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RichD 08-08-2012 12:36 AM

mold
 
Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.

So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?


--
Rich

Chemo[_2_] 08-08-2012 12:54 AM

mold
 
On Aug 7, 4:36*pm, RichD > wrote:
> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>
> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?
>
> --
> Rich


Ask Andy.

spamtrap1888 08-08-2012 01:26 AM

mold
 
On Aug 7, 4:36*pm, RichD > wrote:
> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>
> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?
>


Keep your bread in the freezer. Most real bread will let you pull off
a couple slices at a time.

gregz 08-08-2012 03:47 AM

mold
 
RichD > wrote:
> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>
> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?
>
>
> --
> Rich


If bread is damp in the fridge I let it breathe. It seems to last forever.
I have heard a fellow loosing his face from bread mold in his sinuses.
Never ate a lot, but never got sick. I guess opened bread could get exposed
to more toxic versions.

Greg

J. Clarke[_2_] 08-08-2012 04:46 AM

mold
 
In article <9373258c-e36a-404b-beaa-0ac3fcf54cc3
@k21g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, says...
>
> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>
> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?


Depends, are you allergic to penicillin?



Steven Bornfeld 08-08-2012 04:24 PM

mold
 
On 8/7/2012 11:46 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <9373258c-e36a-404b-beaa-0ac3fcf54cc3
> @k21g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, says...
>>
>> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
>> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>>
>> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
>> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
>> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?

>
> Depends, are you allergic to penicillin?
>
>



I would assume that would be the biggest risk--penicillin tends to
provoke severe reactions in the allergic.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Gloria P 08-08-2012 06:44 PM

mold
 
On 8/7/2012 9:46 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <9373258c-e36a-404b-beaa-0ac3fcf54cc3
> @k21g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, says...
>>
>> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
>> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>>
>> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
>> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
>> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?

>
> Depends, are you allergic to penicillin?
>
>



Allergy isn't the only danger. Some molds are carcinogenic.

gloria p

Poutnik[_3_] 08-08-2012 08:09 PM

mold
 

gloria p from
posted Wed, 08 Aug 2012 11:44:38 -0600


>
> On 8/7/2012 9:46 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article <9373258c-e36a-404b-beaa-0ac3fcf54cc3
> > @k21g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
says...
> >>
> >> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> >> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
> >>
> >> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> >> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> >> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?

> >
> > Depends, are you allergic to penicillin?
> >
> >

>
>
> Allergy isn't the only danger. Some molds are carcinogenic.
>
> gloria p


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergillus_flavus



--
Poutnik

David Bostwick 08-08-2012 08:47 PM

mold
 
RichD > wrote in news:9373258c-e36a-404b-beaa-
:

> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>
> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?
>
>
> --
> Rich
>


How did you feel after you ate it?

Salmon Egg 08-08-2012 08:52 PM

mold
 
In article >,
gloria p > wrote:

> Allergy isn't the only danger. Some molds are carcinogenic.


It seems almost all food is carcinogenic. Wheatena is essentially banned
in California because it has the same carcinogen as most baked wheat
products. Even broccoli and other brassicas. considered by many to be an
anti-cancer food, has carcinogens in it.

--

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

spamtrap1888 08-08-2012 09:17 PM

mold
 
On Aug 8, 12:52*pm, Salmon Egg > wrote:
> In article >,
> *gloria p > wrote:
>
> > Allergy isn't the only danger. *Some molds are carcinogenic.

>
> It seems almost all food is carcinogenic. Wheatena is essentially banned
> in California because it has the same carcinogen as most baked wheat
> products. Even broccoli and other brassicas. considered by many to be an
> anti-cancer food, has carcinogens in it.


Wheatena isn't banned -- they just have to disclose the amount of
carcinogen/neurotoxin it contains.

Salmon Egg 09-08-2012 04:56 AM

mold
 
In article
>,
spamtrap1888 > wrote:

> > It seems almost all food is carcinogenic. Wheatena is essentially banned
> > in California because it has the same carcinogen as most baked wheat
> > products. Even broccoli and other brassicas. considered by many to be an
> > anti-cancer food, has carcinogens in it.

>
> Wheatena isn't banned -- they just have to disclose the amount of
> carcinogen/neurotoxin it contains.


