On 05/03/2013 4:17 PM, John J wrote:

>>
>>
>> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
>> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me to
>> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
>> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
>> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure were
>> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.
>
> I think it's touching that a meat eater worries so much about the fair
> treatment of tofu.
>


Yes, well, isn't that special.

On 3/5/2013 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me to
> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure were
> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.

I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make me
laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to be
meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)

If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged "vegetarian"
or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the first cow they see.

Jill

On 3/4/2013 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 3/1/2013 7:17 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> Unfortunately, Asians have not fully embraced the concept of "dessert."
>> A tragedy!
>
> My Japanese stepmother once asked about putting frosting on a cake,
> Won't that make it sweet?
>
> Yes, Mom. It will.
>
> nancy
>
>
I haven't embraced the concept of "dessert" either. It wasn't something
I grew up with. Dessert was an occasional treat on holidays.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 3/5/2013 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
>> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me to
>> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
>> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
>> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure were
>> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.
>
> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make me
> laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to be meat.
> (And yes, I've tried them.)
>
> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged "vegetarian"
> or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the first cow they see.

I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting and
everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to eat them
now that I know what is in them. I do on occasion buy the Sunshine burgers.
They are made of black beans. Although they are in the shape of a burger
patty, I do not think they pretend to be meat. I like the Southwestern kind
and I nuke them until slightly crunchy. I do not eat on a bun. Just break
pieces off and eat. Daughter prefers the BBQ ones but she likes the soft
and eaten with a fork.

In article >, says...

> I have never gotten weak or shaky on a vegetarian or even a vegan diet.
> Slightly anemic? Yes. There are vegan body builders. They hardly look
> weak or shaky.
>
> http://veganbodybuilder.org/


says, quote

"It is known that in order to increase muscle mass, you need to consume
meat due to its increased protein level.So, the question is, how can
there be such a thing as vegan bodybuilding under these circumstances?
There CAN be and it is actually quite commonly met nowadays, because
proteins can be obtained from products that are not of animal origin,
such as whey for instance."

Whey IS of animal origin, any body-builder using it as their protein
source is not vegan.

Janet UK

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/5/2013 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
>>> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me to
>>> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
>>> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
>>> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure were
>>> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.
>>
>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make me
>> laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to be meat.
>> (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>
>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged "vegetarian"
>> or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the first cow they
>> see.
>
> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting and
> everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to eat them
> now that I know what is in them.

What *was* in them?


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 3/5/2013 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
>>>> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me to
>>>> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
>>>> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
>>>> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure
>>>> were
>>>> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.
>>>
>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make me
>>> laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to be
>>> meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>
>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged "vegetarian"
>>> or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the first cow they
>>> see.
>>
>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting and
>> everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to eat
>> them now that I know what is in them.
>
> What *was* in them?
>
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 3/5/2013 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
>>>> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me to
>>>> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
>>>> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
>>>> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure
>>>> were
>>>> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.
>>>
>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make me
>>> laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to be
>>> meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>
>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged "vegetarian"
>>> or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the first cow they
>>> see.
>>
>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting and
>> everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to eat
>> them now that I know what is in them.
>
> What *was* in them?

Soy.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>>> On 3/5/2013 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is made with stuff that can be cooked up and spice up on its own
>>>>> without being made to look like meat dishes. It just seems odd to me
>>>>> to
>>>>> eschew meat and meat dishes and to replace them with things that look
>>>>> and taste (somewhat ) like meat. If you want meat dishes, eat meat. I
>>>>> have had vegetarian Indian meals that were delicious, but they sure
>>>>> were
>>>>> dressed up to make them look and taste like what they were not.
>>>>
>>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make me
>>>> laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to be
>>>> meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>>
>>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>>> first cow they see.
>>>
>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>>
>> What *was* in them?
>
> Soy.

ewww

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On 3/6/2013 9:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make
>>> me laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to
>>> be meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>
>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>> first cow they see.
>>
>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>
> What *was* in them?
>
Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":

Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
(PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
(COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS
THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND
SOY PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK,
CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC
ACID), DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME
OIL, DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.

Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 3/6/2013 9:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make
>>>> me laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to
>>>> be meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>>
>>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>>> first cow they see.
>>>
>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>>
>> What *was* in them?
>>
> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>
> Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
> (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
> (COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS THAN
> 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND SOY
> PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK, CHEESE
> CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC ACID),
> DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME OIL,
> DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>
> Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>

Oh yummerooonie ... I am surprised they had enough space for meat! People
survived eating that stuff??
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On 3/7/2013 9:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/6/2013 9:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make
>>>>> me laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to
>>>>> be meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>>>> first cow they see.
>>>>
>>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>>>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>>>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>>>
>>> What *was* in them?
>>>
>> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>>
>> Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
>> (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>> (COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS THAN
>> 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND SOY
>> PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK, CHEESE
>> CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC ACID),
>> DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME OIL,
>> DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>>
>> Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
>
> Oh yummerooonie ... I am surprised they had enough space for meat!
> People survived eating that stuff??

Apparently there is a wide market for it. I've tasted this (and a few
other meatless vegetarian products). They didn't taste bad. But stop
pretending it's a "burger" with an allusion to hamburger. I don't want
to eat something containing a bunch of ingredients I can barely pronounce.

Jill

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 3/6/2013 9:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make
>>>>> me laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to
>>>>> be meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>>>> first cow they see.
>>>>
>>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>>>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>>>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>>>
>>> What *was* in them?
>>>
>> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>>
>> Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
>> (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>> (COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS THAN
>> 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND SOY
>> PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK, CHEESE
>> CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC ACID),
>> DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME OIL,
>> DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>>
>> Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
>
> Oh yummerooonie ... I am surprised they had enough space for meat! People
> survived eating that stuff??
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Now they may have changed the recipe since I ate them, but back in the late
90's/early 00's they did taste good. And I believed they were good for me
because they contained soy.

When I learned of the connection between soy and thyroid problems, I for the
most part stopped consuming soy. Yes, there is soybean oil everywhere and
soy lecithin in things like vitamins. I worry less about those things. No
more roasted soy nuts. No more edamame or miso. I never did like tofu.

My current dietician claims that edamame, miso and tofu are safe. It is the
soy protein we should avoid. And that is in sooo many processed foods in
this country. Even in things where you wouldn't expect it.

On 3/7/2013 10:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/6/2013 9:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make
>>>>>> me laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to
>>>>>> be meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>>>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>>>>> first cow they see.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>>>>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>>>>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>>>>
>>>> What *was* in them?
>>>>
>>> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>>>
>>> Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
>>> (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>>> (COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS THAN
>>> 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND SOY
>>> PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK, CHEESE
>>> CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC ACID),
>>> DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME OIL,
>>> DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>>>
>>> Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
>>
>> Oh yummerooonie ... I am surprised they had enough space for meat! People
>> survived eating that stuff??
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>
> Now they may have changed the recipe since I ate them, but back in the late
> 90's/early 00's they did taste good.

Of course companies change these recipes a lot. I did say they didn't
taste bad. That doesn't mean they tasted good, either. I don't like a
bunch of processed foods and don't understand why vegans, much less
liberal <G> vegetarians would eat this.

And I believed they were good for me
> because they contained soy.
>
It's the same thing with so many foods... it's good for you, no wait,
it's bad for you. (The *collective* you, not you Julie.) Skipping away
from vegan: eggs bad, no wait, they're okay. Bacon, bad. Oh, sorry,
now it's okay. I don't let alarmist food reports or trends affect me.
I haven't died so far. One thing I won't do is eat Boca Burgers or
Morningstar Farms chock-full-of-crap products ever again. One taste was
enough.

Jill

On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:54:15 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/6/2013 9:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> I see so many things in the freezer case at the store that just make
>>>> me laugh. "Boca Burgers" and Morningstar Farms products pretend to
>>>> be meat. (And yes, I've tried them.)
>>>>
>>>> If anyone bothers to read the ingredients on these packaged
>>>> "vegetarian" or "vegan" food items they'd run screaming towards the
>>>> first cow they see.
>>>
>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting
>>> and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to
>>> eat them now that I know what is in them.
>>
>> What *was* in them?
>>
>Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>
>Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
>(PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>(COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS
>THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND
>SOY PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK,
>CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC
>ACID), DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME
>OIL, DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>
>Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>

A virtual chem lab... all the more reason to eat my favorite:
http://www.spam.com/spam-101/what-is-spam-classic

