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On 3/18/2011 7:19 PM, M. JL Esq. wrote:
> Ok, since nobody has stated the obvious i will
>
>
> What do YOU consider the best recipe?
>
> I know its like asking what's the best, book, poem, movie, song, etc.
>
> But i do have my own top ten list.
>
> And in no particular order it includes chicken fried steak, a chicken
> fricassee that uses red wine and beef gravy is also on the list, chicken
> & shrimp, BLT's, salad, plain, boiled & salted black eyed peas, plain
> boiled beef, garlic sourdough toast, and anything chocolate


Well, the absolute favorite in my book is my grandmother's dessert
"chocolate ice box cake"! Can't have a major holiday (Thanksgiving or
Christmas) with that I think of her very often, especially so when I
make that dessert.

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:08 -0700, Roy wrote:

>
> ==
> I tried Gourmet Master last night. Maybe when they get the bugs out it
> might be okay...otherwise it is a POS. Parts of it don't work at all
> and it is just so cumbersome.
> ==


Gourmet Master? Is that recipe software? Never heard of it before - and
nothing came up about it on google.

I use Gourmet Recipe Manager - Linux version. Works fine, with no bugs
that I've seen - and IIRC, Serene installed it (and quite liked it) too.

But hey, if you wanna spend between $20-30 + shipping on some flavor of
Windows-only recipe software, it's no skin off my nose.

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On Mar 18, 10:57*pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:08 -0700, Roy wrote:
>
> > ==
> > I tried Gourmet Master last night. Maybe when they get the bugs out it
> > might be okay...otherwise it is a POS. Parts of it don't work at all
> > and it is just so cumbersome.
> > ==

>
> Gourmet Master? Is that recipe software? Never heard of it before - and
> nothing came up about it on google.
>
> I use Gourmet Recipe Manager - Linux version. Works fine, with no bugs
> that I've seen - and IIRC, Serene installed it (and quite liked it) too.
>
> But hey, if you wanna spend between $20-30 + shipping on some flavor of
> Windows-only recipe software, it's no skin off my nose.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


==
Oops, my mistake. It was Gourmet Recipe Manager for Windows and the
developers are having trouble with it. Apparently the Linux version is
stable but still work to be done on the Windows version.

Cheers right back at yah.
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:37:43 -0700, Roy wrote:

> On Mar 18, 10:57*pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:08 -0700, Roy wrote:
>>
>> > ==
>> > I tried Gourmet Master last night. Maybe when they get the bugs out
>> > it might be okay...otherwise it is a POS. Parts of it don't work at
>> > all and it is just so cumbersome.
>> > ==

>>
>> Gourmet Master? Is that recipe software? Never heard of it before - and
>> nothing came up about it on google.
>>
>> I use Gourmet Recipe Manager - Linux version. Works fine, with no bugs
>> that I've seen - and IIRC, Serene installed it (and quite liked it)
>> too.
>>
>> But hey, if you wanna spend between $20-30 + shipping on some flavor of
>> Windows-only recipe software, it's no skin off my nose.

>
> ==
> Oops, my mistake. It was Gourmet Recipe Manager for Windows and the
> developers are having trouble with it. Apparently the Linux version is
> stable but still work to be done on the Windows version.
>
> Cheers right back at yah.
> ==


Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.

I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
"buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
"license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
donchyathunk?

BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available <grin>

You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.

http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows

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On Mar 18, 10:10*pm, Sky > wrote:
> On 3/18/2011 7:19 PM, M. JL Esq. wrote:
>
> > Ok, since nobody has stated the obvious i will

>
> > What do YOU consider the best recipe?

>
> > I know its like asking what's the best, book, poem, movie, song, etc.

>
> > But i do have my own top ten list.

>
> > And in no particular order it includes chicken fried steak, a chicken
> > fricassee that uses red wine and beef gravy is also on the list, chicken
> > & shrimp, BLT's, salad, plain, boiled & salted black eyed peas, plain
> > boiled beef, garlic sourdough toast, and anything chocolate

>
> Well, the absolute favorite in my book is my grandmother's dessert
> "chocolate ice box cake"! *Can't have a major holiday (Thanksgiving or
> Christmas) with that *I think of her very often, especially so when I
> make that dessert.


Flourless chocolate cakes can be very nice, and with all the gluten
sensitive folks these days, they should be soaring in popularity..
>
> Sky
>

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:00:51 -0400, Landon wrote:
>
> I didn't bother checking the mail today, so perhaps my software will
> be there in the morning.


Yo' Mr Shill! If you'd ordered and downloaded BigOven, you could have
been up and running with it (and the 170,000 recipes they have available)
4 days ago. And no shipping costs involved <lol>

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On Mar 19, 5:40*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:37:43 -0700, Roy wrote:
> > On Mar 18, 10:57*pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:08 -0700, Roy wrote:

>
> >> > ==
> >> > I tried Gourmet Master last night. Maybe when they get the bugs out
> >> > it might be okay...otherwise it is a POS. Parts of it don't work at
> >> > all and it is just so cumbersome.
> >> > ==

>
> >> Gourmet Master? Is that recipe software? Never heard of it before - and
> >> nothing came up about it on google.

