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I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. Small,
but they do the best they can. They also make it a point to hire the
mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
their wares. One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.

I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. BUT, on the
other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
Honestly. My mom has several Oxo implements. They're crap! The
peeler is only sharp in one direction. The pizza cutter is undersized
tin. I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
pizza chain fer $5. Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.

BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
OPINION!!

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On 3/27/2012 10:47 AM, notbob wrote:
> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
> OPINION!!




Good thing it is, because there are many other OXO utensils that are
well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
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On 27 Mar 2012 16:47:07 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. Small,
>but they do the best they can. They also make it a point to hire the
>mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
>Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
>their wares. One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
>their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.
>
>I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
>there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. BUT, on the
>other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
>Honestly. My mom has several Oxo implements. They're crap! The
>peeler is only sharp in one direction. The pizza cutter is undersized
>tin. I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
>pizza chain fer $5. Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
>CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.
>
>BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
>OPINION!!
>
>nb


Depends on which grade of OXO you buy. I have a very heavy duty OXO
pizza cutter that I have had for years. Same for the other OXO
products I have and use regularly. When you go into a store like Bed
Bath & Beyond you will see a whole wall of OXO implements, some
lightweight and some heavy duty.
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The Cook wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2012 16:47:07 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. Small,
>> but they do the best they can. They also make it a point to hire the
>> mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
>> Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
>> their wares. One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
>> their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.
>>
>> I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
>> there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. BUT, on the
>> other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
>> Honestly. My mom has several Oxo implements. They're crap! The
>> peeler is only sharp in one direction. The pizza cutter is undersized
>> tin. I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
>> pizza chain fer $5. Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
>> CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.
>>
>> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
>> OPINION!!
>>
>> nb

>
> Depends on which grade of OXO you buy. I have a very heavy duty OXO
> pizza cutter that I have had for years. Same for the other OXO
> products I have and use regularly. When you go into a store like Bed
> Bath & Beyond you will see a whole wall of OXO implements, some
> lightweight and some heavy duty.



I think the key is, you bought the cutter years ago. Have you bought
anything from them lately?

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On 2012-03-27, The Cook > wrote:

> Depends on which grade of OXO you buy. I have a very heavy duty OXO
> pizza cutter that I have had for years. Same for the other OXO
> products I have and use regularly. When you go into a store like Bed
> Bath & Beyond you will see a whole wall of OXO implements, some
> lightweight and some heavy duty.


I was not aware they made different grades of quality. If the junk is
insanely overpriced, I can only imagine what the good stuff goes for.
Anyway, thanks for the info.

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On 2012-03-27, bob > wrote:

> Did they offer you a job?


> I have several of their
> products and I find that they work well and are designed well.


It would appear you already took the job.

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:44:37 -0500, Bull > wrote:

>In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2012-03-27, bob > wrote:
>>
>> > Did they offer you a job?

>>
>> > I have several of their
>> > products and I find that they work well and are designed well.

>>
>> It would appear you already took the job.
>>
>> nb
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>Since you chose to slander OXO by stating they are a scam, it would
>behoove you to actually know some facts. Your experience is with some
>of your mommas old OXO tools that are worn out.
>
>Here is an OXO award listing:
>
>http://www.oxo.com/OurAwards.aspx
>
>In your whole life have you even gotten one award for anything?
>
>BULL


I can give you the award for Pointy Headed Imbecile. OXO makes tool
handles with great esthetic appeal for the masses but they're actually
poorly designed ergonomically and they're attached to lousy tools.
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On 2012-03-27, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> I can give you the award for Pointy Headed Imbecile. OXO makes tool
> handles with great esthetic appeal for the masses but they're actually
> poorly designed ergonomically and they're attached to lousy tools.


You heard the man. He said that. That's what he said! heh heh....

You must know, by now, whenever shel-shock and I agree, by the
irrefutable fabric of time and space laws of the universe, it must be
true..... although both of us are loathe to admit it.

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On Mar 27, 12:12*pm, bob > wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *notbob > wrote:
> > I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. *Small,
> > but they do the best they can. *They also make it a point to hire the
> > mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
> > Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
> > their wares. *One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
> > their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.

>
> > I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
> > there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. *BUT, on the
> > other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
> > Honestly. *My mom has several Oxo implements. *They're crap! *The
> > peeler is only sharp in one direction. *The pizza cutter is undersized
> > tin. *I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
> > pizza chain fer $5. *Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
> > CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.

>
> > BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
> > OPINION!! *

>
> > nb

>
> Did they offer you a job? *OXO has many quality tools which you
> obviously wouldn't recognize if the hit you on yer hard head. The peeler
> was sharp in either direction when new.. DUH. *I have several of their
> products and I find that they work well and are designed well. *The
> salad spinner doesn't have a handle -- get yer momma to buy you one of
> those -- Pizza cutters are for numbskulls -- BINGO.
>
> BULL


Their salad spinner is a rip-off - $30? I got one at WalMart for $4,
and it works great and has lasted years ....

