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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:05:52 -0500, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 8/21/2011 4:39 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> >> "blake murphy" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:01:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote: >>> >>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Hackmatack" > wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> They're both laughing all the way to the bank. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know little about Deen and could care less, but it seems Bourdain >>>>>> really >>>>>> really needs to get over himself. >>>>> >>>>> Tony is Tony. Sure, he is a bit full of himself, but he can also >>>>> laugh >>>>> at himself. I kind of like his attitude in general. >>>>> >>>>> One thing I can say for certain, I'd much rather have a beer with Tony >>>>> than Paul or her two sons. >>>> >>>> I'm sure Tony has tasted a few beers in his travels :) I can't get >>>> over >>>> that exaggerated southern drawl Paula Deen puts on. I've lived in the >>>> southern US most of my adult life and I've never heard anyone talk like >>>> that. It's extremely annoying so I've never watched one of her cooking >>>> shows. >>>> >>>> Jill >>> >>> if i recall correctly, you've lived in two different places in the south >>> most of your adult life. that hardly makes you an expert on *all* >>> southern >>> drawls. accents can change by quadrant in the same city, for god's >>> sake. >>> >>> your pal, >>> blake >> >> >> It depends on what you call the south, "pal". You want the Civil War >> definition whereby Virginia was a southern state? I lived there, >> too. I've also visited lots of other places in the southern US >> including Georgia, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas. I don't claim >> to be an "expert" about southern accents (that's your statement, not >> mine) but I do know a fake accent when I hear one. >> >> Jill > > There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula Deen. She > may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I believe it is real. > There was a young girl in church this morning named Destiny that sounds > just like Paula Deen (or my sister). Next time I see her, I will ask > her where she is from. > > When I was a kid, I tried to get rid of my accent, but some of it has > stayed with me,especially when I am around my family. :-( > > Becca exactly. it comes and goes - when i went to school with a few southern folks (in new york city), their accents would be *much* stronger for a week or so after returning from thanksgiving or christmas break. one guy - a jewish cat from oak ridge (his dad worked at the laboratory) - managed to control his accent perfectly because he got tired of people making fun of him. but he could drop down into it at the drop of a hat, which sounded funny because he looked like the archetypical jew, more at home in the bronx than ten-o-see. a southern accent is hard to 'do' plausibly - surely everyone has seen comically bad attempts in a movie or on t.v. your pal, blake |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:27:53 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:07:25 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" > > wrote: > > > > >"Ema Nymton" > wrote > >> There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula Deen. She > >> may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I believe it is real. > > > >We don't doubt she has a southern accent, but it has gotten stronger and > >more exaggerated over the years. Thus, the annoyance > > I never knew her before she was on the air-- but there is a good > chance that all of her advisors advised her to lose the accent if she > wanted to make it in the 'big time'. > > Millions are spent every year teaching southerners [and probably > NYers] to speak "American Broadcast English". > > Maybe once she 'made it' she said screw them and went back to her > *real* accent. > I'd never heard of her before she went on air either, but I hadn't heard of most of them before they went on air so that's nothing new. If you listen to her family when she has them on TV, even her siblings don't have her drawl. Like Becca says, her drawl has gotten progressively more pronounced over the years, so I'm thinking it's part of her schtick and probably encouraged by the network bosses. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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On 21 Aug 2011 22:26:17 GMT, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-08-21, Ema Nymton > wrote: > >> There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula Deen. She >> may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I believe it is real. > > I lived in TN for two years. Some guy's accents were so pronounced, I > couldn't fully understand them when they talked. Worse, when I was > discharged and came home to CA, some of my friends asked why I was > speaking with a Southern accent. Yikes!! It's contagious. ;) > > nb it is. you begin to talk like the people you're with, wherever that might be. (now, if it's iowa or something, people might not notice.) your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:20:09 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On 21 Aug 2011 23:52:30 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >>On 2011-08-21, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>> accent. He had been hanging out with South Africans and had picked up >>> their accent. It was gone within a week of his return. >> >>Yep. I lost mine within weeks. >> >>In the service, you meet ppl from everywhere. Once, we were sitting >>around discussing accents. One guy said I must be from CA. I'd never >>told anyone. I asked him how he knew, as I had no accent. He said >>that's how he knew. ;) > > Californians have no accent, they have a certain syntax... you know, > like, airhead. long islanders have no accent, they have a certain syntax... you know, like, psycho. blake |
