I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
with a raccoon!

Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
else's problem.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Sep 4, 9:43*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

You could 'cage' your tomatoes.

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:58:15 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Sep 4, 9:43*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>> with a raccoon!
>>
>> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>> else's problem.
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>>
>> --
>>
>> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
>
>You could 'cage' your tomatoes.

Determined raccoons can circumvent a cage. My dog is apparently
keeping the raccoons away from the garden. The back yard is wire
fenced to keep the dog in. The raccoons have a nest of babies under
the neighbor's storage shed. They squeeze between the wire fence and
the wooden fence to leave their nest rather than come into our yard.
So I would recommend a dog. . .but then you still have to fence the
tomatoes because dogs are partial to them red or green. You are
really going to have to use your noodle on this one to be smarter than
the critters.
Janet US

On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.


Have you tried sprinkling the area around the tomatoes with dried blood.
You can buy it in a sack at the garden store. We used it to repel deer
in NJ.


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Sep 4, 9:43*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

You should call animal control as well.

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

regarding raccoons
>You should call animal control as well.

Will animal control do something about them where you live? Around
here that is for cats and dogs. Fish and Game says you need to get a
private contractor and the raccoons must be let go on their home
ground or at a safe, approved place. . .no poisoning, shooting etc.
Janet US

On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal control
in your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I
don't see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.

Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you have to
get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down but
I won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even though
she is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck
out of them but doesn't harm them.

Il 04/09/2011 20:47, Janet Bostwick ha scritto:

>> regarding raccoons
>> You should call animal control as well.

> Will animal control do something about them where you live? Around
> here that is for cats and dogs. Fish and Game says you need to get a
> private contractor and the raccoons must be let go on their home
> ground or at a safe, approved place. . .no poisoning, shooting etc.
> Janet US

Does one have to give the raccon 10$, too, so it can buy some booze?
--
Vilco
And the Family Stone
Sei al secondo auting oggi.
Io foss'in te mi fermerei qui,

Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

>I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>with a raccoon!
>
>Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>else's problem.
>

I trap them *then* shoot them. But if you can't go that way, I
think Steve has had the best idea so far-- Look for liquid fence at a
garden store. I've had luck with the one for woodchucks and
rabbits. There should be a raccoon [and skunk and opossum,
hopefully] mix.

Wire fences-- unless you can completely enclose the garden, including
a cover, and a below ground barrier for the diggers, is futile against
coons-- and to a lesser extent possums [which would be my guess, BTW].
I've never had raccoons go after tomatoes [thank goodness!]. I quit
growing corn because I never got enough for a meal once those masked
marauders were done.

That's not completely true. The last year I grew corn, I surrounded
the corn patch with infra-red detecting light switches. If
anything came close to the corn after dark, lights went on & a radio
started blasting. I got a couple meals of corn that year & then the
cord came unplugged [raccoon or my carelessness?<g>].

I didn't notice the cord until I went out to the garden one day & saw
they had torn the whole patch apart again.

Jim

On Sep 4, 11:43*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

We have raccoons, we also have coyotes and a dog. They ar very clever
and if cornered can kill a dog. I would forgoet about the tomatoes and
n4ext year plant them somewhere else.
Oh, could it be mice eating the tomatoes? I used to have mice do that.
If the tomatoes are ripe, the raccoons will eat them. They can
dismantle a bird feeder in a few minutes. They are cute, try to
ocncentrate on that.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:23:11 +0200, ViLco > wrote:

>Il 04/09/2011 20:47, Janet Bostwick ha scritto:
>
>>> regarding raccoons
>>> You should call animal control as well.
>
>> Will animal control do something about them where you live? Around
>> here that is for cats and dogs. Fish and Game says you need to get a
>> private contractor and the raccoons must be let go on their home
>> ground or at a safe, approved place. . .no poisoning, shooting etc.
>> Janet US
>
>Does one have to give the raccon 10$, too, so it can buy some booze?
Panhandlers are frowned upon in my city ;o)
The only reason I know this stuff is the crazy woman that owned the
house behind us rebuilt an old one story ranch to 2 stories plus tower
at a cost of $450,000. She was too cheap or stupid to cut back the
trees that grew close to her new house. Being crazy and soon bored,
she toddled of to California and began living there and left this
house unoccupied for 6 years. We used to see the raccoons having a
wonderful time on her roof. Well they gained entrance, had families
and did some renovating of their own. They didn't care for the carpet
and a wall was in the way, so they tore them up. They had their own
ideas about bathroom facilities as well.

