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Manda Ruby 21-01-2011 04:41 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Superprotein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
I have about 20 Expired "Fiber One" oatmeal and strawberry bars
(expired on Aug 21, 2010) and 31"Odwalla" original Super protein bars
(expired on Dec 25, 2010).

Odwalla bars probably are safe for another 3-4 months but how soon
should I finishing consuming the Fiber One bars? Or should I throw
away the Fiber One bars? I know for a fact that if I give away on
Craigslist, no one would tale them.

Thanks for any suggestion.



Melba's Jammin' 21-01-2011 05:38 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
In article
>,
Manda Ruby > wrote:

> I have about 20 Expired "Fiber One" oatmeal and strawberry bars
> (expired on Aug 21, 2010) and 31"Odwalla" original Super protein bars
> (expired on Dec 25, 2010).
>
> Odwalla bars probably are safe for another 3-4 months but how soon
> should I finishing consuming the Fiber One bars? Or should I throw
> away the Fiber One bars? I know for a fact that if I give away on
> Craigslist, no one would tale them.
>
> Thanks for any suggestion.


Throw them away. If you eat them, you are at risk of developing ingrown
toenails.

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
http://web.me.com/barbschaller

Tracy[_2_] 21-01-2011 09:00 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 


On 1/21/2011 11:19 AM, Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:41:22 -0800 (PST), Manda Ruby
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for any suggestion.

>
> But a homeless shelter might.
>
>

What makes you think a homeless shelter would want/take expired
food? You think they don't care what kind of food they serve?

Expired food should be tossed.

Tracy



Mr. Bill[_2_] 21-01-2011 09:08 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:00:51 -0500, Tracy > wrote:

>What makes you think a homeless shelter would want/take expired
>food? You think they don't care what kind of food they serve?


Homeless don't consider dumpster diving un do able.

Julie Bove[_2_] 21-01-2011 11:17 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 

"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> On 1/21/2011 11:19 AM, Mr. Bill wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:41:22 -0800 (PST), Manda Ruby
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestion.

>>
>> But a homeless shelter might.
>>
>>

> What makes you think a homeless shelter would want/take expired food? You
> think they don't care what kind of food they serve?
>
> Expired food should be tossed.


Agreed! I had a friend who worked at a soup kitchen in Seattle. This was
in the days when expiration dates were not required. But he said he knew
some of the food was stale because he tasted it. He said bakeries would
often drop off really old seasonal stuff. Like Valentines cookies months
after Valentines day. He said he hated having to serve them the bad tasting
stuff.



Mr. Bill[_2_] 21-01-2011 11:25 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:46:10 -0800, HumBug! >
wrote:

>There is a huge difference between "USE by", and "best by"...


Exactly...wrap a dollar bill around one and give one to the homeless
person at the end of the exit ramp tonight. Bet they will take it.
I doubt with all sincerity, they are going to look at the wrapper
date.




Melba's Jammin' 22-01-2011 12:09 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
In article >,
Tracy > wrote:

> Expired food should be tossed.
>
> Tracy


I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
http://web.me.com/barbschaller

Tracy[_4_] 22-01-2011 12:38 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On 1/21/2011 6:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>
>> Tracy

>
> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>

Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
food I won't eat, but you can have it".

Tracy

Tracy[_4_] 22-01-2011 12:40 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On 1/21/2011 3:08 PM, Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:00:51 -0500, > wrote:
>
>> What makes you think a homeless shelter would want/take expired
>> food? You think they don't care what kind of food they serve?

>
> Homeless don't consider dumpster diving un do able.


Dumpster diving is very different from donating obviously expired food
to a shelter.

Tracy

Mr. Bill[_2_] 22-01-2011 12:41 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:09:31 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?


Processed and "packaged" food might endure Hiroshima....<vbg>

...but your mileage may vary...



George Shirley[_2_] 22-01-2011 01:45 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On 1/21/2011 5:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>
>> Tracy

>
> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>


Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I
am I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I
could convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!

