I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus? The dramatic
increase in those types of cancers amongst the general population in
recent times now has an explanation unrelated to smoking...

At the same time did you catch a small news story (CNN) about an amazing
medical use for vinegar? Many women in poor rural countries do not have
access to modern medicine. We ladies are familiar with the pap smear.
Well, the low tech method of pap smear is to apply vinegar to the cervix
and using a flashlight (and presumably a speculum) look for white spots,
is what I gathered from this news article.

Apparently, ordinary vinegar has a reaction with the protein in cancer
cells causing those cells to turn white.

Possessing an enquiring mind, I immediately thought of Michael Douglas'
throat cancer. Say ahhh with a flashlight and a spray bottle of vinegar?

And what of other cancer cells? (News stories never answer all my
questions.) Do they also react in this manner? Why do not all cells
react in this manner? How long does it take for the reaction to reach
visible stage?

Men get a PSA blood test-what other applications for vinegar testing
might exist? If one has leukemia, would vinegar applied to a blood smear
react in a similar manner?

Finally, haven't you ever wondered about our food supply-do cows pigs
fish etc get cancer? Do we even test for that? Marinating meat in
vinegar?

On 6/5/2013 6:29 PM, z z wrote:
> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus? The dramatic
> increase in those types of cancers amongst the general population in
> recent times now has an explanation unrelated to smoking...
>
> At the same time did you catch a small news story (CNN) about an amazing
> medical use for vinegar? Many women in poor rural countries do not have
> access to modern medicine. We ladies are familiar with the pap smear.
> Well, the low tech method of pap smear is to apply vinegar to the cervix
> and using a flashlight (and presumably a speculum) look for white spots,
> is what I gathered from this news article.
>
> Apparently, ordinary vinegar has a reaction with the protein in cancer
> cells causing those cells to turn white.
>
> Possessing an enquiring mind, I immediately thought of Michael Douglas'
> throat cancer. Say ahhh with a flashlight and a spray bottle of vinegar?
>
> And what of other cancer cells? (News stories never answer all my
> questions.) Do they also react in this manner? Why do not all cells
> react in this manner? How long does it take for the reaction to reach
> visible stage?
>
> Men get a PSA blood test-what other applications for vinegar testing
> might exist? If one has leukemia, would vinegar applied to a blood smear
> react in a similar manner?
>
> Finally, haven't you ever wondered about our food supply-do cows pigs
> fish etc get cancer? Do we even test for that? Marinating meat in
> vinegar?

I caught the same news item, but the additional questions you have
raised are eye-openers and timely to boot.

It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.

Your other queries must be on the minds of medical researchers even now.

Perhaps you'll find the following paper useful:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785201/

Vinegar: Medicinal Uses and Antiglycemic Effect
Carol S. Johnston, PhD, RD and Cindy A. Gaas, BS

Great post for a nominally "cooking" group.

casa bona > wrote:
>
> Great post for a nominally "cooking" group.

Thanks, I quite enjoyed reading that, both from the cooking explanations
of vinegar, and the medicinal.

My first thought was I had naively always assumed lol that balsamic
vinegar somehow derives from balsam fir trees i.e. pine sap? Any
fermentable sugar source, it says. But the article talked about grapes
in connection with balsamic vinegar?

The actual fermentation of vinegar and the term mother was interesting.
This reminded me of reading years ago of POW's who would urinate on
their wounds to control maggots (though my understanding of maggots is
they eat the dead tissue only?) I knew urine was acidic and my
conclusion is that urine becomes vinegar after fermenting inside the
bladder.

The increased risk of bladder cancer in diets high in vinegar must
surely be due to the formation of the skim coat and "mother" against the
walls of the bladder with the more pure vinegar insulated so to speak.
Anyone who has observed urine stored over time without refrigeration
will notice a heavy "mother" forming with mold overgrowth not uncommon.

I had not read of vinegar and its effect on glycemic control. Being a
diabetic my conclusion is I need to buy a bottle of balsamic vinegar
dressing :-) Also, sounds like topping with pickle relish when eating
big bread bun style sandwiches might be helpful to control the high
carbs in the bread. Those vinegar carolina slaws on pulled pork
sandwiches is all good it would seem.

