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Jean B.[_1_] 18-07-2012 04:19 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> That would be not at all. I don't like fruit.

>> Honestly, is there ANYTHING you DO like...other than beans?! You really
>> have a funky unhealthy diet, it seems, from the posts I've read on here.

>
>
> I like quite a lot of vegetables. Not going to list them all here. Mostly
> that is what I like and mostly that is what I eat. Nothing at all unhealthy
> about that. Due to various medical problems and food intolerances there is
> no point in my listing anything I might like that I can not have.
>
>> I agree with Cheri, if your family likes their melon a certain way, they
>> can darn well fix it to suit their fancy, or...go without. I was never a
>> "slave" to my family or always there at every beck 'n' call either.
>> People have to learn to be efficient and do for themselves.

>
> Okay. If that's what works for you. I don't work outside the home. So I
> do the food. Among other things. I was pretty much raised to do my own
> cooking from the age of 12 on. Actually I was cooking earlier than that.
> My mom hates to cook as does my daughter. I happen to like it. I don't
> really like cutting sticky things up though. But then that's not cooking.
> Is it?
>> I've never had trouble preparing melon, but I've never tried to remove
>> it from the rind. If it's a honeydew, or cantaloupe, I cut it in half,
>> scoop out the seeds, eat & enjoy. If it's a watermelon, we buy them
>> seedless and just cut the round slices off, and stick 'em on a plate and
>> enjoy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to prepare a melon of any
>> kind.

>
> But as I have posted several times here they are no longer recommending that
> you do that. That's a great way to get food poisoning. They now say to
> scrub the outside well and discard the rind.
>
>

How is scrubbing the rind, cutting into it (which one must do),
and eating a wedge or a half any worse than cutting into it and
then taking the innards out? That's very odd.

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 18-07-2012 04:21 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "David Harmon" > wrote in message
> m...
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:10:32 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote,
>>> That is what I did but it is sooo messy!

>> After you have done it a few times you will develop some skills and it
>> won't be so messy anymore. Unless, of course, you are a complete klutz.

>
> I have done it many times and it is always messy. I have been buying cut up
> melons for years. But with husband recently retiring, I have to try to save
> money.
>
>

Is commercially cut-up melon safer than melon that is cut up at home?

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 18-07-2012 04:30 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "LeonLeonard" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/15/2012 2:13 PM, merryb wrote:
>>> On Jul 15, 10:50 am, Andy > wrote:
>>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>>> love cantaloupe and also yogurt, but don't think I'd care for both
>>>>> together. The only "salmonella issue" I've ever heard with cantaloupe
>>>>> was when a person cut it and didn't refrigerate it, but left it out at

>> Scrub the porous skin thoroughly before cuttings to reduce that problem.
>> Last I read, it's not the flesh..... but what may have been, the
>> contaminated
>> soil that it was grown in, stuck in the pours.
>>

>
> Yes but the instructions for cutting that I read in the last few days all
> said you must remove the rind for safety's sake.
>
>

That makes no sense to me.

--
Jean B.

Julie Bove[_2_] 18-07-2012 05:25 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> My family is going through melon like crazy and they don't like to eat
>> them with the rind on. Plus I just read online that it is no longer safe
>> to serve some kinds like cantaloupe with the rind on because it traps
>> salmonella. Only smooth rinds like watermelon are safe to serve that
>> way.
>>
>> So far this week I have cut up 6 melons and I am sick of it. So sticky
>> and messy. I used to not mind it when I could just whip out my over the
>> sink cutting board and whisk the mess down the garbage disposal. Yep! I
>> put the rinds, the seeds, everything down there. You're not supposed to.
>> I know. And I can't do that here. Not only would my disposal or sink
>> give me a nice expensive clog but our waste company is urging us not to
>> put food down the sink as it creates pollution. We have to use a Biobag
>> and put with our yard waste or if we have a compost pile, put it there.
>>
>> I think I know pretty much every method for prepping a melon, from
>> balling, cutting or even doing the filleting method. Balling seems
>> perhaps a tad less messy but more time consuming and you waste some
>> melon. But it's still messy and I am getting sick of the sticky mess.
>> And I can't usually afford to buy it cut up although once in a while I do
>> find a good deal on it.
>>
>> So, in your opinion, what is the least messy method? I think watermelon
>> is the easiest melon to deal with because you don't have to scoop out the
>> seeds. But daughter is on South Beach diet and for some reason
>> watermelon is not allowed. Or perhaps there is some other sort of melon
>> that is not as messy? I have been buying cantaloupe and honeydew because
>> I have gotten the best prices on those. But if there is some sort of
>> less messy melon that I could get at say...Whole Foods or Central Market,
>> I'm there! Thanks!

> Well, you can't tackle a melon without going through the rind. I am
> thinking, that being the case, that eating a half or a wedge will entail
> less contact with the rind and will be less messy to boot.


I have ordered a cutter. You simply cut it in half then somehow twist this
in (after you have removed the seeds) and it cuts wedges plus removes the
rind. I would report back as to how well it works or doesn't work but I
know I would get nothing but grief about that. So I probably won't.

In the meantime, I bought two fruit bowls from Costco. Bought them on
Sunday and one is already gone. Am considering a Sam's membership. Their
fruit is cheaper still but... They are clear into Seattle so not sure it
would be worthwhile if I have to drive that far.



Julie Bove[_2_] 18-07-2012 05:26 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>> you have these issues

>>
>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.

> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
> afterwards, if you're concerned.


They just won't eat it that way. I have tried.



Julie Bove[_2_] 18-07-2012 05:28 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would be not at all. I don't like fruit.
>>> Honestly, is there ANYTHING you DO like...other than beans?! You really
>>> have a funky unhealthy diet, it seems, from the posts I've read on here.

>>
>>
>> I like quite a lot of vegetables. Not going to list them all here.
>> Mostly that is what I like and mostly that is what I eat. Nothing at all
>> unhealthy about that. Due to various medical problems and food
>> intolerances there is no point in my listing anything I might like that I
>> can not have.
>>
>>> I agree with Cheri, if your family likes their melon a certain way, they
>>> can darn well fix it to suit their fancy, or...go without. I was never a
>>> "slave" to my family or always there at every beck 'n' call either.
>>> People have to learn to be efficient and do for themselves.