>
> >> I use Gourmet Recipe Manager - Linux version. Works fine, with no bugs
> >> that I've seen - and IIRC, Serene installed it (and quite liked it)
> >> too.

>
> >> But hey, if you wanna spend between $20-30 + shipping on some flavor of
> >> Windows-only recipe software, it's no skin off my nose.

>
> > ==
> > Oops, my mistake. It was Gourmet Recipe Manager for Windows and the
> > developers are having trouble with it. Apparently the Linux version is
> > stable but still work to be done on the Windows version.

>
> > Cheers right back at yah.
> > ==

>
> Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
> but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
> something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
> software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
> ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.
>
> I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
> "buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
> everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
> costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
> their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
> "license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
> allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
> license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
> donchyathunk?
>
> BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
> etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available <grin>
>
> You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
> you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.
>
> http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows
>
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> Chatty Cathy


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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:40:24 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:
>
> Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
> but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
> something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
> software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
> ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.
>
> I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
> "buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
> everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
> costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
> their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
> "license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
> allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
> license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
> donchyathunk?
>
> BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
> etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available <grin>
>
> You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
> you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.
>
> http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows


The only recipe software I've ever given a test drive is Gourmet.
It's still on my machine, but I don't use it because it's more work
than I'm willing to put into saving recipes. Master Cook is not my
style either, based on the format I see when recipes are copied from
there to here. I know nothing about Big Oven; but it I have to fill
in blanks anywhere, it's too slow for me.

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 07:25:05 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Mar 18, 10:10*pm, Sky > wrote:
> >
> > Well, the absolute favorite in my book is my grandmother's dessert
> > "chocolate ice box cake"! *Can't have a major holiday (Thanksgiving or
> > Christmas) with that *I think of her very often, especially so when I
> > make that dessert.

>
> Flourless chocolate cakes can be very nice, and with all the gluten
> sensitive folks these days, they should be soaring in popularity..
> >


Logic would dictate that, but I don't see a resurgence in popularity.

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On Mar 19, 12:58*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:40:24 +0200, ChattyCathy
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
> > but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
> > something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
> > software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
> > ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.

>
> > I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
> > "buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
> > everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
> > costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
> > their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
> > "license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
> > allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
> > license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
> > donchyathunk?

>
> > BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
> > etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available <grin>

>
> > You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
> > you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.

>
> >http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows

>
> The only recipe software I've ever given a test drive is Gourmet.
> It's still on my machine, but I don't use it because it's more work
> than I'm willing to put into saving recipes. *Master Cook is not my
> style either, based on the format I see when recipes are copied from
> there to here. *I know nothing about Big Oven; but it I have to fill
> in blanks anywhere, it's too slow for me.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.


==
Up until now all I have used is WordPerfect or Word and they have
worked well. I was looking for more whistles and bells so started to
research other alternatives. It is not difficult to "strip" recipes
using word processors,out of Master Cook files but it does take time.
==


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On 3/19/2011 6:53 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Mar 19, 12:58 pm, > wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:40:24 +0200, ChattyCathy
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
>>> but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
>>> something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
>>> software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
>>> ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.

>>
>>> I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
>>> "buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
>>> everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
>>> costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
>>> their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
>>> "license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
>>> allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
>>> license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
>>> donchyathunk?

>>
>>> BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
>>> etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available<grin>

>>
>>> You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
>>> you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.

>>
>>> http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows

>>
>> The only recipe software I've ever given a test drive is Gourmet.
>> It's still on my machine, but I don't use it because it's more work
>> than I'm willing to put into saving recipes. Master Cook is not my
>> style either, based on the format I see when recipes are copied from
>> there to here. I know nothing about Big Oven; but it I have to fill
>> in blanks anywhere, it's too slow for me.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

>
> ==
> Up until now all I have used is WordPerfect or Word and they have
> worked well. I was looking for more whistles and bells so started to
> research other alternatives. It is not difficult to "strip" recipes
> using word processors,out of Master Cook files but it does take time.
> ==


I'm not sure what you mean. I have Mastercook and Word Perfect. In
Mastercook, I clicked on copy recipe. Then in Word Perfect, on a blank
page, I clicked paste. There was the Mastercook recipe in perfect format
on the Word Perfect page.

If I have a recipe that I got from Usenet and saved as a text file, I
get rid of the extraneous stuff and copy the recipe then open
Mastercook, the cookbook I want to file the recipe in> New recipe>
tools> import assistant then paste the text into import assistant.
Highlight it and copy the whole thing into Mastercook. The process
takes about a minute.

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Storrmmee wrote:

> probably my grandmother's pork chops and rice, her german choc cake, her
> pound cake, the other grandmother dinner rolls and chocolate gravy, my
> mothers meatloaf and ham and beans, my dressing and dh's lasagna, Lee, now
> drooling


I didn't mention me mums home made bread and equally home made
blackberry jam, but only because its not available any more.

