Not too far back we had some threads on the thermal fragility of glass
cookware. I don't recqll whether it was on r.f.c. or r.f.e, but
anyay there's a nice article on the topic in the latest (January 2011)
issue of Consumer Reports.

Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).

It's a good read for those who like cooking in glass, and might help
people avoid some bad surprises and painful injuries.

Alex

Chemiker wrote:
>
> Not too far back we had some threads on the thermal fragility of glass
> cookware. I don't recqll whether it was on r.f.c. or r.f.e, but
> anyay there's a nice article on the topic in the latest (January 2011)
> issue of Consumer Reports.
>
> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>
> It's a good read for those who like cooking in glass, and might help
> people avoid some bad surprises and painful injuries.
>
> Alex

I believe it was the Pyrex brand name in the consumer realm that was
purchased, not the expensive borosilicate glass plants, and that is why
the new Pyrex branded consumer articles are inferior soda lime glass. I
think the Pyrex name and borosilicate glass may still be alive in the
lab glassware world.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:22:00 -0600, "Pete C." >
wrote:


>I believe it was the Pyrex brand name in the consumer realm that was
>purchased, not the expensive borosilicate glass plants, and that is why
>the new Pyrex branded consumer articles are inferior soda lime glass. I
>think the Pyrex name and borosilicate glass may still be alive in the
>lab glassware world.

I would hope so. Corning (Pyrex) and Kimble (Kimax) were the mainstays
of the lab when I retired a few years back. But your point is well
taken, especially with the amount of imported labware nowadays. At
least lab people could be expected to be more knowledgeable about
glass quality than the average Joe in the kitchen.

Thanks.

Alex

Chemiker wrote:

> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).


FYI-
One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!

Chemiker wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:22:00 -0600, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
>
>> I believe it was the Pyrex brand name in the consumer realm that was
>> purchased, not the expensive borosilicate glass plants, and that is why
>> the new Pyrex branded consumer articles are inferior soda lime glass. I
>> think the Pyrex name and borosilicate glass may still be alive in the
>> lab glassware world.
>
> I would hope so. Corning (Pyrex) and Kimble (Kimax) were the mainstays
> of the lab when I retired a few years back. But your point is well
> taken, especially with the amount of imported labware nowadays. At
> least lab people could be expected to be more knowledgeable about
> glass quality than the average Joe in the kitchen.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alex

Wouldn't that knowledge come from experience? And isn't there (or
wasn't there?) a basic assumption that if a lab used a certain
manufacturer's equipment that it would remain usable? Or that a
product intended for task A would be suitable for said task? I
hope that is more true in the scientific relam than it seems to be
in the cooking realm.

--
Jean B.

Goomba wrote:
>
> Chemiker wrote:
>
> > Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
> > their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
> > Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
> > Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
> > guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
> > Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>
> FYI-
> One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
> glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
> low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!

Just be cautious and inspect the items carefully. There's no way of
knowing the history of any piece. Certain stresses/types of damage can
cause the cookware to fail unexpectedly. Might be wise to stay away from
any piece with nicks or scratches.

Arri London wrote:
>
> Goomba wrote:
>> Chemiker wrote:
>>
>>> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
>>> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
>>> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
>>> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
>>> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
>>> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>> FYI-
>> One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
>> glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
>> low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!
>
> Just be cautious and inspect the items carefully. There's no way of
> knowing the history of any piece. Certain stresses/types of damage can
> cause the cookware to fail unexpectedly. Might be wise to stay away from
> any piece with nicks or scratches.

Also, there is no way of knowing how old much of the stuff in such
stores is. Sure, I assume such cookware with certain designs stem
from before this was an issue, but the plain things?

--
Jean B.

