On Sep 25, 11:40*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:08:32 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
> > thought I was in the A. I. group!
>
> A. I. ?
>
>
American Idol.

On Sep 25, 8:34*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Lee wrote:
> > if you take one cooking class from a reputable school you learn all of
> > that science stuff
>
> This is simply not true. People take YEARS to acquire that kind of
> knowledge, and some of the people on the forefront (e.g. Harold McGee and
> Shirley Corriher) are still experimenting and learning after thirty years..
>
> Bob

>
>
True, true. Shirley is sharp as a tack and I love it when she makes
appearances on Alton's show. But people tend to miss out on these
little gems when Disney and American Idol are their normal tv fare.

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> Cheri wrote:
>
>>Just ignore it Judy, there are always a
>> few in every group. :-)
>
> Thanks, Cheri.....for a minute I almost forgot what group I was in and
> thought I was in the A. I. group! =:-}


Yes, and I always enjoy your recipes. Maybe a sock or two here? ;-)

Cheri

Cheri wrote:

>Yes, and I always enjoy your recipes.
> Maybe a sock or two here? ;-)

OMG, do you think "Ryan" likes cooking and is here posting also?! LOL

Judy

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:42:26 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
> wrote:

> On Sep 25, 11:40*pm, sf > wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:08:32 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > thought I was in the A. I. group!
> >
> > A. I. ?
> >
> >
> American Idol.

Thanks, I never would have guessed.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

you are rude and now vulgar

Lee
"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 2:31 pm, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> totally disagree, 99 percent of tv is a waste, nothing to be afraid of if
> you can turn it off, if you take one cooking class from a reputable school
> you learn all of that science stuff,
>
>
Bull shit.
>
>
> and experience teaches most of it as
> well, tv is for the most part something that should entertain and educate
> if
> you haven't had the oppertunity to learn it from a real source of
> education... ymmv
>
>
Your statements already prove you don't watch to tv to even know
what's offered. Your comments are meaningless until you can comment
with some authority. Being a Disney fan doesn't qualify.

i find it fascinating that when someone disagrees with your opinion, and
thats all it is, that you immediately resort to vulgarity as in your
response to me, or personal attacks as in this response to judy, in case you
hadn't noticed, this group is to voice opinions and discus specific problems
about specific cooking situations, i am sorry this is stressing you to the
point of attack, for someone so sure of your opinions it might be nice if
you at least restrained yourself from vulgarity and personal attacks as you
know neither one of us or what our lives are about... and if you respond
that you have read enough to make inferences... i could then do so but mine
about you would be almost as rude as what you have just posted and you/your
opinions aren't worth lowering myself to that level,

Lee
"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 3:52 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> Storrmmee wrote:
> >totally disagree, 99 percent of tv is a
> > waste, nothing to be afraid of if you can
> > turn it off, if you take one cooking class
> > from a reputable school you learn all of
> > that science stuff, and experience
> > teaches most of it as well, tv is for the
> > most part something that should
> > entertain and educate if you haven't had
> > the oppertunity to learn it from a real
> > source of education... ymmv
>
> And.....I completely agree with you! TV has never been a big part of my
> life, as would much rather read, be on my computer, or just spending
> time with my family and friends. When I do have some time to just sit
> and be a couch potato <G> then I want to watch something that will
> entertain me....a "no-brainer" show, that will make me smile and feel
> good, such as I particularly enjoy "Glee", "Drop Dead Diva", "Project
> Runway", etc.
>
>
Now we know.
>
>
> I started cooking/baking when I was 9 years old and joined a 4-H Club,
> and belonged for 4 years, so I got my basic knowledge there, and through
> several years of taking Home Economics in school, but most of what I got
> was hand's on from a fantastic cook and baker....my dear mother. I also
> have been an avid cookbook collector all my life and hubby built 5 long
> shelves in our storage room for them, and they are completely filled. I
> read them, as one would a bible.
>
> I have won several blue ribbons in local baking contests, and I'm going
> to be 71 years old next month, so I'm not a novice in the kitchen, but I
> don't boost certainly that I know it all.
>
> Judy
>
>
All this experience and blue ribbons and you don't know why your
cookies crumble?? Tsk, tsk. Sounds like a lot of smoke and mirrors
to me.