After reading that article I am having second thoughts about my Advanced
Colgate Whitening toothpaste. I really like its germ killing effect as I
never seem to have cavities now that I use it, plus have noticed an
improvement in my throat discomfort related to I long suspect rotting
tonsils and adenoids (occasional tonsilloth issues.) However, the
article clearly addresses bleach as a more damaging agent than vinegar
with long term use on mucosal tissues.

I draw the line though at putting vinegar in my ears. Rubbing alchohol
works just fine on these old swimmers ears :-)

On 6/5/2013 9:41 PM, z z wrote:
> Thanks, I quite enjoyed reading that, both from the cooking explanations
> of vinegar, and the medicinal.
>
> My first thought was I had naively always assumed lol that balsamic
> vinegar somehow derives from balsam fir trees i.e. pine sap? Any
> fermentable sugar source, it says. But the article talked about grapes
> in connection with balsamic vinegar?
>
> The actual fermentation of vinegar and the term mother was interesting.
> This reminded me of reading years ago of POW's who would urinate on
> their wounds to control maggots (though my understanding of maggots is
> they eat the dead tissue only?) I knew urine was acidic and my
> conclusion is that urine becomes vinegar after fermenting inside the
> bladder.
>
> The increased risk of bladder cancer in diets high in vinegar must
> surely be due to the formation of the skim coat and "mother" against the
> walls of the bladder with the more pure vinegar insulated so to speak.
> Anyone who has observed urine stored over time without refrigeration
> will notice a heavy "mother" forming with mold overgrowth not uncommon.
>
> I had not read of vinegar and its effect on glycemic control. Being a
> diabetic my conclusion is I need to buy a bottle of balsamic vinegar
> dressing :-) Also, sounds like topping with pickle relish when eating
> big bread bun style sandwiches might be helpful to control the high
> carbs in the bread. Those vinegar carolina slaws on pulled pork
> sandwiches is all good it would seem.
>
> After reading that article I am having second thoughts about my Advanced
> Colgate Whitening toothpaste. I really like its germ killing effect as I
> never seem to have cavities now that I use it, plus have noticed an
> improvement in my throat discomfort related to I long suspect rotting
> tonsils and adenoids (occasional tonsilloth issues.) However, the
> article clearly addresses bleach as a more damaging agent than vinegar
> with long term use on mucosal tissues.
>
> I draw the line though at putting vinegar in my ears. Rubbing alchohol
> works just fine on these old swimmers ears :-)
>

You have just the thoughtful nature to digest and benefit from this link.

The role of vinegar, right back to Biblical times, has been broad based
and reminds me that products of fermentation hold life within themselves
and are far more advanced than what we have embraced in the
post-penicillin age.

The same idiom traces over to Asian foodstuffs, with Kombucha tea now on
my mind.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/31...alth-benefits/

I'll be impartial and note the Mayo Clinic site has some warnings in
it's review, but I think we're seeing that a host of otherwise
naturopathic substances bear real value and have for some good time.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>
>
> It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
>
> compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
>
> homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.
>
A stupid guess. Do you even know WTF "homeopathic" means? Of course you don't.

--Bryan

On 6/6/2013 8:45 AM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
>>
>> compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
>>
>> homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.
>>
> A stupid guess. Do you even know WTF "homeopathic" means? Of course you don't.
>
> --Bryan

It would mean similarity or likeness, in layman's terms, true?

Now please confine your own stupidity to self-analysis in future.

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:35:35 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/6/2013 8:45 AM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
>
> >>
>
> >> compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
>
> >>
>
> >> homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.
>
> >>
>
> > A stupid guess. Do you even know WTF "homeopathic" means? Of course you don't.
>
> >
>
> > --Bryan
>
>
>
> It would mean similarity or likeness, in layman's terms, true?
>
>
>
> Now please confine your own stupidity to self-analysis in future.

In other words, you don't want me to call you out when it's obvious to me that you're just blowing out your ass.

--Bryan

On 6/6/2013 2:08 PM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:35:35 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/6/2013 8:45 AM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>> A stupid guess. Do you even know WTF "homeopathic" means? Of course you don't.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> --Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>> It would mean similarity or likeness, in layman's terms, true?
>>
>>
>>
>> Now please confine your own stupidity to self-analysis in future.
>
> In other words, you don't want me to call you out when it's obvious to me that you're just blowing out your ass.
>
> --Bryan
>
For what it's worth the point I was making had to do with similarity of
PH and a potential homeopathic effect.