When the woman was finally forced to get a tenant in because neighbors
were complaining about the disrepair, she found that she needed to do
$10,000 worth of repair. She also had to hire a contractor to trap
and remove about a dozen raccoons. We talked with the contractor and
he was the one that told us the restrictions.

A couple of years later, we found a dead raccoon at our lower steps.
We called Fish and Game because they were concerned about some disease
getting in the animal population at that time. Fish and Game did an
necropsy and later told us the animal had been poisoned. We had to
make out flyers and distribute to neighbors informing them that it was
against the law to poison or shoot wild animals within the city
limits.
Janet US

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:43:26 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>with a raccoon!
>
>Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>else's problem.
>
>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
You know what? My daughter (in a south eastern state) just told me
that the squirrels are biting into her tomatoes. She's seen them.
She's also seen them carry them up her oak tree.
Good luck
Janet US

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:00:21 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:43:26 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>
>>I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>>than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>>is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>>house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>>Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>>suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>>or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>>have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>>with a raccoon!
>>
>>Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>>which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>>else's problem.
>>
>>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>You know what? My daughter (in a south eastern state) just told me
>that the squirrels are biting into her tomatoes. She's seen them.
>She's also seen them carry them up her oak tree.
>Good luck
>Janet US

Squirrels go after my tomatoes all the time. So do raccoons. And deer.
And possums.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:14:10 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:00:21 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
snip

>>You know what? My daughter (in a south eastern state) just told me
>>that the squirrels are biting into her tomatoes. She's seen them.
>>She's also seen them carry them up her oak tree.
>>Good luck
>>Janet US
>
>Squirrels go after my tomatoes all the time. So do raccoons. And deer.
>And possums.

There is no public enemy number one, is there? My squirrels preferred
my winter squash (when I had some). They would nibble here and there.
Thieves and miscreants.
Janet US

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:56:32 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:

We had to
> make out flyers and distribute to neighbors informing them that it was
> against the law to poison or shoot wild animals within the city
> limits.
> Janet US


That makes a lot of sense, NOT.

It's ok to poison and shoot them in the wilderness, just not in the city.

Ridiculous.


TFM®

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:23:53 -0400, TFM® >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:56:32 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> We had to
>> make out flyers and distribute to neighbors informing them that it was
>> against the law to poison or shoot wild animals within the city
>> limits.
>> Janet US
>
>
>That makes a lot of sense, NOT.
>
>It's ok to poison and shoot them in the wilderness, just not in the city.
>
>Ridiculous.
>
>
>TFM®

Children, domestic animals and other folks could get in the way of a
careless raccoon killer.
Janet US

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:50:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
>
>> You should call animal control as well.
>
>Where do you live that animal control will do anything about raccoons?
>

Probably anywhere rabies is of concern. OTOH- it probably varies by
the officer, too.

I called once for a skunk-- it was acting a little strange. The guy
was here in an hour.

For a coon eating a garden I wouldn't expect a quick response-- but
they might come out-- and they'll most likely have better advice than
we can give from Usenet.

Jim

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:39:33 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:14:10 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:00:21 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>snip
>
>>>You know what? My daughter (in a south eastern state) just told me
>>>that the squirrels are biting into her tomatoes. She's seen them.
>>>She's also seen them carry them up her oak tree.
>>>Good luck
>>>Janet US
>>
>>Squirrels go after my tomatoes all the time. So do raccoons. And deer.
>>And possums.
>
>There is no public enemy number one, is there? My squirrels preferred
>my winter squash (when I had some). They would nibble here and there.
>Thieves and miscreants.
>Janet US

I do not know what it going after the tomatoes right now in such a
vicious way. We have been harvesting for 6 weeks at least and it is
only the last week that something has taken such a devoted nightly
interest in them.

