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> Have you checked out the stair lifts? I keep seeing the Acorn
> commercials but have not investigated. If my back gets much worse I
> may check them out.
> --
> Susan N.


I've not looked seriously yet, but is is an option.
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> Why? General health, not specific problems. It is a form of regular
> enforced light exercise. As is often noted - use it or lose it. It is a
> trite saying but a valid concept.
>
>>
>> As I said, get back to us in ten years. While I wish you good health,
>> shit happens and you may not be so cocky in the future..

>
> Cocky? I am not cocky, I have just had experience. I lived on a ketch for
> more than ten years after I lost my first wife and met a lot of very old
> but very fit cruising yachts-people.
>
>


Your experience on a ketch has nothing to do with your attitude. You have
no idea what my wife's situation is, yet you offer advice, contrary to the
medical experts. It is a hereditary condition, not changed by living on
boats. It is not a use it or lose it situation. Please, stop making a fool
of yourself telling me how she should live her life.

As I said, get back to me in ten years. You may be surprised at the changes
your body can go through no matter how fit you are today.

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> On 8/10/2011 10:05 AM, Honey Badger wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:49:23 -0400, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm going to have to get one. With a telescoping arm. The
>>>> ceiling in
>>>> the living room is easily 22 ft. high.
>>> Holy cow, that's high!
>>>
>>>> The other rooms all have 9 ft. ceilings, so same problem.
>>> That's more like what I'm used to.
>>>

>> That's bullshit. There is no way in hell it's 22 feet high.
>>

>
> Why bullshit?
>
> The ceiling on our dining room is twenty feet high, higher where the
> skylights are. It is to one side of the house and extends upward two
> stories. Not at all uncommon. The story above has a balcony looking down
> into it.
>

Pay it no mind The troll probably wouldn't believe I have a skylight in
my master bathroom, either, but I do.

Jill

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On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 08:16:54 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 07:35:41 -0400, The Cook >
>wrote:
>
>> Have you checked out the stair lifts? I keep seeing the Acorn
>> commercials but have not investigated. If my back gets much worse I
>> may check them out.

>
>I haven't checked them out, but they must be *very* expensive,
>especially when turns are involved. Not every staircase is a straight
>shot up and down.
>

But may be much cheaper than having to buy a new house and move. And
if you cannot find something suitable in your existing neighborhood,
having to find new sources for stores and services is a real pain.
Where is a decent grocery store, are you close enough to use your
regular doctors?
--
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48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 08:07:38 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
> snip
>
>>
>>George is absolutely correct. It definitely gets cold in the southern
>>U.S.
>>Soon enough the frost will be on the pumpkin. And I'll be enjoying
>>sitting
>>on the patio in front of the fire pit.
>>
>>Jill

>
> I wish I knew how to type a rude noise. That sounds lovely. A fire
> pit would only be for the hardy and crazy ski people here,
> Janet US



Do it just like they did in the old comic books: Pbbbbt! LOL I like my fire
pit. I get to give the local woodcutters some business but it's not so
incredibly cold that I can't just put on a coat and enjoy it. Maybe even
toast some marshmallows

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> those woould be going to half or ebay, i think there is a decent marke t
> for those types of books, same for decorations you don't want, especially
> if you find some that you know the history of, Lee


I can't be bothered with eBay. I already gave a bunch of military books to
the Parris Island library. These are more like novels.

I'm sure I'll remember the Christmas decorations. I grew up with them and
they're nearly as old as I am, if not older. They probably still have fake
"snow" on them. (They used to sell that stuff in spray cans.) I'll find
out soon enough.

Jill

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> . Can't find what we really want, not ready to tackle building.
>>>
>>>> Who says you have to build? I don't know where you live but there are
>>>> probably lots of single storey homes on the market. (Of course if you
>>>> want everything to your specifications you can always do renovations.)
>>>
>>> I've looked and nothing in our area is suitable. Two that were nice
>>> were very nice and out of my price range. I'm not looking to buy more
>>> expensive as I get closer to retirement. After 30 years in a house and
>>> neighborhood we like, it is not easy as we will also have to leave
>>> "stuff" behind.
>>>
>>> >Not to suggest you're old or anything, but you might want to start
>>> >thinking about a single storey home. I was so grateful my parents
>>> >didn't build a house with stairs. In their later years there is no way
>>> >they could have managed them.
>>>
>>> We are getting older 66/65 and my wife has issues with stairs, thus the
>>> consideration to move.
>>>