I doubt that matters to you, but there it is.

On 6/5/2013 8:14 PM, casa bona wrote:

> I caught the same news item, but the additional questions you have
> raised are eye-openers and timely to boot.
>
> It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
> compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
> homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.
>
> Your other queries must be on the minds of medical researchers even now.
>
> Perhaps you'll find the following paper useful:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785201/
>
> Vinegar: Medicinal Uses and Antiglycemic Effect
> Carol S. Johnston, PhD, RD and Cindy A. Gaas, BS
>
> Great post for a nominally "cooking" group.

Nice article, thanks for sharing that. I read a couple of articles
concerning India, and these articles sounded positive about the vinegar
"pap smear".

zz asked about farm animals having cancer. People get cancer and so do
animals, the longer we live the greater chance we have of getting it.
Doctors have said it is a disease of aging, although some people get it
much earlier.

Most animals that are raised for a source of food do not live long
enough to get it, chickens are slaughtered in 6-8 weeks, pigs are 12
months, cows about 18 months. Those are "round about" numbers. Now I am
waiting for somebody to tell me that pigs are slaughtered in 11 months
and 3 weeks instead of 12 months. You know they do it! ;-)

Becca

On 6/7/2013 1:53 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 6/5/2013 8:14 PM, casa bona wrote:
>
>> I caught the same news item, but the additional questions you have
>> raised are eye-openers and timely to boot.
>>
>> It's possible that the specific PH of the cervical tissue has some
>> compatibility with the vinegar (no jokes guys) and that creates a
>> homeopathic effect. But that's just a guess.
>>
>> Your other queries must be on the minds of medical researchers even now.
>>
>> Perhaps you'll find the following paper useful:
>>
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785201/
>>
>> Vinegar: Medicinal Uses and Antiglycemic Effect
>> Carol S. Johnston, PhD, RD and Cindy A. Gaas, BS
>>
>> Great post for a nominally "cooking" group.
>
> Nice article, thanks for sharing that. I read a couple of articles
> concerning India, and these articles sounded positive about the vinegar
> "pap smear".
>
> zz asked about farm animals having cancer. People get cancer and so do
> animals, the longer we live the greater chance we have of getting it.
> Doctors have said it is a disease of aging, although some people get it
> much earlier.
>
> Most animals that are raised for a source of food do not live long
> enough to get it, chickens are slaughtered in 6-8 weeks, pigs are 12
> months, cows about 18 months. Those are "round about" numbers. Now I am
> waiting for somebody to tell me that pigs are slaughtered in 11 months
> and 3 weeks instead of 12 months. You know they do it! ;-)
>
> Becca
>
>
Mutton, think mutton.

And no need to be sheepish about it either ;-)

On 6/7/2013 4:07 PM, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/7/2013 1:53 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:

>> Most animals that are raised for a source of food do not live long
>> enough to get it, chickens are slaughtered in 6-8 weeks, pigs are 12
>> months, cows about 18 months. Those are "round about" numbers. Now I am
>> waiting for somebody to tell me that pigs are slaughtered in 11 months
>> and 3 weeks instead of 12 months. You know they do it! ;-)
>>
>> Becca
>>
>>
> Mutton, think mutton.
>
> And no need to be sheepish about it either ;-)

Ewe was so Baaaaaaaah-d.

Becca

On 6/7/2013 4:24 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 6/7/2013 4:07 PM, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/7/2013 1:53 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>
>>> Most animals that are raised for a source of food do not live long
>>> enough to get it, chickens are slaughtered in 6-8 weeks, pigs are 12
>>> months, cows about 18 months. Those are "round about" numbers. Now I am
>>> waiting for somebody to tell me that pigs are slaughtered in 11 months
>>> and 3 weeks instead of 12 months. You know they do it! ;-)
>>>
>>> Becca
>>>
>>>
>> Mutton, think mutton.
>>
>> And no need to be sheepish about it either ;-)
>
> Ewe was so Baaaaaaaah-d.
>
> Becca

Lol, well that beats a good smack in the chops.