Thieves and miscreants. Yes, indeed.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:02:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:23:53 -0400, TFM® >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:56:32 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> We had to
>>> make out flyers and distribute to neighbors informing them that it was
>>> against the law to poison or shoot wild animals within the city
>>> limits.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>
>>That makes a lot of sense, NOT.
>>
>>It's ok to poison and shoot them in the wilderness, just not in the city.
>>
>>Ridiculous.
>>
>>
>>TFM®
>
> Children, domestic animals and other folks could get in the way of a
> careless raccoon killer.
> Janet US


I see your point. All the more reason to have a high power pellet rifle at
one's disposal.

TFM®

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:50:46 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
>
>> You should call animal control as well.
>
> Where do you live that animal control will do anything about raccoons?
>
> -sw

Speaking of animal control...

I have never been able to even reach them. The phone is busy 24/7. I shit
you not.

I called the police once about a dog that charged Christy. They told me to
call animal control.
I told them I had tried for 2 hours with no luck.
I then told them I would fix it myself.

When the officer (police) arrived he had the same speech, "call animal
control".
I handed him the phone and invited him to do so.

Sometimes you just have to do things outside the law when the law doesn't
work.

TFM®

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:39:24 -0400, TFM® >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:02:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:23:53 -0400, TFM® >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:56:32 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>> We had to
>>>> make out flyers and distribute to neighbors informing them that it was
>>>> against the law to poison or shoot wild animals within the city
>>>> limits.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>
>>>That makes a lot of sense, NOT.
>>>
>>>It's ok to poison and shoot them in the wilderness, just not in the city.
>>>
>>>Ridiculous.
>>>
>>>
>>>TFM®
>>
>> Children, domestic animals and other folks could get in the way of a
>> careless raccoon killer.
>> Janet US
>
>
>I see your point. All the more reason to have a high power pellet rifle at
>one's disposal.
>
>TFM®
They are stealthy. You need see them. 'Course they are pretty
raucous and rowdy when fighting at night.
Janet US

On Sunday, September 4, 2011 12:19:41 PM UTC-5, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:58:15 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sep 4, 9:43*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> >> with a raccoon!
> >>
> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> >> else's problem.
> >>
> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
> >
> >You could 'cage' your tomatoes.
>
> Determined raccoons can circumvent a cage. My dog is apparently
> keeping the raccoons away from the garden. The back yard is wire
> fenced to keep the dog in. The raccoons have a nest of babies under
> the neighbor's storage shed. They squeeze between the wire fence and
> the wooden fence to leave their nest rather than come into our yard.
> So I would recommend a dog. . .but then you still have to fence the
> tomatoes because dogs are partial to them red or green. You are
> really going to have to use your noodle on this one to be smarter than
> the critters.

I'm not a dog person, but your solution does work for squirrels and 'coons. Having a cat in our house sure keeps it mouse free. The very smell of a carnivore is a real deterrent to omnivorous pests.

> Janet US

--Bryan

On Sunday, September 4, 2011 12:47:36 PM UTC-5, heyjoe wrote:
> The only good racoon is a dead racoon.
>
I agree. In urban and suburban areas, they should be open season, no limit for fur trapping.

--Bryan

On 9/4/2011 7:10 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:

> I do not know what it going after the tomatoes right now in such a
> vicious way. We have been harvesting for 6 weeks at least and it is
> only the last week that something has taken such a devoted nightly
> interest in them.
>
> Thieves and miscreants. Yes, indeed.

Your plants are all on your deck right? I think it was you that posted
pictures of your patio plants. I wonder if it is something that is
trying to save for the winter? Or maybe something that has matured like
first season mice? Something nocturnal for sure. I don't think squirrels
are.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:24:50 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 9/4/2011 7:10 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> I do not know what it going after the tomatoes right now in such a
>> vicious way. We have been harvesting for 6 weeks at least and it is
>> only the last week that something has taken such a devoted nightly
>> interest in them.
>>
>> Thieves and miscreants. Yes, indeed.
>
>Your plants are all on your deck right? I think it was you that posted
>pictures of your patio plants. I wonder if it is something that is
>trying to save for the winter? Or maybe something that has matured like
>first season mice? Something nocturnal for sure. I don't think squirrels
>are.

I have most of the garden on the decking, but some in the ground, too.
Squirrels are bold as brass and have no fear of daylight raids.The
raccoons, deer and possums prefer the dark.