On 1/12/2011 3:02 PM, Chemiker wrote:
> Not too far back we had some threads on the thermal fragility of glass
> cookware. I don't recqll whether it was on r.f.c. or r.f.e, but
> anyay there's a nice article on the topic in the latest (January 2011)
> issue of Consumer Reports.
>
> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>
> It's a good read for those who like cooking in glass, and might help
> people avoid some bad surprises and painful injuries.
>
> Alex

Corning exited the glass/ceramic glass cookware business. They sold off
that part of their business (and the brand names) to "World Glass" who
immediately started producing big box quality lower quality product by
substituting cheaper materials for the the ceramic glass in
"corningware" and borosilicate glass in "pyrex"

On 1/13/2011 5:30 AM, George wrote:

> Corning exited the glass/ceramic glass cookware business. They sold off
> that part of their business (and the brand names) to "World Glass" who
> immediately started producing big box quality lower quality product by
> substituting cheaper materials for the the ceramic glass in
> "corningware" and borosilicate glass in "pyrex"

Apparently, pyroceram 'CorningWare' products are now being produced in
France. - much nicer than the stoneware being sold as Corningware over
the past few years.

S wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:49:51 -0500:

>> Corning exited the glass/ceramic glass cookware business.
>> They sold off that part of their business (and the brand
>> names) to "World Glass" who immediately started producing big
>> box quality lower quality product by substituting cheaper
>> materials for the the ceramic glass in "corningware" and
>> borosilicate glass in "pyrex"

>Apparently, pyroceram 'CorningWare' products are now being produced in
>France. - much nicer than the stoneware being sold as Corningware over
>the past few years.

Is there a source in the US for these real pyroceram dishes? I'd like to
buy one or two to replace the real Corningware that has succumbed to
accidents as well as the current fake stuff.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 1/13/2011 8:54 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> S wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:49:51 -0500:
>
>>> Corning exited the glass/ceramic glass cookware business.
>>> They sold off that part of their business (and the brand
>>> names) to "World Glass" who immediately started producing big
>>> box quality lower quality product by substituting cheaper
>>> materials for the the ceramic glass in "corningware" and
>>> borosilicate glass in "pyrex"
>
>> Apparently, pyroceram 'CorningWare' products are now being produced in
>> France. - much nicer than the stoneware being sold as Corningware over
>> the past few years.
>
> Is there a source in the US for these real pyroceram dishes? I'd like to
> buy one or two to replace the real Corningware that has succumbed to
> accidents as well as the current fake stuff.
>
On a Xmas-shopping expedition, I discovered a shop in Jersey Gardens (a
giant mall near Newark airport). They even had replacement storage
lids! Good thing, too - I had a batch that went very brittle, and had
to be tossed, so I was _very_ happy to be able to replace them.
Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the shop, but they should be
googleable.

I've found a few replacement pieces on eBay, but prices vary wildly.

"Jean B." wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> >
> > Goomba wrote:
> >> Chemiker wrote:
> >>
> >>> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
> >>> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
> >>> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
> >>> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
> >>> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
> >>> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
> >> FYI-
> >> One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
> >> glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
> >> low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!
> >
> > Just be cautious and inspect the items carefully. There's no way of
> > knowing the history of any piece. Certain stresses/types of damage can
> > cause the cookware to fail unexpectedly. Might be wise to stay away from
> > any piece with nicks or scratches.
>
> Also, there is no way of knowing how old much of the stuff in such
> stores is. Sure, I assume such cookware with certain designs stem
> from before this was an issue, but the plain things?
>

Sometimes it's obvious from the design...the overall shape, especially
the handles. Some of our older Pyrex is thicker/heavier than the same
diameter pieces now available. And our Corningware is all 'cornflower'
design. The all-white styles are a bit more recent.

On 1/13/2011 7:23 PM, Arri London wrote:
> "Jean B." wrote:
>> Arri London wrote:
>>> Goomba wrote:
>>>> Chemiker wrote:
>>>>> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
>>>>> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
>>>>> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
>>>>> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
>>>>> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
>>>>> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>>>> FYI-
>>>> One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
>>>> glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
>>>> low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!
>>> Just be cautious and inspect the items carefully. There's no way of
>>> knowing the history of any piece. Certain stresses/types of damage can
>>> cause the cookware to fail unexpectedly. Might be wise to stay away from
>>> any piece with nicks or scratches.
>> Also, there is no way of knowing how old much of the stuff in such
>> stores is. Sure, I assume such cookware with certain designs stem
>> from before this was an issue, but the plain things?
> Sometimes it's obvious from the design...the overall shape, especially
> the handles. Some of our older Pyrex is thicker/heavier than the same
> diameter pieces now available. And our Corningware is all 'cornflower'
> design. The all-white styles are a bit more recent.