I used to enjoy it up through my early 30's when she hit her 70's and
decided to no longer "can" large amounts of fruits and veggies. She was
always willing to throw a loaf of bread together but even that is no
longer possible.
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> "M. JL Esq." wrote:
>
>>Ok, since nobody has stated the obvious i will
>>
>>
>>What do YOU consider the best recipe?
>>
>>I know its like asking what's the best, book, poem, movie, song, etc.
>>
>>But i do have my own top ten list.
>>
>>And in no particular order it includes chicken fried steak, a chicken
>>fricassee that uses red wine and beef gravy is also on the list, chicken &
>>shrimp, BLT's, salad, plain, boiled & salted black eyed peas, plain boiled
>>beef, garlic sourdough toast, and anything chocolate
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>
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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >,
> "M. JL Esq." > wrote:
>
>
>>What do YOU consider the best recipe?
>>
>>I know its like asking what's the best, book, poem, movie, song, etc.

>
>
> The favorites that I cook a
>
> (4) Beef enchiladas


I make, or try to make both enchiladas and burritos to questionable success.

I would be interested in anything you might like to tell us about yours,
i purchase commercially available sauces and rarely make my own refried
beans or green sauce for chicken enchilada. Do you have any
recommendations for brand name sauces? I do a pretty good chilli
rellanos thanks to a quesa from a local Mexican market.
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On Mar 19, 10:06*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> On 3/19/2011 6:53 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 19, 12:58 pm, > *wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:40:24 +0200, ChattyCathy

>
> >> > *wrote:

>
> >>> Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
> >>> but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
> >>> something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
> >>> software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
> >>> ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.

>
> >>> I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
> >>> "buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
> >>> everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
> >>> costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
> >>> their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
> >>> "license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
> >>> allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
> >>> license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
> >>> donchyathunk?

>
> >>> BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
> >>> etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available<grin>

>
> >>> You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
> >>> you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.

>
> >>>http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows

>
> >> The only recipe software I've ever given a test drive is Gourmet.
> >> It's still on my machine, but I don't use it because it's more work
> >> than I'm willing to put into saving recipes. *Master Cook is not my
> >> style either, based on the format I see when recipes are copied from
> >> there to here. *I know nothing about Big Oven; but it I have to fill
> >> in blanks anywhere, it's too slow for me.

>
> >> --

>
> >> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

>
> > ==
> > Up until now all I have used is WordPerfect or Word and they have
> > worked well. I was looking for more whistles and bells so started to
> > research other alternatives. It is not difficult to "strip" recipes
> > using word processors,out of Master Cook files but it does take time.
> > ==

>
> I'm not sure what you mean. *I have Mastercook and Word Perfect. *In
> Mastercook, I clicked on copy recipe. Then in Word Perfect, on a blank
> page, I clicked paste. There was the Mastercook recipe in perfect format
> on the Word Perfect page.
>
> If I have a recipe that I got from Usenet and saved as a text file, I
> get rid of the extraneous stuff and copy the recipe then open
> Mastercook, the cookbook I want to file the recipe in> New recipe>
> tools> import assistant then paste the text into import assistant.
> Highlight it and copy the whole thing into Mastercook. *The process
> takes about a minute.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. *Cooking does.


==
But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
material found in those files.
No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
around.

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one grandmother has taken the next step, the other no longer cooks except
for the most basic,... and not often for that... my mom and sister have all
the recipes and sister has the knack for baking that grandmother had, Lee
"M. JL Esq." > wrote in message
...
> Storrmmee wrote:
>
>> probably my grandmother's pork chops and rice, her german choc cake, her
>> pound cake, the other grandmother dinner rolls and chocolate gravy, my
>> mothers meatloaf and ham and beans, my dressing and dh's lasagna, Lee,
>> now drooling

>
> I didn't mention me mums home made bread and equally home made blackberry
> jam, but only because its not available any more.
>
> I used to enjoy it up through my early 30's when she hit her 70's and
> decided to no longer "can" large amounts of fruits and veggies. She was
> always willing to throw a loaf of bread together but even that is no
> longer possible.
> --
> JL
>> "M. JL Esq." wrote:
>>
>>>Ok, since nobody has stated the obvious i will
>>>
>>>
>>>What do YOU consider the best recipe?
>>>
>>>I know its like asking what's the best, book, poem, movie, song, etc.
>>>
>>>But i do have my own top ten list.
>>>
>>>And in no particular order it includes chicken fried steak, a chicken
>>>fricassee that uses red wine and beef gravy is also on the list, chicken
>>>& shrimp, BLT's, salad, plain, boiled & salted black eyed peas, plain
>>>boiled beef, garlic sourdough toast, and anything chocolate
>>>--
>>>JL

>>
>>




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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
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>But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>material found in those files.
>No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>around.


Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
recipe, I'd really appreciate it.

I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.
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On 2011-03-20, Landon > wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>>But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>>the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>>format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>>material found in those files.
>>No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>>around.

>
> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>
> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.


I'd be glad to elaborate.

Many yrs ago, I helped Dams with our rfc website. I did some of the
updating of pages like signature dishes, birthdays, etc. I was not a
html geek, by any means, but knew enough to help out. Dams would
send most of the new recipes as MC files. Whatta nightmare.

In order to take an MC recipe file and turn it into usable html code,
I practically had to rewrite the entire recipe from scratch. MC
inserted all kinds of proprietary formating code, jes like M$ Word
does, that made simple cut and pasting impossible. In fact, that's
what I later did, was jes read the recipe and re-type it in Wordpad as
a simple ascii text file. Much easier than editing/deleting the
bizarre MC formatting code in the MC recipe files.