I have also had a plague of chipmunks on the upper deck this year...so
prolific they were, that I put out rat traps behind the tubs. Got
several of the little *******s, too.

And then there are the groundhogs...they will come right up onto the
deck if I do not plop a large plywood board across the stairs

Boron

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> I have also had a plague of chipmunks on the upper deck this year...so
> prolific they were, that I put out rat traps behind the tubs. Got
> several of the little *******s, too.

Ah! That's what I caught a couple weeks ago.
One of my traps caught what appeared to be a
very small squirrel with stripes. I thought
it was either another species or perhaps a
juvenile form of squirrel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipmunk

Yup, that's it! I did not know we had chipmunks
around here. If I get one more rodent species,
I'll be 5 Stars in the Bucky Katt Society!

Omelet wrote:
>
> It is spread by saliva.
> I'd not risk it... Rabies is 100% terminal.

There have been survivors, according to Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Prognosis

Sqwertz > wrote:

>Where do you live that animal control will do anything about raccoons?

If the racoon is dead, here they will come out and remove it.

Steve

I am wondering if hot pepper flakes would work like it does with cats?
coons are more of a sight animal i think than cats, but its worth a google,
Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>> with a raccoon!
>>
>> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>> else's problem.
>
>
> Have you tried sprinkling the area around the tomatoes with dried blood.
> You can buy it in a sack at the garden store. We used it to repel deer in
> NJ.
>
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

iirc they carry as much or more nasties than even skunks do, Lee
"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 4, 9:43 am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

You should call animal control as well.

meanwhile if the damned thing is rabid, it can progress through the children
and domestic animals biting/infecting away, Lee
"TFM®" > wrote in message
. ..
> On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:02:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:23:53 -0400, TFM® >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:56:32 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>> We had to
>>>> make out flyers and distribute to neighbors informing them that it was
>>>> against the law to poison or shoot wild animals within the city
>>>> limits.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>
>>>That makes a lot of sense, NOT.
>>>
>>>It's ok to poison and shoot them in the wilderness, just not in the city.
>>>
>>>Ridiculous.
>>>
>>>
>>>TFM®
>>
>> Children, domestic animals and other folks could get in the way of a
>> careless raccoon killer.
>> Janet US
>
>
> I see your point. All the more reason to have a high power pellet rifle
> at
> one's disposal.
>
> TFM®

if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and can
fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and difficulty
walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee
"George Shirley" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>> with a raccoon!
>>
>> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>> else's problem.
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>>
>> --
>>
>> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
> Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal control in
> your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I don't
> see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
>
> Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
> critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you have to
> get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
> Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down but I
> won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even though she
> is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck out of
> them but doesn't harm them.

Sqwertz > wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>>Where do you live that animal control will do anything about raccoons?
>>
>> If the racoon is dead, here they will come out and remove it.
>
>Not around here. We have vultures to get rid of them. Or are they
>buzzards? <shrug>. Whatever they are, they're huge and ugly as all
>hell. And they make quick work of dead animals. The only thing left
>of poor Fluffy will be her collar given 15-20 minutes.

We have them (turkey vultures) but they don't come into the woodsy
residential areas so much. So a dead animal might fester indefinitely
if not removed. Out in the field, the vultures get it.


Steve

Sqwertz > wrote:

>The only reason we don't see them in the city is because there are no
>dead animals in the city. But in residential areas, even on main
>roads, they'll swoop in sometimes hold up traffic until they get the
>hint to drag it off the to side and feast there. They're not afraid
>of cars until they get about 2-3 feet away. Some people are afraid to
>get their cars that close to them.

Neither turkey vultures or racoons are afraid of bugger. The vulture
might figure a dead racoon in an unusual place (front porch) has
met a toxic end and they may not want to eat it.

S.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:02:30 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Mark Thorson
> wrote,
>Omelet wrote:
>>
>> It is spread by saliva.
>> I'd not risk it... Rabies is 100% terminal.
>
>There have been survivors, according to Wikipedia.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Prognosis

You know anything under 1% per serving can be
reported as 0%, don't you?

In article >,
says...
>
> if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and can
> fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and difficulty
> walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee

You can get felt cleaning pellets that won't usually break the skin but
sting like Hell.