George Shirley[_2_] 22-01-2011 01:46 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On 1/21/2011 5:41 PM, Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:09:31 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?

>
> Processed and "packaged" food might endure Hiroshima....<vbg>
>
> ..but your mileage may vary...
>
>

At least the radioactive roaches will have something to eat.

Boron Elgar[_1_] 22-01-2011 02:34 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:45:31 -0600, George Shirley
> wrote:

>On 1/21/2011 5:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>>
>>> Tracy

>>
>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>

>
>Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I
>am I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I
>could convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!



I just found a jar of something that had sneaked its way to the back
of my highest kitchen shelf and taken up residence. It was shrimp
paste. Had a use by date of early 2006. That is gone now.

Usually, I am lenient with my expired foodstuffs, but something about
this screamed "toss me, please," and I obliged.

Boron

Cheryl[_3_] 22-01-2011 02:51 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On 1/21/2011 8:19 PM, Tracy wrote:
> I don't mean to not throw away perfectly good food just because of the
> sell by date or use by date. What I am trying to say is it is wrong to
> try to give away or donate food you _would not eat_ to a homeless
> shelter. It's fake altruism. If you want to donate to a shelter, at
> least give them something fresh. It's that simple.


But while AmandaF wouldn't eat something that "expired" Dec 2010, I
would eat it. If she doesn't want to eat it, others probably would.

George Shirley[_2_] 22-01-2011 03:06 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On 1/21/2011 7:34 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:45:31 -0600, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/2011 5:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>>

>>
>> Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I
>> am I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I
>> could convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!

>
>
> I just found a jar of something that had sneaked its way to the back
> of my highest kitchen shelf and taken up residence. It was shrimp
> paste. Had a use by date of early 2006. That is gone now.
>
> Usually, I am lenient with my expired foodstuffs, but something about
> this screamed "toss me, please," and I obliged.
>
> Boron


Anything with seafood in it that is that old I would toss too. When an
elderly relative died many years ago I helped my cousin clean out his
Mom's pantry. Had home canned stuff in there that had to be from the
early forties maybe earlier. The lids had rusted off, some jars had
bubbled over. I guess my auld auntie just couldn't see or smell that
well anymore. I did salvage the jars though.

Brooklyn1 22-01-2011 03:15 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
George Shirley wrote:
>
>Anything with seafood in it that is that old I would toss too. When an
>elderly relative died many years ago I helped my cousin clean out his
>Mom's pantry. Had home canned stuff in there that had to be from the
>early forties maybe earlier. The lids had rusted off, some jars had
>bubbled over. I guess my auld auntie just couldn't see or smell that
>well anymore. I did salvage the jars though.


That it was from 1940s with rust and was leaky and smelly had nothing
to do with seafood... my ex would qualify. LOL

Melba's Jammin' 22-01-2011 04:39 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
In article >,
Tracy > wrote:
> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
> food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>
> Tracy


I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support, Best
By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries are
received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the needy. (I
wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets distributed
among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but it would not
surprise me.)

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
http://web.me.com/barbschaller

Melba's Jammin' 22-01-2011 05:27 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
In article >,
Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
> won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
> themselves wouldn't eat...


Speak for yourself.
I try to buy what is requested, whether it's canned meat, dry pasta,
toilet paper, or peanut butter (staples that are part of the standard
bag).

> a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
> dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens,


Ohfer!! She didn't suggest that they have kitchens; she referred to
shelters for the homeless. Somewhere in there the subject of food
shelves became part of the discussion.

The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
<shrug>
--
Barb
Today's frozen soap bubble pics are posted he
http://gallery.me.com/barbschaller#100375

Julie Bove[_2_] 22-01-2011 06:09 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 

"Tracy" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/21/2011 6:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>>
>>> Tracy

>>
>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>

> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate obviously
> expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired food I won't
> eat, but you can have it".