Since that time, I write all my recipes in simple ascii text and use
no dedicated software at all. When I post a recipe, anyone can be cut
and paste it anywhere, not possible with MC text files. Perhaps MC
has changed its ways and now files can be convereted or exported as
simple ascii text files. If so, that's a plus. If not, MC is
useless, IMO.

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On 20 Mar 2011 15:55:57 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2011-03-20, Landon > wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>>>the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>>>format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>>>material found in those files.
>>>No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>>>around.

>>
>> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
>> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
>> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>>
>> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.

>
>I'd be glad to elaborate.
>
>Many yrs ago, I helped Dams with our rfc website. I did some of the
>updating of pages like signature dishes, birthdays, etc. I was not a
>html geek, by any means, but knew enough to help out. Dams would
>send most of the new recipes as MC files. Whatta nightmare.
>
>In order to take an MC recipe file and turn it into usable html code,
>I practically had to rewrite the entire recipe from scratch. MC
>inserted all kinds of proprietary formating code, jes like M$ Word
>does, that made simple cut and pasting impossible. In fact, that's
>what I later did, was jes read the recipe and re-type it in Wordpad as
>a simple ascii text file. Much easier than editing/deleting the
>bizarre MC formatting code in the MC recipe files.
>
>Since that time, I write all my recipes in simple ascii text and use
>no dedicated software at all. When I post a recipe, anyone can be cut
>and paste it anywhere, not possible with MC text files. Perhaps MC
>has changed its ways and now files can be convereted or exported as
>simple ascii text files. If so, that's a plus. If not, MC is
>useless, IMO.
>
>nb


I still don't understand what "proprietary formatting code" you're
talking about that would be carried over after a text copy and paste
into MS Word. Then, MS Word should export it as HTML or plain text
easily without any change in formatting of the actual text.

(I've been programming for 30+ years)

Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.

I'll play with it and report back on the results.
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:21:48 -0400, Landon > wrote:

>I still don't understand what "proprietary formatting code" you're
>talking about that would be carried over after a text copy and paste
>into MS Word. Then, MS Word should export it as HTML or plain text
>easily without any change in formatting of the actual text.
>
>(I've been programming for 30+ years)
>
>Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
>software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.
>
>I'll play with it and report back on the results.


Of course, you did say "many years ago", so depending on how many
years ago, perhaps MS Word didn't do what you wanted.

I still use MS Word 2000, so I'll try it out with MC-11 and get back
with you on the results.

I'll take some screenshots and post them.
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:55:02 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Landon > wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
>> software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.

>
>
>You're an old timer!
>
>Who waits for software to arrive in the mailbox???
>
>You CAN buy AND download the software online... in case you hadn't noticed.
>
>Andy


The deal I found was the CD for $20 delivered via snail mail.

I'm not in that big of a hurry.

"Old Guy" is relative. I'm 58. I recently had a women who is in her
late 80's call me a young man! To her, I am.

I like having the CD for a permanent copy of software. It's not
affected by fires, floods, hurricanes, tornados, or hard drive
crashes.

"To each his own" comes to mind. >


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On Mar 20, 9:27*am, Landon > wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
> >But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
> >the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
> >format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
> >material found in those files.
> >No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
> >around.

>
> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>
> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.


==
As viewed from WordPerfect or Word Landon. NOT from the MC program.
Geez, didn't you know that files from other programs can be viewed
from word processor pgms. Lots of files can be loaded into Notepad for
example but you won't make much sense out of them. However one can
grab certain aspects of files not intended for the WP programs such as
portions of "text" which can be pasted into other applications.
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On 3/19/2011 11:55 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Mar 19, 10:06 pm, Janet > wrote:
>> On 3/19/2011 6:53 PM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 19, 12:58 pm, > wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:40:24 +0200, ChattyCathy

>>
>>>> > wrote:

>>
>>>>> Think there are some freebie Windows-specific recipe managers out there,
>>>>> but how good they are, I have no clue. But if you're in a hurry for
>>>>> something that works and works well, I'd actually recommend BigOven recipe
>>>>> software. When I was still running Windows on my machine a couple of years
>>>>> ago, I bought a copy and found it very good.

>>
>>>>> I think it's a little more expensive than MasterCook, but it wasn't
>>>>> "buggy" either, it installed on my XP machine without a hitch and
>>>>> everything worked as advertised. I also didn't have to pay any shipping
>>>>> costs (and I'm in South Africa) because it was available for download from
>>>>> their website - and as soon as I'd paid for it (on-line) they sent me the
>>>>> "license key" so I had it up and running within hours. One was also
>>>>> allowed to install it on up to 3 different machines using the same
>>>>> license. They currently offer over 170,000 recipes too. Not too shabby,
>>>>> donchyathunk?

>>
>>>>> BTW, the latest version runs on all version of Windows (7, Vista, XP,
>>>>> etc.) - and they even have an iPad version available<grin>

>>
>>>>> You can download a free trial version from here - what could it hurt? If
>>>>> you don't like it, you can just un-install it and that's that.