>>
>> Okay. If that's what works for you. I don't work outside the home. So
>> I do the food. Among other things. I was pretty much raised to do my
>> own cooking from the age of 12 on. Actually I was cooking earlier than
>> that. My mom hates to cook as does my daughter. I happen to like it. I
>> don't really like cutting sticky things up though. But then that's not
>> cooking. Is it?
>>> I've never had trouble preparing melon, but I've never tried to remove
>>> it from the rind. If it's a honeydew, or cantaloupe, I cut it in half,
>>> scoop out the seeds, eat & enjoy. If it's a watermelon, we buy them
>>> seedless and just cut the round slices off, and stick 'em on a plate and
>>> enjoy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to prepare a melon of any
>>> kind.

>>
>> But as I have posted several times here they are no longer recommending
>> that you do that. That's a great way to get food poisoning. They now
>> say to scrub the outside well and discard the rind.

> How is scrubbing the rind, cutting into it (which one must do), and eating
> a wedge or a half any worse than cutting into it and then taking the
> innards out? That's very odd.


I don't know. Perhaps if it sits with the rind on after being cut into then
whatever the bad stuff is sticks in the rind? All I know is that every
source I looked at about cutting it up for serving said that they now
recommend that the rind be removed.

I ate plenty of half cantaloupes in my lifetime. Way back when I used to
occasionally eat fruit I would just cut it in half, take the seeds out and
eat it. Sometimes I will fill it with cottage cheese or sherbet and maybe
some berries. My family used to eat it that way. But I think they got
spoiled after I bought the cut up fruit for them and now they just want
that.



Julie Bove[_2_] 18-07-2012 05:29 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "David Harmon" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:10:32 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote,
>>>> That is what I did but it is sooo messy!
>>> After you have done it a few times you will develop some skills and it
>>> won't be so messy anymore. Unless, of course, you are a complete klutz.

>>
>> I have done it many times and it is always messy. I have been buying cut
>> up melons for years. But with husband recently retiring, I have to try
>> to save money.

> Is commercially cut-up melon safer than melon that is cut up at home?


That I do not know.



MaryL[_2_] 18-07-2012 10:42 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 


"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>> you have these issues

>>
>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.

> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
> afterwards, if you're concerned.


They just won't eat it that way. I have tried.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Then let them go without. It is "beyond ridiculous" to think that you
should cater to their every whim. It's one thing to cook a meal, quite
another to have two people who think they cannot even cut cantaloupe from a
wedge that has been cut from a melon.

MaryL


Brooklyn1 18-07-2012 03:50 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>>> you have these issues
>>>
>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.

>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
>> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
>> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
>> afterwards, if you're concerned.

>
>They just won't eat it that way.


Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL

Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?




Jo Anne[_2_] 18-07-2012 05:59 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:30:12 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>> "LeonLeonard" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/15/2012 2:13 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>> On Jul 15, 10:50 am, Andy > wrote:
>>>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>>>> love cantaloupe and also yogurt, but don't think I'd care for both
>>>>>> together. The only "salmonella issue" I've ever heard with cantaloupe
>>>>>> was when a person cut it and didn't refrigerate it, but left it out at
>>> Scrub the porous skin thoroughly before cuttings to reduce that problem.
>>> Last I read, it's not the flesh..... but what may have been, the
>>> contaminated
>>> soil that it was grown in, stuck in the pours.
>>>

>>
>> Yes but the instructions for cutting that I read in the last few days all
>> said you must remove the rind for safety's sake.
>>
>>

>That makes no sense to me.


Me neither. I would imagine that if the rind of the melon is
contaminated with salmonella or some other kind of bacteria, as soon
as you cut into it the bacteria would be transferred to the flesh. So
you end up ingesting it anyway.

Just wash the melons, cut them in wedges, and be done with it.

Jo Anne

Julie Bove[_2_] 18-07-2012 11:14 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jo Anne" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:30:12 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "LeonLeonard" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/15/2012 2:13 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 15, 10:50 am, Andy > wrote:
>>>>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>>>>> love cantaloupe and also yogurt, but don't think I'd care for both
>>>>>>> together. The only "salmonella issue" I've ever heard with
>>>>>>> cantaloupe
>>>>>>> was when a person cut it and didn't refrigerate it, but left it out
>>>>>>> at
>>>> Scrub the porous skin thoroughly before cuttings to reduce that
>>>> problem.
>>>> Last I read, it's not the flesh..... but what may have been, the
>>>> contaminated
>>>> soil that it was grown in, stuck in the pours.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes but the instructions for cutting that I read in the last few days
>>> all
>>> said you must remove the rind for safety's sake.
>>>
>>>

>>That makes no sense to me.

>
> Me neither. I would imagine that if the rind of the melon is
> contaminated with salmonella or some other kind of bacteria, as soon
> as you cut into it the bacteria would be transferred to the flesh. So
> you end up ingesting it anyway.
>
> Just wash the melons, cut them in wedges, and be done with it.
>
> Jo Anne


This says to remove the rind:

http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8095.pdf

"Always peel cover and refrigerate cut cantaloupe."



