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Any favorites worth mentioning in your neck of the woods?
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> Any favorites worth mentioning in your neck of the woods?


The Table

http://www.thetablerestaurant.com/about_us.html

The Green Door

http://www.thegreendoor.ca/

When in Montreal, Le Commensal (any one of four locations).

http://commensal.com/index_ang.htm

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On 05/14/2013 09:28 PM, Michel Boucher wrote:
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>> Any favorites worth mentioning in your neck of the woods?


> When in Montreal, Le Commensal (any one of four locations).
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> http://commensal.com/index_ang.htm
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Hmmmm. 'Flexitarian buffets - Chicken, Shrimps, Crab' - I'd also go for
that. Jack says he's a Fleshitarian (he'll eat meat - sans bones and fat)

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These are vegan but...

Flying Apron in Seattle. Really a bakery but they also sell lunches.
Really good stuff.

Chaco Canyon, also in Seattle. Have not been there personally but it gets
rave reviews.


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On 14/05/2013 5:28 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
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> I saw a bumper sticker in a parking lot- 'Vaginatarian' . it took
> me a minute or two before it sunk in. [Don't know if it was a
> guy's truck or a gal's.]
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Either way... I agree.



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On 05/15/2013 12:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

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> Having said that, I won't be going vegetarian any time soon. It just
> wouldn't be a hardship to have vegetarian days, I love vegetables (even
> cabbage). Okay, not rutabaga/turnip.


That works out really well; you can have my share of cabbage, and I'll
have your turnips (especially in soups) ;-)

It's autumn in our neck of the woods, so I've been making big pots of
vegetable soups... Yum.

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Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:02:06 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
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>> Any favorites worth mentioning in your neck of the woods?

>
> Here in the SFBA, there is a landmark vegetarian restaurant: Greens.
> Showed that vegetarian food doesn't have to be all brown rice and
> beans, nor loaded with cheese.
>
> The founding chef was Deborah Madison, along with Edward Espe Brown of
> Tassajara fame. Together, they wrote the Greens Cookbook, which is
> still a fantastic cookbook to use and cook from.
>
> http://www.greensrestaurant.com/
>
> Christine
>

One of my favorites is an Indian vegetarian restaurant. It opened
fairly near my abode a few years ago, but it took me until ca six
months ago to get there. Most of the food is really good, and
there are often dishes that I have never seen before. In think
the only dishes that I don't like have been saag dishes. The
spinach is pretty close to what you'd get if you cooked a package
of frozen chopped spinach, squeezed out the moisture and didn't do
much else with it.

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Too informal and the food too simple to be called a "restaurant", but in
Melbourne I like Gopal's, which is in the CBD's main street and run by Hare
Krishna devotees. Its lassi is to die for and I love the spicing of the soups.
The menu changes daily but according to this article the ingredients never
includes onion, mushroom or garlic.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/restau...637856365.html


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I like veggies. But the couple of times I went to vegetarian restaurants
they had so many "fake meat" dishes I was put off. Most of the "fake meats"
were greasy globs that nobody in their right mind (i.e. non-vegetarians)
could possibly even pretend was something like meat. So, I just get veggie
dishes at Asian or Indian restaurants now and then.


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> Too informal and the food too simple to be called a "restaurant"


Okay, the article _does_ do that.

> http://www.theage.com.au/news/restau...637856365.html





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On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:02:06 +0200, ChattyCathy
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>Any favorites worth mentioning in your neck of the woods?


There are none at all within 25 miles that I'm aware of. Used to be
one about 30 miles, but never tried it.
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John openly wondered:

>>Too informal and the food too simple to be called a "restaurant", but in
>>Melbourne I like Gopal's, which is in the CBD's main street and run by
>>Hare Krishna devotees.

>
> "dishes are prepared daily (although you won't find onion, garlic or
> mushrooms)."
>
> I wonder why.


Onions, garlic, and mushrooms are prohibited in the Hare Krishna diet for
religious/superstitious reasons. They believe that mushrooms are
aphrodisiacs, and they believe that onions and garlic "heat the blood" and
cloud reason.

