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Jan Panteltje
 
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Default Kerry should run again in four years (OT)

On a sunny day (4 Nov 2004 22:28:59 GMT) it happened "Julia Ricolla"
> wrote in
>:

>
>
>John Kerry did very well against Bush, if you consider that Bush is an
>incumbent war-time president. Many of the swing states were very close.
>In four years, Kerry should run again, with Hillary Clinton on the VP
>side of the ticket. There will be no sitting president to run against,
>due to term limits, Kerry would probably take the white house if he
>decides to run again. Edwards should be left off the ticket next time.

Of cause there may not be a next time, if Bush performs in the same way
he did in the past 4 years, we have thermonuclear war in 2 years.
Have fun.
Jan
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> >John Kerry did very well against Bush, if you consider that Bush is an
> >incumbent war-time president. Many of the swing states were very close.
> >In four years, Kerry should run again, with Hillary Clinton on the VP
> >side of the ticket. There will be no sitting president to run against,
> >due to term limits, Kerry would probably take the white house if he
> >decides to run again. Edwards should be left off the ticket next time.

> Of cause there may not be a next time, if Bush performs in the same way
> he did in the past 4 years, we have thermonuclear war in 2 years.
> Have fun.


Dooms day, ahhhhhhhh, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... tard.


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"Donald Link" > wrote in message
...
> Edwards left off the ticket. He was about the only one who was not a
> clown. The reason Kerry got so many votes was because the Democrats
> got everyone possible to register and vote and they still lost by 4
> million. Just think if the next Republican is well liked and trusted
> then the Republicans shoud win by 8 million votes.


Unless of course the entire population of the registered voters vote, in
which case Democrats would win in an avalanche of votes. The main reason
Republicans win is that only half of the people in the country can be
bothered to vote.


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"jeffc" > wrote in message
. com...
> > Unless of course the entire population of the registered voters vote, in

> which case Democrats would win in an avalanche of votes. The main reason
> Republicans win is that only half of the people in the country can be
> bothered to vote.
>
>


If only 1/2 of your posts were about golf, maybe folks wouldn't conside you
a jerk.


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jeffc wrote:

> "Donald Link" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Edwards left off the ticket. He was about the only one who was not a
>>clown. The reason Kerry got so many votes was because the Democrats
>>got everyone possible to register and vote and they still lost by 4
>>million. Just think if the next Republican is well liked and trusted
>>then the Republicans shoud win by 8 million votes.

>
>
> Unless of course the entire population of the registered voters vote, in
> which case Democrats would win in an avalanche of votes. The main reason
> Republicans win is that only half of the people in the country can be
> bothered to vote.
>
>

It was closer to 3/4 this go round.

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"jeffc" > wrote in message
. com...
> > Unless of course the entire population of the registered voters vote, in

> which case Democrats would win in an avalanche of votes. The main reason
> Republicans win is that only half of the people in the country can be
> bothered to vote.
>
>


If only 1/2 of your posts were about golf, maybe folks wouldn't conside you
a jerk.


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jeffc wrote:

> "Donald Link" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Edwards left off the ticket. He was about the only one who was not a
>>clown. The reason Kerry got so many votes was because the Democrats
>>got everyone possible to register and vote and they still lost by 4
>>million. Just think if the next Republican is well liked and trusted
>>then the Republicans shoud win by 8 million votes.

>
>
> Unless of course the entire population of the registered voters vote, in
> which case Democrats would win in an avalanche of votes. The main reason
> Republicans win is that only half of the people in the country can be
> bothered to vote.
>
>

It was closer to 3/4 this go round.

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In article > , "jeffc" > wrote:
>
>"Donald Link" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Edwards left off the ticket. He was about the only one who was not a
>> clown. The reason Kerry got so many votes was because the Democrats
>> got everyone possible to register and vote and they still lost by 4
>> million. Just think if the next Republican is well liked and trusted
>> then the Republicans shoud win by 8 million votes.

>
>Unless of course the entire population of the registered voters vote, in
>which case Democrats would win in an avalanche of votes. The main reason
>Republicans win is that only half of the people in the country can be
>bothered to vote.
>
>

And that is "WHO'S" problem? Get your buddies to quit smoking crack and go out
and vote then. Too busy going to raves etc??
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Yes well all I can say is Bush stands for Bush, War, Tax Breaks For
The Wealth, and the Carlyle Group which is still high funded by the
Saudi's, and was, and probable still funded by The bin Laden Group. So
you my fellow blind American that is the FOOL...