judy post those orange cookies please, Lee
"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
>
>>All this experience and blue ribbons and
>> you don't know why your cookies
>> crumble?? Tsk, tsk. Sounds like a lot of
>> smoke and mirrors to me.
>
> You really must be a very sarcastic person, as I only found the cooking
> group just this week, and have noticed most of your posts are of a
> "snippy" nature. Do you ever offer advice without putting the person
> down in negative manner? Just asking! <shrug>
>
> FYI winning blue ribbons has nothing to do with asking for a T&T
> chocolate chip cookie that is chewy in texture, instead of hard and
> crisp, or light and fragile. I never said my cookies crumbled. I won a
> blue ribbon on my filled mincemeat cookies and also my fresh orange
> frosted cookies. I have been baking cookies since I was in grade school
> with great results, but for some reason the last few times I made CC
> Cookies I was disappointed because they didn't seem to be the exact
> texture I wanted them to be, but I know that many products have changed
> their ingredients too, as Crisco is a lot "greasier" feeling on my hands
> as I remembered it to be, and I've had better results with certain
> brands of butter than others also, which makes a big difference in any
> type of baking.
>
> Judy
>

this is an excellent group, and there are a LOT of nice people here, you
will eventually over time, as you have already noticed with some posters,
find a pattern of posting, this is a very valuable tool due to th e volume
of postings, simply use the kf button when someone gets to annoying/vulgar
or disgusting, keeps the experience cleaner and more on topic,

although i must admit in the interest of full disclosure, there a few i
don't block because they are simply to silly and entertaining to block.. Lee
"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> Cheri wrote:
>
>>Just ignore it Judy, there are always a
>> few in every group. :-)
>
> Thanks, Cheri.....for a minute I almost forgot what group I was in and
> thought I was in the A. I. group! =:-}
>
> I was tickled to find this group, as cooking 'n' baking have always been
> my most favorite pastime, and enjoy talking to other happy cookers!
>
> Judy
>

only until your postings become un entertaining, when you quit being funny
there is no requirement to reading your posts, you contrary to your opinion
of yourself are such a small part of the group that reading you or not
changes the value of reading here only a small bit, and since i don't read
here to laugh at people, you are of no value, except that right now i am
extremely bored, Lee
"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 10:08 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
> >Just ignore it Judy, there are always a
> > few in every group. :-)
>
> Thanks, Cheri.....for a minute I almost forgot what group I was in and
> thought I was in the A. I. group! =:-}
>
> I was tickled to find this group, as cooking 'n' baking have always been
> my most favorite pastime, and enjoy talking to other happy cookers!
>
> Judy

>
>
Both of you will have to deal with it.

well that explains a lot, how educational is that for a program, recipes for
what i wonder? Lee
"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 11:40 pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:08:32 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
> > thought I was in the A. I. group!
>
> A. I. ?
>
>
American Idol.

oh my and i thought I was bored, to track when people come and go on this
group... my life doesn't suck at all!!!

LOLLOLLOL, Lee
"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 7:14 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
> >All this experience and blue ribbons and
> > you don't know why your cookies
> > crumble?? Tsk, tsk. Sounds like a lot of
> > smoke and mirrors to me.
>
> You really must be a very sarcastic person, as I only found the cooking
> group just this week, and have noticed most of your posts are of a
> "snippy" nature. Do you ever offer advice without putting the person
> down in negative manner? Just asking! <shrug>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
September 18 to be exact. Deal with the snippiness. <shrug>

i was referring to what one could learn on tv, knowing a process is vastly
different from developing skills from knowing about it, i am sure one simple
class doesn't make one an expert on any particular skill set, cooking or
not, but to claim that veiwing a tv show does the same is really silly, and
that was my point, i didn't mean to infer that years ow work and practice
was discounted, as you know, i can tell from the recipes you post,
experience in general and experimintation, are the only way to improve
skills,