Janet Bostwick 18-07-2012 11:24 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:14:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
>
>This says to remove the rind:
>
>http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8095.pdf
>
>"Always peel cover and refrigerate cut cantaloupe."
>

thanks for the article
Janet US

Jean B.[_1_] 19-07-2012 03:58 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My family is going through melon like crazy and they don't like to eat
>>> them with the rind on. Plus I just read online that it is no longer safe
>>> to serve some kinds like cantaloupe with the rind on because it traps
>>> salmonella. Only smooth rinds like watermelon are safe to serve that
>>> way.
>>>
>>> So far this week I have cut up 6 melons and I am sick of it. So sticky
>>> and messy. I used to not mind it when I could just whip out my over the
>>> sink cutting board and whisk the mess down the garbage disposal. Yep! I
>>> put the rinds, the seeds, everything down there. You're not supposed to.
>>> I know. And I can't do that here. Not only would my disposal or sink
>>> give me a nice expensive clog but our waste company is urging us not to
>>> put food down the sink as it creates pollution. We have to use a Biobag
>>> and put with our yard waste or if we have a compost pile, put it there.
>>>
>>> I think I know pretty much every method for prepping a melon, from
>>> balling, cutting or even doing the filleting method. Balling seems
>>> perhaps a tad less messy but more time consuming and you waste some
>>> melon. But it's still messy and I am getting sick of the sticky mess.
>>> And I can't usually afford to buy it cut up although once in a while I do
>>> find a good deal on it.
>>>
>>> So, in your opinion, what is the least messy method? I think watermelon
>>> is the easiest melon to deal with because you don't have to scoop out the
>>> seeds. But daughter is on South Beach diet and for some reason
>>> watermelon is not allowed. Or perhaps there is some other sort of melon
>>> that is not as messy? I have been buying cantaloupe and honeydew because
>>> I have gotten the best prices on those. But if there is some sort of
>>> less messy melon that I could get at say...Whole Foods or Central Market,
>>> I'm there! Thanks!

>> Well, you can't tackle a melon without going through the rind. I am
>> thinking, that being the case, that eating a half or a wedge will entail
>> less contact with the rind and will be less messy to boot.

>
> I have ordered a cutter. You simply cut it in half then somehow twist this
> in (after you have removed the seeds) and it cuts wedges plus removes the
> rind. I would report back as to how well it works or doesn't work but I
> know I would get nothing but grief about that. So I probably won't.
>
> In the meantime, I bought two fruit bowls from Costco. Bought them on
> Sunday and one is already gone. Am considering a Sam's membership. Their
> fruit is cheaper still but... They are clear into Seattle so not sure it
> would be worthwhile if I have to drive that far.
>

Do your daughter and husband refuse to scoop melon from cut halves?

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 19-07-2012 03:58 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>>> you have these issues
>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.

>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
>> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
>> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
>> afterwards, if you're concerned.

>
> They just won't eat it that way. I have tried.
>
>

Ah. I see. That is unfortunate.

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 19-07-2012 04:01 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>>>> you have these issues
>>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>>>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>>>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>>>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.
>>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
>>> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
>>> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
>>> afterwards, if you're concerned.

>> They just won't eat it that way.

>
> Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL
>
> Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
> least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
> salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
> especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
> I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?
>

The prehacked fruits end up losing much of their individual
character, don't they? I agree on that. I also was brought up
eating a wedge or a half a cantaloupe, so cutting it up further
seemed unnecessary to me.

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 19-07-2012 04:04 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jo Anne" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:30:12 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "LeonLeonard" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/15/2012 2:13 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 10:50 am, Andy > wrote:
>>>>>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>>>>>> love cantaloupe and also yogurt, but don't think I'd care for both
>>>>>>>> together. The only "salmonella issue" I've ever heard with
>>>>>>>> cantaloupe
>>>>>>>> was when a person cut it and didn't refrigerate it, but left it out
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>> Scrub the porous skin thoroughly before cuttings to reduce that
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> Last I read, it's not the flesh..... but what may have been, the
>>>>> contaminated
>>>>> soil that it was grown in, stuck in the pours.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes but the instructions for cutting that I read in the last few days
>>>> all
>>>> said you must remove the rind for safety's sake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That makes no sense to me.

>> Me neither. I would imagine that if the rind of the melon is
>> contaminated with salmonella or some other kind of bacteria, as soon
>> as you cut into it the bacteria would be transferred to the flesh. So
>> you end up ingesting it anyway.
>>
>> Just wash the melons, cut them in wedges, and be done with it.
>>
>> Jo Anne

>
> This says to remove the rind:
>
> http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8095.pdf
>
> "Always peel cover and refrigerate cut cantaloupe."
>
>

You are supposed to refrigerate the CUT cantaloupe? That sounds
like you are mainly increasing the incubation time for whatever
pathogens that might be there.

--
Jean B.

Julie Bove[_2_] 19-07-2012 04:16 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My family is going through melon like crazy and they don't like to eat
>>>> them with the rind on. Plus I just read online that it is no longer
>>>> safe to serve some kinds like cantaloupe with the rind on because it
>>>> traps salmonella. Only smooth rinds like watermelon are safe to serve
>>>> that way.
>>>>
>>>> So far this week I have cut up 6 melons and I am sick of it. So sticky
>>>> and messy. I used to not mind it when I could just whip out my over
>>>> the sink cutting board and whisk the mess down the garbage disposal.
>>>> Yep! I put the rinds, the seeds, everything down there. You're not
>>>> supposed to. I know. And I can't do that here. Not only would my
>>>> disposal or sink give me a nice expensive clog but our waste company is
>>>> urging us not to put food down the sink as it creates pollution. We
>>>> have to use a Biobag and put with our yard waste or if we have a
>>>> compost pile, put it there.
>>>>
>>>> I think I know pretty much every method for prepping a melon, from
>>>> balling, cutting or even doing the filleting method. Balling seems
>>>> perhaps a tad less messy but more time consuming and you waste some
>>>> melon. But it's still messy and I am getting sick of the sticky mess.
>>>> And I can't usually afford to buy it cut up although once in a while I
>>>> do find a good deal on it.
>>>>
>>>> So, in your opinion, what is the least messy method? I think
>>>> watermelon is the easiest melon to deal with because you don't have to
>>>> scoop out the seeds. But daughter is on South Beach diet and for some
>>>> reason watermelon is not allowed. Or perhaps there is some other sort
>>>> of melon that is not as messy? I have been buying cantaloupe and
>>>> honeydew because I have gotten the best prices on those. But if there
>>>> is some sort of less messy melon that I could get at say...Whole Foods
>>>> or Central Market, I'm there! Thanks!
>>> Well, you can't tackle a melon without going through the rind. I am
>>> thinking, that being the case, that eating a half or a wedge will entail
>>> less contact with the rind and will be less messy to boot.