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:02:29 GMT, Donald Link >
wrote:

>Edwards left off the ticket. He was about the only one who was not a
>clown. The reason Kerry got so many votes was because the Democrats
>got everyone possible to register and vote and they still lost by 4
>million. Just think if the next Republican is well liked and trusted
>then the Republicans shoud win by 8 million votes. Kerry has shot his
>wad just like Gore did and he is done. PERIOD. Kerry was just a
>person who has no convictions. He never really said specifically what
>he stood for because he was just a Senator from a back water state and
>only got the nomination because his competition were so radical.
>Kerry is done and we should all say BYE, BYE loser. Kerry is a fine
>example of it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think
>you a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
>
>On 4 Nov 2004 22:28:59 GMT, "Julia Ricolla"
> wrote:
>
>>John Kerry did very well against Bush, if you consider that Bush is an
>>incumbent war-time president. Many of the swing states were very close.
>>In four years, Kerry should run again, with Hillary Clinton on the VP
>>side of the ticket. There will be no sitting president to run against,
>>due to term limits, Kerry would probably take the white house if he
>>decides to run again. Edwards should be left off the ticket next time.


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>Yes well all I can say is Bush stands for Bush, War, Tax Breaks For
>The Wealth, and the Carlyle Group which is still


If that's all you can say, then I suppose you'll keep on saying it. But you
still have to explain why 60 million people--not necessarily all rich
warmongers--voted for him.


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"WardNA" > wrote in message
...
> >Yes well all I can say is Bush stands for Bush, War, Tax Breaks For
> >The Wealth, and the Carlyle Group which is still

>
> If that's all you can say, then I suppose you'll keep on saying it. But

you
> still have to explain why 60 million people--not necessarily all rich
> warmongers--voted for him.


The chickens voted for Colonel Sanders. (I read that elsewhere and it made
me laugh.)

Another author stated it better - he said that probably nobody, including
the republicans, have an explanation as to why millions of voters, crushed
by heavy taxation, job losses, soaring cost of living and evaporating
opportunity, firmly believed and voted for a man who claims the cure for it
all is to give Bill Gates back $100,000.00.

Paul


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>probably nobody, including
>the republicans, have an explanation as to why


The fondest illusion of those defeated in elections is the superior knowledge
that the voters do not know their own interests.

Neil
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 06:13:31 GMT, "Paul M. Cook©®"
> wrote:

>
>"WardNA" > wrote in message
...
>> >Yes well all I can say is Bush stands for Bush, War, Tax Breaks For
>> >The Wealth, and the Carlyle Group which is still

>>
>> If that's all you can say, then I suppose you'll keep on saying it. But

>you
>> still have to explain why 60 million people--not necessarily all rich
>> warmongers--voted for him.

>
>The chickens voted for Colonel Sanders. (I read that elsewhere and it made
>me laugh.)
>
>Another author stated it better - he said that probably nobody, including
>the republicans, have an explanation as to why millions of voters, crushed
>by heavy taxation, job losses, soaring cost of living and evaporating
>opportunity, firmly believed and voted for a man who claims the cure for it
>all is to give Bill Gates back $100,000.00.
>
>Paul
>

shit out of me beats.

your pal,
george
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 06:13:31 GMT, "Paul M. Cook©®"
> wrote:

>
>"WardNA" > wrote in message
...
>> >Yes well all I can say is Bush stands for Bush, War, Tax Breaks For
>> >The Wealth, and the Carlyle Group which is still

>>
>> If that's all you can say, then I suppose you'll keep on saying it. But

>you
>> still have to explain why 60 million people--not necessarily all rich
>> warmongers--voted for him.

>
>The chickens voted for Colonel Sanders. (I read that elsewhere and it made
>me laugh.)
>
>Another author stated it better - he said that probably nobody, including
>the republicans, have an explanation as to why millions of voters, crushed
>by heavy taxation, job losses, soaring cost of living and evaporating
>opportunity, firmly believed and voted for a man who claims the cure for it
>all is to give Bill Gates back $100,000.00.
>
>Paul
>

shit out of me beats.

your pal,
george
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>probably nobody, including
>the republicans, have an explanation as to why


The fondest illusion of those defeated in elections is the superior knowledge
that the voters do not know their own interests.