I hope tha t makes sense,

Lee
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
b.com...
> Lee wrote:
>
>> if you take one cooking class from a reputable school you learn all of
>> that science stuff
>
> This is simply not true. People take YEARS to acquire that kind of
> knowledge, and some of the people on the forefront (e.g. Harold McGee and
> Shirley Corriher) are still experimenting and learning after thirty years.
>
> Bob
>
>

and your attching yourself to bob's post doesn't reduce your vulgarity or
attempts to improve your status in your own eyes... just because he
responded with a civilized disagreement to me, in no way validates you, your
opinion or your rude manner of posting, Lee
"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 8:34 pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Lee wrote:
> > if you take one cooking class from a reputable school you learn all of
> > that science stuff
>
> This is simply not true. People take YEARS to acquire that kind of
> knowledge, and some of the people on the forefront (e.g. Harold McGee and
> Shirley Corriher) are still experimenting and learning after thirty years.
>
> Bob

>
>
True, true. Shirley is sharp as a tack and I love it when she makes
appearances on Alton's show. But people tend to miss out on these
little gems when Disney and American Idol are their normal tv fare.

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:20:05 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:04:56 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 24, 8:37*pm, sf > wrote:
>> > On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:20:29 -0600, "gloria.p" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Alton Brown had a show years ago that featured three different recipes
>> > > for chocolate chip cookies: crisp, chewy, or soft.
>> >
>> > I saw that one too.
>> >
>> >
>> Add me to the 'me, too.' And I'd read somewhere after seeing his show
>> that the dark brown sugar is what gives the cookies that nice chewy
>> texture. Yummmm.
>
>I need to remember that the next time I make chocolate chip cookies,
>(because I usually switch it out for plain white) and see if it makes
>a difference.

Brown sugar (molasses) and chocolate clash (TIAD alert)... amazing how
many actually have their taste buds in their rectum.

> "ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
> ...

> On Sep 25, 10:08 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>> Cheri wrote:
>> >Just ignore it Judy, there are always a
>> > few in every group. :-)
>>
>> Thanks, Cheri.....for a minute I almost forgot what group I was in and
>> thought I was in the A. I. group! =:-}
>>
>> I was tickled to find this group, as cooking 'n' baking have always been
>> my most favorite pastime, and enjoy talking to other happy cookers!
>>
>> Judy
>
>>
>>
> Both of you will have to deal with it.

Ha, ha, ha...as if. You sound a lot like the *web tv'er* that came from the
web tv group and started ragging on Judy in the AI group last season.

Cheri

"ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
news:72108cea-a231-4ae8-b033-

True, true. Shirley is sharp as a tack and I love it when she makes
appearances on Alton's show. But people tend to miss out on these
little gems when Disney and American Idol are their normal tv fare.

=========

LMAO, all these insults coming from *web tv* land no less. Bite me.

Cheri

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:34:57 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> merryb wrote:
>>> My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>>
>> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
>> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
>> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
>> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
>> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
>> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
>> know.
>
>Hmmmm. And thus your fixation?

A perfectly healthy fixation... and my contribution to Green Jobs.
And now we know what southerners mean by "Well shut my mouth". And
yes, I'm a southerner... South Central Brooklyn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravesend,_Brooklyn

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:06:12 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> Brown sugar (molasses) and chocolate clash (TIAD alert)... amazing how
> many actually have their taste buds in their rectum.

