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Somebody 10-10-2012 12:23 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?



Chemo[_2_] 10-10-2012 12:25 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 9, 4:23*pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?


What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

Somebody 10-10-2012 12:30 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
"Chemo" > wrote in message
...

What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

---

Please, f**k that shit... Heine or Becks. I got standards!



John Kuthe[_2_] 10-10-2012 02:07 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>"Chemo" > wrote in message
...
>
>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.
>
>---
>
>Please, f**k that shit... Heine or Becks. I got standards!
>


The better the beer, the better it is warm.

John Kuthe...

Ed Pawlowski 10-10-2012 03:15 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
wrote:

>On Oct 9, 4:23*pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
>> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?

>
>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.



Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. IMO, Guinness is the
worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
popularity of it puzzles me.

Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 03:40 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
>>> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?

>>
>>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
>
> Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. IMO, Guinness is the
> worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
> popularity of it puzzles me.


It's ale, not beer for one. It is a stout ale which is extremely malty,
heavily roastyed chocolate malt to be exact, and in the case of Guinness
includes a bit of spoiled ale. It's not bad at all, it is actually an
outstanding example of a stout ale. You just do not like it.

Paul



Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 03:42 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:
>
>>"Chemo" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.
>>
>>---
>>
>>Please, f**k that shit... Heine or Becks. I got standards!
>>

>
> The better the beer, the better it is warm.


Errr - no. Beers taste best at the ideal fermentation temperature for the
yeasts which were used. This brings out the delicate esthers which
contribute so much to the flavor profile. Lagers and pilseners ferment cold
while ales ferment warm. That is why ales taste best warm. By warm we are
talking 66-68F as opposed to lagers which are best around 34-36F.

Paul



Christopher Helms 10-10-2012 04:15 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 9, 9:43*pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>
> >>"Chemo" > wrote in message
> ....

>
> >>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
> >>---

>
> >>Please, f**k that shit... *Heine or Becks. *I got standards!

>
> > The better the beer, the better it is warm.

>
> Errr - no. *Beers taste best at the ideal fermentation temperature for the
> yeasts which were used. *This brings out the delicate esthers which
> contribute so much to the flavor profile. *Lagers and pilseners ferment cold
> while ales ferment warm. *That is why ales taste best warm. *By warm we are
> talking 66-68F as opposed to lagers which are best around 34-36F.
>
> Paul



IMHO, Homebrewed ale tastes best with just a bit of a chill on it,
even though it ferments around 70 degrees. Of course homebrew is not
pasteurized so there may be some different things going on there, as
opposed to the sterile, packaged stuff.

pavane[_4_] 10-10-2012 04:15 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
>>> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?

>>
>>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
>
> Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. IMO, Guinness is the
> worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
> popularity of it puzzles me.


There's Guinness and there's Guinness and there's Guinness.
If you have had it in any way other than from the Irish keg on tap,
in a place with high turnover, forget it. If you have had any of the
bottled abortions under a Guinness label, forget it. The true
Guinness is soft, very smooth, rich almost beyond compare,
no rough edges at all, just lovely mother's milk. Go on a quest,
seek it out. Whatever you have had is bad and wrong.

pavane



Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 04:37 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 9, 9:43 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>
> >>"Chemo" > wrote in message
> ...

>
> >>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
> >>---

>
> >>Please, f**k that shit... Heine or Becks. I got standards!

>
> > The better the beer, the better it is warm.

>
> Errr - no. Beers taste best at the ideal fermentation temperature for the
> yeasts which were used. This brings out the delicate esthers which
> contribute so much to the flavor profile. Lagers and pilseners ferment
> cold
> while ales ferment warm. That is why ales taste best warm. By warm we are
> talking 66-68F as opposed to lagers which are best around 34-36F.
>
> Paul



IMHO, Homebrewed ale tastes best with just a bit of a chill on it,
even though it ferments around 70 degrees. Of course homebrew is not
pasteurized so there may be some different things going on there, as
opposed to the sterile, packaged stuff.


Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the pathogens
that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella, listeria, e. coli,
cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and extreme acidity. Not only
that but beer is boiled for a long time after the wort stage. It is quite
thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.

Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.

Paul



Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 04:40 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"pavane" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
>>>> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?
>>>
>>>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>>
>>
>> Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. IMO, Guinness is the
>> worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
>> popularity of it puzzles me.

>
> There's Guinness and there's Guinness and there's Guinness.
> If you have had it in any way other than from the Irish keg on tap,
> in a place with high turnover, forget it. If you have had any of the
> bottled abortions under a Guinness label, forget it. The true
> Guinness is soft, very smooth, rich almost beyond compare,
> no rough edges at all, just lovely mother's milk. Go on a quest,
> seek it out. Whatever you have had is bad and wrong.
>
> pavane



The best thing Guinness did was to developed the nitrogen charge which kicks
in when the can is opened. The can is lined with plastic so you don't get
the can taste. It's pretty darn good.

Paul



Christopher Helms 10-10-2012 04:47 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 9, 10:37*pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Oct 9, 9:43 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Kuthe" > wrote in message

>
> .. .

>
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>
> > >>"Chemo" > wrote in message
> > ....

>
> > >>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.


Helpful person 10-10-2012 06:51 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 9, 8:12*pm, "pavane" > wrote:
>
> There's Guinness and there's Guinness and there's Guinness.
> If you have had it in any way other than from the Irish keg on tap,
> in a *place with high turnover, forget it. If you have had any of the
> bottled abortions under a Guinness label, forget it. The true
> Guinness is soft, very smooth, rich almost beyond compare,
> no rough edges at all, just lovely mother's milk. Go on a quest,
> seek it out. Whatever you have had is bad and wrong.
>
> pavane


Thank heavens there's one person who knows what Guinness should be.
When living in Great Britain in the 1970s I was a fanatic beer
drinker, sometimes traveling 50 miles to try a new real ale. There
was a lot spoken (with good reason) regarding the need for beer to
ferment in the pub and be pumped by lift pumps, not carbon dioxide.
Some of those beers are amazing.

That said, I don't care how Guinness is made, stored or pumped. It is
possibly the best beer in the world. It's the only beer whose quality
is obvious before drinking it. A perfect Guinness (draft of course)
has a tight head with tiny bubbles with no visible structure and
served at cellar temperature.

It's almost impossible to get a good Guinness in the US, it's
invariably served too cold. It can be found in Great Britain. I'm
told (as I've never been there) that what is served in Great Britain
is a poor shadow of what's available in Ireland.

http://www.richardfisher.com

Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 08:57 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 9, 10:37 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Oct 9, 9:43 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Kuthe" > wrote in message

>
> .. .

>
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>
> > >>"Chemo" > wrote in message
> > ...

>
> > >>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink
> > >>Pabst.

>
> > >>---

>
> > >>Please, f**k that shit... Heine or Becks. I got standards!

>
> > > The better the beer, the better it is warm.

>
> > Errr - no. Beers taste best at the ideal fermentation temperature for
> > the
> > yeasts which were used. This brings out the delicate esthers which
> > contribute so much to the flavor profile. Lagers and pilseners ferment
> > cold
> > while ales ferment warm. That is why ales taste best warm. By warm we
> > are
> > talking 66-68F as opposed to lagers which are best around 34-36F.