Neil


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"WardNA" > wrote in message
...
> >Yes well all I can say is Bush stands for Bush, War, Tax Breaks For
> >The Wealth, and the Carlyle Group which is still

>
> If that's all you can say, then I suppose you'll keep on saying it. But

you
> still have to explain why 60 million people--not necessarily all rich
> warmongers--voted for him.


The chickens voted for Colonel Sanders. (I read that elsewhere and it made
me laugh.)

Another author stated it better - he said that probably nobody, including
the republicans, have an explanation as to why millions of voters, crushed
by heavy taxation, job losses, soaring cost of living and evaporating
opportunity, firmly believed and voted for a man who claims the cure for it
all is to give Bill Gates back $100,000.00.

Paul


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>Its been something like 40
>years since a northern Democrat won a presidential election (Kennedy)


.. . . and just as long since a candidate went directly from the Senate to the
Presidency. I can't think of an example besides Kennedy (who squeaked by)
since Harding who did so. (Senators Truman and Johnson advanced to the
Presidency through the Vice Presidency).

The legislature is not a great launching pad to the Presidency. Governors,
Vice Presidents, and movie stars/pro wrestlers do much better.

Neil
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:02:29 GMT, Donald Link >
wrote:

> Kerry is a fine>example of it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think
>you a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
>

That hasn't seemed to be a problem for Dubya, but he's always been a
joke. Don't kid yourself, he won because of the support of the
religious righties, not because of his leadership.
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Bobby Knight > wrote in message >. ..
> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:02:29 GMT, Donald Link >
> wrote:
>
> > Kerry is a fine>example of it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think
> >you a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
> >

> That hasn't seemed to be a problem for Dubya, but he's always been a
> joke. Don't kid yourself, he won because of the support of the
> religious righties, not because of his leadership.


Sorry my friend, but I'm atheist, and I voted for Bush. You guys just
don't get it, which is fine with me.
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In rec.food.cooking Larry Bud > wrote:
> Bobby Knight > wrote in message >. ..
>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:02:29 GMT, Donald Link >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Kerry is a fine>example of it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think
>> >you a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
>> >

>> That hasn't seemed to be a problem for Dubya, but he's always been a
>> joke. Don't kid yourself, he won because of the support of the
>> religious righties, not because of his leadership.


> Sorry my friend, but I'm atheist, and I voted for Bush. You guys just
> don't get it, which is fine with me.


Bush's campaign manager Carl Rove, himself said a key part of the
campaign strategy was to get support of the far right Christians.
You're contradicting the guy who ran Bush's campaign.



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In rec.food.cooking Larry Bud > wrote:
> Bobby Knight > wrote in message >. ..
>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:02:29 GMT, Donald Link >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Kerry is a fine>example of it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think
>> >you a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
>> >

>> That hasn't seemed to be a problem for Dubya, but he's always been a
>> joke. Don't kid yourself, he won because of the support of the
>> religious righties, not because of his leadership.


> Sorry my friend, but I'm atheist, and I voted for Bush. You guys just
> don't get it, which is fine with me.


Bush's campaign manager Carl Rove, himself said a key part of the
campaign strategy was to get support of the far right Christians.
You're contradicting the guy who ran Bush's campaign.

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Bobby Knight > wrote in message >. ..
> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:02:29 GMT, Donald Link >
> wrote:
>
> > Kerry is a fine>example of it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think
> >you a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
> >

> That hasn't seemed to be a problem for Dubya, but he's always been a
> joke. Don't kid yourself, he won because of the support of the
> religious righties, not because of his leadership.


Sorry my friend, but I'm atheist, and I voted for Bush. You guys just
don't get it, which is fine with me.
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Shawn Hearn wrote:
>
> In article >,
> "Julia Ricolla" > wrote:
>
> > John Kerry did very well against Bush, if you consider that Bush is an
> > incumbent war-time president. Many of the swing states were very close.
> > In four years, Kerry should run again, with Hillary Clinton on the VP
> > side of the ticket. There will be no sitting president to run against,
> > due to term limits, Kerry would probably take the white house if he
> > decides to run again. Edwards should be left off the ticket next time.

>
> Nope. Kerry is now marked a loser.