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On Mar 27, 9:47*am, notbob > wrote:
> I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. *Small,
> but they do the best they can. *They also make it a point to hire the
> mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
> Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
> their wares. *One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
> their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.


Try finding better implements in that range any more. That's been
impossible ever since "generic pieces of Chinese-made crap with a
brand, once famous for cookware or mixers, randomly attached" took
over the market.

>
> I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
> there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. *BUT, on the
> other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
> Honestly. *My mom has several Oxo implements. *They're crap! *The
> peeler is only sharp in one direction.


Sounds sinister to me. If you were dexterous, you wouldn't have that
problem. I was shocked to see good friends with good jobs suffering
peeling with an Ekco clone, when we've used a comfortable Oxo for
years. But not every Oxo product is as well designed.

> The pizza cutter is undersized
> tin. *I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
> pizza chain fer $5. *Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
> CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.


Saveur once sent us a nice one for renewing our subscription, though
we already had a nice ceramic one as part of a Sassafras "Chicago
Pizza kit."



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>there are many other OXO utensils that are
>well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
>tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
>before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
>bother with it.


That's too complicated for nobnot. I just bought myself an Oxo whisk
and it's quite sturdy as well as being easy to grip.

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>> Depends on which grade of OXO you buy. I have a very heavy duty OXO
>> pizza cutter that I have had for years. Same for the other OXO
>> products I have and use regularly. When you go into a store like Bed
>> Bath & Beyond you will see a whole wall of OXO implements, some
>> lightweight and some heavy duty.


>I think the key is, you bought the cutter years ago. Have you bought
>anything from them lately?


I have an Oxo can opener that is slick and durable. Only 2 yrs old.


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>You must know, by now, whenever shel-shock and I agree, by the
>irrefutable fabric of time and space laws of the universe, it must be
>true.....


Some would draw the opposite conclusion.


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On 2012-03-27, George M Middius > wrote:

> That's too complicated for nobnot.


Not too complicated for George. He'll buy whatever other ppl say he
should buy, whether is crap or not. It's got that brand name, by god,
so it must be excellent. A rube by any other name.....

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:00:11 -0600, Pennyaline
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> On 3/27/2012 10:47 AM, notbob wrote:
> > BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
> > OPINION!!

>
>
>
> Good thing it is, because there are many other OXO utensils that are
> well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
> tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
> before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
> bother with it.


It's pretty hard to handle anything well enough to know one way or the
other when they're firmly attached to a piece of cardboard the way Oxo
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On 27 Mar 2012 19:49:54 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2012-03-27, George M Middius > wrote:
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> > That's too complicated for nobnot.

>
> Not too complicated for George. He'll buy whatever other ppl say he
> should buy, whether is crap or not. It's got that brand name, by god,
> so it must be excellent. A rube by any other name.....
>

I think you're one of the people who were singing the praises of OXO
back in the day. Personally, I've always wondered why people want to
pay so much for a so-so product.


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On 2012-03-27, sf > wrote:

> I think you're one of the people who were singing the praises of OXO
> back in the day.


You haven't done anything remotely close to "think" in a coon's age.
You got arguing down to a science, though.

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On Mar 27, 12:47*pm, notbob > wrote:
> I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. *Small,
> but they do the best they can. *They also make it a point to hire the
> mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
> Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
> their wares. *One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
> their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.
>
> I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
> there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. *BUT, on the
> other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
> Honestly. *My mom has several Oxo implements. *They're crap! *The
> peeler is only sharp in one direction. *The pizza cutter is undersized
> tin. *I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
> pizza chain fer $5. *Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
> CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.
>
> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
> OPINION!! *


Gee, maybe I"m just lucky, but I have never had a bit of
malfunctioning with any of my Oxo tools. Love the can opener and
salad spinner. Maybe cuz they're oldies? I dunno, but so far I've
been lucky.
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notbob wrote:
> I was jes talking to the mgr of our local kitchen wares store. Small,
> but they do the best they can. They also make it a point to hire the
> mentally challenged, a noble attitude and one I applaud them for.
> Anyway, had a great conversation and made a few suggestions about
> their wares. One, which the mgr tentatively agreed with, was to lose
> their extensive Oxo line and get some quality implements.
>
> I can see the advantages of Oxo, on the one hand (no pun intended),
> there being such a large geezer community, hereabouts. BUT, on the
> other end of that blessedly large handle is a PIECE OF JUNK!
> Honestly. My mom has several Oxo implements. They're crap! The
> peeler is only sharp in one direction. The pizza cutter is undersized
> tin. I can buy a better one at Walmart or the local take-home-to-bake
> pizza chain fer $5. Not only is Oxo-ware insanely overpriced, it's
> CHEAP JUNK, pure and simple.
>
> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
> OPINION!!