Agreed. That being said, I do toss most expired food. It all depends on
what it is and how long past the expiration date of course.



Julie Bove[_2_] 22-01-2011 06:15 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
>> won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
>> themselves wouldn't eat...

>
> Speak for yourself.
> I try to buy what is requested, whether it's canned meat, dry pasta,
> toilet paper, or peanut butter (staples that are part of the standard
> bag).
>
>> a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
>> dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens,

>
> Ohfer!! She didn't suggest that they have kitchens; she referred to
> shelters for the homeless. Somewhere in there the subject of food
> shelves became part of the discussion.
>
> The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
> support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
> Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
> Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
> out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
> <shrug>


There was talk on the radio here some years back about how many truly needy
people not only do not have a stove or microwave to cook or heat anything on
but often do not have any dishes to serve the food on. For that reason it
was suggested that we donate things like canned pasta that could be eaten as
is.

I do not necessarily do that, but this is the type of food my daughter picks
because she thinks kids would like it. If I donate macaroni and cheese, I
make sure to get the kind that doesn't require any milk, butter or margarine
because I know they don't necessarily have that in the house.

I do donate pouches or cans of chicken and also pouches of precooked,
flavored or plain rice. Yes, I know it is much cheaper to donate raw rice.
And if it is specifically asked for, I will. But I do know there will be
some who do not have a pot to cook it in or a stove to cook it on.



Julie Bove[_2_] 22-01-2011 06:24 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/21/2011 7:34 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:45:31 -0600, George Shirley
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/21/2011 5:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>>> In >,
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>>>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>>>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I
>>> am I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I
>>> could convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!

>>
>>
>> I just found a jar of something that had sneaked its way to the back
>> of my highest kitchen shelf and taken up residence. It was shrimp
>> paste. Had a use by date of early 2006. That is gone now.
>>
>> Usually, I am lenient with my expired foodstuffs, but something about
>> this screamed "toss me, please," and I obliged.
>>
>> Boron

>
> Anything with seafood in it that is that old I would toss too. When an
> elderly relative died many years ago I helped my cousin clean out his
> Mom's pantry. Had home canned stuff in there that had to be from the early
> forties maybe earlier. The lids had rusted off, some jars had bubbled
> over. I guess my auld auntie just couldn't see or smell that well anymore.
> I did salvage the jars though.


We once had a food drive for the needy at work. This was many years ago and
pull dates were somewhat of a new thing. Most foods did not have them and
they certainly were not required.

My friend's dad had died a few years prior and she finally got around to
cleaning out his kitchen. She donated much of what she found in there which
for some reason was mainly cake mixes. There were a few odd flavors that I
remembered from my childhood. I do not think they were still being made at
the time. The boxes were all faded and covered in dust.

I was pretty angry about it but another coworker was even more angry so she
picked out the obviously ancient things and tossed them in the trash.

My friend then noticed that her things were missing from the box. She
actually thought someone had stolen them to eat for themselves!

The person who threw them out then told her that one of the other employees
had taken some of the food to be put in the baskets but they only had enough
room in the vehicles to deliver so many things that day. The rest would be
delivered the following day. We had made up baskets using large laundry
baskets and there were also paper goods, cleaning supplies, toiletries and
other things.

My friend seemed happy then and seemed to have bought that excuse for her
missing things.

I do sometimes donate things from my cupboard. Sometimes I buy things
thinking we will like them and we don't. Sometimes I just lose my head
temporarily and buy a lot of something like canned beets, thinking I will
eat them every day. And then I don't. Or sometimes I just need a can or
two of something for a school event or some child comes to the door
collecting. But mostly I buy new food to donate.



Nancy Young[_2_] 22-01-2011 03:36 PM

LIFO or FIFO? (Was Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010))
 
jmcquown wrote:

> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the
> pantry to the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting
> method. Who else does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)


Anything I stock up on, the new goes behind the old. I'm not
rabid about it or anything, but it makes sense to use up what
is older first. I rotate a lot of stuff, not just food. From towels
to underwear, the freshly laundered goes on the bottom. Occasionally
I rotate the dishes and drinkware if it's been a while since they were
used.