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:07:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Ema Nymton" > wrote >> There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula Deen. She >> may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I believe it is real. > > We don't doubt she has a southern accent, but it has gotten stronger and > more exaggerated over the years. Thus, the annoyance > >> >> When I was a kid, I tried to get rid of my accent, but some of it has >> stayed with me,especially when I am around my family. :-( >> >> Becca > > I moved from Philadelphia to Ct 30 years ago. Every once in a while someone > asks, "your not from around here are you?" Every region has some > differences in speech. some are quite pronounced. (tee-hee.) your pal, blake |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:27:53 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:07:25 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" > > wrote: > >> >>"Ema Nymton" > wrote >>> There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula Deen. She >>> may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I believe it is real. >> >>We don't doubt she has a southern accent, but it has gotten stronger and >>more exaggerated over the years. Thus, the annoyance > > I never knew her before she was on the air-- but there is a good > chance that all of her advisors advised her to lose the accent if she > wanted to make it in the 'big time'. > > Millions are spent every year teaching southerners [and probably > NYers] to speak "American Broadcast English". > > Maybe once she 'made it' she said screw them and went back to her > *real* accent. > > Jim it is *very* difficult to lose the accent you grew up with - and even if you do, you're liable to lapse back into in times of stress. (just for the record, i don't find deen's accent appealing, even though i have a slight southrn accent myself, or so i'm told.) there's also another idea that i don't think has been mentioned he 'In linguistics, an idiolect is a variety of a language unique to an individual. It is manifested by patterns of vocabulary or idiom selection (the individual's lexicon), grammar, or pronunciations that are unique to the individual.' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiolect> i had a cousin who spoke in a weird mishmash of long island and north carolina accents - places he spent part of his childhood - and i've picked up some speech habits from him. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:29:23 +0000 (UTC), Hackmatack wrote:
> Sqwertz > wrote: >> On 20 Aug 2011 23:12:38 GMT, notbob wrote: >> >>> I don't usually rub my hands in glee at celebrity cat fights, but this >>> is jes too too! >>> >>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...la-deen-225526 >> >> "most dangerous person in America because of her unholy connections >> with evil corporations" >> >> That is true. I used to buy a few good Smithfield products. but now >> Paula has joined their team the prices on three of their in >> particular, were slapped with her mug and the prices on those tripled. >> >> Screw Smithfield, and Paula. >> >> You have to admit, Anthony is admirable. Much more so than Paula. >> Survey Time? >> >> -sw > > I don't think Deen can be blamed for the decline of Smithfield products. > They were declining just fine before she was hired. <snort> your pal, blake |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:00:29 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:09:13 -0400, Cheryl wrote: > >> On 8/20/2011 7:12 PM, notbob wrote: >>> I don't usually rub my hands in glee at celebrity cat fights, but this >>> is jes too too! >>> >>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...la-deen-225526 >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/3vl4k77 >>> >>> We've been saying worse about Sandra Lee for waay longer, but it's >>> nice to see a heavy gun weigh in. ;) >> >> He's a nutcase. Most dangerous in the US? No one is forced to cook her >> recipes. > > Sounds like the Bourdain/Deen debate is divided by the sexes :-) > > -sw **** both of 'em (if that will unite the sexes). your pal, blake |
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Ema Nymton wrote:
> >> On 8/21/2011 4:39 PM, jmcquown wrote: >>> >>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:01:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Hackmatack" > wrote >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They're both laughing all the way to the bank. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know little about Deen and could care less, but it seems Bourdain >>>>>>> really >>>>>>> really needs to get over himself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony is Tony. Sure, he is a bit full of himself, but he can also >>>>>> laugh >>>>>> at himself. I kind of like his attitude in general. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing I can say for certain, I'd much rather have a beer with Tony >>>>>> than Paul or her two sons. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure Tony has tasted a few beers in his travels :) I can't get >>>>> over >>>>> that exaggerated southern drawl Paula Deen puts on. I've lived in the >>>>> southern US most of my adult life and I've never heard anyone talk like >>>>> that. It's extremely annoying so I've never watched one of her cooking >>>>> shows. >>>>> >>>>> Jill >>>> >>>> if i recall correctly, you've lived in two different places in the south >>>> most of your adult life. that hardly makes you an expert on *all* >>>> southern >>>> drawls. accents can change by quadrant in the same city, for god's >>>> sake. >>>> >>>> your pal, >>>> blake >>> >>> >>> It depends on what you call the south, "pal". You want the Civil War >>> definition whereby Virginia was a southern state? I lived there, >>> too. I've also visited lots of other places in the southern US >>> including Georgia, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas. I don't claim >>> to be an "expert" about southern accents (that's your statement, not >>> mine) but I do know a fake accent when I hear one. >>> >>> Jill >> >> There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula Deen. She >> may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I believe it is real. >> There was a young girl in church this morning named Destiny that sounds >> just like Paula Deen (or my sister). Next time I see her, I will ask >> her where she is from. >> >> When I was a kid, I tried to get rid of my accent, but some of it has >> stayed with me,especially when I am around my family. :-( >> >> Becca I'd know your accents by sight. ;) |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:44:11 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote: >On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:39:01 -0400, jmcquown wrote: >> It depends on what you call the south, "pal". You want the Civil War >> definition whereby Virginia was a southern state? I lived there, too. I've >> also visited lots of other places in the southern US including Georgia, >> North Carolina, Alabama and Texas. I don't claim to be an "expert" about >> southern accents (that's your statement, not mine) but I do know a fake >> accent when I hear one. >> >> Jill > >o.k., you're not an expert but you 'know' a fake accent? how are you on >authenticating paintings? About as good as she is on raising children. She does know how to dig a grave pretty well though. >sorry if you object to my signature. bitch. <laugh> Lou |
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blake murphy wrote:
> >(just for the record, i don't find deen's accent appealing, even though i >have a slight southrn accent myself, or so i'm told.) That's a drunken druggie drawl. |
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blake murphy wrote:
> Jim Elbrecht wrote: > >> Maybe once she 'made it' she said screw them and went back to her >> *real* accent. > > it is *very* difficult to lose the accent you grew up with Some people are good at accents, others aren't. Of the places I've lived I can turn on or off their regional in mid sentence. For me it's just fun, others make a living at it. For her there may be hardly any effort in deciding what accent to have for this sentence. Her's has evolved in recent years, by choice or practice I have no idea. > and even if > you do, you're liable to lapse back into in times of stress. That's true. Get me stressed and my accent returns to the one from where I grew up. But I'm not stressed in regular social situations. |
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Doug Freyburger wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> blake murphy wrote: > > Jim Elbrecht wrote: > > > >> Maybe once she 'made it' she said screw them and went back to her > >> real accent. > > > > it is very difficult to lose the accent you grew up with > > Some people are good at accents, others aren't. Of the places I've > lived I can turn on or off their regional in mid sentence. For me > it's just fun, others make a living at it. For her there may be > hardly any effort in deciding what accent to have for this sentence. > Her's has evolved in recent years, by choice or practice I have no > idea. > > > and even if > > you do, you're liable to lapse back into in times of stress. > > That's true. Get me stressed and my accent returns to the one from > where I grew up. But I'm not stressed in regular social situations. LOL, I have to remember so many trips to OZ, probably 15 or more while on 2 ships stationed in Japan. Keeping in mind that I am a polite fun person who's totally happy to learn from any culture when there and a sailor, so I'd spend at least some of my time sopping up the local culture in a bar. (Kitty O'sheas is my favorite in Darwin). When an OZ person meets a polite American, it seems our accents charm one another. Sober, mine is now 'newscaster speak' but after a few beers I start to travel well south of the mason-dixon line. LOL, smokey mountains sort. 'I be fine an' fixin' ta git summa that there roo ya'll just said be real good'. Hehe trying to phonetic myself and probably muffed it all up. We do use 'be' though in an almost classic elizabethan format. -- |
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jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... >On 2011-08-21, Ema Nymton > > wrote: > > > > > There are people in my family who sound very much like Paula > > > Deen. She may exaggerate her accent somewhat, y'all, but I > > > believe it is real. > > > > I lived in TN for two years. Some guy's accents were so > > pronounced, I couldn't fully understand them when they talked. > > Worse, when I was discharged and came home to CA, some of my > > friends asked why I was speaking with a Southern accent. Yikes!! > > It's contagious. ;) > > > > nb > > When we moved to TN one of my brothers purposefully put on a southern > accent to try to fit in. That didn't really work. It just sounded > stupid :) I guess it makes a difference what part of TN you were in. > The folks in Chattanooga sound markedly different from the folks on > the western side. You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. Iffin ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and i've trained myself to use a more standard american english for clarity at work so my writing shows it now. -- |