On 3/7/2013 1:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>> >
>> >Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
>> >(PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>> >(COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS
>> >THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND
>> >SOY PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK,
>> >CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC
>> >ACID), DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME
>> >OIL, DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>> >
>> >Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
> A virtual chem lab... all the more reason to eat my favorite:
> http://www.spam.com/spam-101/what-is-spam-classic

I happen to like Spam, I keep a couple of cans in the pantry. Sliced
pan-fried Spam with eggs is an occasional treat. Mostly I keep it
around in case the power goes out. It cooks up nicely on a grill.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> I happen to like Spam, I keep a couple of cans in the pantry. Sliced
> pan-fried Spam with eggs is an occasional treat. Mostly I keep it around
> in case the power goes out. It cooks up nicely on a grill.
>
> Jill


I like Spam too. I usually have it in the pantry.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 3/7/2013 1:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>>> >
>>> >Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
>>> >(PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>>> >(COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS
>>> >THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND
>>> >SOY PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK,
>>> >CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC
>>> >ACID), DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME
>>> >OIL, DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>>> >
>>> >Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
>> A virtual chem lab... all the more reason to eat my favorite:
>> http://www.spam.com/spam-101/what-is-spam-classic
>
> I happen to like Spam, I keep a couple of cans in the pantry. Sliced
> pan-fried Spam with eggs is an occasional treat. Mostly I keep it around
> in case the power goes out. It cooks up nicely on a grill.
>
> Jill

Let me not to the contents of thy can
Add any condiments. Spam is not Spam
When altered by unbalanced minds,
Or flaked when the remover doth remove:
O no; it is the ever-fixèd pork,
Uncooked, ungarnished, and by Time undinted;
It is like gold to every plundering fork,
Whose worth's unknown, although its price be printed.
Spam's not uncool, though rosy-hued and cheap
And from it oily trickles constant come;
Spam alters not, doth neither wake nor sleep,
It's worth cries out though it be deaf and dumb.
If this be error, and such claims a sham,
Ne'er have I writ, and ne'er man ate of Spam.

And there are more from where that came!
Graham

On 3/9/2013 9:31 AM, graham wrote:

> Let me not to the contents of thy can
> Add any condiments. Spam is not Spam
> When altered by unbalanced minds,
> Or flaked when the remover doth remove:
> O no; it is the ever-fixèd pork,
> Uncooked, ungarnished, and by Time undinted;
> It is like gold to every plundering fork,
> Whose worth's unknown, although its price be printed.
> Spam's not uncool, though rosy-hued and cheap
> And from it oily trickles constant come;
> Spam alters not, doth neither wake nor sleep,
> It's worth cries out though it be deaf and dumb.
> If this be error, and such claims a sham,
> Ne'er have I writ, and ne'er man ate of Spam.
>
> And there are more from where that came!
>
That (almost) makes me want to rush out and buy some!

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>> On 3/7/2013 1:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>>>> >
>>>> >Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR
>>>> >CHEESE
>>>> >(PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
>>>> >(COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS
>>>> >THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND
>>>> >SOY PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK,
>>>> >CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC
>>>> >ACID), DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME
>>>> >OIL, DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>>>> >
>>>> >Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
>>> A virtual chem lab... all the more reason to eat my favorite:
>>> http://www.spam.com/spam-101/what-is-spam-classic
>>
>> I happen to like Spam, I keep a couple of cans in the pantry. Sliced
>> pan-fried Spam with eggs is an occasional treat. Mostly I keep it around
>> in case the power goes out. It cooks up nicely on a grill.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Let me not to the contents of thy can
> Add any condiments. Spam is not Spam
> When altered by unbalanced minds,
> Or flaked when the remover doth remove:
> O no; it is the ever-fixèd pork,
> Uncooked, ungarnished, and by Time undinted;
> It is like gold to every plundering fork,
> Whose worth's unknown, although its price be printed.
> Spam's not uncool, though rosy-hued and cheap
> And from it oily trickles constant come;
> Spam alters not, doth neither wake nor sleep,
> It's worth cries out though it be deaf and dumb.
> If this be error, and such claims a sham,
> Ne'er have I writ, and ne'er man ate of Spam.
>
> And there are more from where that came!

lol brilliant)))

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dsi1 wrote:
> On 3/4/2013 6:20 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> Japanese candy kinda sucks. It's pretty bland stuff compared to what
>>> we grew up with. We had sucrose and now HFC syrup and they use less
>>> intense sugars and sweets made from rice. Japan caramel is OK though.
>>>
>>> Their cakes are great! I guess things have changed a lot in the Japan
>>> cake department since the 50s-60s. They like French-style pastries.
>>
>> Mmmmm. Cakies. We would get them at a neighborhood cake shop. And then
>> there are the food basements in department stores where some of the
>> stalls were indeed for French desserts.
>
> Those cakes are most amazing and wonderful. In America, we have
> cupcakes. That's the breaks.