It's amazing what bad taste someone who can't stop using a stupid
acronym like TIAD has.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:15:57 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:34:57 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> merryb wrote:
>>>> My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>>>
>>> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
>>> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
>>> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
>>> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
>>> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
>>> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
>>> know.
>>
>>Hmmmm. And thus your fixation?
>
>A perfectly healthy fixation... and my contribution to Green Jobs.
>And now we know what southerners mean by "Well shut my mouth". And
>yes, I'm a southerner... South Central Brooklyn.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravesend,_Brooklyn

Wow... if you click on the picture in the upper right hand corner
you'll clearly see a nursing mother and child:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WM...avesendBay.jpg

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:39:27 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> and your attching yourself to bob's post doesn't reduce your vulgarity or
> attempts to improve your status in your own eyes... just because he
> responded with a civilized disagreement to me, in no way validates you, your
> opinion or your rude manner of posting, Lee

I think you're better suited for the British group - where they take
offense when none is intended.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:19:19 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> you are rude and now vulgar

You need a ng more like nursery school.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:23:10 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> All this experience and blue ribbons and you don't know why your
> cookies crumble??

You're quick to call her rude, I guesss it takes one to know one.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:27:43 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> when someone gets to annoying/vulgar
> or disgusting, keeps the experience cleaner and more on topic,
>
> although i must admit in the interest of full disclosure, there a few i
> don't block because they are simply to silly and entertaining to block.. Lee

What a load of crap.


--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Sep 25, 4:35*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> merryb wrote:
>
> >My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>
> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. *My mom used to hide her
> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
> mistake. hehe *My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
> know.

LOL- Now we know where your breast obsession started!

what is hillarious is that dh and find disney the most pallateable, sp of
all tv fare, cooking shows are somewha t down the list, the fact that
someone who has such a high opinion of herself wants to throw insults cracks
me up, you would think someone so very important would have better things to
do like say stalking judy and tracking where/when she posts, Lee
"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "ItsJoanNotJoann" > wrote in message
> news:72108cea-a231-4ae8-b033-
>
> True, true. Shirley is sharp as a tack and I love it when she makes
> appearances on Alton's show. But people tend to miss out on these
> little gems when Disney and American Idol are their normal tv fare.
>
> =========
>
> LMAO, all these insults coming from *web tv* land no less. Bite me.
>
> Cheri

sorta creepy isn't it? Lee
"merryb" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 4:35 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> merryb wrote:
>
> >My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>
> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
> know.

LOL- Now we know where your breast obsession started!

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

>On Sep 25, 4:35*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> merryb wrote:
>>
>> >My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>>
>> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. *My mom used to hide her
>> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
>> mistake. hehe *My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
>> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
>> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
>> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
>> know.
>
>LOL- Now we know where your breast obsession started!

Well, apparently just about everyone has a breast obsession, men and
women, women much moreso. Women talk to other women's chests more
than men do... women are truly obsessesed with their own breasts, even
since before they have any. When women look in the mirror the first
thing they concentrate on is their breasts, especially when checking
how their clothes fit. No women ever tentively asks "Does this top
make my breasts look too big?" Difference is I'm honest enough to
admit it.

On Sep 26, 9:32*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 25, 4:35 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> merryb wrote:
>
> >> >My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>
> >> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
> >> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
> >> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
> >> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
> >> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
> >> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
> >> know.
>
> >LOL- Now we know where your breast obsession started!
>
> Well, apparently just about everyone has a breast obsession, men and
> women, women much moreso. *Women talk to other women's chests more
> than men do... women are truly obsessesed with their own breasts, even
> since before they have any. *When women look in the mirror the first
> thing they concentrate on is their breasts, especially when checking
> how their clothes fit. *No women ever tentively asks "Does this top
> make my breasts look too big?" *Difference is I'm honest enough to
> admit it.