>> 65 isn't old... not by today's standards. Maybe consider looking in a
>> different area? No one is chaining you to one spot
>>
>> I wish my someone had told my parents to leave "stuff" behind when they
>> moved here I'm still finding stuff in this house. I thought I'd gone
>> through every closet with a fine-tooth comb. Wrong! Just found a bunch
>> of old books in the hall closet. I love books, don't get me wrong. But
>> these are military books my father collected, not my usual have a cup of
>> tea and read a book sort of material. LOL I'm also going to have a
>> Christmas tree this year just so I can figure out what Christmas stuff is
>> still in the attic. I'm sure there are ornaments I haven't seen in 35
>> years. It's going to be fun to decorate for a holiday I don't really
>> observe
>>
>> Jill

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"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
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>> If you don't give a shit why do you keep morphing and showing back up
>> to dog everything I post? Asshole. You're obviously hanging on my
>> every word. Dickhead.

>
>
> JILL?!?
>
> <G>
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


What, Andy? I have a right to get angry when someone is attacking me. This
person knows nothing about my education or my economic situation. It's a
trolll, and trolls deserve to be roasted.

Jill


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> "Honey Badger" > wrote in message
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>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:49:23 -0400, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm going to have to get one. With a telescoping arm. The
>>>> ceiling in
>>>> the living room is easily 22 ft. high.
>>> Holy cow, that's high!
>>>
>>>> The other rooms all have 9 ft. ceilings, so same problem.
>>> That's more like what I'm used to.
>>>

>> That's bullshit. There is no way in hell it's 22 feet high.
>>
>> -HB (As seen on TV)
>>

> You must live in a cave. It's called a "vaulted ceiling" and you have
> no idea because you've never been here. Take a look:
>
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/...46690505QbVzFN
>
> Jill

I have vaulted ceilings and they are 12' high. I guess yours are special!

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jmcquown wrote:
>
> "Honey Badger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> "Honey Badger" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:37:39 -0400, Honey Badger
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or get an education so you don't have to live in an apartment,
>>>>>>> silly!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She did then, doesn't now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> What this person doesn't know about my education could fill
>>>>> volumes. Beside the obvious idiot troll, some people prefer
>>>>> apartment living. No lawn and yard to maintain. No worries if an
>>>>> appliance breaks; they'll fix or replace it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> This person knows that you couldn't afford it. You bitch about
>>>> pennies!
>>>>
>>>> -HB
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>
>>> BTW, I love the way you keep morphing your addy like you think I
>>> actually care. LOL

>>
>> BTW - I don't do ANYTHING for you, narcissist.
>>
>> -HB (I don't give a shit!)
>>

> If you don't give a shit why do you keep morphing and showing back up
> to dog everything I post? Asshole. You're obviously hanging on my
> every word. Dickhead.
>
> Jill

You love to respond yet you conveniently passed over this one, Jill:

You keep proving you're an idiot (as well as a fixated troll). Anyone
who has money knows they should *watch* it. If I bitch about pennies
it's because I have pennies to spend. I save money by insisting on free
shipping if I order something online. You betcha. I clip coupons for
grocery shopping, you betcha. I save money, that's why I have money.
You are an ignorant, jealous fool.

Jill

Trust me - you have nothing that makes me jealous! I haven't always
been in great shape financially, but I've NEVER taken a dime from the
public via food stamps (did you pay that back?) or anything else.

If you ever get to the point where you have a surplus of cash, you will
understand that it's fun to splurge.

-HB
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Who_me? wrote:
> On 8/10/2011 10:05 AM, Honey Badger wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:49:23 -0400, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm going to have to get one. With a telescoping arm. The
>>>> ceiling in
>>>> the living room is easily 22 ft. high.
>>> Holy cow, that's high!
>>>
>>>> The other rooms all have 9 ft. ceilings, so same problem.
>>> That's more like what I'm used to.
>>>

>> That's bullshit. There is no way in hell it's 22 feet high.
>>

>
> Why bullshit?
>
> The ceiling on our dining room is twenty feet high, higher where the
> skylights are. It is to one side of the house and extends upward two
> stories. Not at all uncommon. The story above has a balcony looking
> down into it.


She's got a on-story house with a vaulted ceiling.

