so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:

stainless
nylon
vinyl
PVC

correct?

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 02:29:30 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>
> stainless
> nylon
> vinyl
> PVC
>
> correct?

No idea. I can only tell you that I saw a very impressive dishwasher
at a real estate open house today. It was a Thermadore - Professional
Series. Very impressive. Heavy door, nice styling with a bevel on
it.
http://www.aggressiveappliances.com/...dwhd630gcp.jpg
http://www.aggressiveappliances.com/...es-dishwasher/

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

tert in seattle wrote:
>
> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>
> stainless
> nylon
> vinyl
> PVC
>
> correct?

Vinyl and PVC (polyVINYLcloride) are the same thing. Nylon is tougher
than PVC, but it's hygroscopic so it had better be over a stainless rack
frame or I'd expect rust issues. Stainless will be durable, but it's a
hard surface and more likely to damage items placed on the rack than the
"padded" nylon or PVC coated racks.

Pete C. wrote:
>
> tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>>
>> stainless
>> nylon
>> vinyl
>> PVC
>>
>> correct?
>
> Vinyl and PVC (polyVINYLcloride) are the same thing. Nylon is tougher
> than PVC, but it's hygroscopic so it had better be over a stainless rack
> frame or I'd expect rust issues. Stainless will be durable, but it's a
> hard surface and more likely to damage items placed on the rack than the
> "padded" nylon or PVC coated racks.

thanks, that helps

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> Pete C. wrote:
> >
> > tert in seattle wrote:
> >>
> >> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
> >>
> >> stainless
> >> nylon
> >> vinyl
> >> PVC
> >>
> >> correct?
> >
> > Vinyl and PVC (polyVINYLcloride) are the same thing. Nylon is tougher
> > than PVC, but it's hygroscopic so it had better be over a stainless rack
> > frame or I'd expect rust issues. Stainless will be durable, but it's a
> > hard surface and more likely to damage items placed on the rack than the
> > "padded" nylon or PVC coated racks.
>
> thanks, that helps

Racks are racks. They are always coated and I don't care what's under
the coating. I'd be more concerned about whether or not the wheels
were going to fall off.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:36:06 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:
>
>> Pete C. wrote:
>> >
>> > tert in seattle wrote:
>> >>
>> >> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>> >>
>> >> stainless
>> >> nylon
>> >> vinyl
>> >> PVC
>> >>
>> >> correct?
>> >
>> > Vinyl and PVC (polyVINYLcloride) are the same thing. Nylon is tougher
>> > than PVC, but it's hygroscopic so it had better be over a stainless rack
>> > frame or I'd expect rust issues. Stainless will be durable, but it's a
>> > hard surface and more likely to damage items placed on the rack than the
>> > "padded" nylon or PVC coated racks.
>>
>> thanks, that helps
>
>Racks are racks.

That's what you think.
This is a rack: http://tinyurl.com/6r3hnw6

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:
>
>> Pete C. wrote:
>> >
>> > tert in seattle wrote:
>> >>
>> >> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>> >>
>> >> stainless
>> >> nylon
>> >> vinyl
>> >> PVC
>> >>
>> >> correct?
>> >
>> > Vinyl and PVC (polyVINYLcloride) are the same thing. Nylon is tougher
>> > than PVC, but it's hygroscopic so it had better be over a stainless rack
>> > frame or I'd expect rust issues. Stainless will be durable, but it's a
>> > hard surface and more likely to damage items placed on the rack than the
>> > "padded" nylon or PVC coated racks.
>>
>> thanks, that helps
>
> Racks are racks. They are always coated and I don't care what's under
> the coating. I'd be more concerned about whether or not the wheels
> were going to fall off.

well, nylon and vinyl are definitely two different things, and since
I've got two five-year-olds who like to "help" in the kitchen I want
the more durable covering they can stab with a fork without necessitating
a replacement rack

