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On 10/22/2011 6:58 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 10/19/2011 10:39 PM, MaryL wrote: >> If you go to this location, you can see several pictures of Duffy in the >> Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/clal7 It almost looks like the >> picture has been Photoshopped, but it hasn't--that is the real thing, >> with Duffy perched in the tree. Incidentally, the album is labeled >> "recent pics," but I really need to edit it. Those pictures are no >> longer "recent." > > I'm glad you posted that picture of Duffy in the tree. I've always loved > that one. Here's a new one of Yogi. http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for dry cat food over canned. He goes on his first RV trip next week. I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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"Janet Wilder" wrote in message eb.com... On 10/22/2011 6:58 PM, Cheryl wrote: > On 10/19/2011 10:39 PM, MaryL wrote: >> If you go to this location, you can see several pictures of Duffy in the >> Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/clal7 It almost looks like the >> picture has been Photoshopped, but it hasn't--that is the real thing, >> with Duffy perched in the tree. Incidentally, the album is labeled >> "recent pics," but I really need to edit it. Those pictures are no >> longer "recent." > > I'm glad you posted that picture of Duffy in the tree. I've always loved > that one. Here's a new one of Yogi. http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for dry cat food over canned. He goes on his first RV trip next week. I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. - - - - - - - - - - - Oh, he is so cute. He should be able to find a loving home, especially since he will have been socialized. MaryL |
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Janet Wilder wrote:
> Here's a new one of Yogi. > > http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg > Very cute picture. I love those eyes. They are almost as big as he is! > He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in > at a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. > > He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for > dry cat food over canned. > > He goes on his first RV trip next week. > > I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. Betch DON'T. LOL |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:03:15 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote: >On 10/22/2011 6:58 PM, Cheryl wrote: >> On 10/19/2011 10:39 PM, MaryL wrote: >>> If you go to this location, you can see several pictures of Duffy in the >>> Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/clal7 It almost looks like the >>> picture has been Photoshopped, but it hasn't--that is the real thing, >>> with Duffy perched in the tree. Incidentally, the album is labeled >>> "recent pics," but I really need to edit it. Those pictures are no >>> longer "recent." >> >> I'm glad you posted that picture of Duffy in the tree. I've always loved >> that one. > >Here's a new one of Yogi. > >http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg > >He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at >a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. > >He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for >dry cat food over canned. > >He goes on his first RV trip next week. > >I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. You ****ing disgusting bitch. That kitten has already bonded. Only a sick **** would would turn that kitten back to a shelter. I can't hardly wait for your cancer to return full bloom, DIE A MISEREABLE DEATH YOU PIECE OF SHIT! |
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Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz foamed and raved:
> That kitten has already bonded. Only a sick **** would would turn that > kitten back to a shelter. So, how many cats have *you* rescued from shelters this year, hypocrite? None. That's what I thought. Bob |
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Bob Terwilliger wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz foamed and raved: > > > That kitten has already bonded. Only a sick **** would would turn > > that kitten back to a shelter. > > So, how many cats have you rescued from shelters this year, hypocrite? > > None. That's what I thought. Sheldon has something like 6 cats. Grin, technically I rescued this past year though. Aunti Mabel turns 15 on Thanksgiving. Thats a nominal date we made up as we got her at estimated age 14 (may be more per vet) last Thanksgiving. He's never fostered though which is what I gather she is doing and I have done. I long ago lost count of how many foster cats were here for a time to heal then moved on to be adopted. Did that from 1979-2001. Grin, Aunti Mabel came to us as a temp foster for Thanksgiving weekend so her regular foster mom could go to a family reunion. We fell in love right away with this lovely elderly lady who'd never been an indoor dog until found abandoned with a bunch of other sick elderly beagles by some asshole. I'm proud of her though. She housebroke here in 3 days (the foster had her in a backroom with a doggie door). She's learned a good bit of ASL too (deaf from ear infections and possibly why she was abandoned plus the heart worms). I know she won't last long, but this past year has been a blessing for us all. -- |
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"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message b.com... > Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz foamed and raved: > >> That kitten has already bonded. Only a sick **** would would turn that >> kitten back to a shelter. > > So, how many cats have *you* rescued from shelters this year, hypocrite? > > None. That's what I thought. My cats are shelter cats and this is their forever home. I could not ever foster any pets because I know I wouldn't want to give them up. But I do know a family who does foster pets. Some people can do it. I am not one of them. I do know that my shelter cats did not bond with me right away like they are bonded now. Their behavior seemed to change in several stages. |