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"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you don't give a shit why do you keep morphing and showing back
>>>> up to dog everything I post? Asshole. You're obviously hanging on
>>>> my every word. Dickhead.
>>>
>>>
>>> JILL?!?
>>>
>>> <G>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy

>>
>> What, Andy? I have a right to get angry when someone is attacking me.
>> This person knows nothing about my education or my economic
>> situation. It's a trolll, and trolls deserve to be roasted.

>
>
> Jill,
>
> You must forgive me. I don't get cross-posted articles.
>
> I'm on your side!
>
> Your cursing just took me a bit by surprise, you being so mild mannered
> mostly all of the time.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


I didn't cross-post. Maybe someone is bcc'ing the group. Mild mannered? I
was raised in a military household. Shouting and cursing is right up there
with godliness.

Jill

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> outstanding, i have been fitzing with what to get for the house, we don't
> entertain at home much, and we were planning a breakfast bar, so i saw
> little/no need for kitchen table, this really might work, Lee



No one can really tell you want you're going to want to live with for years
to come. I really like having an eat-in kitchen. I have a separate dining
room but it's rarely used. When my brother built his house he put in a
breakfast bar. I don't know about you but I hated climbing up on tall bar
stools to eat at a counter overlooking the sink and the dirty pots and pans.
I'd rather have an actual table and chairs.

Jill

> "cshenk" > wrote in message
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>> Storrmmee wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>>> i can't see it at all but the dh and my best female friend can so i
>>> will get a good description, thank you so much, this is sounding like
>>> the ideal for me, Lee "Janet Wilder" > wrote
>>> in message b.com...
>>> > On 10/7/2011 1:13 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>>> > > just outstanding, thanks a llot, now tell me about that table
>>> > > wine rack, Lee
>>> >>"Janet > wrote in message
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Here's a photo. I don't know if you can blow it up enough to be
>>> > able to see it.
>>> >
>>> > http://i54.tinypic.com/2d6nnfq.jpg
>>> >
>>> > -- Janet Wilder
>>> > Way-the-heck-south Texas
>>> > Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

>>
>> It's mostly iron below with a probably 3/4 inch thick wood top. Below
>> is a wine rack that appears to hold 14 bottles. The feet of the unit
>> are clawfooted iron?
>>
>> She has some sort of dried flower arrangement on top and a bunch of
>> pictures. It lookes like without those, this would be a nifty small
>> apartment piece near a door for catching gloves and mail and such on
>> top. Below the wine holder part is an almost bandeau looking sinched
>> in part where it looks like a glass plate could fit to hold wine
>> glasses or a slide rack could be to suspend them below. There's no
>> evidence of either wine glass holder in the picture, but the potential
>> is there.
>>
>>
>> --
>>

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On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:27:00 -0400, Honey Badger
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>jmcquown wrote:
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>I have vaulted ceilings and they are 12' high.


Better to hang yourself.
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>jmcquown wrote:


>> Jill

>You love to respond yet you conveniently passed over this one, Jill:


Avoiding your stench is not out of convenince, it's out of necessity.
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> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:27:00 -0400, Honey Badger
> > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>

>
>
>> I have vaulted ceilings and they are 12' high.

>
> Better to hang yourself.


I have twelve foot ceilings and love, i mean like, them. The exercise room
has plenty of head space for the treadmill and lifting weights while
working out. I like the extra space in the kitchen above the tall cabinets
is a great to place for the sound system speakers and felt flower
decorations on top of the cabinets. I put the seasonal cooking equipment in
the upper parts of cabinets like the canning equipment. The closet space in
bedrooms provides extra storage space for storing winter / summer items. I
do keep a small storable step stool in each closet and in the kitchen. The
laundry room has wire racks above the washing machine and dryer for
temporarily hanging up the clothes on and storing bulk laundry supplies.
Ceiling fans that easily high enough without raising your arms and touching
the fan blades.

What I do not have are great rooms, kitchen and dinning room and other
rooms are separated by walls.

If I choose to end it... An over dose of Viagra at a Bordello.

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>No one can really tell you want you're going to want to live with for years
>to come. I really like having an eat-in kitchen. I have a separate dining
>room but it's rarely used. When my brother built his house he put in a
>breakfast bar. I don't know about you but I hated climbing up on tall bar
>stools to eat at a counter overlooking the sink and the dirty pots and pans.
>I'd rather have an actual table and chairs.