>>
>> I have ordered a cutter. You simply cut it in half then somehow twist
>> this in (after you have removed the seeds) and it cuts wedges plus
>> removes the rind. I would report back as to how well it works or doesn't
>> work but I know I would get nothing but grief about that. So I probably
>> won't.
>>
>> In the meantime, I bought two fruit bowls from Costco. Bought them on
>> Sunday and one is already gone. Am considering a Sam's membership.
>> Their fruit is cheaper still but... They are clear into Seattle so not
>> sure it would be worthwhile if I have to drive that far.

> Do your daughter and husband refuse to scoop melon from cut halves?


Yes because then they would have to deal with disposing of the rind which
because of the way we have to do things here now is a PITA. Just easier all
the way around to get it all done at once. No sense dirtying two Biobags.
I'd rather just put it all in at once.

This is all the more reason for me to be super careful with food and make
only enough or carefully planned leftovers. Disposing of food is a pain!



Julie Bove[_2_] 19-07-2012 04:17 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Jo Anne" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:30:12 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "LeonLeonard" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 7/15/2012 2:13 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 10:50 am, Andy > wrote:
>>>>>>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> love cantaloupe and also yogurt, but don't think I'd care for
>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>> together. The only "salmonella issue" I've ever heard with
>>>>>>>>> cantaloupe
>>>>>>>>> was when a person cut it and didn't refrigerate it, but left it
>>>>>>>>> out at
>>>>>> Scrub the porous skin thoroughly before cuttings to reduce that
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> Last I read, it's not the flesh..... but what may have been, the
>>>>>> contaminated
>>>>>> soil that it was grown in, stuck in the pours.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes but the instructions for cutting that I read in the last few days
>>>>> all
>>>>> said you must remove the rind for safety's sake.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That makes no sense to me.
>>> Me neither. I would imagine that if the rind of the melon is
>>> contaminated with salmonella or some other kind of bacteria, as soon
>>> as you cut into it the bacteria would be transferred to the flesh. So
>>> you end up ingesting it anyway.
>>>
>>> Just wash the melons, cut them in wedges, and be done with it.
>>>
>>> Jo Anne

>>
>> This says to remove the rind:
>>
>> http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8095.pdf
>>
>> "Always peel cover and refrigerate cut cantaloupe."

> You are supposed to refrigerate the CUT cantaloupe? That sounds like you
> are mainly increasing the incubation time for whatever pathogens that
> might be there.


Dunno.



Jean B.[_1_] 19-07-2012 04:27 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Jo Anne" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:30:12 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> "LeonLeonard" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 7/15/2012 2:13 PM, merryb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 10:50 am, Andy > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> love cantaloupe and also yogurt, but don't think I'd care for
>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>> together. The only "salmonella issue" I've ever heard with
>>>>>>>>>> cantaloupe
>>>>>>>>>> was when a person cut it and didn't refrigerate it, but left it
>>>>>>>>>> out at
>>>>>>> Scrub the porous skin thoroughly before cuttings to reduce that
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> Last I read, it's not the flesh..... but what may have been, the
>>>>>>> contaminated
>>>>>>> soil that it was grown in, stuck in the pours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes but the instructions for cutting that I read in the last few days
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> said you must remove the rind for safety's sake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> That makes no sense to me.
>>>> Me neither. I would imagine that if the rind of the melon is
>>>> contaminated with salmonella or some other kind of bacteria, as soon
>>>> as you cut into it the bacteria would be transferred to the flesh. So
>>>> you end up ingesting it anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Just wash the melons, cut them in wedges, and be done with it.
>>>>
>>>> Jo Anne
>>> This says to remove the rind:
>>>
>>> http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8095.pdf
>>>
>>> "Always peel cover and refrigerate cut cantaloupe."

>> You are supposed to refrigerate the CUT cantaloupe? That sounds like you
>> are mainly increasing the incubation time for whatever pathogens that
>> might be there.

>
> Dunno.
>
>

Nor do I. Interesting topic though.

--
Jean B.

Dave Smith[_1_] 19-07-2012 03:42 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
On 18/07/2012 11:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Yes because then they would have to deal with disposing of the rind which
> because of the way we have to do things here now is a PITA. Just easier all
> the way around to get it all done at once. No sense dirtying two Biobags.
> I'd rather just put it all in at once.
>
> This is all the more reason for me to be super careful with food and make
> only enough or carefully planned leftovers. Disposing of food is a pain!
>
>



Fer crissakes.... do you live to whine for help and then make up an
endless sea of excuses for not being able to take the advice that was
earnestly give? How ****ing pathetic is your life? You have a kid who
acts so badly in restaurants that she embarrasses you. You have a
husband who grabs meals on the way home. Shit, you can't even feed
those two idiots fresh melon without running into one problem after
another.

Brooklyn1 19-07-2012 03:45 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
"Jean B." wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>>>>> you have these issues
>>>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>>>>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>>>>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>>>>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.
>>>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
>>>> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
>>>> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
>>>> afterwards, if you're concerned.
>>> They just won't eat it that way.

>>
>> Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL
>>
>> Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
>> least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
>> salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
>> especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
>> I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?
>>

>The prehacked fruits end up losing much of their individual
>character, don't they? I agree on that. I also was brought up
>eating a wedge or a half a cantaloupe, so cutting it up further
>seemed unnecessary to me.