>
> > Paul

>
> IMHO, Homebrewed ale tastes best with just a bit of a chill on it,
> even though it ferments around 70 degrees. Of course homebrew is not
> pasteurized so there may be some different things going on there, as
> opposed to the sterile, packaged stuff.
>
> Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the
> pathogens
> that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella, listeria, e. coli,
> cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and extreme acidity. Not only
> that but beer is boiled for a long time after the wort stage. It is quite
> thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.
>
> Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.
>
> Paul



They don't do it to kill pathogens. Its to extend shelf life. The
yeast is very much alive and would alter the stuff in the bottle or
can over the months and months that commercial brews can sit around
between the brewery and pizza night or Sports Center or whatever. I
believe Miller Genuine Draft is cold filtered in some way to remove
the yeast, as opposed to heating the product to kill it. They also use
chemicals for head retention and clarity, because beer doesn't like to
be heated.

---------------

Yeast is not harmful in any way shape or form - in beer that is. Yes,
natural beer is full of yeast. In fact some brewers will collect the yeast
in the bottles and revive them for another batch. It is harmless and there
is no danger whatsoever.

Paul



Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 09:00 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 9, 8:12 pm, "pavane" > wrote:
>
> There's Guinness and there's Guinness and there's Guinness.
> If you have had it in any way other than from the Irish keg on tap,
> in a place with high turnover, forget it. If you have had any of the
> bottled abortions under a Guinness label, forget it. The true
> Guinness is soft, very smooth, rich almost beyond compare,
> no rough edges at all, just lovely mother's milk. Go on a quest,
> seek it out. Whatever you have had is bad and wrong.
>
> pavane


Thank heavens there's one person who knows what Guinness should be.
When living in Great Britain in the 1970s I was a fanatic beer
drinker, sometimes traveling 50 miles to try a new real ale. There
was a lot spoken (with good reason) regarding the need for beer to
ferment in the pub and be pumped by lift pumps, not carbon dioxide.
Some of those beers are amazing.

That said, I don't care how Guinness is made, stored or pumped. It is
possibly the best beer in the world. It's the only beer whose quality
is obvious before drinking it. A perfect Guinness (draft of course)
has a tight head with tiny bubbles with no visible structure and
served at cellar temperature.

It's almost impossible to get a good Guinness in the US, it's
invariably served too cold. It can be found in Great Britain. I'm
told (as I've never been there) that what is served in Great Britain
is a poor shadow of what's available in Ireland.

http://www.richardfisher.com


It is amazing ale to be sure. Makes a darn good pot roast too. Five
hundred years and counting - something has to be right.

Paul



Somebody 10-10-2012 10:21 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
"pavane" > wrote in message
...
>
> There's Guinness and there's Guinness and there's Guinness.
> If you have had it in any way other than from the Irish keg on tap,
> in a place with high turnover, forget it. If you have had any of the
> bottled abortions under a Guinness label, forget it. The true
> Guinness is soft, very smooth, rich almost beyond compare,
> no rough edges at all, just lovely mother's milk. Go on a quest,
> seek it out. Whatever you have had is bad and wrong.
>
> pavane


Roommates had a party once and leftover beer from a tapped keg. After the
second day unrefrigerated... got so sick. I didn't think beer went bad.
Does tea?




Somebody 10-10-2012 10:25 AM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...

Thank heavens there's one person who knows what Guinness should be.
When living in Great Britain in the 1970s I was a fanatic beer
drinker, sometimes traveling 50 miles to try a new real ale. There
was a lot spoken (with good reason) regarding the need for beer to
ferment in the pub and be pumped by lift pumps, not carbon dioxide.
Some of those beers are amazing.

---

I'm trying to find Henry Weinhard's pale blue ale... Had it out West. But
I don't think I can drive 4 hours to St Louis.



Somebody 10-10-2012 10:30 AM

tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad
 
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...

> Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the
> pathogens that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella,
> listeria, e. coli, cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and extreme
> acidity. Not only that but beer is boiled for a long time after the wort
> stage. It is quite thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.
>
> Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.
>
> Paul


now I am confused... Why did the keg my roommates had make us all sick?
(Guess it was not the beer but some other contamination? It was out in the
sun in Denver, mid 80s... But like you say, alcohol is supposed to be
inhospitable to little beasties-- even the ones that created it.)