Nowadays ones dining room table is often their pc desk. When home
alone I rarely eat at my kitchen table... I have a large "L" shaped
desk, there's plenty of space for all my electronics and for me and my
cats to dine.... I even keep extra eating utensils in my desk drawer
so in case I forget I don't need to get up and walk to the kitchen, or
my pork chop may literally grow legs and make a mad dash under a bed.
LOL

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> On 8/10/2011 4:33 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> besides, going directly against what all the evidence on aging and
>> related
>> accidents alone tells anyone with sense that every year you manage to
>> live
>> is another year closer to being safe and not using stairs, Lee

>
> Nonsense. Elderly people who get small amounts of regular exercise are
> much healthier. For instance those who walk daily are noticeably fitter
> than those who either sit at home or only drive cars.
>


I walk around the block. Occasionally I ride my bicycle. But I don't want
to climb stairs in my house. I prefer one level, thanks.

Jill

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> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:28:36 -0400, Honey Badger
> > wrote:
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>>jmcquown wrote:

>
>>> Jill

>>You love to respond yet you conveniently passed over this one, Jill:

>
> Avoiding your stench is not out of convenince, it's out of necessity.


LOL And I didn't see what it posted because it's in my killfile.

Jill

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> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:27:00 -0400, Honey Badger
> > wrote:
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>>jmcquown wrote:
>>>

>
>
>>I have vaulted ceilings and they are 12' high.

>
> Better to hang yourself.
>

(my comments are not directed at you, Sheldon) Vaulted means in has wooden
beams in the ceiling. But hey, I'm impressed... 12 feet. Wow. I'm
impressed.

Jill

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> "jmcquown" wrote:
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>>No one can really tell you want you're going to want to live with for
>>years
>>to come. I really like having an eat-in kitchen. I have a separate
>>dining
>>room but it's rarely used. When my brother built his house he put in a
>>breakfast bar. I don't know about you but I hated climbing up on tall bar
>>stools to eat at a counter overlooking the sink and the dirty pots and
>>pans.
>>I'd rather have an actual table and chairs.

>
> Nowadays ones dining room table is often their pc desk.


> alone I rarely eat at my kitchen table... I have a large "L" shaped
> desk, there's plenty of space for all my electronics (snippage)
>

Not in my house. My desk is in the corner of the living room. I just don't
use the formal dining room often. I don't use the good china or the good
silverware often, either.

I eat at the kitchen table all the time.

Jill



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> I walk around the block. Occasionally I ride my bicycle. But I don't
> want to climb stairs in my house. I prefer one level, thanks.
>

A friend of mine broke her leg and could not do the stairs in their home.
The only bathtubs and showers were upstairs. I don't know (or care) what
she weighs but it took her husband and two neighbors to haul her up for bath
time. Another friend had hip replacement. She had to sit on her stairs and
haul herself up one step at a time. She was a good sport about it and their
4 dogs thought it was big fun. I'm sure both of them didn't realize that
having only a half-bath on the first floor could spell such trouble. Polly

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On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:56:10 -0500, "Polly Esther"
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>"jmcquown" <>
>> I walk around the block. Occasionally I ride my bicycle. But I don't
>> want to climb stairs in my house. I prefer one level, thanks.
>>

>A friend of mine broke her leg and could not do the stairs in their home.
>The only bathtubs and showers were upstairs. I don't know (or care) what
>she weighs but it took her husband and two neighbors to haul her up for bath
>time. Another friend had hip replacement. She had to sit on her stairs and
>haul herself up one step at a time. She was a good sport about it and their
>4 dogs thought it was big fun. I'm sure both of them didn't realize that
>having only a half-bath on the first floor could spell such trouble. Polly


This sounds like a contrived fairy tale... all one needs is a sink, a
bar of soap and a wash cloth to take a bird bath... which is typical
with ones leg in a cast.
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> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:56:10 -0500, "Polly Esther"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" <>
>>> I walk around the block. Occasionally I ride my bicycle. But I don't
>>> want to climb stairs in my house. I prefer one level, thanks.
>>>

>>A friend of mine broke her leg and could not do the stairs in their home.
>>The only bathtubs and showers were upstairs. I don't know (or care) what
>>she weighs but it took her husband and two neighbors to haul her up for
>>bath
>>time. Another friend had hip replacement. She had to sit on her stairs
>>and
>>haul herself up one step at a time. She was a good sport about it and
>>their
>>4 dogs thought it was big fun. I'm sure both of them didn't realize that
>>having only a half-bath on the first floor could spell such trouble.
>>Polly

>
> This sounds like a contrived fairy tale... all one needs is a sink, a
> bar of soap and a wash cloth to take a bird bath... which is typical
> with ones leg in a cast.