Of course, when I clean out the freezer once in a while, or the
pantry cabinet, there's always a surprise item or two that managed
to hide.

nancy



Brooklyn1 22-01-2011 04:25 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:39:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Tracy > wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
>> food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>
>> Tracy

>
>I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support, Best
>By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries are
>received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the needy. (I
>wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets distributed
>among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but it would not
>surprise me.)


Of course the volunteer workers get to pick through first... that's
the main reason why they volunteer.

Brooklyn1 22-01-2011 04:39 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:27:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
>> won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
>> themselves wouldn't eat...

>
>Speak for yourself.
>I try to buy what is requested, whether it's canned meat, dry pasta,
>toilet paper, or peanut butter (staples that are part of the standard
>bag).
>
>> a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
>> dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens,

>
>Ohfer!! She didn't suggest that they have kitchens; she referred to
>shelters for the homeless. Somewhere in there the subject of food
>shelves became part of the discussion.
>
>The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
>support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
>Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
>Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
>out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
><shrug>


And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
scam. The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive their
food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company cafeterias,
etc... Walmart donates more than all the rest combined. If you truly
wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen to prepare
and serve the food.

Steve Pope 22-01-2011 04:46 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
>volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
>you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
>because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
>their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
>scam. The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive their
>food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company cafeterias,
>etc... Walmart donates more than all the rest combined. If you truly
>wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen to prepare
>and serve the food.


I agree.

In our area OneBrick lists the opportunities to go in an assemble
the box lunches and similar meals, generally a 6 hour stint
at a church or community center. These volunteer slots are
always oversubscribed. Actual cooks doing cooking
are either paid, or are more carefully selected volunteers.

But there may be geographical areas where the industry food donations
are low enough (for whatever reason) that they do need donations
from consumers. This situation can also arise temoporarily if there
is an incident like a storm or earthquake.

Steve

Manda Ruby 22-01-2011 04:47 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" originalSuper protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
On Jan 21, 5:51*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 1/21/2011 8:19 PM, Tracy wrote:
>
> > I don't mean to not throw away perfectly good food just because of the
> > sell by date or use by date. What I am trying to say is it is wrong to
> > try to give away or donate food you _would not eat_ to a homeless
> > shelter. It's fake altruism. If you want to donate to a shelter, at
> > least give them something fresh. It's that simple.

>
> But while AmandaF wouldn't eat something that "expired" Dec 2010, I
> would eat it. *If she doesn't want to eat it, others probably would.


Do you mean that you don't have common sense that I can't possibly eat
all these food in a very short period (like a week) and hence
contemplated about giving it away (to those who can choose not to
accept or accept? Even if nutritional value is not the same, the fiber
is still there.

Brooklyn1 22-01-2011 05:42 PM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
Steve Pope wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
>>volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
>>you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
>>because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
>>their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
>>scam. The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive their
>>food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company cafeterias,
>>etc... Walmart donates more than all the rest combined. If you truly
>>wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen to prepare
>>and serve the food.

>
>I agree.
>
>In our area OneBrick lists the opportunities to go in an assemble
>the box lunches and similar meals, generally a 6 hour stint
>at a church or community center. These volunteer slots are
>always oversubscribed. Actual cooks doing cooking
>are either paid, or are more carefully selected volunteers.


That's pretty much how Meals On Wheels operates... I used to volunteer
as a driver rather than prepare the food... the ingredients arrived by
the truck load primarily from local food markets. Dunkin Donuts
donated whatever wasn't sold at close of day, I know because that was
my first stop of the day... Entennman's Bakery delivered their
donation early each morning. Many food companys donate, they receive
the tax deduction... McD's is a huge donator. They really didn't want
donations from private citizens (other than money).