>>
>>>>> http://www.bigoven.com/software/windows

>>
>>>> The only recipe software I've ever given a test drive is Gourmet.
>>>> It's still on my machine, but I don't use it because it's more work
>>>> than I'm willing to put into saving recipes. Master Cook is not my
>>>> style either, based on the format I see when recipes are copied from
>>>> there to here. I know nothing about Big Oven; but it I have to fill
>>>> in blanks anywhere, it's too slow for me.

>>
>>>> --

>>
>>>> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

>>
>>> ==
>>> Up until now all I have used is WordPerfect or Word and they have
>>> worked well. I was looking for more whistles and bells so started to
>>> research other alternatives. It is not difficult to "strip" recipes
>>> using word processors,out of Master Cook files but it does take time.
>>> ==

>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean. I have Mastercook and Word Perfect. In
>> Mastercook, I clicked on copy recipe. Then in Word Perfect, on a blank
>> page, I clicked paste. There was the Mastercook recipe in perfect format
>> on the Word Perfect page.
>>
>> If I have a recipe that I got from Usenet and saved as a text file, I
>> get rid of the extraneous stuff and copy the recipe then open
>> Mastercook, the cookbook I want to file the recipe in> New recipe>
>> tools> import assistant then paste the text into import assistant.
>> Highlight it and copy the whole thing into Mastercook. The process
>> takes about a minute.
>>
>> --
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>> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

>
> ==
> But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
> the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
> format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
> material found in those files.
> No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
> around.
>
> ==


Oh, I think I understand. You are copying a recipe posted here that is
in mastercook format. Yeah, I can see getting rid of all those dots,
etc. When I copy a recipe from Mastercook and paste it into a Usenet
post, I try to delete all the nutritional stuff and the dots and dashes.

Would it help people if those of us using recipes formatted by special
software cleaned up the formats when pasting to Usenet for posting? I'd
be happy to do that.

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On 3/20/2011 10:55 AM, notbob wrote:

> I'd be glad to elaborate.
>
> Many yrs ago, I helped Dams with our rfc website. I did some of the
> updating of pages like signature dishes, birthdays, etc. I was not a
> html geek, by any means, but knew enough to help out. Dams would
> send most of the new recipes as MC files. Whatta nightmare.
>
> In order to take an MC recipe file and turn it into usable html code,
> I practically had to rewrite the entire recipe from scratch. MC
> inserted all kinds of proprietary formating code, jes like M$ Word
> does, that made simple cut and pasting impossible. In fact, that's
> what I later did, was jes read the recipe and re-type it in Wordpad as
> a simple ascii text file. Much easier than editing/deleting the
> bizarre MC formatting code in the MC recipe files.
>
> Since that time, I write all my recipes in simple ascii text and use
> no dedicated software at all. When I post a recipe, anyone can be cut
> and paste it anywhere, not possible with MC text files. Perhaps MC
> has changed its ways and now files can be convereted or exported as
> simple ascii text files. If so, that's a plus. If not, MC is
> useless, IMO.
>



I am not at all understanding this, nb. I just copied a recipe from
Mastercook v.7. I pasted it into Word Perfect X(3). It formatted
perfectly. Using WP, I "published" the recipe to HTML and checked "open
browser"

Firefox opened and there was the recipe in a perfectly decent and
comprehensible format with not a single extraneous character.

I can repeat the process and send you a screen shot, if you'd like.

Perhaps older versions of Mastercook had proprietary issues, but I have
been using it since 1995 in various versions and I have never had a
problem moving a recipe from Mastercook into any format that displayed
text, including copying recipe from Mastercook and publishing them in
newsletters, either printed of electronic. The recipes also publish
perfectly into PDF.


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On 3/20/2011 1:55 PM, Andy wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
>> software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.

>
>
> You're an old timer!
>
> Who waits for software to arrive in the mailbox???
>
> You CAN buy AND download the software online... in case you hadn't noticed.
>
> Andy


There are problems with the downloadable versions. He did the right thing.

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On Mar 20, 1:44*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> On 3/20/2011 10:55 AM, notbob wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'd be glad to elaborate.

>
> > Many yrs ago, I helped Dams with our rfc website. *I did some of the
> > updating of pages like signature dishes, birthdays, etc. *I was not a
> > html geek, by any means, but knew enough to help out. *Dams would
> > send most of the new recipes as MC files. *Whatta nightmare.

>
> > In order to take an MC recipe file and turn it into usable html code,
> > I practically had to rewrite the entire recipe from scratch. *MC
> > inserted all kinds of proprietary formating code, jes like M$ Word
> > does, that made simple cut and pasting impossible. *In fact, that's
> > what I later did, was jes read the recipe and re-type it in Wordpad as
> > a simple ascii text file. *Much easier than editing/deleting the
> > bizarre MC formatting code in the MC recipe files.

>
> > Since that time, I write all my recipes in simple ascii text and use
> > no dedicated software at all. *When I post a recipe, anyone can be cut
> > and paste it anywhere, not possible with MC text files. *Perhaps MC
> > has changed its ways and now files can be convereted or exported as
> > simple ascii text files. *If so, that's a plus. *If not, MC is
> > useless, IMO.