Sure, that's all one needs... but it's not exactly the most satisfying way
to bathe. I like to take a nice hot shower. And I have hair, so I wash it.

When my parents built this house Mom thought a deep jetted tub was the way
to go. It was de rigeur (HGTV didn't even exist back then). She was only
about 10 years older than I am now. It got to the point where the tub was
too tall for her to step into. Hell, it's hard for me to step into. I got
a handle that attaches to the side of the tub so I can hold onto something
and get in and out of it easily. Face it, when you're 20, 30, 40, you don't
think about stuff like this. People don't plan on getting old. That's a
big mistake.

Jill

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"jmcquown" wrote:
>"Brooklyn1" wrote:
>> "Polly Esther" wrote:
>>>"jmcquown"
>>>> I walk around the block. Occasionally I ride my bicycle. But I don't
>>>> want to climb stairs in my house. I prefer one level, thanks.
>>>>
>>>A friend of mine broke her leg and could not do the stairs in their home.
>>>The only bathtubs and showers were upstairs. I don't know (or care) what
>>>she weighs but it took her husband and two neighbors to haul her up for
>>>bath
>>>time. Another friend had hip replacement. She had to sit on her stairs
>>>and
>>>haul herself up one step at a time. She was a good sport about it and
>>>their
>>>4 dogs thought it was big fun. I'm sure both of them didn't realize that
>>>having only a half-bath on the first floor could spell such trouble.
>>>Polly

>>
>> This sounds like a contrived fairy tale... all one needs is a sink, a
>> bar of soap and a wash cloth to take a bird bath... which is typical
>> with ones leg in a cast.

>
>
>Sure, that's all one needs... but it's not exactly the most satisfying way
>to bathe. I like to take a nice hot shower. And I have hair, so I wash it.


True, but with one's leg in a cast a bath and even a shower isn't
practical... no matter how one tapes plastic bags they will invariably
leak. And hair can be washed in a sink, hair salons only wash hair in
a sink... most kitchen sinks nowadays have a sprayer hose, so in an
emergency it more than suffices. My bath shower head is detachable,
I've leaned over the tub to wash my hair with the hand held shower...
and the hand held shower makes cleaning the tub a breeze. I used to
have a WaterPic hand held but after many years it died, the plastic
body cracked and couldn't be sealed with glue, so I bought one made by
Delta, it's the best one I've ever used anywhere... anyone needs a new
shower head this is the one:
http://www.amazon.com/Faucet-75580-I...8256118&sr=8-3

>When my parents built this house Mom thought a deep jetted tub was the way
>to go. It was de rigeur (HGTV didn't even exist back then). She was only
>about 10 years older than I am now. It got to the point where the tub was
>too tall for her to step into. Hell, it's hard for me to step into. I got
>a handle that attaches to the side of the tub so I can hold onto something
>and get in and out of it easily. Face it, when you're 20, 30, 40, you don't
>think about stuff like this. People don't plan on getting old. That's a
>big mistake.


Well, no one knows what the future has in store, one can become
debilitated at any age. I try to keep as much as possible easy
maintenence both inside and outside. I see no use for a jetted tub at
home (probably yoose gals luv em), just something that takes more
effort to clean and maintain, and if a pump dies can be a nightmare...
I only shower anyway... I think the last time I took a tub bath at
home I was five years old... I've taken spa baths at hotels but to be
honest I don't see the point, they are a big waste of hot water and I
don't want to soak in my own dirty bath water.
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> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:27:00 -0400, Honey Badger
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>

>>
>>
>>> I have vaulted ceilings and they are 12' high.

>>
>> Better to hang yourself.
>>

> (my comments are not directed at you, Sheldon) Vaulted means in has
> wooden beams in the ceiling. But hey, I'm impressed... 12 feet.
> Wow. I'm impressed.
>
> Jill

That's not what vaulted means, stupid!

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> If I choose to end it... An over dose of Viagra at a Bordello.
>
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Ha- I thought you were a female, like Nad as in Nadine. Fooled ME.