On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:01:32 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Pete C. wrote:
> >> >
> >> > tert in seattle wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
> >> >>
> >> >> stainless
> >> >> nylon
> >> >> vinyl
> >> >> PVC
> >> >>
> >> >> correct?
> >> >
> >> > Vinyl and PVC (polyVINYLcloride) are the same thing. Nylon is tougher
> >> > than PVC, but it's hygroscopic so it had better be over a stainless rack
> >> > frame or I'd expect rust issues. Stainless will be durable, but it's a
> >> > hard surface and more likely to damage items placed on the rack than the
> >> > "padded" nylon or PVC coated racks.
> >>
> >> thanks, that helps
> >
> > Racks are racks. They are always coated and I don't care what's under
> > the coating. I'd be more concerned about whether or not the wheels
> > were going to fall off.
>
> well, nylon and vinyl are definitely two different things, and since
> I've got two five-year-olds who like to "help" in the kitchen I want
> the more durable covering they can stab with a fork without necessitating
> a replacement rack

Oh, come on. I raised two kids, a grandchild that's 11 now and
currently have two one year old grandchildren who help me with the
dishes - but stabbing a rack with a fork has never even come up.
Silverware goes in it's own compartment not on the dish racks.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mar 17, 9:29*pm, tert in seattle > wrote:
> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>
> stainless
> nylon
> vinyl
> PVC
>
> correct?

I would never want stainless racks - glasses and dishes would "bang
around" more and possibly chip. The racks in my GE "tall tub"
dishwasher are vinyl-coated, and aren't stained or marked up after 6
years of use, and work just fine.

N.

On 3/19/2012 11:01 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Mar 17, 9:29 pm, tert in > wrote:
>> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>>
>> stainless
>> nylon
>> vinyl
>> PVC
>>
>> correct?
>
> I would never want stainless racks - glasses and dishes would "bang
> around" more and possibly chip. The racks in my GE "tall tub"
> dishwasher are vinyl-coated, and aren't stained or marked up after 6
> years of use, and work just fine.

My top rack is vinyl and I actually broke a glass in it tonight. I was
loading it to run and a bowl I put on the top rack fell over onto glass
and broke it and I hope I found all the pieces. I had to just run it.
I might find some clean sharp pieces in the flatware bin because I
couldn't find any more pieces.

I also just bought a GE Tall tub stainless dishwasher. The cycle ended
without incident so I'll have to be careful emptying it.

On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> I would never want stainless racks - glasses and dishes would "bang
> around" more and possibly chip. The racks in my GE "tall tub"
> dishwasher are vinyl-coated, and aren't stained or marked up after 6
> years of use, and work just fine.

Does any manufacturer offer an option of stainless steel racks?

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mar 19, 11:28*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>
> > wrote:
> > I would never want stainless racks - glasses and dishes would "bang
> > around" more and possibly chip. *The racks in my GE "tall tub"
> > dishwasher are vinyl-coated, and aren't stained or marked up after 6
> > years of use, and work just fine.
>
> Does any manufacturer offer an option of stainless steel racks?
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

I haven't a clue - it was part of the OP from tert:

"so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
stainless
nylon
vinyl
PVC
correct?"

N.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:51:02 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> On Mar 19, 11:28*pm, sf > wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > I would never want stainless racks - glasses and dishes would "bang
> > > around" more and possibly chip. *The racks in my GE "tall tub"
> > > dishwasher are vinyl-coated, and aren't stained or marked up after 6
> > > years of use, and work just fine.
> >
> > Does any manufacturer offer an option of stainless steel racks?
> >
> > --
> > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
> I haven't a clue - it was part of the OP from tert:
>
> "so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
> stainless
> nylon
> vinyl
> PVC
> correct?"
>
It puzzled me then and it's still puzzling me now. I don't remember
ever seeing stainless steel racks, only interior walls.


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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

No doubt stainless is the best. Next comes nylon. PVC and vinyl are similar. PVC and vinyl comes with coating. They do not damage the utensils.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 02:29:30 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> so for racks, it seems in order of best to worst is:
>>
>> stainless
>> nylon
>> vinyl
>> PVC
>
> I prefer real flesh. None of that saline or silicon crap for me. I
> don't even mind if she doesn't wash dishes, as long as they're real.

So hard (or soft?) to argue.

pavane