Do you know how you can tell you're at a *** black folk's picnic,
dem's be eatin' cantylupe! LOL

Any restaurant I've ever patronized, from 5 Star to greazy spoon,
serves cantaloupe halves in their rind... it's totally left to the
diner to filet them as they will. Most folks, at least those of the
elevated classes, scoop and eat with a spoon... lesser classes tend to
slice into wedges and dive in face first, same as they eat huge wedges
of wartymelon! hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGWIsvcL6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJIvBlBIAY
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/03...on-stereotype/

Julie Bove[_2_] 19-07-2012 09:56 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
. com...
> On 18/07/2012 11:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Yes because then they would have to deal with disposing of the rind which
>> because of the way we have to do things here now is a PITA. Just easier
>> all
>> the way around to get it all done at once. No sense dirtying two
>> Biobags.
>> I'd rather just put it all in at once.
>>
>> This is all the more reason for me to be super careful with food and make
>> only enough or carefully planned leftovers. Disposing of food is a pain!
>>
>>

>
>
> Fer crissakes.... do you live to whine for help and then make up an
> endless sea of excuses for not being able to take the advice that was
> earnestly give? How ****ing pathetic is your life? You have a kid who
> acts so badly in restaurants that she embarrasses you. You have a husband
> who grabs meals on the way home. Shit, you can't even feed those two
> idiots fresh melon without running into one problem after another.


I mentioned an incident...how many years ago now? I believe it was two.
And you're still going on with it. Thankfully we don't live in groundhog
day here.



Julie Bove[_2_] 19-07-2012 09:57 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> "Jean B." wrote:
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> you have these issues
>>>>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>>>>>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my
>>>>>> family
>>>>>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.
>>>>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still
>>>>> need to
>>>>> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a
>>>>> plate,
>>>>> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands
>>>>> well
>>>>> afterwards, if you're concerned.
>>>> They just won't eat it that way.
>>>
>>> Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL
>>>
>>> Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
>>> least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
>>> salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
>>> especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
>>> I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?
>>>

>>The prehacked fruits end up losing much of their individual
>>character, don't they? I agree on that. I also was brought up
>>eating a wedge or a half a cantaloupe, so cutting it up further
>>seemed unnecessary to me.

>
> Do you know how you can tell you're at a *** black folk's picnic,
> dem's be eatin' cantylupe! LOL
>
> Any restaurant I've ever patronized, from 5 Star to greazy spoon,
> serves cantaloupe halves in their rind... it's totally left to the
> diner to filet them as they will. Most folks, at least those of the
> elevated classes, scoop and eat with a spoon... lesser classes tend to
> slice into wedges and dive in face first, same as they eat huge wedges
> of wartymelon! hehe
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGWIsvcL6s
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJIvBlBIAY
> http://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/03...on-stereotype/


Here it is cut up, rind removed.



Dave Smith[_1_] 20-07-2012 03:05 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
On 19/07/2012 4:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> Fer crissakes.... do you live to whine for help and then make up an
>> endless sea of excuses for not being able to take the advice that was
>> earnestly give? How ****ing pathetic is your life? You have a kid who
>> acts so badly in restaurants that she embarrasses you. You have a husband
>> who grabs meals on the way home. Shit, you can't even feed those two
>> idiots fresh melon without running into one problem after another.

>
> I mentioned an incident...how many years ago now? I believe it was two.
> And you're still going on with it. Thankfully we don't live in groundhog
> day here.
>



Those are just two of the endless tales of the dysfunction in your
family. I won't bother looking for any more. I think that everyone here
has already had too much information.



Jean B.[_1_] 20-07-2012 04:06 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> My family is going through melon like crazy and they don't like to eat
>>>>> them with the rind on. Plus I just read online that it is no longer
>>>>> safe to serve some kinds like cantaloupe with the rind on because it
>>>>> traps salmonella. Only smooth rinds like watermelon are safe to serve
>>>>> that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far this week I have cut up 6 melons and I am sick of it. So sticky
>>>>> and messy. I used to not mind it when I could just whip out my over
>>>>> the sink cutting board and whisk the mess down the garbage disposal.
>>>>> Yep! I put the rinds, the seeds, everything down there. You're not
>>>>> supposed to. I know. And I can't do that here. Not only would my
>>>>> disposal or sink give me a nice expensive clog but our waste company is
>>>>> urging us not to put food down the sink as it creates pollution. We
>>>>> have to use a Biobag and put with our yard waste or if we have a
>>>>> compost pile, put it there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I know pretty much every method for prepping a melon, from
>>>>> balling, cutting or even doing the filleting method. Balling seems
>>>>> perhaps a tad less messy but more time consuming and you waste some
>>>>> melon. But it's still messy and I am getting sick of the sticky mess.
>>>>> And I can't usually afford to buy it cut up although once in a while I
>>>>> do find a good deal on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, in your opinion, what is the least messy method? I think
>>>>> watermelon is the easiest melon to deal with because you don't have to
>>>>> scoop out the seeds. But daughter is on South Beach diet and for some
>>>>> reason watermelon is not allowed. Or perhaps there is some other sort
>>>>> of melon that is not as messy? I have been buying cantaloupe and
>>>>> honeydew because I have gotten the best prices on those. But if there
>>>>> is some sort of less messy melon that I could get at say...Whole Foods
>>>>> or Central Market, I'm there! Thanks!
>>>> Well, you can't tackle a melon without going through the rind. I am
>>>> thinking, that being the case, that eating a half or a wedge will entail
>>>> less contact with the rind and will be less messy to boot.
>>> I have ordered a cutter. You simply cut it in half then somehow twist
>>> this in (after you have removed the seeds) and it cuts wedges plus
>>> removes the rind. I would report back as to how well it works or doesn't
>>> work but I know I would get nothing but grief about that. So I probably
>>> won't.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, I bought two fruit bowls from Costco. Bought them on
>>> Sunday and one is already gone. Am considering a Sam's membership.
>>> Their fruit is cheaper still but... They are clear into Seattle so not
>>> sure it would be worthwhile if I have to drive that far.

>> Do your daughter and husband refuse to scoop melon from cut halves?

>
> Yes because then they would have to deal with disposing of the rind which
> because of the way we have to do things here now is a PITA. Just easier all
> the way around to get it all done at once. No sense dirtying two Biobags.
> I'd rather just put it all in at once.
>
> This is all the more reason for me to be super careful with food and make
> only enough or carefully planned leftovers. Disposing of food is a pain!
>
>

Is there a link to this Biobag system? I am not sure what it is.