I have a friend who had kitchen cabinets which were one straight door
and about 16 foot ceilings, or so it seemed. I used to say that he
could hide money on the top shelves - no burglar cud see anything up
that high or take the time to find an extension ladder.
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:05:13 -0400, Honey Badger
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> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Vaulted means in has
> > wooden beams in the ceiling. But hey, I'm impressed... 12 feet.
> > Wow. I'm impressed.
> >
> > Jill

> That's not what vaulted means, stupid!
>

I doubt she's been to as many open houses as you've been to, but
you're right that beams don't mean vaulted - although exposed beams
can be an architectural feature of a modern vaulted ceiling.

exposed beams
http://www.ladolcevitaranch.com/280_...g?u=2130790453
http://logmode.com/logmode/galleries...er_bedroom.jpg

not exposed
http://hookedonhouses.net/wp-content...ed-ceiling.jpg
http://www.rjmayerdevelopment.com/WI...%20CEILING.jpg
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Kalmia > wrote:
> On Oct 9, 10:58 am, Nad > wrote:
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>>
>> If I choose to end it... An over dose of Viagra at a Bordello.
>>
>> --
>> Enjoy Life... Nad

>
> Ha- I thought you were a female, like Nad as in Nadine. Fooled ME.
>
> I have a friend who had kitchen cabinets which were one straight door
> and about 16 foot ceilings, or so it seemed. I used to say that he
> could hide money on the top shelves - no burglar cud see anything up
> that high or take the time to find an extension ladder.


Just for the record, my real name has nothing to do with Nad or Dan.
I am a male and never married. I learn from my friends that divorce cost a
whole lot more than prostitutes.

I have no money hidden in the walls, all invested in my home and property.

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On Oct 10, 8:04*pm, Nad > wrote:
> Kalmia > wrote:
> > On Oct 9, 10:58 am, Nad > wrote:

>
> >> If I choose to end it... An over dose of Viagra at a Bordello.


> > Ha- I thought you were a female, like Nad as in Nadine. *Fooled ME.


> I have no money hidden in the walls, all invested in my home and property..


Go, Nad. (Was I close?)
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:04:01 +0000 (UTC), Nad
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> Just for the record, my real name has nothing to do with Nad or Dan.


Hey! When you first came here you said Nad spelled backwards was your
name.
> I am a male and never married. I learn from my friends that divorce cost a
> whole lot more than prostitutes.

That's certainly true.
>
> I have no money hidden in the walls, all invested in my home and property.


But you can tell all your friends that you have money in the walls and
on your property and you wouldn't be lying.
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sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:04:01 +0000 (UTC), Nad
> > wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, my real name has nothing to do with Nad or Dan.

>
> Hey! When you first came here you said Nad spelled backwards was your
> name.
>> I am a male and never married. I learn from my friends that divorce cost a
>> whole lot more than prostitutes.

> That's certainly true.
>>
>> I have no money hidden in the walls, all invested in my home and property.

>
> But you can tell all your friends that you have money in the walls and
> on your property and you wouldn't be lying.


From time to time, I change my name on the net, I use to go by the name Dan
in the past here and elsewhere. But my name is not Dan, it use to be
another handle. Dave was before Dan over ten years ago and Dave is not my
name.

One thing that has been consistent is I am a Male and live somewhere in
Michigan, use to live in the city and now in the boondocks with very few
neighbors and now retired. My best friend is a Yorkie.

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Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:34:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad wrote:
>
>> From time to time, I change my name on the net, I use to go by the name Dan
>> in the past here and elsewhere. But my name is not Dan, it use to be
>> another handle. Dave was before Dan over ten years ago and Dave is not my
>> name.
>>
>> One thing that has been consistent is I am a Male and live somewhere in
>> Michigan, use to live in the city and now in the boondocks with very few
>> neighbors and now retired. My best friend is a Yorkie.

>
> So why do you feel the need to keep changing your name? Most of us
> are genuine and don't morph every few years to shed our past
> transgressions. We are genuine.
>
> You, OTOH, well... lets just say I don't have much respect for people
> that keep morphing covertly.
>
> -sw


Without anonymity, one cannot truly say what they believe. Large numbers of
people want to squelch free speech. People only respect those that think
like themselves. As an atheist, I would be dead by now by many religious
nut jobs.
Respect... That is funny

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:19:52 +0000 (UTC), Nad wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:34:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad wrote:
>>
>>> From time to time, I change my name on the net, I use to go by the name Dan
>>> in the past here and elsewhere. But my name is not Dan, it use to be
>>> another handle. Dave was before Dan over ten years ago and Dave is not my
>>> name.
>>>
>>> One thing that has been consistent is I am a Male and live somewhere in
>>> Michigan, use to live in the city and now in the boondocks with very few
>>> neighbors and now retired. My best friend is a Yorkie.