<http://www.amazon.com/Beeman-Quick-Cleaning-Pellets-
100ct/dp/B0018LA28U>

Or try a paintball gun. If regular paintballs don't discourage them you
can get capsaicin-filled ones.


> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> >> with a raccoon!
> >>
> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> >> else's problem.
> >>
> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
> > Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal control in
> > your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I don't
> > see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
> >
> > Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
> > critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you have to
> > get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
> > Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down but I
> > won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even though she
> > is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck out of
> > them but doesn't harm them.

too much risk of injury or posion and slow death, either they bother you
enough to take them out or they don't, Lee
"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
.local...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and can
>> fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and difficulty
>> walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee
>
> You can get felt cleaning pellets that won't usually break the skin but
> sting like Hell.
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Beeman-Quick-Cleaning-Pellets-
> 100ct/dp/B0018LA28U>
>
> Or try a paintball gun. If regular paintballs don't discourage them you
> can get capsaicin-filled ones.
>
>
>> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
>> .com...
>> > On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>> >> with a raccoon!
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>> >> else's problem.
>> >>
>> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
>> > Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal control
>> > in
>> > your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I
>> > don't
>> > see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
>> >
>> > Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
>> > critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you have
>> > to
>> > get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
>> > Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down
>> > but I
>> > won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even though
>> > she
>> > is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck out
>> > of
>> > them but doesn't harm them.
>
>

David Harmon wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:02:30 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Mark Thorson
> > wrote,
> >Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >> It is spread by saliva.
> >> I'd not risk it... Rabies is 100% terminal.
> >
> >There have been survivors, according to Wikipedia.
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Prognosis
>
> You know anything under 1% per serving can be
> reported as 0%, don't you?

But what about all those other cases that "they"
don't want you to know about? Of course they
want you to think rabies is 100% fatal! Name
another virus that is 100% fatal! Not smallpox.
Not measles. Not killer bird flu.

Getting you to believe stories like that is how
Big Pharma makes billions selling vaccines! They
don't want you to know that you wouldn't need their
drugs if you ate a Neolithic, macrobiotic, raw food,
gluten-free, nightshade-free, vegan diet and drank
only magnetized water that has been homeopathically
potentized with more water.

Oh no, they'll never tell you _that_! That would
put them out of business tomorrow!

In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> David Harmon wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:02:30 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Mark Thorson
> > > wrote,
> > >Omelet wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It is spread by saliva.
> > >> I'd not risk it... Rabies is 100% terminal.
> > >
> > >There have been survivors, according to Wikipedia.
> > >
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Prognosis
> >
> > You know anything under 1% per serving can be
> > reported as 0%, don't you?

[snip]

> Oh no, they'll never tell you _that_! That would
> put them out of business tomorrow!

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! A conspiracy! If people only knew that
one measly dose of food grade propane would cure you, Big Pharma would
go out of business!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
says...
>
> too much risk of injury or posion and slow death, either they bother you
> enough to take them out or they don't, Lee

Not sure why you think that a paintball full of pepper would be
"poison", or why you think there's significant risk of injury--you feel
it when a paintball hits you but unless it catches you in the eye the
risk of actual injury is pretty small.

> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
> .local...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and can
> >> fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and difficulty
> >> walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee
> >
> > You can get felt cleaning pellets that won't usually break the skin but
> > sting like Hell.
> >
> > <http://www.amazon.com/Beeman-Quick-Cleaning-Pellets-
> > 100ct/dp/B0018LA28U>
> >
> > Or try a paintball gun. If regular paintballs don't discourage them you
> > can get capsaicin-filled ones.
> >
> >
> >> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> >> .com...
> >> > On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> >> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> >> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> >> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> >> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> >> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> >> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> >> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> >> >> with a raccoon!
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> >> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> >> >> else's problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
> >> > Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal control
> >> > in
> >> > your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I
> >> > don't
> >> > see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
> >> >
> >> > Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
> >> > critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you have
> >> > to
> >> > get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
> >> > Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down
> >> > but I
> >> > won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even though
> >> > she
> >> > is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck out
> >> > of
> >> > them but doesn't harm them.
> >
> >