James Silverton[_3_] 10-10-2012 12:53 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On 10/9/2012 10:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
>>> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?

>>
>> What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
>
> Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. IMO, Guinness is the
> worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
> popularity of it puzzles me.
>

To me, there are many types of beer, of which Stout is one. I don't like
beer of any sort served warm. It doesn't have to be near freezing, which
is the correct temperature for Pabst, Budweiser and the like. I like
Guinness Export Special at refrigerator temperature but I'm not fond of
draft Guinness even as served in Ireland; cool but not really cold.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

Bryan[_6_] 10-10-2012 01:28 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 9, 9:43*pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:30:49 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>
> >>"Chemo" > wrote in message
> ....

>
> >>What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
> >>---

>
> >>Please, f**k that shit... *Heine or Becks. *I got standards!

>
> > The better the beer, the better it is warm.

>
> Errr - no. *Beers taste best at the ideal fermentation temperature for the
> yeasts which were used. *This brings out the delicate esthers which
> contribute so much to the flavor profile. *Lagers and pilseners ferment cold
> while ales ferment warm. *That is why ales taste best warm. *By warm we are
> talking 66-68F as opposed to lagers which are best around 34-36F.


Bullshit. You can have your warm ale. Here, the cans of canoe beer
are kept at 32-33F (the basement fridge or ice chest), and the pale
ale and good tasting lagers (Negra Modelo) at about 35-36F (the
kitchen fridge). I can enjoy Wild Cherry Diet Pepsi at room
temperature too, but I'd rather have it cold. Same with beer, even
good tasting beer.

I'm envisioning a table of bearded men, all wearing tweed jackets with
elbow patches, feeling all smug that they are drinking 67 degree beer.
>
> Paul


--Bryan

Bryan[_6_] 10-10-2012 01:34 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 9, 9:15*pm, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
> >> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?

>
> >What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

>
> Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. *IMO, Guinness is the
> worst beer I ever tasted. *Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
> popularity of it puzzles me.


The Extra Stout is good. The stuff in the cans with the widget does
suck.

1 - 12 oz bottle of Guinness Extra Stout + 3 - 12 oz bottles of
Michelob Ultra = 3 pints of good tasting beer.

--Bryan

Bryan[_6_] 10-10-2012 01:53 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On Oct 10, 4:25*am, "Somebody" > wrote:
> "Helpful person" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> Thank heavens there's one person who knows what Guinness should be.
> When living in Great Britain in the 1970s I was a fanatic beer
> drinker, sometimes traveling 50 miles to try a new real ale. *There
> was a lot spoken (with good reason) regarding the need for beer to
> ferment in the pub and be pumped by lift pumps, not carbon dioxide.
> Some of those beers are amazing.
>
> ---
>
> I'm trying to find Henry Weinhard's pale blue ale... *Had it out West. *But
> I don't think I can drive 4 hours to St Louis.


Why? I drive 5 hours *from* St. Louis (Chicago) at least twice a
year.

Are you close enough to STL to buy this?
http://schlafly.com/beers/styles/dry-hopped-apa/
They sell it in these little 3.3 gallon keglets for $36, but only at
the downtown brewery.
I haven't bought a keg of any other beer in many years.

--Bryan

notbob 10-10-2012 03:17 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On 2012-10-10, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
> popularity of it puzzles me.


You jes do NOT have a taste for it. I had to acquire a taste for
ales. In short, my palate was trained to enjoy those types of beers
over a period of about a year. Now I can't enjoy a US mega-swill.
Canoe beer, I call 'em.

To bad you couldn't find a place that serves barrel draft room temp
Guinness. I once had a pint bought for me. "Uh-oh. I hate dark
beer.", I thought to myself as it was delivered to our table. To my
amazement, it was very good. The only place I know that did the is
The Shamrock Pub in SF and that was 40 yrs ago. I doubt they still do
it like that anymore. In fact, I doubt Guinness even makes beer like
that anymore.