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 20-07-2012 04:10 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Jean B." wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand why
>>>>>>> you have these issues
>>>>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it is no
>>>>>> longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy rind. I
>>>>>> used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve. But my family
>>>>>> doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut up and no rind.
>>>>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still need to
>>>>> cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut piece on a plate,
>>>>> eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind, and wash your hands well
>>>>> afterwards, if you're concerned.
>>>> They just won't eat it that way.
>>> Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL
>>>
>>> Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
>>> least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
>>> salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
>>> especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
>>> I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?
>>>

>> The prehacked fruits end up losing much of their individual
>> character, don't they? I agree on that. I also was brought up
>> eating a wedge or a half a cantaloupe, so cutting it up further
>> seemed unnecessary to me.

>
> Do you know how you can tell you're at a *** black folk's picnic,
> dem's be eatin' cantylupe! LOL
>
> Any restaurant I've ever patronized, from 5 Star to greazy spoon,
> serves cantaloupe halves in their rind... it's totally left to the
> diner to filet them as they will. Most folks, at least those of the
> elevated classes, scoop and eat with a spoon... lesser classes tend to
> slice into wedges and dive in face first, same as they eat huge wedges
> of wartymelon! hehe
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGWIsvcL6s
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJIvBlBIAY
> http://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/03...on-stereotype/


I've never seen that "diving" in person. There sure are enough
old depictions of that stereotype though, one of which is on the
top of a stack of booklets on my table. For that matter, a lot of
Victorian trade cards had those stereotypical images.

I haven;t been going to restaurants much, alas, and tend to go to
ethnic ones when I do go, so I don't run into much melon of any kind.

--
Jean B.

Julie Bove[_2_] 20-07-2012 04:42 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> My family is going through melon like crazy and they don't like to
>>>>>> eat them with the rind on. Plus I just read online that it is no
>>>>>> longer safe to serve some kinds like cantaloupe with the rind on
>>>>>> because it traps salmonella. Only smooth rinds like watermelon are
>>>>>> safe to serve that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far this week I have cut up 6 melons and I am sick of it. So
>>>>>> sticky and messy. I used to not mind it when I could just whip out
>>>>>> my over the sink cutting board and whisk the mess down the garbage
>>>>>> disposal. Yep! I put the rinds, the seeds, everything down there.
>>>>>> You're not supposed to. I know. And I can't do that here. Not only
>>>>>> would my disposal or sink give me a nice expensive clog but our waste
>>>>>> company is urging us not to put food down the sink as it creates
>>>>>> pollution. We have to use a Biobag and put with our yard waste or if
>>>>>> we have a compost pile, put it there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I know pretty much every method for prepping a melon, from
>>>>>> balling, cutting or even doing the filleting method. Balling seems
>>>>>> perhaps a tad less messy but more time consuming and you waste some
>>>>>> melon. But it's still messy and I am getting sick of the sticky
>>>>>> mess. And I can't usually afford to buy it cut up although once in a
>>>>>> while I do find a good deal on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in your opinion, what is the least messy method? I think
>>>>>> watermelon is the easiest melon to deal with because you don't have
>>>>>> to scoop out the seeds. But daughter is on South Beach diet and for
>>>>>> some reason watermelon is not allowed. Or perhaps there is some
>>>>>> other sort of melon that is not as messy? I have been buying
>>>>>> cantaloupe and honeydew because I have gotten the best prices on
>>>>>> those. But if there is some sort of less messy melon that I could
>>>>>> get at say...Whole Foods or Central Market, I'm there! Thanks!
>>>>> Well, you can't tackle a melon without going through the rind. I am
>>>>> thinking, that being the case, that eating a half or a wedge will
>>>>> entail less contact with the rind and will be less messy to boot.
>>>> I have ordered a cutter. You simply cut it in half then somehow twist
>>>> this in (after you have removed the seeds) and it cuts wedges plus
>>>> removes the rind. I would report back as to how well it works or
>>>> doesn't work but I know I would get nothing but grief about that. So I
>>>> probably won't.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, I bought two fruit bowls from Costco. Bought them on
>>>> Sunday and one is already gone. Am considering a Sam's membership.
>>>> Their fruit is cheaper still but... They are clear into Seattle so not
>>>> sure it would be worthwhile if I have to drive that far.
>>> Do your daughter and husband refuse to scoop melon from cut halves?

>>
>> Yes because then they would have to deal with disposing of the rind which
>> because of the way we have to do things here now is a PITA. Just easier
>> all the way around to get it all done at once. No sense dirtying two
>> Biobags. I'd rather just put it all in at once.
>>
>> This is all the more reason for me to be super careful with food and make
>> only enough or carefully planned leftovers. Disposing of food is a pain!

> Is there a link to this Biobag system? I am not sure what it is.


That's actually just the brand of the bags. There are others but Costco
sells these and I can get the best price there. Since all food scraps must
go in them, we use a lot of them.

http://www.biobagusa.com/

I buy the little food bags and also the tall kitchen bags. I often need the
tall ones if I am cleaning out the fridge or cupboards and find old things
like cereal and chips. The little foods bags don't hold much. You also
have to be very careful with them. Because they are designed to break down
when they get wet, they will almost immediately start to break down when you
do put wet foods in them, like melon. So I have learned with things like
that it is best to just run them out to the yard waste right away. I have
gotten a phone call when I was holding a bag and just in that length of time
the bag will start to dissolve.

I can't imagine using the lawn and leaf bags. Unless perhaps they are made
thicker. I have bought other brands that are thicker. This is the brand
that Waste Management recommends.

They do sell a composting system. My friend uses the kitchen one they show
on the website. She has no problems with it. I bought a different system
that looks like a little metal garbage can with a filter in the lid. It was
horrible. Drew fruit flies like mad, even when empty. I got rid of it and
now just use a little vanity type wastebasket. I simply tie my bags shut
and try to empty it daily. If I am doing something like prepping veggies
for a big pout of soup or stew, I can easily fill the can.