LOL- agree with some of your points, but if I had a huge chest, I
would probably want to minimize them. Alas, I will never have that
problem...

trust me when i tell you, the larger size is not worth th e backache, Lees
"merryb" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 26, 9:32 am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 25, 4:35 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> merryb wrote:
>
> >> >My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>
> >> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
> >> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
> >> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
> >> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
> >> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
> >> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
> >> know.
>
> >LOL- Now we know where your breast obsession started!
>
> Well, apparently just about everyone has a breast obsession, men and
> women, women much moreso. Women talk to other women's chests more
> than men do... women are truly obsessesed with their own breasts, even
> since before they have any. When women look in the mirror the first
> thing they concentrate on is their breasts, especially when checking
> how their clothes fit. No women ever tentively asks "Does this top
> make my breasts look too big?" Difference is I'm honest enough to
> admit it.

LOL- agree with some of your points, but if I had a huge chest, I
would probably want to minimize them. Alas, I will never have that
problem...

On Sep 25, 1:05*am, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> ItsJoanNotJoann wrote
>
> >Oh my heavens! Where have you been
> > girl?? No cable or satellite for
> >your tv????
>
> No satellite dish, but do have cable and get LOTS of channels, but I
> never watch daytime TV, except occasionally will watch the judge shows
> (in part) that are on in the morning, but not for long. I watch very
> little TV, as are other things I'd rather do.
>
> Depending on how many years ago this guy was on TV too, as went from '74
> to '87 without TV, as just felt it was better for our four kids to not
> be staring at the boob tube all the time, and they thanked us later for
> having the cable disconnected. Hubby and I sure never missed it, but now
> I would, but I'm still very selective what I watch, and don't watch any
> of the cooking shows, etc.
>
> Judy

Don't check in with the cooking channel much, huh. Alton Brown is the
host of Iron Chef America. It's on weekly. He also had a "dining on
asphalt" series (traveling alongside the Mississippi River on a
motorcycle) - used to have "Good Eats," which was a "what is that and
why is it doing that" kind of cooking show - like the reactions among
ingredients and why things work the way they do in cooking.

N.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:37:09 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

>On Sep 26, 9:32*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sep 25, 4:35 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> >> merryb wrote:
>>
>> >> >My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>>
>> >> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
>> >> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
>> >> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
>> >> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
>> >> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
>> >> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
>> >> know.
>>
>> >LOL- Now we know where your breast obsession started!
>>
>> Well, apparently just about everyone has a breast obsession, men and
>> women, women much moreso. *Women talk to other women's chests more
>> than men do... women are truly obsessesed with their own breasts, even
>> since before they have any. *When women look in the mirror the first
>> thing they concentrate on is their breasts, especially when checking
>> how their clothes fit. *No women ever tentively asks "Does this top
>> make my breasts look too big?" *Difference is I'm honest enough to
>> admit it.
>
>LOL- agree with some of your points, but if I had a huge chest, I
>would probably want to minimize them. Alas, I will never have that
>problem...

All contemplate but only a very small percentage actually undergo a
reduction... for most a few more dollars spent on a properly fitted
bra will eliminate most discomfort... odds are you wouldn't,
especially when you refer to "that problem" with "Alas". Some women
with very large breasts look very deformed without clothing, they
require surgery more for emotional discomfit than physical discomfit.
Actually I love all breasts, size not withstanding... but I abhor
pierced nipples with a passion and enhanced titties are a sexual turn
off... if I want to fondle Tupperware bowls I have several sizes in my
kitchen pantry. The size of ones passion is far more important.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:45:27 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Sep 25, 1:05*am, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>> ItsJoanNotJoann wrote
>>
>> >Oh my heavens! Where have you been
>> > girl?? No cable or satellite for
>> >your tv????
>>
>> No satellite dish, but do have cable and get LOTS of channels, but I
>> never watch daytime TV, except occasionally will watch the judge shows
>> (in part) that are on in the morning, but not for long. I watch very
>> little TV, as are other things I'd rather do.
>>
>> Depending on how many years ago this guy was on TV too, as went from '74
>> to '87 without TV, as just felt it was better for our four kids to not
>> be staring at the boob tube all the time, and they thanked us later for
>> having the cable disconnected. Hubby and I sure never missed it, but now
>> I would, but I'm still very selective what I watch, and don't watch any
>> of the cooking shows, etc.
>>
>> Judy
>
>Don't check in with the cooking channel much, huh. Alton Brown is the
>host of Iron Chef America.