>But there may be geographical areas where the industry food donations
>are low enough (for whatever reason) that they do need donations
>from consumers.


That does occur but would be pretty rare in the US... there are
stupidmarkets, fast food joints, etc. everywhere.

>This situation can also arise temoporarily if there
>is an incident like a storm or earthquake.


During emergencies military style kitchens are set up, that's what the
Red Cross does. The thing is they don't want the oddball foods that
private citizens would donate, they'd not be prepared (or even
transported to location) so they'd just go to waste.

If one happens to know a poor family living nearby the best thing to
do would be to bring them a shopping basket of basic groceries
directly... donating to local food banks the best items are skimmed...
and that's exactly how thrift shops operate as well, when someone dies
and the Salvation Army truck arrives to pick up the contents of their
home the good stuff never gets to the thrift shop.

I donate to a local animal shelter. About once a month I drop off a
car load of dried pet food, never cash.

Steve Pope 22-01-2011 05:45 PM

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In article >,
Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>I donate to a local animal shelter. About once a month I drop off a
>car load of dried pet food, never cash.


We end up giving cat food to rescue operations, because our
cats tend to shift between different types of food either
because their food prescription changes, or their preferences
change. So there is usually excess cat food... but it never
goes to waste.


S.

Ross@home 22-01-2011 06:25 PM

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:41:22 -0800 (PST), Manda Ruby
> wrote:

>I have about 20 Expired "Fiber One" oatmeal and strawberry bars
>(expired on Aug 21, 2010) and 31"Odwalla" original Super protein bars
>(expired on Dec 25, 2010).
>
>Odwalla bars probably are safe for another 3-4 months but how soon
>should I finishing consuming the Fiber One bars? Or should I throw
>away the Fiber One bars? I know for a fact that if I give away on
>Craigslist, no one would tale them.
>
>Thanks for any suggestion.
>


One only has to start reading the Subject line, to *know* who the
poster will turn out to be.
Eat all the Fiber One bars at one sitting, they may help with your
condition.

Ross.

blake murphy[_2_] 22-01-2011 07:00 PM

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:38:55 -0500, Tracy wrote:

> On 1/21/2011 6:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>>
>>> Tracy

>>
>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>

> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
> food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>
> Tracy


you might call them and ask what their policy is. but you're right, it
does seem kinda bush league.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy[_2_] 22-01-2011 07:05 PM

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:39:32 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:27:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
>>support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
>>Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
>>Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
>>out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
>><shrug>

>
> And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
> volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
> you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
> because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
> their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
> scam.


not everyone is a chiseling scumbag like you, sheldon.

blake

blake murphy[_2_] 22-01-2011 07:07 PM

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:25:47 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:39:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> Tracy > wrote:
>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
>>> food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>>
>>> Tracy

>>
>>I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support, Best
>>By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries are
>>received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the needy. (I
>>wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets distributed
>>among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but it would not
>>surprise me.)

>
> Of course the volunteer workers get to pick through first... that's
> the main reason why they volunteer.


that's the reason a cheap chiseler like *you* would volunteer. most
people are a little more honest.

blake

blake murphy[_2_] 22-01-2011 07:08 PM

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:46:36 -0600, George Shirley wrote:

> On 1/21/2011 5:41 PM, Mr. Bill wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:09:31 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?

>>
>> Processed and "packaged" food might endure Hiroshima....<vbg>
>>
>> ..but your mileage may vary...
>>
>>

> At least the radioactive roaches will have something to eat.


assume a can opener...

your pal,
blake

Melba's Jammin' 23-01-2011 12:11 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
In article >,
Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:27:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
> >> won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
> >> themselves wouldn't eat...

> >
> >Speak for yourself.
> >I try to buy what is requested, whether it's canned meat, dry pasta,
> >toilet paper, or peanut butter (staples that are part of the standard
> >bag).
> >
> >> a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
> >> dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens,

> >
> >Ohfer!! She didn't suggest that they have kitchens; she referred to
> >shelters for the homeless. Somewhere in there the subject of food
> >shelves became part of the discussion.
> >
> >The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
> >support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
> >Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
> >Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
> >out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
> ><shrug>

>
> And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
> volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do).