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"cshenk" > > You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. Iffin > ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. > > It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and i've > trained myself to use a more standard american english for clarity at > work so my writing shows it now. > Your writing shows a lot including arrogance and ignorance. If you must pretend to be superior, perhaps you might consider using the shift key for American, English and the personal pronoun "I". You should use an apostrophe in the word can't; your use of the apostrophe at "morf a bit" was superfluous. I've lived in the South nearly a 100 years and have yet to hear anyone say "Iffin". "Fixin" would have been a better choice, as in "you're fixin' to go buy Modern English Usage by Fowler". Polly |
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On 8/22/2011 10:59 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
> > "cshenk" > >> You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. Iffin >> ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. >> >> It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and i've >> trained myself to use a more standard american english for clarity at >> work so my writing shows it now. >> > > Your writing shows a lot including arrogance and ignorance. If you must > pretend to be superior, perhaps you might consider using the shift key > for American, English and the personal pronoun "I". You should use an > apostrophe in the word can't; your use of the apostrophe at "morf a bit" > was superfluous. > I've lived in the South nearly a 100 years and have yet to hear anyone > say "Iffin". "Fixin" would have been a better choice, as in "you're > fixin' to go buy Modern English Usage by Fowler". Polly You're my kind of lady, Polly. I have both Fowler and the OED on my shelves. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. |
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"Jerry Avins" <> wrote > On 8/22/2011 10:59 PM, Polly Esther wrote: >> >> "cshenk" > >>> You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. Iffin >>> ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. >>> >>> It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and i've >>> trained myself to use a more standard american english for clarity at >>> work so my writing shows it now. >>> >> >> Your writing shows a lot including arrogance and ignorance. If you must >> pretend to be superior, perhaps you might consider using the shift key >> for American, English and the personal pronoun "I". You should use an >> apostrophe in the word can't; your use of the apostrophe at "morf a bit" >> was superfluous. >> I've lived in the South nearly a 100 years and have yet to hear anyone >> say "Iffin". "Fixin" would have been a better choice, as in "you're >> fixin' to go buy Modern English Usage by Fowler". Polly > You're my kind of lady, Polly. I have both Fowler and the OED on my > shelves. > > Jerry Thank you, Jerry. I'm rather ashamed at my display of bad temper and can only justify it by indignance. Usually I can overlook. Polly |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
> wrote: > >"Jerry Avins" <> wrote > On 8/22/2011 10:59 PM, Polly Esther wrote: >>> >>> "cshenk" > >>>> You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. Iffin >>>> ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. >>>> >>>> It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and i've >>>> trained myself to use a more standard american english for clarity at >>>> work so my writing shows it now. >>>> >>> >>> Your writing shows a lot including arrogance and ignorance. If you must >>> pretend to be superior, perhaps you might consider using the shift key >>> for American, English and the personal pronoun "I". You should use an >>> apostrophe in the word can't; your use of the apostrophe at "morf a bit" >>> was superfluous. >>> I've lived in the South nearly a 100 years and have yet to hear anyone >>> say "Iffin". "Fixin" would have been a better choice, as in "you're >>> fixin' to go buy Modern English Usage by Fowler". Polly > > >> You're my kind of lady, Polly. I have both Fowler and the OED on my >> shelves. >> >> Jerry >Thank you, Jerry. I'm rather ashamed at my display of bad temper and can >only justify it by indignance. Usually I can overlook. Polly There was a very interesting program on cable TV this last week. I think it was the History channel. The narrator was a linguist and had taught regional drawls and so forth to actors for years. The thrust of the program was the European (British Isles) origins of all the Southern drawl variations. I think (this was early morning when I couldn't sleep) he said there were 17 distinct variations. He used one sentence throughout the program. He would speak it in the British version and then again in the Southern version. The only difference was cadence. When it was presented that way, it was very clear to hear. Janet US |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:48:51 -0700, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:56:41 -0400, "jmcquown" > > wrote: >> >> When we moved to TN one of my brothers purposefully put on a southern accent >> to try to fit in. That didn't really work. It just sounded stupid :) I >> guess it makes a difference what part of TN you were in. The folks in >> Chattanooga sound markedly different from the folks on the western side. >> > That's the great part about accents! It lets others know (in general) > where you're from. speak that I may see thee. - Ben Jonson your pal, blake |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:49:01 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger wrote:
> blake murphy wrote: >> Jim Elbrecht wrote: >> >>> Maybe once she 'made it' she said screw them and went back to her >>> *real* accent. >> >> it is *very* difficult to lose the accent you grew up with > > Some people are good at accents, others aren't. Of the places I've > lived I can turn on or off their regional in mid sentence. For me it's > just fun, others make a living at it. For her there may be hardly any > effort in deciding what accent to have for this sentence. Her's has > evolved in recent years, by choice or practice I have no idea. > >> and even if >> you do, you're liable to lapse back into in times of stress. > > That's true. Get me stressed and my accent returns to the one from > where I grew up. But I'm not stressed in regular social situations. that's a blessing. your pal, blake |
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On 8/21/2011 5:40 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I used to deal with a lot of American truck drivers and there were a > number of them who simply could not understand. It is interesting to > see how people pick up accents. I had some good friends who moved to > Texas about 30 years ago. She picked up the accent but he didn't. He > was hard of hearing. When my son was 19 he went to Uganda to work, He > came back for a month after 4 months and then went back for another 4 > months. On his return he called me from London and I was surprised to > hear his accent. He had been hanging out with South Africans and had > picked up their accent. It was gone within a week of his return. Some church friends moved to England for 7 years, when they came back, the four of them spoke with British accents. The accents went away, gradually. Becca |
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On 8/22/2011 6:13 PM, cshenk wrote:
> You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. Iffin > ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. > > It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and i've > trained myself to use a more standard american english for clarity at > work so my writing shows it now. When I watch a movie or a television show, the phony accents really annoy me. Memphis Beat is one of them, and I like that show. Sometimes I can tell where someone is from, by their accent. One day a man was talking to me and I asked him if he was from Alabama, and he was. My father was from Alabama, so that one was easy. Some of my great aunts and uncles were raised in Georgia and I can spot that accent. Becca |
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On 8/22/2011 12:30 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Ema Nymton wrote: >>> When I was a kid, I tried to get rid of my accent, but some of it has >>> stayed with me,especially when I am around my family. :-( >>> >>> Becca > I'd know your accents by sight. ;) Sheldon, you do make me blush. Becca |
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On 8/22/2011 9:56 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > When we moved to TN one of my brothers purposefully put on a southern > accent to try to fit in. That didn't really work. It just sounded > stupid :) I guess it makes a difference what part of TN you were in. > The folks in Chattanooga sound markedly different from the folks on > the western side. > > Jill People in Northern Louisiana sound different than the people in the South. It is hard to believe we live in the same state. Keep in mind, if you were a child you could speak French, but if they heard you in school, you were punished. All the music at school was in French, though. My brother lived in LA longer than I did, and you could barely understand him when he moved back to Texas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqfdn8_ftYQ Becca |
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Ema Nymton wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote: >> Ema Nymton wrote: >>>> When I was a kid, I tried to get rid of my accent, but some of it has >>>> stayed with me,especially when I am around my family. :-( >>> >> I'd know your accents by sight. ;) > >Sheldon, you do make me blush. I love blushing ladies. ;) |
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Polly Esther wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "cshenk" > > > You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. > > Iffin ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. > > > > It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and > > i've trained myself to use a more standard american english for > > clarity at work so my writing shows it now. > > > > Your writing shows a lot including arrogance and ignorance. If you > must pretend to be superior, perhaps you might consider using the > shift key for American, English and the personal pronoun "I". You > should use an apostrophe in the word can't; your use of the > apostrophe at "morf a bit" was superfluous. I've lived in the > South nearly a 100 years and have yet to hear anyone say "Iffin". > "Fixin" would have been a better choice, as in "you're fixin' to go > buy Modern English Usage by Fowler". Polly You obviously do not come from my part of the south. That is no reason to denigrate me. I was after all, only having fun with phonetic representation of the area I come from. The 'south' is a BIG place with a great deal of differences in the lexicon used. Sue me, I missed an apostrophy in home usenet email. -- |
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Ema Nymton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 8/22/2011 6:13 PM, cshenk wrote: > > You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. > > Iffin ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. > > > > It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and > > i've trained myself to use a more standard american english for > > clarity at work so my writing shows it now. > > When I watch a movie or a television show, the phony accents really > annoy me. Memphis Beat is one of them, and I like that show. > Sometimes I can tell where someone is from, by their accent. One day > a man was talking to me and I asked him if he was from Alabama, and > he was. My father was from Alabama, so that one was easy. Some of > my great aunts and uncles were raised in Georgia and I can spot that > accent. > > Becca It happens though that people change if they move from an area for a good bit. There is a minute difference still, but it after a decade or more may not be that noticible. I'm not upset at hearing an attempt at an accent. If reasonably well done to fit a story line, it suits well enough. As I've said, Paula Deen seems exxagurrated (grin) to me but she may come from a background set I am not that familiar with. I'd largely place along the smokey mountains and blue ridge. Not far enough south to have a TN flair. Doens't matter. In Navy bootcamp of a group of 86 women, my nickname was 'mouth of the south'. It was pretty thick back then and my first time learning that I could be hard to understand for a person from Boston and such northern cities. -- |