>
> I am not at all understanding this, nb. *I just copied a recipe from
> Mastercook v.7. *I pasted it into Word Perfect X(3). *It formatted
> perfectly. *Using WP, I "published" the recipe to HTML and checked "open
> browser"
>
> Firefox opened and there was the recipe in a perfectly decent and
> comprehensible format with not a single extraneous character.
>
> I can repeat the process and send you a screen shot, if you'd like.
>
> Perhaps older versions of Mastercook had proprietary issues, but I have
> been using it since 1995 in various versions and I have never had a
> problem moving a recipe from Mastercook into any format that displayed
> text, including copying recipe *from Mastercook and publishing them in
> newsletters, either printed of electronic. The recipes also publish
> perfectly into PDF.
>
> --
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> Spelling doesn't count. *Cooking does.


==
I still use WordPerfect12...and it doesn't format perfectly. I'm too
poor to upgrade to (X)3.
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On 3/20/2011 2:19 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Mar 20, 9:27 am, > wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>>> the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>>> format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>>> material found in those files.
>>> No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>>> around.

>>
>> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
>> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
>> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>>
>> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.

>
> ==
> As viewed from WordPerfect or Word Landon. NOT from the MC program.
> Geez, didn't you know that files from other programs can be viewed
> from word processor pgms. Lots of files can be loaded into Notepad for
> example but you won't make much sense out of them. However one can
> grab certain aspects of files not intended for the WP programs such as
> portions of "text" which can be pasted into other applications.
> ==



I have copied a Mastercook recipe and pasted it into notepad with
perfect results. Even the formatting was correct, which surprised me as
Notepad is famous for screwing up one's formatting.

I don't mind constructive criticism and I know that Mastercook is
certainly not perfect, but I truly don't understand all the criticism
against it.

If y'all are happy using Micro$oft Word, Notepad, Wordpad, Word Perfect
or whatever for your recipes, then stay with it, but if you have not
used Mastercook, then perhaps you might want to limit your criticism to
what you have actually used and not base it on conjecture?

BTW, I have no financial interest in whomever is selling Mastercook
these days. I'm just a satisfied user.

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On Mar 20, 1:52*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> On 3/20/2011 2:19 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 9:27 am, > *wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), >
> >> wrote:

>
> >>> But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
> >>> the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
> >>> format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
> >>> material found in those files.
> >>> No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
> >>> around.

>
> >> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
> >> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
> >> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.

>
> >> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.

>
> > ==
> > As viewed from WordPerfect or Word Landon. NOT from the MC program.
> > Geez, didn't you know that files from other programs can be viewed
> > from word processor pgms. Lots of files can be loaded into Notepad for
> > example but you won't make much sense out of them. However one can
> > grab certain aspects of files not intended for the WP programs such as
> > portions of "text" which can be pasted into other applications.
> > ==

>
> I have copied a Mastercook recipe and pasted it into notepad with
> perfect results. Even the formatting was correct, which surprised me as
> Notepad is famous for screwing up one's formatting.
>
> I don't mind constructive criticism and I know that Mastercook is
> certainly not perfect, but I truly don't understand all the criticism
> against it.
>
> If y'all are happy using Micro$oft Word, Notepad, Wordpad, Word Perfect
> or whatever for your recipes, then stay with it, but if you have not
> used Mastercook, then perhaps you might want to limit your criticism to
> what you have actually used and not base it on conjecture?
>
> BTW, I have no financial interest in whomever is selling Mastercook
> these days. I'm just a satisfied user.
>
> --
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==
I didn't think that I WAS criticizing Master Cook....just saying that
if one doesn't own a copy it is hard to CHEAT and steal recipes
created and formatted by MC. Undoubtedly Master Cook has its fans or
it wouldn't sell.
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On Mar 20, 2:00*pm, Andy > wrote:
> Janet Wilder > wrote:
> > On 3/20/2011 1:55 PM, Andy wrote:
> >> > *wrote:

>
> >>> Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
> >>> software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.

>
> >> You're an old timer!

>
> >> Who waits for software to arrive in the mailbox???

>
> >> You CAN buy AND download the software online... in case you hadn't
> >> noticed.

>
> >> Andy

>
> > There are problems with the downloadable versions. He did the right
> > thing.

>
> Janet,
>
> That makes no sense to me. The frequency of badly stamped CDs is far
> greater than downloading. I have yet to get an unsuccessful download.
> The latest of which was 895 Mbytes of Windows 7 (64) Service pack 1.
>
> A little recipe software would be near impossible to fail a download.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


==
The failure rate on downloading is extremely small nowadays. I haven't
had a download failure in the past seven years. The old dial-up fail
rate was a different story as ISPs were notorious for shutting you
down when the download was 95% downloaded. I used to curse and swear
and rend my garments when that happened.
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Roy wrote:

> ==
> I didn't think that I WAS criticizing Master Cook....just saying that
> if one doesn't own a copy it is hard to CHEAT and steal recipes
> created and formatted by MC. Undoubtedly Master Cook has its fans or
> it wouldn't sell.
> ==


It's very easy to use MC formatted files even if you don't have MC. There
is a freeware MC reader available.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mxpbrowser/