Julie Bove[_2_] 20-07-2012 04:47 AM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>>>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand
>>>>>>>> why you have these issues
>>>>>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it
>>>>>>> is no longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy
>>>>>>> rind. I used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve.
>>>>>>> But my family doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut
>>>>>>> up and no rind.
>>>>>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still
>>>>>> need to cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut
>>>>>> piece on a plate, eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind,
>>>>>> and wash your hands well afterwards, if you're concerned.
>>>>> They just won't eat it that way.
>>>> Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL
>>>>
>>>> Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
>>>> least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
>>>> salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
>>>> especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
>>>> I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?
>>>>
>>> The prehacked fruits end up losing much of their individual character,
>>> don't they? I agree on that. I also was brought up eating a wedge or a
>>> half a cantaloupe, so cutting it up further seemed unnecessary to me.

>>
>> Do you know how you can tell you're at a *** black folk's picnic,
>> dem's be eatin' cantylupe! LOL
>>
>> Any restaurant I've ever patronized, from 5 Star to greazy spoon,
>> serves cantaloupe halves in their rind... it's totally left to the
>> diner to filet them as they will. Most folks, at least those of the
>> elevated classes, scoop and eat with a spoon... lesser classes tend to
>> slice into wedges and dive in face first, same as they eat huge wedges
>> of wartymelon! hehe
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGWIsvcL6s
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJIvBlBIAY
>> http://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/03...on-stereotype/

>
> I've never seen that "diving" in person. There sure are enough old
> depictions of that stereotype though, one of which is on the top of a
> stack of booklets on my table. For that matter, a lot of Victorian trade
> cards had those stereotypical images.
>
> I haven;t been going to restaurants much, alas, and tend to go to ethnic
> ones when I do go, so I don't run into much melon of any kind.


My grandparents always served watermelon at family picnics even though they
hated the stuff. In those days it was not the seedless and they could be
huge. Their only rule was that it had to be eaten outside. I was with them
in my dislike for the stuff but my mom just loves it and always insisted
that I try it again and again. I just never developed a like for the
texture although the flavor is fine. We have old home movies where the kids
were eating straight from the wedge. They would then spit the seeds on the
ground. When my dad would show the movies, he would always play them
backwards so it looked like the kids were sucking the seeds up off of the
ground and depositing the melon back onto the rind with their lips.

I never understood why people let their kids eat in a messy fashion like
that. Sure when they are really young and just learning to use a fork and
spoon or even their fingers, things will be messy. But after that? I see
no excuse. I didn't let my daughter have ice cream often unless we were at
home she could only have it in a dish and I would fill the spoon for her
until she learned how much to put in there. If she had it in a cone at
home, I only put a tiny amount in the cone. I hate it when parents give
their kids huge cones of ice cream and then let them get it all over their
faces and drip down their hands.



Brooklyn1 20-07-2012 08:31 PM

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"Jean B." wrote:
>
>Is there a link to this Biobag system? I am not sure what it is.


Sounds like something for preventing pregnancy.

Jean B.[_1_] 02-08-2012 11:26 PM

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Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> My family is going through melon like crazy and they don't like to
>>>>>>> eat them with the rind on. Plus I just read online that it is no
>>>>>>> longer safe to serve some kinds like cantaloupe with the rind on
>>>>>>> because it traps salmonella. Only smooth rinds like watermelon are
>>>>>>> safe to serve that way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far this week I have cut up 6 melons and I am sick of it. So
>>>>>>> sticky and messy. I used to not mind it when I could just whip out
>>>>>>> my over the sink cutting board and whisk the mess down the garbage
>>>>>>> disposal. Yep! I put the rinds, the seeds, everything down there.
>>>>>>> You're not supposed to. I know. And I can't do that here. Not only
>>>>>>> would my disposal or sink give me a nice expensive clog but our waste
>>>>>>> company is urging us not to put food down the sink as it creates
>>>>>>> pollution. We have to use a Biobag and put with our yard waste or if
>>>>>>> we have a compost pile, put it there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I know pretty much every method for prepping a melon, from
>>>>>>> balling, cutting or even doing the filleting method. Balling seems
>>>>>>> perhaps a tad less messy but more time consuming and you waste some
>>>>>>> melon. But it's still messy and I am getting sick of the sticky
>>>>>>> mess. And I can't usually afford to buy it cut up although once in a
>>>>>>> while I do find a good deal on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, in your opinion, what is the least messy method? I think
>>>>>>> watermelon is the easiest melon to deal with because you don't have
>>>>>>> to scoop out the seeds. But daughter is on South Beach diet and for
>>>>>>> some reason watermelon is not allowed. Or perhaps there is some
>>>>>>> other sort of melon that is not as messy? I have been buying
>>>>>>> cantaloupe and honeydew because I have gotten the best prices on
>>>>>>> those. But if there is some sort of less messy melon that I could
>>>>>>> get at say...Whole Foods or Central Market, I'm there! Thanks!
>>>>>> Well, you can't tackle a melon without going through the rind. I am
>>>>>> thinking, that being the case, that eating a half or a wedge will
>>>>>> entail less contact with the rind and will be less messy to boot.
>>>>> I have ordered a cutter. You simply cut it in half then somehow twist
>>>>> this in (after you have removed the seeds) and it cuts wedges plus
>>>>> removes the rind. I would report back as to how well it works or
>>>>> doesn't work but I know I would get nothing but grief about that. So I
>>>>> probably won't.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, I bought two fruit bowls from Costco. Bought them on
>>>>> Sunday and one is already gone. Am considering a Sam's membership.
>>>>> Their fruit is cheaper still but... They are clear into Seattle so not
>>>>> sure it would be worthwhile if I have to drive that far.
>>>> Do your daughter and husband refuse to scoop melon from cut halves?
>>> Yes because then they would have to deal with disposing of the rind which
>>> because of the way we have to do things here now is a PITA. Just easier
>>> all the way around to get it all done at once. No sense dirtying two
>>> Biobags. I'd rather just put it all in at once.
>>>
>>> This is all the more reason for me to be super careful with food and make
>>> only enough or carefully planned leftovers. Disposing of food is a pain!