Mmm, I don't think so. I don't have the post but I'm pretty sure my
remark concerned "expired" products -- that they are removed from what
gets to be distributed and that I did not know what happened to them
(the expired products not allowed to be distributed to the needy).



> If you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big
> fool, because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to
> buy their own.


<shrug> In order to receive goods from my food shelf, they have to be
referred to it by one of the local social agencies. If they scam
someone in order to get free food, I'd rather err that way than deny
food to someone.

> Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a
> big scam.


Bullshit. While it is true that monetary donations get more product for
the same amount of money because of quantity or wholesale buying, there
are lots of people who far and away prefer to donate food or the dry
goods that food stamps don't cover instead of giving money. It's a feel
good thing and you don't get to be the arbiter of anyone's motives for
doing either.

> The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive
> their food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company
> cafeterias, etc...


Bullshit. Restaurants and company cafeterias may well provide leftover
prepared food or meals--good for them. But that category of foodstuffs
is not in the purview of the organization I support.


> Walmart donates more than all the rest combined.


Good for Walmart.

> If you truly wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup
> kitchen to prepare and serve the food.


How do you know that I don't do just that? <8-P

--
Barb
http://gallery.me.com/barbschaller

dejablues 23-01-2011 12:19 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
Manda Ruby wrote:
> On Jan 21, 5:51 pm, Cheryl > wrote:
>> On 1/21/2011 8:19 PM, Tracy wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mean to not throw away perfectly good food just because of
>>> the sell by date or use by date. What I am trying to say is it is
>>> wrong to try to give away or donate food you _would not eat_ to a
>>> homeless shelter. It's fake altruism. If you want to donate to a
>>> shelter, at least give them something fresh. It's that simple.

>>
>> But while AmandaF wouldn't eat something that "expired" Dec 2010, I
>> would eat it. If she doesn't want to eat it, others probably would.

>
> Do you mean that you don't have common sense that I can't possibly eat
> all these food in a very short period (like a week) and hence
> contemplated about giving it away (to those who can choose not to
> accept or accept? Even if nutritional value is not the same, the fiber
> is still there.


You had the lack of common sense to aquire more food than you could eat.



dejablues 23-01-2011 12:21 AM

Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
 
Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Tracy > wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some
>> expired food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>
>> Tracy

>
> I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support,
> Best By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries
> are received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the
> needy. (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets
> distributed among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but
> it would not surprise me.)


From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual food
drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.



Brooklyn1 23-01-2011 03:26 AM

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:21:23 -0500, "dejablues"
> wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Tracy > wrote:
>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some
>>> expired food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>>
>>> Tracy

>>
>> I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support,
>> Best By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries
>> are received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the
>> needy. (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets
>> distributed among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but
>> it would not surprise me.)

>
>From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual food
>drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
>all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.


What I'm amazed at is how ignorant they are to toss perfectly good
food that folks would be happy to receive. Best-used-by dates mean
exactly that, doesn't mean expired/unfit to eat. No one could
possibly tell that a bottle of ketchup was past it's "best used by"
date... even Stan couln't say. I have eaten canned beets way past
their best-used-by date, perfectly wholesome. I don't think anyone is
donating a raw cod fish caught last week and kept in the trunk of
their car in 90º weather... big difference from a can of Bumble Bee
tuna past its best-used-by date. This morning I opened a can of
Carnation Evap, on the bottom of the can it says "Best Used By
07/17/2011". Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . I'll bet it would
still be good by 07/17/2111. ****in' idiots!