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janet i am so proud to say i have your aquaintance, if only through the
groups both read. It is a very kind service you have done for this kitten and his forever home. remember you can always tell the shelter you will take him if there are ever issues. in the meantime you are to be commended for such an unselfish act as you have done, creating a socail loving creature for a family to love, i wish i could foster more but its very painful... it is easier with older cats, but its still hard. Lee "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message eb.com... > On 10/22/2011 6:58 PM, Cheryl wrote: >> On 10/19/2011 10:39 PM, MaryL wrote: >>> If you go to this location, you can see several pictures of Duffy in the >>> Christmas tree: http://tinyurl.com/clal7 It almost looks like the >>> picture has been Photoshopped, but it hasn't--that is the real thing, >>> with Duffy perched in the tree. Incidentally, the album is labeled >>> "recent pics," but I really need to edit it. Those pictures are no >>> longer "recent." >> >> I'm glad you posted that picture of Duffy in the tree. I've always loved >> that one. > > Here's a new one of Yogi. > > http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg > > He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at a > whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. > > He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for dry > cat food over canned. > > He goes on his first RV trip next week. > > I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. > > -- > Janet Wilder > Way-the-heck-south Texas > Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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it takes a real man/woman to foster, its not for the faint of heart, it
calls for maturity, strength, the ability to mourn and most of all to have it in your heart doing what is best for the animal not for one's own selfish needs... of course he has never fostered. Lee "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message b.com... > Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz foamed and raved: > >> That kitten has already bonded. Only a sick **** would would turn that >> kitten back to a shelter. > > So, how many cats have *you* rescued from shelters this year, hypocrite? > > None. That's what I thought. > > Bob > |
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which is perfectly normal on all counts, the only reason i can foster is
because there are so many strays/ferrels where i live that i must get them healthy and to a shelter to try and save the next one, i simply can't keep all i take in... what i do have are the one's who aren't adoptable, or weren't when i got them except for two, storrmmee was nine ounces and the no kill shelter i work with nly takes kittens when they have a nursnig quen, barb i had ringworm, mathew was a hidious mass of hair and sores, trudi is just plain sickly, cute but had/has orthopedic issues which took quite some time to discover she was full of bee bees, had they been surrendered they would have been pts, Lee "Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... > > "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message > b.com... >> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz foamed and raved: >> >>> That kitten has already bonded. Only a sick **** would would turn that >>> kitten back to a shelter. >> >> So, how many cats have *you* rescued from shelters this year, hypocrite? >> >> None. That's what I thought. > > My cats are shelter cats and this is their forever home. I could not ever > foster any pets because I know I wouldn't want to give them up. But I do > know a family who does foster pets. Some people can do it. I am not one > of them. I do know that my shelter cats did not bond with me right away > like they are bonded now. Their behavior seemed to change in several > stages. > |
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On 10/22/2011 8:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> Here's a new one of Yogi. > > http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg > > He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at > a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. > > He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for > dry cat food over canned. > > He goes on his first RV trip next week. > > I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. That picture took my breath away, what an adorable kitten. Those eyes! And I'm helpless for a tuxedo cat. nancy |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:45:30 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto> wrote:
> On 10/22/2011 8:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote: > > > Here's a new one of Yogi. > > > > http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg > > > > He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at > > a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. > > > > He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for > > dry cat food over canned. > > > > He goes on his first RV trip next week. > > > > I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. > > That picture took my breath away, what an adorable kitten. > Those eyes! And I'm helpless for a tuxedo cat. > Adorable, isn't he? Seems much more alert than he was in the other picture. Are all black and white cats called tuxedo? I thought their body needed to be unbroken black with white on their chest and maybe face & feet to be a tuxedo. -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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"J. Clarke" > wrote in message in.local... > In article >, > says... >> >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:26:30 -0400, Cheryl > >> wrote: >> >> > On 