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> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
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>
> I like veggies. But the couple of times I went to vegetarian restaurants
> they had so many "fake meat" dishes I was put off. Most of the "fake
> meats" were greasy globs that nobody in their right mind (i.e.
> non-vegetarians) could possibly even pretend was something like meat. So,
> I just get veggie dishes at Asian or Indian restaurants now and then.


Most of the dishes at the vegetarian restaurants here are not like that.
But they also do not have a lot of bean dishes and I really wish that they
did.


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On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:42:59 UTC+10, John J wrote:
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> "dishes are prepared daily (although you won't find onion, garlic or
> mushrooms)."
>
> I wonder why.


It's descended from Jain food prohibitions. No root vegetables, since microorganisms, the life of which we should not take, live underground and therefore on them. No fermented foods, either, for the same reasons (so no yoghurt, no vinegar). Or rotten food! IIRC, fungi are classified as "rotten food".

Other Indian religions follow the same prohibitions, even if the stated reasons have mutated over the last 2 millenia. "No garlic or vinegar because these promote ignorance."
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On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 11:24:50 UTC+10, DavidW wrote:
> DavidW wrote:
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> > Too informal and the food too simple to be called a "restaurant"

>
> Okay, the article _does_ do that.
>
> > http://www.theage.com.au/news/restau...637856365.html


Our local Gopal's here in Brisbane is quite good. Mostly Indian food, but not exclusively so (I've seen SE Asian dishes; perhaps they do others too).


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Timo wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:42:59 UTC+10, John J wrote:
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>> "dishes are prepared daily (although you won't find onion, garlic or
>> mushrooms)."
>>
>> I wonder why.

>
> It's descended from Jain food prohibitions. No root vegetables, since
> microorganisms, the life of which we should not take, live
> underground and therefore on them. No fermented foods, either, for
> the same reasons (so no yoghurt, no vinegar). Or rotten food! IIRC,
> fungi are classified as "rotten food".


A bit of Googling shows that there's some debate over the status of yeast-based
foods should be allowed, since it is micro-organisms.


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John J wrote:
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>> and run by Hare Krishna devotees.

>
> "dishes are prepared daily (although you won't find onion, garlic or
> mushrooms)."
>
> I wonder why.


Apparently they can only eats foods that can be offered to Krishna. Foods are
divided onto categories and anything in a "bad" category (for whatever reason)
is out.


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> A bit of Googling shows that there's some debate over the status of
> yeast-based foods should be allowed, since it is micro-organisms.


Try that again:
A bit of Googling shows there's some debate over the status of yeast-based
foods, since yeast is micro-organisms.


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Timo wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 11:24:50 UTC+10, DavidW wrote:
>> DavidW wrote:
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>>> Too informal and the food too simple to be called a "restaurant"

>>
>> Okay, the article _does_ do that.
>>
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/news/restau...637856365.html

>
> Our local Gopal's here in Brisbane is quite good. Mostly Indian food,
> but not exclusively so (I've seen SE Asian dishes; perhaps they do
> others too).


Good. I didn't know it existed elsewhere. Maybe it's a lot like ours.


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I forgot about Cafe Flora. Another place I'd like to try. And I just found
this one called Carmelita:

http://www.carmelita.net/

I would *love* to go there but I don't know anyone else who would go with
me. Nobody else I know is a vegetarian and although they might do with
a meatless meal now and again, I highly doubt that they would be satisfied
to have this stuff as a meal.




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On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:50:06 UTC+10, DavidW wrote:
> Timo wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:42:59 UTC+10, John J wrote:
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> >> "dishes are prepared daily (although you won't find onion, garlic or
> >> mushrooms)."
> >>
> >> I wonder why.

> >
> > It's descended from Jain food prohibitions. No root vegetables, since
> > microorganisms, the life of which we should not take, live
> > underground and therefore on them. No fermented foods, either, for
> > the same reasons (so no yoghurt, no vinegar). Or rotten food! IIRC,
> > fungi are classified as "rotten food".