Folks are getting carried away with this use-by nonsense... won't be
long they'll print best used by on a box of salt, like salt is gonna
spoil, it's only been here since this planet was created.


dejablues 23-01-2011 04:44 AM

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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:21:23 -0500, "dejablues"
> > wrote:
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Tracy > wrote:
>>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>>>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>>>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some
>>>> expired food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support,
>>> Best By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries
>>> are received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the
>>> needy. (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets
>>> distributed among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but
>>> it would not surprise me.)

>>
>>From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual
>>food
>>drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
>>all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.

>
> What I'm amazed at is how ignorant they are to toss perfectly good
> food that folks would be happy to receive. Best-used-by dates mean
> exactly that, doesn't mean expired/unfit to eat. No one could
> possibly tell that a bottle of ketchup was past it's "best used by"
> date... even Stan couln't say. I have eaten canned beets way past
> their best-used-by date, perfectly wholesome. I don't think anyone is
> donating a raw cod fish caught last week and kept in the trunk of
> their car in 90º weather... big difference from a can of Bumble Bee
> tuna past its best-used-by date. This morning I opened a can of
> Carnation Evap, on the bottom of the can it says "Best Used By
> 07/17/2011". Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . I'll bet it would
> still be good by 07/17/2111. ****in' idiots!
>
> Folks are getting carried away with this use-by nonsense... won't be
> long they'll print best used by on a box of salt, like salt is gonna
> spoil, it's only been here since this planet was created.


Food banks are not allowed to give out expired foods. If you would not eat
it, do not donate it.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2011 05:47 AM

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"dejablues" > wrote in message
...
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Tracy > wrote:
>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some
>>> expired food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>>
>>> Tracy

>>
>> I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support,
>> Best By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries
>> are received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the
>> needy. (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets
>> distributed among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but
>> it would not surprise me.)

>
> From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual
> food drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets
> donated. It all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.


I can imagine!



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2011 05:53 AM

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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:21:23 -0500, "dejablues"
> > wrote:
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Tracy > wrote:
>>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>>>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>>>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some
>>>> expired food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support,
>>> Best By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries
>>> are received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the
>>> needy. (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets
>>> distributed among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but
>>> it would not surprise me.)

>>
>>From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual
>>food
>>drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
>>all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.

>
> What I'm amazed at is how ignorant they are to toss perfectly good
> food that folks would be happy to receive. Best-used-by dates mean
> exactly that, doesn't mean expired/unfit to eat. No one could
> possibly tell that a bottle of ketchup was past it's "best used by"
> date... even Stan couln't say. I have eaten canned beets way past
> their best-used-by date, perfectly wholesome. I don't think anyone is
> donating a raw cod fish caught last week and kept in the trunk of
> their car in 90º weather... big difference from a can of Bumble Bee
> tuna past its best-used-by date. This morning I opened a can of
> Carnation Evap, on the bottom of the can it says "Best Used By
> 07/17/2011". Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . I'll bet it would
> still be good by 07/17/2111. ****in' idiots!
>
> Folks are getting carried away with this use-by nonsense... won't be
> long they'll print best used by on a box of salt, like salt is gonna
> spoil, it's only been here since this planet was created.


I have eaten "best by" things that were past their date. Some seemed to
taste fine. Others, like chips, did not. I just ate sourdough bread that
expired on the 18th. It wasn't moldy but was a bit dried out. Would have
been fine for toast or a grilled cheese sandwich. But it was kind of
crumbly for my turkey sandwich.

I have bought the kind of cheese that was cut from a big wheel. It tends to
go moldy if much past the "sell by" date. I used to buy a flaxseed bread
that I could never eat all of before it expired. It was always moldy by the
"sell by" date and often moldy three days before! I quit buying it.

Would I take expired food if someone gave it to me because it was free?
Nope. But I have seen people who would. Example, some kind of potato chips
at my daughter's dance studio. They could not sell them because they were
expired but employees there were eating them and they were also offered to
me.

When I did eat the expired chips, I didn't realize they were expired until I
tasted them. They were not very crisp and had a dull flavor.




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