10/19/2011 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> > >> > > In this case he's absolutely correct. Check with the local Fire >> > > Marshall. Grills on wooden decks are not recommended and often >> > > illegal. >> > > Gas or charcoal, they're a fire hazard if you place them on wood. >> > >> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and there's >> > nothing unsafe about it. >> >> There are exceptions - so if you burn your own house down, that's your >> responsibility. Taken from Chowhound >> >> Here's the gist of what the code reads: >> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >> >> Exceptions: >> 1. One- and two-family dwellings. > > Well, that means that it's OK on your own deck on your own house so > quitcherbellyachin'. I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home on fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit out there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. And he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I was sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. I ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill (they had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let it go.) They could have burned the whole building down. In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I still dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. Jill |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > "J. Clarke" > wrote: > >> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and there's > >> > nothing unsafe about it. About 2 years ago, the state of Virginia passed a law banning cooking on grills on back porches and balconies at apartments and condos. Evidently, lots of fires have started that way. (?) Years ago, before the ban, I started a charcoal fire in my Weber grill on my back balcony. My balcony is fire free - ie concrete floor and ceiling and brick walls. It was dusk one evening and after putting the lighter fluid on the charcoal, it flamed up high at first. I always stood out there supervising the flames before it died out. Some neighbor saw these high flames from my porch and called the fire department and they came here. By the time they got here and banged on my door with fire extinguishers in hand, my grill fire had died down. i invited them in to see what I had going on here. It was all kind of funny that someone had seen my flames and panicked but we all agreed that it's better to be safe than sorry. |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:32:23 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: > >"J. Clarke" > wrote in message ain.local... >> In article >, >> says... >>> >>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:26:30 -0400, Cheryl > >>> wrote: >>> >>> > On 10/19/2011 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: >>> > >>> > > In this case he's absolutely correct. Check with the local Fire >>> > > Marshall. Grills on wooden decks are not recommended and often >>> > > illegal. >>> > > Gas or charcoal, they're a fire hazard if you place them on wood. >>> > >>> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and there's >>> > nothing unsafe about it. >>> >>> There are exceptions - so if you burn your own house down, that's your >>> responsibility. Taken from Chowhound >>> >>> Here's the gist of what the code reads: >>> >>> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >>> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >>> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >>> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >>> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find >>> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >>> >>> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >>> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >>> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >>> >>> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >>> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >>> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >>> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >>> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find >>> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >>> >>> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >>> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >>> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >>> >>> Exceptions: >>> 1. One- and two-family dwellings. >> >> Well, that means that it's OK on your own deck on your own house so >> quitcherbellyachin'. > >I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home on >fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. > >In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit out >there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and >pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. And >he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I was >sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started >shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. I >ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill (they >had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let it >go.) They could have burned the whole building down. > >In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I still >dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I >wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. Grilling on a wooden deck results in the majority of grilling fires. I would love to grill on my deck, would save many steps, but I use my grill on the ground and 15 feet from my deck... I don't even use a propane cylinder, my grill is connected to a remote propane tank, but still a gas grill should never be trusted to not spring a leak spontaneously creating an inferno that cannot be extinguished by the homeowner... by the time the fire department arrives everyone inside the structure will be toast. Placing a grill on an upper deck is the worst of all possible locations... a gas fire is sudden, there is no warning, no one will escape. We all know that sf is an imbecile but Cheryl is an airhead (not quite an imbecile), she has plenty of room to move her grill into her backyard and safely away from her house and other combustibles. Just because neighbors are ignoranuses who place their grill on a wooden deck doesn't mean one needs to follow suit. And unused propane cylinders must be placed away from structures and in a shaded outdoor location... placed in the sun they can explode (even though they need filling they are not empty). http://www.nationwide.com/grill-safety.jsp |