Some of my Oxo stuff is fine. I don't have a peeler problem. But I have
had problems with the "Good Grips" handles. I can't tell you how many
potato mashers I went through. The handle works its way loose in a short
period of time making the masher useless.


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On 27 Mar 2012 20:33:09 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2012-03-27, sf > wrote:
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> > I think you're one of the people who were singing the praises of OXO
> > back in the day.

>
> You haven't done anything remotely close to "think" in a coon's age.
> You got arguing down to a science, though.
>


You're far beyond the curmudgeon stage - you're just an old sourpuss
these days.


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On 3/27/2012 1:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:00:11 -0600, Pennyaline
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2012 10:47 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
>>> OPINION!!

>>
>>
>>
>> Good thing it is, because there are many other OXO utensils that are
>> well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
>> tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
>> before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
>> bother with it.

>
> It's pretty hard to handle anything well enough to know one way or the
> other when they're firmly attached to a piece of cardboard the way Oxo
> is.


Usually, that stuff is just on there with twist ties (nudge, nudge)


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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:42:54 -0600, Pennyaline
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> On 3/27/2012 1:59 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:00:11 -0600, Pennyaline
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/27/2012 10:47 AM, notbob wrote:
> >>> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
> >>> OPINION!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good thing it is, because there are many other OXO utensils that are
> >> well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
> >> tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
> >> before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
> >> bother with it.

> >
> > It's pretty hard to handle anything well enough to know one way or the
> > other when they're firmly attached to a piece of cardboard the way Oxo
> > is.

>
> Usually, that stuff is just on there with twist ties (nudge, nudge)
>

Those were the olden days. I only see twist ties on dollar store
items these days. I don't know what they use now is called, but think
of those plastic "hand cuffs" you see the police cuff detainees with
on TV and it's a smaller version of that. I have to use kitchen
scissors to remove them. It takes both hands to close the scissors
and it's hard to cut anyway. I always worry that I'm creating a dull
spot on them when I do it.

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On 3/27/2012 1:00 PM, Pennyaline wrote:

> On 3/27/2012 10:47 AM, notbob wrote:
>> BTW, for you lawsuit happy lawyers out there, this is only my
>> OPINION!!

>
>
>
> Good thing it is, because there are many other OXO utensils that are
> well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
> tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
> before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
> bother with it.


I've never had a problem with any of my OXO utensils. I look at those
before looking at something else.
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On 3/27/2012 10:12 PM, sf wrote:
> Those were the olden days. I only see twist ties on dollar store
> items these days. I don't know what they use now is called, but think
> of those plastic "hand cuffs" you see the police cuff detainees with
> on TV and it's a smaller version of that. I have to use kitchen
> scissors to remove them. It takes both hands to close the scissors
> and it's hard to cut anyway. I always worry that I'm creating a dull
> spot on them when I do it.



It's true that I haven't bought an OXO utensil in a while, just because
I haven't needed anything in a while. When I was buying utensils, things
were available in both twist-tie and handcuff packaging, with handcuff
definitely more prevalent among the high-end implements. Still, it
wasn't so hard to tell if something was unbalanced/poorly
designed/flimsy. For example, OXO ladles are awful, and you can tell
just by looking at the angle of the bowl.


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On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:15:46 -0600, Pennyaline
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> On 3/27/2012 10:12 PM, sf wrote:
> > Those were the olden days. I only see twist ties on dollar store
> > items these days. I don't know what they use now is called, but think
> > of those plastic "hand cuffs" you see the police cuff detainees with
> > on TV and it's a smaller version of that. I have to use kitchen
> > scissors to remove them. It takes both hands to close the scissors
> > and it's hard to cut anyway. I always worry that I'm creating a dull
> > spot on them when I do it.

>
>
> It's true that I haven't bought an OXO utensil in a while, just because
> I haven't needed anything in a while. When I was buying utensils, things
> were available in both twist-tie and handcuff packaging, with handcuff
> definitely more prevalent among the high-end implements. Still, it
> wasn't so hard to tell if something was unbalanced/poorly
> designed/flimsy. For example, OXO ladles are awful, and you can tell
> just by looking at the angle of the bowl.
>

I've *never* liked OXO so you're preaching to the choir. I just told
nb that for all his haranguing against it now, he was one of the
loudest voices for it a few years ago. Frankly, I can never
understand why people push brands like OXO and name drop other brands
like All Clad, but I guess there are people (even here) that measure
their self worth by the brand names they own.