Iron Chef has to be the biggest waste of air time there is... what a
bunch of buffoonary. I started to watch it 2-3 times, I lasted maybe
15 minutes, I moved on before I gacked... The Three Stooges is far
more informative

On Sep 24, 6:18*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> For many years I would only use the "original" Chocolate Chip Cookie
> recipe on the Nestle's semi-sweet chocolate chip package, and thought
> they were near perfect. However, the original recipe called for 1/4 tsp,
> water and I don't recall it using 1 cup of all butter, and the cookies
> were thicker and chewy, but I used 1 cup of Crisco shortening in place
> of butter, as found that made them flat and crisp, and I don't like thin
> crisp cookies.
>
> Over the years I have tried other recipes, that said they were "the
> best". Some used half butter and half shortening, and some used brown
> AND white sugar both. I was pleased with them the day I baked them, as
> seemed chewy and exactly what I wanted, but then after I stored them in
> a airtight container (usually Tupperware) they would get soft and break,
> and no longer chewy and solid. I get one I think is the "perfect one"
> only to be disappointed after they sit awhile.
>
> If you have a recipe you think I might be looking for, please post it
> here...thanks! It's my hubby's favorite cookie, although it has never
> been mine. Oatmeal Raisin are my favorite cookies, or a soft (but firm)
> raisin spice cookie.
>
> Judy

Judy, in my personal experience (I'm almost as old as you are - less
than a year's difference, actually ;-) - butter makes them crispy;
baking margerine makes them chewier and/or softer; putting in more
brown sugar than white will also make them chewier. The 1/4 tsp. or
1/2 tsp. of water in the old recipe wasn't there to make any kind of a
difference, it just made the recipe seem more "special."

Try these - I use 1/3 baking oleo and 2/3 butter, but you should use
all margarine if you want chewy. Then store them as you usually do
and see how they fare. They are our favorites, hands down, but I
should say any recipe likely will be the best when they are freshly
made. Be sure to note not to put raw dough on hot cookie sheets -
wait until the sheets are cool to reuse them.

Big Soft Chocolate Chip Cookies (my recipe)

1 stick oleo, melted and cooled to lukewarm
1/2 stick butter, melted and cooled to lukewarm
(Here, use all oleo for chewier cookies)
1 C. light brown sugar
½ C. white sugar
1 extra large or jumbo egg, plus 1 egg yolk
2 tsp. vanilla (I used a scant T.)
2 C. plus 2 T. flour (white, bleached, all-purpose)
½ tsp. salt
½ tsp. soda
1 12-oz. bag semi-sweet chocolate chips, regular or “mega.” (I always
put in more chips than this - usually 1 1/2 bags of chocolate
"chunks.")

Put the melted shortening and the sugars in a mixing bowl. Mix until
thoroughly blended. Add the egg, egg yolk, and vanilla and mix
thoroughly. Put the flour, salt and soda in a bowl and whisk or sift
once. Add the dry ingredients to the sugar mixture and mix
thoroughly. Stir in chips by hand.

Line cookie sheets with baking parchment. Drop cookie dough on cookie
sheets. (I use a regular cookie scoop - holds about 3 level T. of
dough.) Cover unbaked dough with plastic wrap so it doesn't dry out.
Bake at 325 deg. for 13 minutes (check at 11 minutes). (Adjust your
check-up time for your hot oven.) Cookies should be slightly brown on
the peaks and edges, and light colored and soft in the center.

Remove from oven, leave on cookie sheets until about half-way cool and
then move to brown paper or newspaper to finish cooling. Do not put
new batches on hot cookie sheets; make sure sheets have cooled before
reusing. This recipe makes about 30 big (3 - 3 1/2") cookies.