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Gary wrote:
> Years ago, before the ban, I started a charcoal fire in my Weber > grill on my back balcony. My balcony is fire free - ie concrete floor > and ceiling and brick walls. It was dusk one evening and after > putting the lighter fluid on the charcoal, it flamed up high at > first. I always stood out there supervising the flames before it > died out. > > Some neighbor saw these high flames from my porch and called the fire > department and they came here. By the time they got here and banged > on my door with fire extinguishers in hand, my grill fire had died > down. i invited them in to see what I had going on here. It was all > kind of funny that someone had seen my flames and panicked but we all > agreed that it's better to be safe than sorry. Don't use lighter fluid. Plain and simple. You might miss that petro-chemical taste on your food the first few times, but after a while, you will be able to taste and enjoy the meat without that smudge-pot smell. |
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On 10/23/2011 2:11 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> janet i am so proud to say i have your aquaintance, if only through the > groups both read. It is a very kind service you have done for this kitten > and his forever home. remember you can always tell the shelter you will > take him if there are ever issues. in the meantime you are to be commended > for such an unselfish act as you have done, creating a socail loving > creature for a family to love, i wish i could foster more but its very > painful... it is easier with older cats, but its still hard. Lee Thanks for the kind words, Lee. We adore Yogi, but we travel a lot and we have a neighbor who we swap sit with our dogs. They can't take the cat. We feel Yogi deserves a home with people who will be with him all the time and not have to leave him at a kennel or worse, home alone with a pet sitter who comes in a few times a day to feed him and change the litter. We will all miss him, but we want him to have a perfect home and ours is not the right home at present for a kitty. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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On 10/23/2011 7:08 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:45:30 -0400, Nancy Young<email@replyto> wrote: > >> On 10/22/2011 8:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote: >> >>> Here's a new one of Yogi. >>> >>> http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg >>> >>> He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in at >>> a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. >>> >>> He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for >>> dry cat food over canned. >>> >>> He goes on his first RV trip next week. >>> >>> I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. >> >> That picture took my breath away, what an adorable kitten. >> Those eyes! And I'm helpless for a tuxedo cat. >> > Adorable, isn't he? Seems much more alert than he was in the other > picture. Are all black and white cats called tuxedo? I thought their > body needed to be unbroken black with white on their chest and maybe > face& feet to be a tuxedo. > He is extremely alert and bright. Don't know if he's a true "tuxedo" but he's truly adorable. :-) -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message ... it takes a real man/woman to foster, its not for the faint of heart, it calls for maturity, strength, the ability to mourn and most of all to have it in your heart doing what is best for the animal not for one's own selfish needs... of course he has never fostered. Lee - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Excellent post! MaryL |
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i totally understand, my cat travelled with us a lot when i was a kid, but
he was a very special cat, he walked on a leash and did dog tricks to amuse my father, not many cats will do either, and truth be told unless its an only cat or hate cat personality you generally need two for best adjustment... again, i am proud of you for this work, Lee "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message .com... > On 10/23/2011 2:11 AM, Storrmmee wrote: >> janet i am so proud to say i have your aquaintance, if only through the >> groups both read. It is a very kind service you have done for this >> kitten >> and his forever home. remember you can always tell the shelter you will >> take him if there are ever issues. in the meantime you are to be >> commended >> for such an unselfish act as you have done, creating a socail loving >> creature for a family to love, i wish i could foster more but its very >> painful... it is easier with older cats, but its still hard. Lee > > Thanks for the kind words, Lee. > We adore Yogi, but we travel a lot and we have a neighbor who we swap sit > with our dogs. They can't take the cat. We feel Yogi deserves a home with > people who will be with him all the time and not have to leave him at a > kennel or worse, home alone with a pet sitter who comes in a few times a > day to feed him and change the litter. > > We will all miss him, but we want him to have a perfect home and ours is > not the right home at present for a kitty. > > -- > Janet Wilder > Way-the-heck-south Texas > Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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true tuxidos have a white chest mostly the rest black if you except feet...