At that time, The Shamrock was SO Irish, we were once told --politely,
but in no uncertain terms-- to leave the premises, pints unfinished.
I've no doubt they were about to convene an IRA meeting. True story.

nb


--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

notbob 10-10-2012 03:21 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
On 2012-10-10, Paul M. Cook > wrote:

> possibly the best beer in the world.


I don't know I'd go that far, but it is a GOOD beer. Of that there
can be no arguement. Heck, even a bad Guinness (canned) is a good
beer. ;)

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

Paul M. Cook 10-10-2012 04:39 PM

tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad
 

"Somebody" > wrote in message ...
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the
>> pathogens that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella,
>> listeria, e. coli, cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and
>> extreme acidity. Not only that but beer is boiled for a long time after
>> the wort stage. It is quite thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.
>>
>> Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.
>>
>> Paul

>
> now I am confused... Why did the keg my roommates had make us all sick?
> (Guess it was not the beer but some other contamination? It was out in
> the sun in Denver, mid 80s... But like you say, alcohol is supposed to be
> inhospitable to little beasties-- even the ones that created it.)



Probably the detergent used to clean it. It's been known to happen. *IF*
the beer was bad it would taste so foul and smell so bad you could not
swallow it.

Paul



Somebody 10-10-2012 06:44 PM

tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad
 
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...

> Probably the detergent used to clean it. It's been known to happen. *IF*
> the beer was bad it would taste so foul and smell so bad...


isn't that true of all beer? (St. Pauli excepted-- because the girl on the
bottle distracts me.)



Doug Freyburger 10-10-2012 09:08 PM

tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad
 
Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Somebody" > wrote:
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

>
>>> Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the
>>> pathogens that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella,
>>> listeria, e. coli, cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and
>>> extreme acidity. Not only that but beer is boiled for a long time after
>>> the wort stage. It is quite thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.

>
>>> Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.


As a home brewer I report this is incorrect. For the commercial stuff
it can't be sold if anything harmful to humans is in it, with the caveat
that different countries have different health criteria for specific
chemicals that have been known to appear in beer. But for home brewed
beer it can go bad from bacterial infection. I lost my first batch of
root beer to that long ago and have managed to avoid it since.

>> now I am confused... Why did the keg my roommates had make us all sick?
>> (Guess it was not the beer but some other contamination? It was out in
>> the sun in Denver, mid 80s... But like you say, alcohol is supposed to be
>> inhospitable to little beasties-- even the ones that created it.)

>
> Probably the detergent used to clean it. It's been known to happen. *IF*
> the beer was bad it would taste so foul and smell so bad you could not
> swallow it.


Contamination can happen near the tap. A couple of years ago I got food
poisoning from a tap ale at a local restaurant. My wife and I ate the
same meal except she had Diet Coke and I had an ale. Boom I was sick
for a couple of days.

Somebody 10-10-2012 10:18 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
"Bryan" > wrote in message
...

Bullshit. You can have your warm ale. Here, the cans of canoe beer...
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You referring to-- sex in a canoe on the lake? aka Miller Lite



Somebody 10-10-2012 10:19 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
"Bryan" > wrote in message
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Are you close enough to STL to buy this?
http://schlafly.com/beers/styles/dry-hopped-apa/
They sell it in these little 3.3 gallon keglets for $36, but only at
the downtown brewery.
I haven't bought a keg of any other beer in many years.

--Bryan

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200 miles away...



Somebody 10-10-2012 10:21 PM

tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer
 
"notbob" > wrote in message
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>
> You jes do NOT have a taste for it. I had to acquire a taste for
> ales. In short, my palate was trained to enjoy those types of beers
> over a period of about a year. Now I can't enjoy a US mega-swill.
> Canoe beer, I call 'em.


what is "canoe beer"?




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