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On Mar 20, 2:10*pm, Mort > wrote:
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> > ==
> > I didn't think that I WAS criticizing Master Cook....just saying that
> > if one doesn't own a copy it is hard to CHEAT and steal recipes
> > created and formatted by MC. Undoubtedly Master Cook has its fans or
> > it wouldn't sell.
> > ==

>
> It's very easy to use MC formatted files even if you don't have MC. There
> is a freeware MC reader available.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mxpbrowser/
>
> --
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==
Thanks Mort, I just downloaded it and will give it a go.
==


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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:10:36 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 20-Mar-2011, Landon > wrote:
>
>> On 20 Mar 2011 15:55:57 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2011-03-20, Landon > wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>> >>>the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>> >>>format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>> >>>material found in those files.
>> >>>No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>> >>>around.
>> >>
>> >> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
>> >> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
>> >> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.
>> >
>> >I'd be glad to elaborate.
>> >
>> >Many yrs ago, I helped Dams with our rfc website. I did some of the
>> >updating of pages like signature dishes, birthdays, etc. I was not a
>> >html geek, by any means, but knew enough to help out. Dams would
>> >send most of the new recipes as MC files. Whatta nightmare.
>> >
>> >In order to take an MC recipe file and turn it into usable html code,
>> >I practically had to rewrite the entire recipe from scratch. MC
>> >inserted all kinds of proprietary formating code, jes like M$ Word
>> >does, that made simple cut and pasting impossible. In fact, that's
>> >what I later did, was jes read the recipe and re-type it in Wordpad as
>> >a simple ascii text file. Much easier than editing/deleting the
>> >bizarre MC formatting code in the MC recipe files.
>> >
>> >Since that time, I write all my recipes in simple ascii text and use
>> >no dedicated software at all. When I post a recipe, anyone can be cut
>> >and paste it anywhere, not possible with MC text files. Perhaps MC
>> >has changed its ways and now files can be convereted or exported as
>> >simple ascii text files. If so, that's a plus. If not, MC is
>> >useless, IMO.
>> >
>> >nb

>>
>> I still don't understand what "proprietary formatting code" you're
>> talking about that would be carried over after a text copy and paste
>> into MS Word. Then, MS Word should export it as HTML or plain text
>> easily without any change in formatting of the actual text.
>>
>> (I've been programming for 30+ years)
>>
>> Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
>> software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.
>>
>> I'll play with it and report back on the results.

>
>The situation nb cites appears to be a case of the blind being led by a
>deaf-mute. For as far back as I can recall, which goes back quite a way,
>beginning with Mastercook v2.0, there has been a way to produce ascii text
>files of idividual or groups of recipes. Often, the default was not ascii
>text, but MC native format which does have embedded, prorietary code.
>Below, see samples of the same recipe exported in MC4 native format and as
>text. In addition to these formats, you could always print to a text file,
>which, worse case, had a few issues with CR/LF vs CR or LF. Had nb asked
>for a text file and his provider knew the various features of MC, there
>would have been no issue in getting clean text files. The following
>examples were produced using MC v8


Exactly as I thought.

Text exports have been around for decades. Knowing how to use a text
export function is a must.
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:44:46 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

>I am not at all understanding this, nb. I just copied a recipe from
>Mastercook v.7. I pasted it into Word Perfect X(3). It formatted
>perfectly. Using WP, I "published" the recipe to HTML and checked "open
>browser"
>
>Firefox opened and there was the recipe in a perfectly decent and
>comprehensible format with not a single extraneous character.
>
>I can repeat the process and send you a screen shot, if you'd like.
>
>Perhaps older versions of Mastercook had proprietary issues, but I have
>been using it since 1995 in various versions and I have never had a
>problem moving a recipe from Mastercook into any format that displayed
>text, including copying recipe from Mastercook and publishing them in
>newsletters, either printed of electronic. The recipes also publish
>perfectly into PDF.



You dang blasted MC shill! Hahahahahaha

I'm crackin me up!

I'm not sure if the email address that shows in your usenet posts is
real, but if you would be so kind to send me the MC Cookbooks you
mentioned, you could send them to:

tpbsaf AT yahoo.com (no space after the tpbsaf)

I would greatly appreciate them.
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On 3/20/2011 2:52 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 3/20/2011 2:19 PM, Roy wrote:
>> On Mar 20, 9:27 am, > wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>>>> the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>>>> format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>>>> material found in those files.
>>>> No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>>>> around.
>>>
>>> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
>>> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
>>> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>>>
>>> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.

>>
>> ==
>> As viewed from WordPerfect or Word Landon. NOT from the MC program.
>> Geez, didn't you know that files from other programs can be viewed
>> from word processor pgms. Lots of files can be loaded into Notepad for
>> example but you won't make much sense out of them. However one can
>> grab certain aspects of files not intended for the WP programs such as
>> portions of "text" which can be pasted into other applications.
>> ==

>
>
> I have copied a Mastercook recipe and pasted it into notepad with
> perfect results. Even the formatting was correct, which surprised me as
> Notepad is famous for screwing up one's formatting.
>
> I don't mind constructive criticism and I know that Mastercook is
> certainly not perfect, but I truly don't understand all the criticism
> against it.
>
> If y'all are happy using Micro$oft Word, Notepad, Wordpad, Word Perfect
> or whatever for your recipes, then stay with it, but if you have not
> used Mastercook, then perhaps you might want to limit your criticism to
> what you have actually used and not base it on conjecture?
>
> BTW, I have no financial interest in whomever is selling Mastercook
> these days. I'm just a satisfied user.
>