otherwise they are bicolored... either way i am sure he is adorable. Lee "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message .com... > On 10/23/2011 7:08 AM, sf wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:45:30 -0400, Nancy Young<email@replyto> wrote: >> >>> On 10/22/2011 8:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote: >>> >>>> Here's a new one of Yogi. >>>> >>>> http://i53.tinypic.com/15qxdok.jpg >>>> >>>> He gained 5 ounces in a week and has grown quite a bit. He weighed in >>>> at >>>> a whopping one pound yesterday. I used the digital kitchen scale. >>>> >>>> He is now using the litter box on his own and showing a preference for >>>> dry cat food over canned. >>>> >>>> He goes on his first RV trip next week. >>>> >>>> I am giving him back to the shelter when we get back. >>> >>> That picture took my breath away, what an adorable kitten. >>> Those eyes! And I'm helpless for a tuxedo cat. >>> >> Adorable, isn't he? Seems much more alert than he was in the other >> picture. Are all black and white cats called tuxedo? I thought their >> body needed to be unbroken black with white on their chest and maybe >> face& feet to be a tuxedo. >> > > He is extremely alert and bright. Don't know if he's a true "tuxedo" but > he's truly adorable. :-) > > -- > Janet Wilder > Way-the-heck-south Texas > Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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In article >,
says... > > "J. Clarke" > wrote in message > in.local... > > In article >, > > says... > >> > >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:26:30 -0400, Cheryl > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On 10/19/2011 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: > >> > > >> > > In this case he's absolutely correct. Check with the local Fire > >> > > Marshall. Grills on wooden decks are not recommended and often > >> > > illegal. > >> > > Gas or charcoal, they're a fire hazard if you place them on wood. > >> > > >> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and there's > >> > nothing unsafe about it. > >> > >> There are exceptions - so if you burn your own house down, that's your > >> responsibility. Taken from Chowhound > >> > >> Here's the gist of what the code reads: > >> > >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the > >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and > >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame > >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on > >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find > >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: > >> > >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other > >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible > >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. > >> > >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the > >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and > >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame > >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on > >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find > >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: > >> > >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other > >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible > >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. > >> > >> Exceptions: > >> 1. One- and two-family dwellings. > > > > Well, that means that it's OK on your own deck on your own house so > > quitcherbellyachin'. > > I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home on > fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. > > In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit out > there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and > pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. And > he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I was > sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started > shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. I > ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill (they > had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let it > go.) They could have burned the whole building down. > > In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I still > dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I > wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. Suit yourself, but if you whine at everyone who does pretty soon you won't be getting invited to any cookouts. |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:04:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> Some neighbor saw these high flames from my porch and called the fire > department and they came here. It's just like a man to use so much lighter fluid. You don't need flames high enough to reach the second story just to start a few coals. -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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On 10/23/2011 11:32 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home > on fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. > > In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit > out there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and > pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. > And he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One > afternoon I was sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. > Flames started shooting up from the patio below and practically set my > balcony on fire. I ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the > fire on the grill (they had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole > chicken on it and let it go.) They could have burned the whole building > down. > > In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I > still dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on > it. I wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. Grills on a deck in a private home is much different from using a grill on an apartment balcony where there is wood directly over head. |
OT Cats and Christmas Trees