I used the word "essentially." How many bread or melba toast purveyors
tell you how much carcinogen is in their product. If you were selling a
product that has been on the market for well over a hundred years, how
would you like to print a "cigarette label" on your product. I am
willing to sign a health disclaimer when I buy Wheatena for my
consumption even though it does contain a carcinogen even if the
producer will not admit it.

For now, it seems that the manufacturer is not whipping Wheatena into
California, and a few other states.

--

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

spamtrap1888 09-08-2012 08:11 AM

mold
 
On Aug 8, 8:56*pm, Salmon Egg > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> > > It seems almost all food is carcinogenic. Wheatena is essentially banned
> > > in California because it has the same carcinogen as most baked wheat
> > > products. Even broccoli and other brassicas. considered by many to be an
> > > anti-cancer food, has carcinogens in it.

>
> > Wheatena isn't banned -- they just have to disclose the amount of
> > carcinogen/neurotoxin it contains.

>
> I used the word "essentially." How many bread or melba toast purveyors
> tell you how much carcinogen is in their product.


Actually Melba toast's levels are relatively modest. Ry-Krisp is the
one to avoid.

Wheatena is well up there, though. Other people pledged to cut down
the amount of acrylamide in their products, and many are at
undetectable levels. It has 5 to 30 times the amount of other cereals.

http://www.fda.gov/food/foodsafety/f.../ucm053549.htm

> If you were selling a
> product that has been on the market for well over a hundred years, how
> would you like to print a "cigarette label" on your product. I am
> willing to sign a health disclaimer when I buy Wheatena for my
> consumption even though it does contain a carcinogen even if the
> producer will not admit it.
>
> For now, it seems that the manufacturer is not whipping Wheatena into
> California, and a few other states.


The people voted for notification. You can't go anywhere without
seeing a Prop. 65 warning though, so I don't know what Wheatena's
problem is. Let their Calif distributor slap stickers on, if they
don't want to let other states know.

Melba's Jammin' 10-08-2012 01:18 PM

mold
 
In article
>,
RichD > wrote:

> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>
> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?
>
>
> --
> Rich


Not if you don't die within three days.
--
Barb,
http://www.barbschaller.com, as of June 6, 2012

Ophelia[_7_] 10-08-2012 01:46 PM

mold
 


"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> RichD > wrote:
>
>> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
>> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.
>>
>> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
>> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
>> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich

>
> Not if you don't die within three days.


lol
--
--

http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


RichD 13-08-2012 12:45 AM

mold
 
On Aug 8, Steven Bornfeld > wrote:
> >> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
> >> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.

>
> >> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
> >> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
> >> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?

>
> > Depends, are you allergic to penicillin?

>
> * * * * I would assume that would be the biggest risk--penicillin tends to
> provoke severe reactions in the allergic.


Is it that easy?
I knew penicillin was discovered as a mold, but I assumed
there was some processing.

Just leave some bread (probably wheat) in the fridge,
and viola, penicillin?

--
Rich

gregz 13-08-2012 01:01 AM

mold
 
RichD > wrote:
> On Aug 8, Steven Bornfeld > wrote:
>>>> Cleaning out my fridge, I sometimes find green
>>>> moldy unnamed stuff, from the Paleozoic era.

>>
>>>> So I wonder, let's say bread has a bit of mold,
>>>> not too much, maybe you pull it out in the dark,
>>>> you're drunk, you don't even notice it, Is it toxic?

>>
>>> Depends, are you allergic to penicillin?

>>
>> I would assume that would be the biggest risk--penicillin tends to
>> provoke severe reactions in the allergic.

>
> Is it that easy?
> I knew penicillin was discovered as a mold, but I assumed
> there was some processing.
>
> Just leave some bread (probably wheat) in the fridge,
> and viola, penicillin?
>
> --
> Rich


Bread mold guy had to have his face removed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHkC2JM53c

Greg

George M. Middius[_2_] 13-08-2012 01:33 AM

mold
 
RichD wrote:

> Just leave some bread (probably wheat) in the fridge,
> and viola, penicillin?


Not exactly. You really need a cello. A double bass does even better.


Brooklyn1 13-08-2012 02:14 AM

mold
 
George M. Middius wrote:
>RichD wrote:
>
>> Just leave some bread (probably wheat) in the fridge,
>> and viola, penicillin?