On 6/5/2013 9:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:14:44 -0600, casa bona wrote:
>
>> Great post for a nominally "cooking" group.
>
> Says the brainless troll from other groups.
>
>
> -sw
>
Says the thoughtless trolled with not much to say ;-)

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:29:08 PM UTC-5, z z wrote:
> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>
> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus? The dramatic
>
> increase in those types of cancers amongst the general population in
>
> recent times now has an explanation unrelated to smoking...
>
I was telling my wife this morning that the next time my 11 YO son sees the doctor, he needs to get the HPV vaccine. If he takes after me, he REALLY needs the HPV vaccine.

--Bryan

It sounds like all young people should get vaccinated though I am
skeptical about vaccines since the flu morphs constantly and constantly
requires new vaccines.

I am actually wondering at my advanced years whether I should get
vaccinated! 2 yrs ago I had an unusual pap smear result and so they
tested me for HPV as one possible cause-my test was negative happily
however it does make you wonder whether this can be transmitted
non-sexually, more so now that this link to throat cancer has been
established.

When Michael Douglas coughed or sneezed would he have expelled droplets
of HPV into the air much in the same way we catch flu or cold virus from
others?

On 6/5/2013 9:48 PM, z z wrote:
> It sounds like all young people should get vaccinated though I am
> skeptical about vaccines since the flu morphs constantly and constantly
> requires new vaccines.
>
> I am actually wondering at my advanced years whether I should get
> vaccinated! 2 yrs ago I had an unusual pap smear result and so they
> tested me for HPV as one possible cause-my test was negative happily
> however it does make you wonder whether this can be transmitted
> non-sexually, more so now that this link to throat cancer has been
> established.
>
> When Michael Douglas coughed or sneezed would he have expelled droplets
> of HPV into the air much in the same way we catch flu or cold virus from
> others?

Aerial bacterium is an interesting vector to ponder.

It's a bit worrisome, for so many reasons, but none the less worth
considering.

I suspect that overall saliva content may have concentrated enough at
the base of his tongue and been the tipping point in his own infection.

But still, one never knows.

There is no shortage of oral sex, nor HPV, sadly.

I will salute his candor in sharing this, albeit after the fact.

He might have saved a life or more.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:02:52 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>
>
> There is no shortage of oral sex

There could never be enough oral sex.

--Bryan

On 6/6/2013 8:47 AM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:02:52 PM UTC-5, casa bona wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is no shortage of oral sex
>
> There could never be enough oral sex.
>
> --Bryan
>

Mr. Douglas might bet to differ now.

On 6/5/2013 11:02 PM, casa bona wrote:

> Aerial bacterium is an interesting vector to ponder.
>
> It's a bit worrisome, for so many reasons, but none the less worth
> considering.
>
> I suspect that overall saliva content may have concentrated enough at
> the base of his tongue and been the tipping point in his own infection.
>
> But still, one never knows.
>
> There is no shortage of oral sex, nor HPV, sadly.
>
> I will salute his candor in sharing this, albeit after the fact.
>
> He might have saved a life or more.


This happening to Michael Douglas (and who knows how many other
celebrities are still in the closet), should make every parent think
twice about getting the HPV vaccine for their children. I am not saying
they should get it, but they should talk to their doctor about it.

Becca

On 6/7/2013 1:38 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 6/5/2013 11:02 PM, casa bona wrote:
>
>> Aerial bacterium is an interesting vector to ponder.
>>
>> It's a bit worrisome, for so many reasons, but none the less worth
>> considering.
>>
>> I suspect that overall saliva content may have concentrated enough at
>> the base of his tongue and been the tipping point in his own infection.
>>
>> But still, one never knows.
>>
>> There is no shortage of oral sex, nor HPV, sadly.
>>
>> I will salute his candor in sharing this, albeit after the fact.
>>
>> He might have saved a life or more.
>
>
> This happening to Michael Douglas (and who knows how many other
> celebrities are still in the closet), should make every parent think
> twice about getting the HPV vaccine for their children. I am not saying
> they should get it, but they should talk to their doctor about it.
>
> Becca

That's a reasonable thing to explore.

WebMD has a discussion on this:

http://children.webmd.com/vaccines/f...et-hpv-vaccine

Two very new vaccines with different levels of protection.