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:04:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> In Navy bootcamp of a group of 86 women, my nickname was 'mouth of the > south'. It was pretty thick back then and my first time learning that > I could be hard to understand for a person from Boston and such > northern cities. Conversely, how did you do understanding particularly pronounced Northern accents? -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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sf wrote:
>"cshenk" wrote: > >> In Navy bootcamp of a group of 86 women, my nickname was 'mouth of the >> south'. It was pretty thick back then and my first time learning that >> I could be hard to understand for a person from Boston and such >> northern cities. > >Conversely, how did you do understanding particularly pronounced >Northern accents? It wasn't the northern accents, it was all those horrific multisyllabic woids. hehe |
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:04:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>Ema Nymton wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 8/22/2011 6:13 PM, cshenk wrote: >> > You cant fake a southern accent. Ya either got one, or ya aint. >> > Iffin ya move south, you will 'morf a bit' over time. >> > >> > It may actually be the word choice that shows it most clearly and >> > i've trained myself to use a more standard american english for >> > clarity at work so my writing shows it now. >> >> When I watch a movie or a television show, the phony accents really >> annoy me. Memphis Beat is one of them, and I like that show. >> Sometimes I can tell where someone is from, by their accent. One day >> a man was talking to me and I asked him if he was from Alabama, and >> he was. My father was from Alabama, so that one was easy. Some of >> my great aunts and uncles were raised in Georgia and I can spot that >> accent. >> >> Becca > >It happens though that people change if they move from an area for a >good bit. There is a minute difference still, but it after a decade or >more may not be that noticible. > >I'm not upset at hearing an attempt at an accent. If reasonably well >done to fit a story line, it suits well enough. As I've said, Paula >Deen seems exxagurrated (grin) to me but she may come from a background >set I am not that familiar with. > >I'd largely place along the smokey mountains and blue ridge. Not far >enough south to have a TN flair. Doens't matter. > >In Navy bootcamp of a group of 86 women, my nickname was 'mouth of the >south'. It was pretty thick back then and my first time learning that >I could be hard to understand for a person from Boston and such >northern cities. After living in NC for 14 years, south FL for 3, back to NC for 3 and 3 months in TX, we moved to MA. I would have to proof read with a woman from the Boston area. We had lots of fun. "What did you say?" -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:04:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > > In Navy bootcamp of a group of 86 women, my nickname was 'mouth of > > the south'. It was pretty thick back then and my first time > > learning that I could be hard to understand for a person from > > Boston and such northern cities. > > Conversely, how did you do understanding particularly pronounced > Northern accents? I had trouble with one we nicknamed 'boston' and 'edith'. Her number in lineup (you call your number to muster) was 33. 'Toidy tree mam' (Relax, we loved her, she was sweet). We sometimes found one another almost incomprehensible. She looked a bit like 'Edith Bunker' (just as sweet) and had a very 'deep' boston accent. I also had trouble with a few others but 35 years later, it's hard to recall the names or details now. Oh, just as many had problems with understanding me in those early days. One classic habit they try to break folks of in bootcamp is saying 'ok'. Dunno why, but they do. You tuck your head in a metal echo-y trash can and yell 'it's not ok to say ok'. They changed it for me. 'It aint sho' nuff'. We all thought it hilarous (even me and I got the point that telling my boss 'sho nuff' is not the best response I can muster). -- |
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Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> sf wrote: > > "cshenk" wrote: > > > >> In Navy bootcamp of a group of 86 women, my nickname was 'mouth of > the >> south'. It was pretty thick back then and my first time > learning that >> I could be hard to understand for a person from > Boston and such >> northern cities. > > > > Conversely, how did you do understanding particularly pronounced > > Northern accents? > > It wasn't the northern accents, it was all those horrific > multisyllabic woids. hehe LOL! Now that one didn't bother me none! Dang, best say 'didn't bother me' or some may get all sorts of antsy. Like me, you are well past any worry over accent of any American. I bet you are laughing your ass off just like I did at yelling 'it aint sho nuff' in a trash can! -- |
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