>
>Not exactly. You really need a cello. A double bass does even better.


George blows a mean bassoon:
http://www.graingerwindsymphony.asn....bassoonist.jpg

Gloria P 13-08-2012 02:50 AM

mold
 
On 8/12/2012 5:45 PM, RichD wrote:
> On Aug 8, Steven Bornfeld > wrote:


> I knew penicillin was discovered as a mold, but I assumed
> there was some processing.
>
> Just leave some bread (probably wheat) in the fridge,
> and viola, penicillin?
>
> --
> Rich
>



DON'T tell someone that on a public forum. It's dangerous and stupid
to think that any fungus floating in the air and landing on a slice of
bread might create penicillin. There's no single mold type any more
than there's a single species of idiot.

gloria p


Ema Nymton 14-08-2012 02:13 AM

mold
 
On 8/12/2012 8:14 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> George blows a mean bassoon:
> http://www.graingerwindsymphony.asn....bassoonist.jpg


Nothing wrong with playing bassoon, cuz I played it. I also played oboe,
clarinet and saxophone. It is embarrassing When you are the only one
playing bassoon, and the band director asks you to play a few bars, then
everyone giggles. I admit, they do sound funny.

Becca



gtr 16-08-2012 05:18 PM

mold
 
On 2012-08-14 01:13:38 +0000, Ema Nymton said:

> Nothing wrong with playing bassoon, cuz I played it. I also played
> oboe, clarinet and saxophone. It is embarrassing When you are the only
> one playing bassoon, and the band director asks you to play a few bars,
> then everyone giggles. I admit, they do sound funny.


I'm impressed. Very very impressed. I've played about everything
under the sun, all the usual strings, brass, reeds, percussion--the
works. But the only time I've messed with a double reed I met my
match. It was a suona, so not a 4k instrument like bassoon or oboe,
but hard enough to sweat a lot and work muscles where I didn't have
them.

Every try an English horn? When played well they avoid both the
humorous qualities of bassoon and the colorless aspects of oboe.


Ema Nymton 16-08-2012 06:23 PM

mold
 
On 8/16/2012 11:18 AM, gtr wrote:
> On 2012-08-14 01:13:38 +0000, Ema Nymton said:
>
>> Nothing wrong with playing bassoon, cuz I played it. I also played
>> oboe, clarinet and saxophone. It is embarrassing When you are the
>> only one playing bassoon, and the band director asks you to play a few
>> bars, then everyone giggles. I admit, they do sound funny.

>
> I'm impressed. Very very impressed. I've played about everything under
> the sun, all the usual strings, brass, reeds, percussion--the works.
> But the only time I've messed with a double reed I met my match. It was
> a suona, so not a 4k instrument like bassoon or oboe, but hard enough to
> sweat a lot and work muscles where I didn't have them.
>
> Every try an English horn? When played well they avoid both the
> humorous qualities of bassoon and the colorless aspects of oboe.



Unfortunately, I never had access to an English horn and I never played
percussion. When I moved to the oboe, the experience came as a surprise.
I assumed it would be similar to the clarinet, but the embouchure was so
different. Finding the heart of the double reed, and keeping it there,
was a challenge in the beginning.

I always wanted to play violin and cello, but I never got around to it.
Every child should learn music and have access to instruments.

Becca

Cheryl[_3_] 17-08-2012 01:33 AM

mold
 
On 8/16/2012 1:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:

> Unfortunately, I never had access to an English horn and I never played
> percussion. When I moved to the oboe, the experience came as a surprise.
> I assumed it would be similar to the clarinet, but the embouchure was so
> different. Finding the heart of the double reed, and keeping it there,
> was a challenge in the beginning.


I never tried the oboe but I played clarinet through elementary school
and jr high. I played acoustic guitar for years. I nice home made one
my dad made. His hobby was wood working and he made the most amazing
acoustic guitars.
>
> I always wanted to play violin and cello, but I never got around to it.
> Every child should learn music and have access to instruments.


Isn't that the truth! My son got interested in music from a young age
and eventually went on to be lead guitarist in a band he and his friends
formed. I would have bet they'd go far. They were amazing. The
important part was that he enjoyed it.


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