On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 14:38:35 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:
snip
>
>This happening to Michael Douglas (and who knows how many other
>celebrities are still in the closet), should make every parent think
>twice about getting the HPV vaccine for their children. I am not saying
>they should get it, but they should talk to their doctor about it.
>
>Becca

'In the closet?' I don't believe that Michael Douglas was saying that
he performed oral sex on another man.
Janet US

On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:38:35 PM UTC-5, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 6/5/2013 11:02 PM, casa bona wrote:
>
>
>
> > Aerial bacterium is an interesting vector to ponder.
>
> >
>
> > It's a bit worrisome, for so many reasons, but none the less worth
>
> > considering.
>
> >
>
> > I suspect that overall saliva content may have concentrated enough at
>
> > the base of his tongue and been the tipping point in his own infection.
>
> >
>
> > But still, one never knows.
>
> >
>
> > There is no shortage of oral sex, nor HPV, sadly.
>
> >
>
> > I will salute his candor in sharing this, albeit after the fact.
>
> >
>
> > He might have saved a life or more.
>
>
>
>
>
> This happening to Michael Douglas (and who knows how many other
>
> celebrities are still in the closet), should make every parent think
>
> twice about getting the HPV vaccine for their children. I am not saying
>
> they should get it, but they should talk to their doctor about it.
>
They SHOULD get it. Children should be as immunized as they can be. People who choose not to immunize deserve dead children.
>
> Becca

--Bryan

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:48:31 PM UTC-5, z z wrote:
> It sounds like all young people should get vaccinated though I am
>
> skeptical about vaccines since the flu morphs constantly and constantly
>
> requires new vaccines.
>
>
>
> I am actually wondering at my advanced years whether I should get
>
> vaccinated! 2 yrs ago I had an unusual pap smear result and so they
>
> tested me for HPV as one possible cause-my test was negative happily
>
> however it does make you wonder whether this can be transmitted
>
> non-sexually, more so now that this link to throat cancer has been
>
> established.
>
They don't recommend it for adults because they assume most adults have already been exposed to all the strains already.

--Bryan

Another reason for young boys to get vaccinated is due to sports. Bodily
fluids do get exchanged during wrestling and basketball, in particular.
Frankly, I view HPV as one more reason to never again go in a public
waterpark, swimming pool, or hot tub.

ps I hope People Magazine runs a big display about Michael Douglas
because by going public with this he has done a huge service to the
public.

z z wrote:
> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus? The dramatic
> increase in those types of cancers amongst the general population in
> recent times now has an explanation unrelated to smoking...
>
This is not new news. I have heard/read that before. But can't remember
where.

> At the same time did you catch a small news story (CNN) about an
> amazing medical use for vinegar? Many women in poor rural countries
> do not have access to modern medicine. We ladies are familiar with
> the pap smear. Well, the low tech method of pap smear is to apply
> vinegar to the cervix and using a flashlight (and presumably a
> speculum) look for white spots, is what I gathered from this news
> article.
>
> Apparently, ordinary vinegar has a reaction with the protein in cancer
> cells causing those cells to turn white.
>
> Possessing an enquiring mind, I immediately thought of Michael
> Douglas' throat cancer. Say ahhh with a flashlight and a spray bottle
> of vinegar?
>
> And what of other cancer cells? (News stories never answer all my
> questions.) Do they also react in this manner? Why do not all cells
> react in this manner? How long does it take for the reaction to reach
> visible stage?
>
> Men get a PSA blood test-what other applications for vinegar testing
> might exist? If one has leukemia, would vinegar applied to a blood
> smear react in a similar manner?
>
> Finally, haven't you ever wondered about our food supply-do cows pigs
> fish etc get cancer? Do we even test for that? Marinating meat in
> vinegar?

Well, animals do get cancer.

On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:

> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?

No.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>
>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>
> No.

At first he said that it was. Then he changed his tune and said that it
might be related to that.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>
>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>
> No.

Me either.

Cheri

On 6/6/2013 10:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>>
>> No.
>
> Me either.
>
> Cheri

The story appears to have caused a lot of interest but I have tried to
avoid reading about it.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/6/2013 10:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>>>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Me either.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> The story appears to have caused a lot of interest but I have tried to
> avoid reading about it.