I have fonder memories of the cakies. It was also nice that one
could afford a little slice even if one was somewhat poor. Oddly
enough, except for the dessert buffet at the hotel (pre low-carb),
I don't remember eating any of those little goodies when I went
back a couple of years ago. I could have eaten EVERY meal in
those department store basements though.

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Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 3/4/2013 10:23 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>> Ema Nymton wrote:
>
>>> There is a Vietnamese dessert that I like, called Banh da Lon, it is
>>> green and white striped. It is not very sweet, but I just love it. I
>>> can only find it at the Asian market, someone makes it and sells it on
>>> those styrofoam trays covered with plastic wrap, like when you buy meat.
>>>
>>> Becca
>>
>> I have seen that. I am wondering whether the green layer is pandan(us)
>> while the white layer is coconut.
>
> Next time I buy some, I will check out the label more closely. I do
> remember it contained mung bean paste.
>
> Becca
>
Ah. Not what I am thinking of then. I would still like to know
what is in it.

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Julie Bove wrote:
> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great tasting and
> everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't pay me to eat them
> now that I know what is in them. I do on occasion buy the Sunshine burgers.
> They are made of black beans. Although they are in the shape of a burger
> patty, I do not think they pretend to be meat. I like the Southwestern kind
> and I nuke them until slightly crunchy. I do not eat on a bun. Just break
> pieces off and eat. Daughter prefers the BBQ ones but she likes the soft
> and eaten with a fork.
>
>
I used to buy the original Boca Burgers, but they changed many,
many years ago. That was the end of that.

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jmcquown wrote:
> Ingredients for that "All American Boca Burger":
>
> Ingredients: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE
> (PASTEURIZED PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO
> (COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE), WHEAT GLUTEN, CORN OIL, CONTAINS LESS
> THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, HYDROLYZED CORN PROTEIN, WHEAT GLUTEN AND
> SOY PROTEIN, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, CHEESE POWDER (CHEDDAR CHEESE (MILK,
> CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES), CREAM, SALT, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTIC
> ACID), DRIED ONIONS, YEAST EXTRACT, NATURAL FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), SESAME
> OIL, DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE, BROWNED IN CORN OIL.
>
> Sounds tasty, doesn't it? <snort>
>
> Jill

Not something I would let pass my lips now. Yuck. I wonder what
was in them when the company started out, which is when I was
eating them.

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Jean B. wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great
>> tasting and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't
>> pay me to eat them now that I know what is in them. I do on
>> occasion buy the Sunshine burgers. They are made of black beans. Although
>> they are in the shape of a burger patty, I do not think
>> they pretend to be meat. I like the Southwestern kind and I nuke
>> them until slightly crunchy. I do not eat on a bun. Just break
>> pieces off and eat. Daughter prefers the BBQ ones but she likes the
>> soft and eaten with a fork.
> I used to buy the original Boca Burgers, but they changed many,
> many years ago. That was the end of that.

Oh! That could be. It has probably been 10 years since I ate one.

Julie Bove wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I used to buy the All American Boca Burgers. They were great
>>> tasting and everyone I served them to loved them. But you couldn't
>>> pay me to eat them now that I know what is in them. I do on
>>> occasion buy the Sunshine burgers. They are made of black beans. Although
>>> they are in the shape of a burger patty, I do not think
>>> they pretend to be meat. I like the Southwestern kind and I nuke
>>> them until slightly crunchy. I do not eat on a bun. Just break
>>> pieces off and eat. Daughter prefers the BBQ ones but she likes the
>>> soft and eaten with a fork.
>> I used to buy the original Boca Burgers, but they changed many,
>> many years ago. That was the end of that.
>
> Oh! That could be. It has probably been 10 years since I ate one.
>
>
I can't place when I was eating them in time, but it was quite a
bit more than 10 years ago.

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