>> Is there a link to this Biobag system? I am not sure what it is.

>
> That's actually just the brand of the bags. There are others but Costco
> sells these and I can get the best price there. Since all food scraps must
> go in them, we use a lot of them.
>
> http://www.biobagusa.com/
>
> I buy the little food bags and also the tall kitchen bags. I often need the
> tall ones if I am cleaning out the fridge or cupboards and find old things
> like cereal and chips. The little foods bags don't hold much. You also
> have to be very careful with them. Because they are designed to break down
> when they get wet, they will almost immediately start to break down when you
> do put wet foods in them, like melon. So I have learned with things like
> that it is best to just run them out to the yard waste right away. I have
> gotten a phone call when I was holding a bag and just in that length of time
> the bag will start to dissolve.
>
> I can't imagine using the lawn and leaf bags. Unless perhaps they are made
> thicker. I have bought other brands that are thicker. This is the brand
> that Waste Management recommends.
>
> They do sell a composting system. My friend uses the kitchen one they show
> on the website. She has no problems with it. I bought a different system
> that looks like a little metal garbage can with a filter in the lid. It was
> horrible. Drew fruit flies like mad, even when empty. I got rid of it and
> now just use a little vanity type wastebasket. I simply tie my bags shut
> and try to empty it daily. If I am doing something like prepping veggies
> for a big pout of soup or stew, I can easily fill the can.
>
>

Ah. I think I have used those for used kitty litter, but it may
have just been something similar. I am trying to compost veggie
waste--or leave it for the critters.

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 02-08-2012 11:29 PM

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Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Same thing I thougth when I first heard of this method, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly clean.
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW you can also break them on a table
>>>>>>>>>> That hardly sounds less messy and the rind would still need to be
>>>>>>>>>> removed. And the seeds!
>>>>>>>>> Do you really remove the rind and the seeds everytime? I understand
>>>>>>>>> why you have these issues
>>>>>>>> Of course! Who wants to pick around the seeds? And as I said, it
>>>>>>>> is no longer advised to serve it with the rind on if it is a bumpy
>>>>>>>> rind. I used to just cut in half, scoop out the seeds and serve.
>>>>>>>> But my family doesn't like to eat it this way. They prefer it cut
>>>>>>>> up and no rind.
>>>>>>> What is the point of not serving in the rind, given that you still
>>>>>>> need to cut through that rind to get to the interior? Put a cut
>>>>>>> piece on a plate, eat the melon, don't lick the plate or the rind,
>>>>>>> and wash your hands well afterwards, if you're concerned.
>>>>>> They just won't eat it that way.
>>>>> Wonderful, I'd eat it for them, more for me! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I don't enjoy my melon served all hacked into chunks, the
>>>>> least obvious handling the better I like it... I abhor those fruit
>>>>> salads with everything all hacked up unless I prepare it myself... I
>>>>> especially don't want anyone hulling and slicing my strawberries...
>>>>> I'm a big boy, I know how to use a knife. So who cuts your steak?
>>>>>
>>>> The prehacked fruits end up losing much of their individual character,
>>>> don't they? I agree on that. I also was brought up eating a wedge or a
>>>> half a cantaloupe, so cutting it up further seemed unnecessary to me.
>>> Do you know how you can tell you're at a *** black folk's picnic,
>>> dem's be eatin' cantylupe! LOL
>>>
>>> Any restaurant I've ever patronized, from 5 Star to greazy spoon,
>>> serves cantaloupe halves in their rind... it's totally left to the
>>> diner to filet them as they will. Most folks, at least those of the
>>> elevated classes, scoop and eat with a spoon... lesser classes tend to
>>> slice into wedges and dive in face first, same as they eat huge wedges
>>> of wartymelon! hehe
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGWIsvcL6s
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJIvBlBIAY
>>> http://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/03...on-stereotype/

>> I've never seen that "diving" in person. There sure are enough old
>> depictions of that stereotype though, one of which is on the top of a
>> stack of booklets on my table. For that matter, a lot of Victorian trade
>> cards had those stereotypical images.
>>
>> I haven;t been going to restaurants much, alas, and tend to go to ethnic
>> ones when I do go, so I don't run into much melon of any kind.

>
> My grandparents always served watermelon at family picnics even though they
> hated the stuff. In those days it was not the seedless and they could be
> huge. Their only rule was that it had to be eaten outside. I was with them
> in my dislike for the stuff but my mom just loves it and always insisted
> that I try it again and again. I just never developed a like for the
> texture although the flavor is fine. We have old home movies where the kids
> were eating straight from the wedge. They would then spit the seeds on the
> ground. When my dad would show the movies, he would always play them
> backwards so it looked like the kids were sucking the seeds up off of the
> ground and depositing the melon back onto the rind with their lips.
>
> I never understood why people let their kids eat in a messy fashion like
> that. Sure when they are really young and just learning to use a fork and
> spoon or even their fingers, things will be messy. But after that? I see
> no excuse. I didn't let my daughter have ice cream often unless we were at
> home she could only have it in a dish and I would fill the spoon for her
> until she learned how much to put in there. If she had it in a cone at
> home, I only put a tiny amount in the cone. I hate it when parents give
> their kids huge cones of ice cream and then let them get it all over their
> faces and drip down their hands.
>
>

I have kind-of mixed feelings about that. I tend to be careful
about such things, but then I had to temper that somewhat with my
daughter.

The watermelon and playing those movies backwards sounds like fun.
We weren't much into watermelon when I was a child.
Occasionally someone would get one and throw it into the pool, and
we'd play with it. Undoubtedly it was eaten after that. My
daughter hates it, so there was no issue with her. I don't think
there is one melon she likes, for that matter.

--
Jean B.

Jean B.[_1_] 02-08-2012 11:30 PM

Least messy way to prep a melon?
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Jean B." wrote:
>> Is there a link to this Biobag system? I am not sure what it is.

>
> Sounds like something for preventing pregnancy.


I laugh, mainly because yesterday there was a program on female
condoms....

--
Jean B.


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