>>
>> So why do you feel the need to keep changing your name? Most of us
>> are genuine and don't morph every few years to shed our past
>> transgressions. We are genuine.
>>
>> You, OTOH, well... lets just say I don't have much respect for people
>> that keep morphing covertly.
>>
>> -sw

>
> Without anonymity, one cannot truly say what they believe.


Oh, gimme a break. It doesn't stop me. And even if you were still
using your name of 10+ users ago, it was anonymous as well. Look at
people like 'sf' and 'Lou', who have been using the same nick for
years 'anonymously.

And of course you can always use a one-off, like so.

All that you wrote is a cop out to cover up some sort of prior
embarrassment and paranoia.

> Large numbers of
> people want to squelch free speech. People only respect those that think
> like themselves. As an atheist, I would be dead by now by many religious
> nut jobs.


I frequently announce my atheism, and nobody has killed me yet
[sheesh]. And I've even taken it one step further.

-ps
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Pea Shooter > wrote:
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> Oh, gimme a break. It doesn't stop me. And even if you were still
> using your name of 10+ users ago, it was anonymous as well. Look at
> people like 'sf' and 'Lou', who have been using the same nick for
> years 'anonymously.
>
> And of course you can always use a one-off, like so.
>
> All that you wrote is a cop out to cover up some sort of prior
> embarrassment and paranoia.
>
> I frequently announce my atheism, and nobody has killed me yet
> [sheesh]. And I've even taken it one step further.
>
> -ps


Hypocrite, "Pea Shooter", with a fake email address and fake name.
Yea, I bet you never had fist fights as well over your views. What a
hypocrite!

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Pea Shooter > wrote:
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> [sheesh]. And I've even taken it one step further.
>
> -ps


Hypocrite, "Pea Shooter",
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On 10/11/2011 9:18 AM, Pea Shooter wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:19:52 +0000 (UTC), Nad wrote:
>


>
> I frequently announce my atheism, and nobody has killed me yet
> [sheesh]. And I've even taken it one step further.
>


Why, in heaven's name, do you feel it necessary, in a cooking ng, to
proclaim that you are an atheist?


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James Silverton > wrote:
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>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:19:52 +0000 (UTC), Nad wrote:
>>

>
>>
>> I frequently announce my atheism, and nobody has killed me yet
>> [sheesh]. And I've even taken it one step further.
>>

>
> Why, in heaven's name, do you feel it necessary, in a cooking ng, to
> proclaim that you are an atheist?
>


Threads drift into oblivion as time goes by, you should know this by now
It is also a good sign that the thread will soon end.


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:05:13 -0400, Honey Badger
> > wrote:
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>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> > Vaulted means in has
>> > wooden beams in the ceiling. But hey, I'm impressed... 12 feet.
>> > Wow. I'm impressed.
>> >
>> > Jill

>> That's not what vaulted means, stupid!
>>

> I doubt she's been to as many open houses as you've been to, but
> you're right that beams don't mean vaulted - although exposed beams
> can be an architectural feature of a modern vaulted ceiling.
>
>

Barbara, why are you encouraging this person? Maybe I should have said it's
a "cathedral" ceiling. It's still 22 ft. tall. I have a skylight in my
master bathroom, too, and one in my garage.

Jill

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:41:00 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> And I'm not saying you need to use your real name. Just pick a name
> and stick with it rather than changing it all the time covertly. I've
> changed my name slightly over the years, but everybody still knows
> it's me, and my real name (if you've been around long enough or ask
> the right people).
>
> Speaking of which, I have Stu killfiled, but did he finally move on?
> Did he finally give us the slip and is posting under another pseudonym
> unnoticed?
>
> -sw


stu's lawyers decided it would be best if he were involuntarily committed
to prevent him from harming himself.

your pal,
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> When we sell this - shortly - we will buy another multi story home,
> though maybe a little smaller.


Be sure you have a room which you can convert to a bedroom in a hurry
and a full bathroom on the first floor. You never know when a broken
leg etc. can make those stairs a nightmare.

Good luck selling, btw,
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