of year party at the golf course that I
worked for. I was pretty shocked that nobody had ever heard of cheese
straws before and I had to try to explain to them why they were called
"straws". I really didn't know. Just figured that they perhaps resembled
straw? I was rather astounded because two of my coworkers were from the
South, although one was from Florida. I've never even been to the true
South except perhaps to go into some of the states a little further out from
the Midwest but I can remember hearing and reading about cheese straws from
my youth. I had never had them before either but had seen them for sale
online and had assumed they were still common. Doesn't someone here make
them? Or is that someone on another newsgroup?

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:21 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around
>>>> any
>>>> more?
>>>
>>> Not really that I can think of. If we want something I usually make it!
>>
>> That would have been my answer, too. She's not talking about
>> commercial products.
>>
>> I even made rumaki a few times recently even though I never had it as
>> a kid.
>
> Rumaki?

Again... I have never made this so can not say if this is a good recipe or
not. I just pulled it up at random. But back during the 70's and 80's this
was the classic party food.

http://www.greatpartyrecipes.com/rumakirecipe.html

"pavane" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>
> Salt rising bread.

I never had that. Is salt what makes it rise?

"sf" > wrote in message
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> Making salt rising bread is more like making sourdough with you making
> your own starter. I'm not skilled enough or lucky enough for it to
> turn out and like I said, I know how disappointed I will be if it
> doesn't have that piquant flavor I remember.

Now sourdough is one bread that I did fail at. My dad brought me some
starter from a Chinese guy at work many years ago. I fed it like he told me
to but I killed it off pretty quickly. The baked loaves that I got were
edible and had good flavor but they were rather dense and didn't rise like
they should. Actually only tried making it twice then quit after it was
clear that the starter was dead. Actually it may well have been dead when
it was given to me because I don't think it had been kept in the
refrigerator.

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:28:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Do you have a food that you used to love, but you don't see it around any
>> more?
>>
>> The first such that comes to my mind are those little baked cheese balls
>> with the stuffed green olives in the middle. I had them at a craft fair
>> and
>> when I found the recipe in my mom's Betty Crocker cookbook, I was sooo
>> excited! They were very easy to make but my mom didn't let me make them
>> often. Were olives very expensive back in the 1970's? They used to
>> ration
>> them in our house and we usually only had them for special occasions.
>>
>> Then there was the hot cheese and bacon dip. My friend loved the stuff
>> and
>> gave me the recipe. I made it countless times for parties until that
>> horrible day that I bought something called "hoop cheddar". And it
>> wasn't
>> good! Totally ruined the taste of the dish and I never made it again.
>>
>> Also used to love something called Duchesses, but they were a bit of a
>> PITA
>> to make. Basically they were a small savory cream puff that could be
>> filled
>> with a variety of fillings. I used butter mixed with sharp cheddar and
>> finely chopped onion. They were very rich.
>>
>> I also loved cheese balls! Yes, you do still see those in the grocery
>> stores but people used to make their own. Those and cheese logs. Used
>> to
>> see them at every party. And now? Never see them.
>>
>> Rumaki used to be common too. Not really sure what it was. Something
>> wrapped in bacon. Same friend who gave me the dip recipe loved that and
>> also loved those meatballs in the grape jelly. No, I never had those.
>>
>> I also don't see much made with puff pastry these days. I used to make
>> all
>> sorts of things with that.
>>
>> What foods do you miss that used to be common?
>>
> Of the above, the only one I've ever made (or eaten, for that matter)
> is rumaki... I loved it, but my family did not. If I made rumaki
> today, I'd be the only one eating it - so not worth the effort. A few
> friends liked them at parties, but only the SIL I was closest to and I
> ate them at family occasions. My rumaki were marinated chicken livers
> and water chestnuts, wrapped in bacon and then broiled.

That's the problem with some of those party foods. Doesn't really pay just
to make them for yourself.
>
> I hate cheese balls and am not a big fan of hot dips although I did
> make some sort of bean dip for parties occasionally. DD makes that
> artichoke hot dip quite often, but I get tired of it after the first
> scoop or two. I guess those things are too rich more me when hot
> cheese is involved. I even took a trip down memory lane this last NYE
> and made cheese fondue, but it didn't hit the spot for me like it used
> to.

I made that artichoke dip for one of Angela's birthday parties and everyone
loved it, including me. And I didn't think that I would because I'm not a
really big artichoke lover. I can also make a really good espinca con queso
which is something I find most people have not heard of. We used to have
Chi Chi's Mexican restaurant here. It was a chain and that particular
location was notorious for giving people food poisoning. So I recreated
their dip. Although it is very good, it may well be something they invented
and not authentic Mexican food at all. I don't really even like most dips
but I do like a lot of the Mexican ones and the cheese ones, even though I
can no longer eat the cheese ones.

I've never had fondue. Had a friend who made it at school for a
demonstration. She made a cheese one and put some sort of liquor in it.
That got her suspended! Hehe.
>
> The thing I really miss from back in the day is champagne & caviar
> (which was American and local), but - I liked it more than anyone
> else... oh, pate. I miss that too. I used to buy the Marcel & Henry
> Duck Pate with Truffles - that was GOOD stuff, but their plant was
> destroyed by fire and they haven't rebuilt. Guess they're out of
> business permanently. I do buy a small Three Little Pigs (Trois Petit
> Cochons brand) chicken liver pate from Trader Joe's or Safeway (I
> forget which one sells it) occasionally just for me - but not very
> often.

Oh yes, caviar! I have not seen that anywhere for a long time. I once
brought it to a potluck at work. And we got it at a Russian restaurant in
NY. I've never eaten it myself because it doesn't appeal but it is pretty!
I don't recall seeing pate anywhere either. That used to be common too.

On 6/18/2013 4:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>
>> Starting in the pop machine:
>>
>> Tru Ade orange soda...
>>
>> http://www.retroplanet.com/blog/soda...onated-orange/
>>
>> and Crass grape soda...
>>
>> http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/292027
>>
>> http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/Crass-Soda-m694317.aspx
>
> Not sure I remember those brands but I know that my uncle used to buy cases
> of some kind of soda in glass bottles. Came as a mixed lot. I don't
> remember any cola in there but there was root bear, cream soda and a lot of
> fruit flavors. I had difficulty drinking it because we only ever had diet
> soda at home and real soda was just too sweet for my taste.
>
>
Fascinating, I grew up on the cane sugared stuff and have the fillings
to prove it, sigh...;-(

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
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> On 6/18/2013 12:20 PM, Helpful person wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:01:43 AM UTC-4, The Other Guy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not ONLY that, but raisin bread of today isn't NEARLY as good as it
>>>
>>> was when I was a kind. But then, what IS??
>>>
>>
>> Most things are better today than in the "good old days". It's one's
>> memory that is worse.
>>
>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>
>
> I happen to like the *taste* of All-Bran cereal but I am convinced it
> tasted differently when I was a child. There's no way I can prove that
> statement.
>
>

That IS true. I have a box from when I was a kid, and it sure tastes
different.