>
> A bit of Googling shows there's some debate over the status of yeast-based

foods, since yeast is micro-organisms.

I wasn't aware of any debate on yeast in Jainism - AFAIK, it's well-accepted as prohibited. Other religions will vary on whether they classify yeast as vegetarian/ahimsa acceptable. There is debate on yeast among the Hare Krishnas.

Potatoes are interesting, coming to the India long after these religions developed. Some religions went "root vegetable, so forbidden", and others went "it isn't on our list of forbidden foods, so we can eat it".

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On 05/15/2013 04:40 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:02:06 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
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>> Any favorites worth mentioning in your neck of the woods?

>
> There are none at all within 25 miles that I'm aware of. Used to be
> one about 30 miles, but never tried it.
>


No 'dedicated' vegetarian restaurants that I know of within 80-odd kms
from where I live either. There are of course some restaurants that
specialize in Asian/Indian food - but they also have some meat dishes on
their menus. Have had some of their meals - and while they were
employable, didn't find any of said meals worth writing home to Mother
about.

FWIW, watching more cooking shows on TV prompted this thread; saw (yet
another) episode of MasterChef where the contestants were required to
cook 'hearty/filling' vegetarian-only meals for a crew of marquee
riggers (who were not known to be vegetarians)...

Thing that surprised me most was that the 'advisory guest chef' they had
on the show (whose name escapes me, but is allegedly famous for being a
top vegetarian chef) was not overly impressed with the one
self-proclaimed vegetarian contestant. ... Of course the 'regular'
judges pushed her through to the next round anyway.

Like I said in a previous post, Gordon Ramsay couldn't do much worse
than these chumps.
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On 05/15/2013 04:37 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:

<spelling/grammar alert>

>and while they were *employable*, didn't find any of said meals worth writing home to Mother
> about.


Apologies. Please make that 'enjoyable'
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On 5/15/2013 10:40 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On 05/15/2013 04:37 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
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> <spelling/grammar alert>
>
>> and while they were *employable*, didn't find any of said meals worth
>> writing home to Mother
>> about.

>
> Apologies. Please make that 'enjoyable'


I thought my eyes were deceiving me until I read it again. I knew what
you meant.

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Timo wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:50:06 UTC+10, DavidW wrote:
>> Timo wrote:
>>> It's descended from Jain food prohibitions. No root vegetables,
>>> since microorganisms, the life of which we should not take, live
>>> underground and therefore on them. No fermented foods, either, for
>>> the same reasons (so no yoghurt, no vinegar). Or rotten food! IIRC,
>>> fungi are classified as "rotten food".

>>
>> A bit of Googling shows there's some debate over the status of
>> yeast-based

> foods, since yeast is micro-organisms.
>
> I wasn't aware of any debate on yeast in Jainism - AFAIK, it's
> well-accepted as prohibited. Other religions will vary on whether
> they classify yeast as vegetarian/ahimsa acceptable. There is debate
> on yeast among the Hare Krishnas.


Yes, a debate among Hare Krishnas was all I meant.

> Potatoes are interesting, coming to the India long after these
> religions developed. Some religions went "root vegetable, so
> forbidden", and others went "it isn't on our list of forbidden foods,
> so we can eat it".


Well, I can't live without potatoes. That would override any religious
considerations.




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On 15/05/2013 4:49 AM, Timo wrote:
> ds, since yeast is micro-organisms.
>
> I wasn't aware of any debate on yeast in Jainism - AFAIK, it's
> well-accepted as prohibited. Other religions will vary on whether
> they classify yeast as vegetarian/ahimsa acceptable. There is debate
> on yeast among the Hare Krishnas.
>
> Potatoes are interesting, coming to the India long after these
> religions developed. Some religions went "root vegetable, so
> forbidden", and others went "it isn't on our list of forbidden foods,
> so we can eat it".
>




New religions are popping up all the time. When you have a country with
hundreds of millions of people there are always going to be a few people
who are going to want to be different and either start their own
religion or hook up with some little cult or sect. When you have that
many people it's not so hard to others with the same strange quirk.
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