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Cheryl wrote:

>I've never had a problem with any of my OXO utensils. I look at those
>before looking at something else.


Oxo stands behind their goods 100%. If you buy something and it's
defective, you can mail it to them for a free exchange on any item.
I've done it twice, once for a silicone turner (a dumb idea because
it's too soft to work) and then for a rotary grater (flimsy). I traded
in on two other items.

I'm sure nitnob will say Big Brother Oxo deliberately sells crap so
they can get people's addresses and spy on them....


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> Those were the olden days. I only see twist ties on dollar store
> items these days. I don't know what they use now is called, but think
> of those plastic "hand cuffs" you see the police cuff detainees with
> on TV and it's a smaller version of that. I have to use kitchen
> scissors to remove them. It takes both hands to close the scissors
> and it's hard to cut anyway. I always worry that I'm creating a dull
> spot on them when I do it.


Of all people not to think of dykes! hehe

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> I only see twist ties on dollar store
> items these days. I don't know what they use now is called, but think
> of those plastic "hand cuffs" you see the police cuff detainees with
> on TV and it's a smaller version of that. I have to use kitchen
> scissors to remove them. It takes both hands to close the scissors
> and it's hard to cut anyway. I always worry that I'm creating a dull
> spot on them when I do it.


Cable ties. They come out of the electronics industry where they were
invented to hold cable bundles together.
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:43:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > I only see twist ties on dollar store
> > items these days. I don't know what they use now is called, but think
> > of those plastic "hand cuffs" you see the police cuff detainees with
> > on TV and it's a smaller version of that. I have to use kitchen
> > scissors to remove them. It takes both hands to close the scissors
> > and it's hard to cut anyway. I always worry that I'm creating a dull
> > spot on them when I do it.

>
> Cable ties. They come out of the electronics industry where they were
> invented to hold cable bundles together.


That's it, thanks Doug!

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In article <33399055.184.1332898773056.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynkv7>, says...
>
> On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:41:08 PM UTC-5, George M. Middius wrote:
> >
> > Pennyaline wrote:
> >
> > >there are many other OXO utensils that are
> > >well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
> > >tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
> > >before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
> > >bother with it.

> >
> > That's too complicated for nobnot. I just bought myself an Oxo whisk
> > and it's quite sturdy as well as being easy to grip.
> >
> >

>
> I bought an Oxo 'French' whisk about two years ago at BB&B and absolutely love, love, love it! One reason it is held in such high esteem by me is it is very comfortable in my hand. Last year I bought one of their silicone thin bladed egg turners and it's another favorite tool.


I have an OXO salad spinner and an OXO can opener.

The can opener is interesting, it cuts the lid from the outside edge so
the blade never touches the food. It's a bit countery intuitive from a
standard can opener though.

You clamp on, and twist the actuator and the blade cuts around the
perimeter of the can. Then you back off on the knob, and there's a
little pair of pliers obuilt in to remove the can lid.

Here's my blog post about it:
http://truthspew.wordpress.com/2012/...ew-can-opener/

BTW, with regard to canned goods there are only two canneries in the
United States. One in the eastern half of the country, one in the
western half of the country.



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On Apr 4, 7:50*pm, T > wrote:
> In article <33399055.184.1332898773056.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
> forums@ynkv7>, says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:41:08 PM UTC-5, George M. Middius wrote:

>
> > > Pennyaline wrote:

>
> > > >there are many other OXO utensils that are
> > > >well worth the money. Just be careful about what you're buying. You can
> > > >tell by the look and feel of an implement whether it's worth it or not
> > > >before you buy it. If it's obviously flimsy or poorly designed, don't
> > > >bother with it.

>
> > > That's too complicated for nobnot. I just bought myself an Oxo whisk
> > > and it's quite sturdy as well as being easy to grip.

>
> > I bought an Oxo 'French' whisk about two years ago at BB&B and absolutely love, love, love it! *One reason it is held in such high esteem by me is it is very comfortable in my hand. *Last year I bought one of their silicone thin bladed egg turners and it's another favorite tool.

>
> I have an OXO salad spinner and an OXO can opener.
>
> The can opener is interesting, it cuts the lid from the outside edge so
> the blade never touches the food. It's a bit countery intuitive from a
> standard can opener though.
>
> You clamp on, and twist the actuator and the blade cuts around the
> perimeter of the can. Then you back off on the knob, and there's a
> little pair of pliers obuilt in to remove the can lid.
>
> Here's my blog post about it:http://truthspew.wordpress.com/2012/...ew-can-opener/
>
> BTW, with regard to canned goods there are only two canneries in the
> United States. One in the eastern half of the country, one in the
> western half of the country.


There are nine in just three California counties.
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