Store in airtight container with waxed paper between layers; (I just
use the parchment that the cookies were baked on) the baked cookies
can be frozen if individually wrapped in plastic wrap and sealed
tightly. The raw dough can be frozen in an airtight container for up
to two weeks. Thaw it in the refrigerator. Thaw baked cookies at
room temperature.
The baked cookies are best eaten within two days.

Variations: Instead of chocolate chips, use chunks of white
chocolate (6 oz.) and macadamia nuts (about 3/4 cup, cut into coarse
bits) (or use proportions of chocolate and nuts to taste).

For the choc. chips, you can substitute 1 C. quick-cooking oatmeal and
1 C. raisins, plumped 5 minutes in boiling water.

You can also substitute 1 ½ pkg. (about 18 oz.) of brickle bits and
3/4 C. coarsely chopped pecans for the choc. chips.

Enjoy experimenting!

N.

On 9/26/2011 10:57 AM, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:23:10 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> All this experience and blue ribbons and you don't know why your
>> cookies crumble??
>
> You're quick to call her rude, I guesss it takes one to know one.

Storrmee's posts don't correctly show attributions, and it wasn't her
that posted what you quoted. I understand the mistake though. I often
slip right past Lee's top posted message, and while I like reading her,
it's too much trouble to scroll back up most of the time.

thanks for writing what i write, Lee
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/26/2011 10:57 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:23:10 -0500, "Storrmmee"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> All this experience and blue ribbons and you don't know why your
>>> cookies crumble??
>>
>> You're quick to call her rude, I guesss it takes one to know one.
>
> Storrmee's posts don't correctly show attributions, and it wasn't her that
> posted what you quoted. I understand the mistake though. I often slip
> right past Lee's top posted message, and while I like reading her, it's
> too much trouble to scroll back up most of the time.

On 9/25/2011 10:34 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> merryb wrote:
>>> My mom used to hide them in the freezer labeled as liver
>>
>> Anything chocolate tastes better frozen. My mom used to hide her
>> stash of chocolates in her bra drawer, I ain't kidding... was a big
>> mistake. hehe My grandmother, my mom's mother always had candy for
>> me; Charms, Chicklets, Tootsie Rolls, Chuckles etc., I wasn't supposed
>> to eat any before dinner but my gramma would hide her goodies in her
>> bra and have me reach in for a surprise... what does a three year old
>> know.
>
> Hmmmm. And thus your fixation?
>

That one was a shocker for me too. Maybe he was abused as a child by
his grandmother?

In article >,
Cheryl > wrote:

> On 9/25/2011 10:34 PM, Jean B. wrote:

> > Hmmmm. And thus your fixation?
> >
>
> That one was a shocker for me too. Maybe he was abused as a child by
> his grandmother?

And that's why he tells such outrageous whoppers?

:-)

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Thanks for posting your recipe, Nancy! They sound good, and think I will
try using all margarine then. It's possible I did use that years ago,
and just was thinking it was Crisco, as for several years, I only bought
butter at holiday time for special cookies, like Spritz, Shortbread,
etc., that MUST have all butter. I've tried using half Crisco (butter
flavored) and half real butter, but still spread out too thin and were
crisper than what I like.

I don't remember which recipe I used when I made Zob cookies that time
and mailed him, after I lost the bet on Danny Gokey (LOL) as he still is
going on about those cookies and told me they were the most flaky
chocolate chip cookie he'd ever eaten and would just melt in his mouth.
That might have been the one that called for 2 cups of all brown sugar
and 2 medium eggs plus 1 egg yolk, but forget it it used all butter, or
not..without going to look up the recipe.

Anyway, I'll let you know if I try these and what I think.

Judy

Lee wrote:

> and your attching yourself to bob's post doesn't reduce your vulgarity or
> attempts to improve your status in your own eyes... just because he
> responded with a civilized disagreement to me, in no way validates you,
> your opinion or your rude manner of posting

It's a sad day on Usenet when *I* am the civil one!

Bob