Same here
--
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 6/6/2013 10:59 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 6/6/2013 10:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>>>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Me either.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> The story appears to have caused a lot of interest but I have tried to
> avoid reading about it.
>
I was more interested in watching old episodes of 'All in the Family'.
Jean Stapleton died on 5/31 at the age of 90. "Antenna TV" showed back
to back episodes of some of the earlier shows on Tuesday in her memory.

Jill

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/6/2013 10:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>>>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Me either.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> The story appears to have caused a lot of interest but I have tried to
> avoid reading about it.

Honestly, I have not seen it in my newspaper to read it, first I heard about
it was in this newsgroup just recently. I did know that he had throat cancer
though.

Cheri

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:54:36 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>
>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>
>No.

You probably should check in on it. Not because of Michael Douglas,
but because it impacts inoculating both girls and boys against the hpv
virus -- which many parents refuse to do because their child isn't
that kind of child that will ever have sex of any kind and therefore
no ovarian cancer or other cancers suspected to be caused by the
virus. In a way, this is a perceived tinfoil hat or black helicopter
issue. No gubment is gonna tell me what I should do with my kid.
Janet US

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:10:53 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:54:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>>
>>No.
>
>You probably should check in on it. Not because of Michael Douglas,
>but because it impacts inoculating both girls and boys against the hpv
>virus -- which many parents refuse to do because their child isn't
>that kind of child that will ever have sex of any kind and therefore
>no ovarian cancer or other cancers suspected to be caused by the
>virus. In a way, this is a perceived tinfoil hat or black helicopter
>issue. No gubment is gonna tell me what I should do with my kid.
>Janet US

correction, cervical cancer

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:54:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
>>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>>
>>No.
>
> You probably should check in on it. Not because of Michael Douglas,
> but because it impacts inoculating both girls and boys against the hpv
> virus -- which many parents refuse to do because their child isn't
> that kind of child that will ever have sex of any kind and therefore
> no ovarian cancer or other cancers suspected to be caused by the
> virus. In a way, this is a perceived tinfoil hat or black helicopter
> issue. No gubment is gonna tell me what I should do with my kid.
> Janet US

hpv?

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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:37:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:54:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
> >>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
> >>
> >>No.
> >
> > You probably should check in on it. Not because of Michael Douglas,
> > but because it impacts inoculating both girls and boys against the hpv
> > virus -- which many parents refuse to do because their child isn't
> > that kind of child that will ever have sex of any kind and therefore
> > no ovarian cancer or other cancers suspected to be caused by the
> > virus. In a way, this is a perceived tinfoil hat or black helicopter
> > issue. No gubment is gonna tell me what I should do with my kid.
> > Janet US
>
> hpv?
>
> --
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:37:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:54:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his
>> >>> throat
>> >>> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
>> >>
>> >>No.
>> >
>> > You probably should check in on it. Not because of Michael Douglas,
>> > but because it impacts inoculating both girls and boys against the hpv
>> > virus -- which many parents refuse to do because their child isn't
>> > that kind of child that will ever have sex of any kind and therefore
>> > no ovarian cancer or other cancers suspected to be caused by the
>> > virus. In a way, this is a perceived tinfoil hat or black helicopter
>> > issue. No gubment is gonna tell me what I should do with my kid.
>> > Janet US
>>
>> hpv?
>>
>> --
> Human Papillomavirus (HPV)

Ahh! Thanks!

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On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:10:53 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:54:36 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:29:08 -0500, (z z) wrote:
> >
> >> I am sure you all read the Michael Douglas news story about his throat
> >> cancer being related to oral sex and the hpv virus?
> >
> >No.
>
> You probably should check in on it. Not because of Michael Douglas,
> but because it impacts inoculating both girls and boys against the hpv
> virus -- which many parents refuse to do because their child isn't
> that kind of child that will ever have sex of any kind and therefore
> no ovarian cancer or other cancers suspected to be caused by the
> virus. In a way, this is a perceived tinfoil hat or black helicopter
> issue. No gubment is gonna tell me what I should do with my kid.

My HMO is on top of inoculations and my kids are on their own now, but
they had the hepatitis vaccines when they were the appropriate age.

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