I'm not convinced one way or the other, but before you
throw "loser" around, look at how many times Nixon was
defeated before he won the presidency.

gloria p
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X-ARCHIVE:NO

If Bush DOESN'T perform the same way he did the last 4 years, there
WILL BE a thermonuclear attack. If Osama bin Laden had a nuclear
device, New York would be a smoking crater. If he, Kim Chong-il, or
any other terrorist organization ever get one, they won't hesitate to
use it.

Of course if Kim Chong-il ever does get one, China and the Soviet
Union will probably invade before the USA.

Have fun.


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:47:50 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> wrote:

>On a sunny day (4 Nov 2004 22:28:59 GMT) it happened "Julia Ricolla"
> wrote in
>:
>
>>
>>
>>John Kerry did very well against Bush, if you consider that Bush is an
>>incumbent war-time president. Many of the swing states were very close.
>>In four years, Kerry should run again, with Hillary Clinton on the VP
>>side of the ticket. There will be no sitting president to run against,
>>due to term limits, Kerry would probably take the white house if he
>>decides to run again. Edwards should be left off the ticket next time.

>Of cause there may not be a next time, if Bush performs in the same way
>he did in the past 4 years, we have thermonuclear war in 2 years.
>Have fun.
>Jan




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X-Archive:NO

I feel all the maniacal, rabid, irrational attacks the Democrats
heaped on GW Bush really disfranchised people. Every time someone uses
the term "Shub", compares GW Bush to Hitler, whines about how Mr. Bush
stole the Presidential Election 4 years ago in Florida, criticizes the
electoral college, etc, it just really alienates me. Michael More,
Dixie Chicks, Et al did a fine job of making me re-examine whether or
not I really wanted to vote for a Democratic candidate.

If the democrats want to make inroad next election, they need to
acknowledge that not all of the 59.5 Million people who voted for Mr.
Bush are right-wing, religious, war-monging nut jobs and figure out
why more people aren't buying what they're selling.

Extending an olive branch, or at least refraining from illogical
arguments and name calling might go a long way.


On 5 Nov 2004 17:00:09 GMT, Lee > wrote:

>Shawn Hearn > wrote in news:srhi-
:
>
>> I
>> think the results would have been a lot different if Edwards was at the
>> top of this ticket instead of Kerry.

>
>Yeah, there would have been more votes for Bush. Edwards screams of
>inexperience. His "2 Americas" theme alienated lots of voters - too
>divisive.


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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 23:24:13 -0800, "Steve" >
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> Not sure about that, the guy could not deliver his home state or any of the
> south. Also his former Senate seat went R. Not exactly a finging
> endoresment.


You're still living in the last election. Kerry delivered
his home state.

sf
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> sf nobody@comcast
>
>>"Steve" > wrote:
>>
>>Not sure about that, the guy could not deliver his home state or any of the
>>south. Also his former Senate seat went R.

>
>You're still living in the last election. Kerry delivered his home state.


Edwards....


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> sf nobody@comcast
>
>>"Steve" > wrote:
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>>Not sure about that, the guy could not deliver his home state or any of the
>>south. Also his former Senate seat went R.

>
>You're still living in the last election. Kerry delivered his home state.


Edwards....


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>everything now.
>Yep, good thinking, this is what I would do in a case like this.


I think Hilary and Rudy Guilani
Rosie
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Kerry was a limp compromise candidate - few of us voted for him, we were all
voting against the dubya regime.

Karl Rove is a complete genius, albiet an evil one. He can control the
ignorant and superstitious and easily distracted and fearful.

If the Democratic Party will even survive, they will have to mount someone that
Rush would have reason to call an extremist and self-avowed liberal.

You don't turn a big country on a dime, and my guess for a compromise canditate
next time is Hillary/Obarak Obama. But maybe even that is too much. We may
have a police state by then.

I suggest that some of us college-educated folks move to the Confederacy and
try to educate our new neighbors about critical thinking.

michael



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Mikebulka > wrote:
>Kerry was a limp compromise candidate


Kerry is a strong, experienced, competent man.

But his campaign was run by buffoons.

The smarter guys having been bought out by BushCo.

--Blair
"He was framed."
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Mikebulka > wrote:
>Kerry was a limp compromise candidate


Kerry is a strong, experienced, competent man.

But his campaign was run by buffoons.

The smarter guys having been bought out by BushCo.

--Blair
"He was framed."
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>everything now.
>Yep, good thinking, this is what I would do in a case like this.


I think Hilary and Rudy Guilani
Rosie


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