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:52:49 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote: >In article >, >says... >> >> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message >> in.local... >> > In article >, >> > says... >> >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:26:30 -0400, Cheryl > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On 10/19/2011 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > In this case he's absolutely correct. Check with the local Fire >> >> > > Marshall. Grills on wooden decks are not recommended and often >> >> > > illegal. >> >> > > Gas or charcoal, they're a fire hazard if you place them on wood. >> >> > >> >> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and there's >> >> > nothing unsafe about it. >> >> >> >> There are exceptions - so if you burn your own house down, that's your >> >> responsibility. Taken from Chowhound >> >> >> >> Here's the gist of what the code reads: >> >> >> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >> >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >> >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >> >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >> >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find >> >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >> >> >> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >> >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >> >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >> >> >> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >> >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >> >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >> >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >> >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will find >> >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >> >> >> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >> >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >> >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >> >> >> >> Exceptions: >> >> 1. One- and two-family dwellings. >> > >> > Well, that means that it's OK on your own deck on your own house so >> > quitcherbellyachin'. >> >> I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home on >> fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. >> >> In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit out >> there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and >> pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. And >> he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I was >> sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started >> shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. I >> ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill (they >> had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let it >> go.) They could have burned the whole building down. >> >> In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I still >> dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I >> wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. > >Suit yourself, but if you whine at everyone who does pretty soon you >won't be getting invited to any cookouts. I'd consider that an asset, I really don't want to eat slop with the hogs. |
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OT Cats and Christmas Trees
"J. Clarke" > wrote in message in.local... > In article >, > says... >> >> In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit >> out >> there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and >> pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. And >> he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I >> was >> sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started >> shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. >> I >> ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill >> (they >> had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let it >> go.) They could have burned the whole building down. >> >> In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I >> still >> dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I >> wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. > > Suit yourself, but if you whine at everyone who does pretty soon you > won't be getting invited to any cookouts. It's got nothing to do about whining (or being invited) and all about don't set my apartment on fire! Jill |
OT Cats and Christmas Trees
"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message ... > On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:52:49 -0400, "J. Clarke" > > wrote: > >>In article >, >>says... >>> >>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message >>> in.local... >>> > In article >, >>> > >>> > says... >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:26:30 -0400, Cheryl > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > On 10/19/2011 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > > In this case he's absolutely correct. Check with the local Fire >>> >> > > Marshall. Grills on wooden decks are not recommended and often >>> >> > > illegal. >>> >> > > Gas or charcoal, they're a fire hazard if you place them on wood. >>> >> > >>> >> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and >>> >> > there's >>> >> > nothing unsafe about it. >>> >> >>> >> There are exceptions - so if you burn your own house down, that's >>> >> your >>> >> responsibility. Taken from Chowhound >>> >> >>> >> Here's the gist of what the code reads: >>> >> >>> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >>> >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >>> >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >>> >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >>> >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will >>> >> find >>> >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >>> >> >>> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >>> >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >>> >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >>> >> >>> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >>> >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >>> >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >>> >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >>> >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will >>> >> find >>> >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >>> >> >>> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >>> >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >>> >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >>> >> >>> >> Exceptions: >>> >> 1. One- and two-family dwellings. >>> > >>> > Well, that means that it's OK on your own deck on your own house so >>> > quitcherbellyachin'. >>> >>> I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home >>> on >>> fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. >>> >>> In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit >>> out >>> there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and >>> pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. >>> And >>> he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I >>> was >>> sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started >>> shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. >>> I >>> ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill >>> (they >>> had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let >>> it >>> go.) They could have burned the whole building down. >>> >>> In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I >>> still >>> dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I >>> wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. >> >>Suit yourself, but if you whine at everyone who does pretty soon you >>won't be getting invited to any cookouts. > > I'd consider that an asset, I really don't want to eat slop with the > hogs. Apparently the kid lit the grill then threw a chicken on it. Who trusts a 15 year old kid to cook dinner on a grill? I don't know. The whole thing was shooting flames up through my wooden balcony. And the kids were inside left to fend for themselves, playing video games or something. When I ran down there they were inside, paying no attention to the grill. They certainly didn't have the attention span to deal with dinner. It's amazing this guy actually got partial custody of his children. Anyway, it was a wooden balcony. And grills should not be allowed on wooden decks or below wooden balconies. Jill |
OT Cats and Christmas Trees
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:42:06 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: > >"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message .. . >> On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:52:49 -0400, "J. Clarke" >> > wrote: >> >>>In article >, >>>says... >>>> >>>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message >>>> in.local... >>>> > In article >, >>>> > >>>> > says... >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:26:30 -0400, Cheryl > >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> > On 10/19/2011 10:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > In this case he's absolutely correct. Check with the local Fire >>>> >> > > Marshall. Grills on wooden decks are not recommended and often >>>> >> > > illegal. >>>> >> > > Gas or charcoal, they're a fire hazard if you place them on wood. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Everyone I know grills on a deck. It isn't illegal here, and >>>> >> > there's >>>> >> > nothing unsafe about it. >>>> >> >>>> >> There are exceptions - so if you burn your own house down, that's >>>> >> your >>>> >> responsibility. Taken from Chowhound >>>> >> >>>> >> Here's the gist of what the code reads: >>>> >> >>>> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >>>> >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >>>> >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >>>> >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >>>> >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will >>>> >> find >>>> >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >>>> >> >>>> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >>>> >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >>>> >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >>>> >> >>>> >> In 2007, California updated its Fire Code and adopted portions of the >>>> >> 2006 International Fire Code, including sections 308.3.1 and >>>> >> 308.3.1.1. Those sections effectively ban the use of open-flame >>>> >> cooking devices on combustible decks. This ban became operative on >>>> >> January 1st, 2008. The code is not available online, but you will >>>> >> find >>>> >> a copy of the code in most libraries. The sections read as follows: >>>> >> >>>> >> 308.3.1 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other >>>> >> open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible >>>> >> balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. >>>> >> >>>> >> Exceptions: >>>> >> 1. One- and two-family dwellings. >>>> > >>>> > Well, that means that it's OK on your own deck on your own house so >>>> > quitcherbellyachin'. >>>> >>>> I don't care what the code says. It's okay with me if you set your home >>>> on >>>> fire but it's not okay if you sent mine on fire along with yours. >>>> >>>> In 1995 I lived in an upstairs apartment with a wooden balcony. I'd sit >>>> out >>>> there after work, reading. Except this idiot had 5 wayward teen and >>>> pre-teen children on the weekends. I think the oldest was about 15. >>>> And >>>> he'd have them try to cook dinner before he came home. One afternoon I >>>> was >>>> sitting outside when they decided to fire up the grill. Flames started >>>> shooting up from the patio below and practically set my balcony on fire. >>>> I >>>> ran downstairs with a fire extinguisher, put out the fire on the grill >>>> (they >>>> had lit it, got a raging fire going, put a whole chicken on it and let >>>> it >>>> go.) They could have burned the whole building down. >>>> >>>> In my next apartment, I had a very nice spacious 22 sq. ft. patio. I >>>> still >>>> dragged the grill well away from the fencing before I cooked on it. I >>>> wouldn't grill on a wooden deck. >>> >>>Suit yourself, but if you whine at everyone who does pretty soon you >>>won't be getting invited to any cookouts. >> >> I'd consider that an asset, I really don't want to eat slop with the >> hogs. > >Apparently the kid lit the grill then threw a chicken on it. Who trusts a >15 year old kid to cook dinner on a grill? I don't know. The whole thing >was shooting flames up through my wooden balcony. And the kids were inside >left to fend for themselves, playing video games or something. When I ran >down there they were inside, paying no attention to the grill. They >certainly didn't have the attention span to deal with dinner. It's amazing >this guy actually got partial custody of his children. > >Anyway, it was a wooden balcony. And grills should not be allowed on wooden >decks or below wooden balconies. > >Jill It's common sense... grilling on a combustible deck is tantamount to smoking in bed... yeah, pinheads do both. And I'll bet Cheryl ain't smokin' in bed. |
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