Me too Janet. I'm still using MC 7, for which I paid the grand sum of
$7.00 on Amazon some time ago. I grab recipes via copy and paste, paste
them into MC with great success, including recipes from this group.
Works for me.
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:19:22 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
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>On Mar 20, 9:27*am, Landon > wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >But I don't have Master Cook and only use WordPerfect to either copy
>> >the UseNet file (text) or if it is a Master Cook file in its own
>> >format I just copy the main recipe and leave out all of the extraneous
>> >material found in those files.
>> >No hassle really...there is just a lot of MC formatting crap to get
>> >around.

>>
>> Hello Roy, if you would please take the time to post an example of
>> what you consider "a lot of MC formatting crap" from an actual MC
>> recipe, I'd really appreciate it.
>>
>> I'd like to understand what it is you are talking about.

>
>==
>As viewed from WordPerfect or Word Landon. NOT from the MC program.
>Geez, didn't you know that files from other programs can be viewed
>from word processor pgms. Lots of files can be loaded into Notepad for
>example but you won't make much sense out of them. However one can
>grab certain aspects of files not intended for the WP programs such as
>portions of "text" which can be pasted into other applications.
>==


After more than 30 years of programming, I absolutely know that almost
any file can be opened with many, many programs not intended to view
those files.

I have problems relating to beginners and those who have never taken
the time to use the software they have properly.

There are a bunch of wrong ways to import. There usually is only one
right way. Knowing that one way is the difference between a well
versed PC user and one who hasn't bothered to learn how to use the
machine.

Not trying to bust anyone's butt here, but really...this is too easy
to learn.
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Landon wrote:

> You dang blasted MC shill! Hahahahahaha
>
> I'm crackin me up!
>
> I'm not sure if the email address that shows in your usenet posts is
> real, but if you would be so kind to send me the MC Cookbooks you
> mentioned, you could send them to:
>
> tpbsaf AT yahoo.com (no space after the tpbsaf)
>
> I would greatly appreciate them.


Have at it

http://www.madsrecipes.com/

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:52:30 -0500, Janet Wilder
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>BTW, I have no financial interest in whomever is selling Mastercook
>these days. I'm just a satisfied user.


Shill! Shill!

Hahahahaahahahaha, what fun!
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:28:42 -0700, Mort > wrote:

>Landon wrote:
>
>> You dang blasted MC shill! Hahahahahaha
>>
>> I'm crackin me up!
>>
>> I'm not sure if the email address that shows in your usenet posts is
>> real, but if you would be so kind to send me the MC Cookbooks you
>> mentioned, you could send them to:
>>
>> tpbsaf AT yahoo.com (no space after the tpbsaf)
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate them.

>
>Have at it
>
>http://www.madsrecipes.com/


Thanks Mort. Janet Wilder said she had some cookbooks of recipes she's
personally tried. I prefer that to the massive collections that are
available.

That's a cool site. I've book marked it.
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:00:08 -0500, Andy > wrote:

> Janet Wilder > wrote:
>
> > On 3/20/2011 1:55 PM, Andy wrote:
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perhaps I'll understand what all the complaints are about once my MC
> >>> software has arrived. I should get it tomorrow.
> >>
> >>
> >> You're an old timer!
> >>
> >> Who waits for software to arrive in the mailbox???
> >>
> >> You CAN buy AND download the software online... in case you hadn't
> >> noticed.
> >>
> >> Andy

> >
> > There are problems with the downloadable versions. He did the right
> > thing.

>
>
> Janet,
>
> That makes no sense to me. The frequency of badly stamped CDs is far
> greater than downloading. I have yet to get an unsuccessful download.
> The latest of which was 895 Mbytes of Windows 7 (64) Service pack 1.
>
> A little recipe software would be near impossible to fail a download.
>

I imagine he'll be able to download a copy from the net if his CD is
hosed. I don't see a problem with him having a hard copy back up.
He'll probably put a copy on his portable drive too.

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my biggest shock was when i learned my father was an excellent cook beyond
grilling, Lee
"M. JL Esq." > wrote in message
...
> Storrmmee wrote:
>
>> one grandmother has taken the next step, the other no longer cooks except
>> for the most basic,... and not often for that... my mom and sister have
>> all the recipes and sister has the knack for baking that grandmother had,
>> Lee

>
> I have e a pleasant memory of coming home on leave from the military and
> being reluctant to let me mum cook for me purchased a number of big frozen
> meals, salisbury steak, lasagne & etc. It was an epiphany for me mum, she
> had not had them, never thought of purchasing them, and became a complete
> convert to them.
>
> For all she was a very good cook her definition of good food was anything
> she did not have to cook
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:22:54 -0400, Landon > wrote:

> You dang blasted MC shill! Hahahahahaha


I was only talking about the columns and their headings, which I have
to clear manually after I "clear formatting", which is probably HTML
formatting, not Master Cook's. I don't keep recipes in MC format, so
I have nothing to paste into this post to illustrate.

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