Interestingly, the French-made CorningWare I saw last month, included
pieces with the old cornflower design, as well as the all-white stuff.
None of the other patterns, though (of which there were a bewildering
variety).

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Jean B." wrote:
>>
>> Arri London wrote:
>> >
>> > Goomba wrote:
>> >> Chemiker wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
>> >>> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
>> >>> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
>> >>> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
>> >>> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
>> >>> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>> >> FYI-
>> >> One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
>> >> glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
>> >> low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!
>> >
>> > Just be cautious and inspect the items carefully. There's no way of
>> > knowing the history of any piece. Certain stresses/types of damage can
>> > cause the cookware to fail unexpectedly. Might be wise to stay away
>> > from
>> > any piece with nicks or scratches.
>>
>> Also, there is no way of knowing how old much of the stuff in such
>> stores is. Sure, I assume such cookware with certain designs stem
>> from before this was an issue, but the plain things?
>>
>
> Sometimes it's obvious from the design...the overall shape, especially
> the handles. Some of our older Pyrex is thicker/heavier than the same
> diameter pieces now available. And our Corningware is all 'cornflower'
> design. The all-white styles are a bit more recent.

I have one old, scratched cornflower piece that belonged to my mom. Then
when I lived on Cape Cod, at least 12-13 years ago, a Woolworth's went out
of business. I bought a very large set in the pansy pattern. Daughter
dropped one of the smaller pieces and it broke. I was able to replace it
and also got another piece from Ebay. I think they were used but you
couldn't tell it.

I also recently bought a couple of the white pieces because I needed more
casseroles in the smaller sizes since it is just daughter and I here most of
the time. I have had no problems with them but I am careful with them. I
read somewhere that you should not even set them on the top of the stove
when you take them from the oven. I do put them there but on a burner.

Arri London wrote:
>
> "Jean B." wrote:
>> Arri London wrote:
>>> Goomba wrote:
>>>> Chemiker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
>>>>> their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
>>>>> Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
>>>>> Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
>>>>> guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
>>>>> Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>>>> FYI-
>>>> One of the best places around here to get the old classic borosilicate
>>>> glass cookware are the antique/junk type shops. Often at a remarkably
>>>> low price! If anyone wants to find some, that's the place to go!
>>> Just be cautious and inspect the items carefully. There's no way of
>>> knowing the history of any piece. Certain stresses/types of damage can
>>> cause the cookware to fail unexpectedly. Might be wise to stay away from
>>> any piece with nicks or scratches.
>> Also, there is no way of knowing how old much of the stuff in such
>> stores is. Sure, I assume such cookware with certain designs stem
>> from before this was an issue, but the plain things?
>>
>
> Sometimes it's obvious from the design...the overall shape, especially
> the handles. Some of our older Pyrex is thicker/heavier than the same
> diameter pieces now available. And our Corningware is all 'cornflower'
> design. The all-white styles are a bit more recent.

Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are old.
So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change? I
obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite a
lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what vintage
much of it is!

--
Jean B.

I've always been a bit nervous about this. I love my glass pans, but
they are made by Anchor Hocking and about 5 years old... basically
"guaranteed" to be the soda glass.

-J

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:06:01 -0800 (PST), phaeton
> wrote:

> I've always been a bit nervous about this. I love my glass pans, but
> they are made by Anchor Hocking and about 5 years old... basically
> "guaranteed" to be the soda glass.
>
> -J
When did this start? I thought it has been more than five years.

--

Carrot cake counts as a serving of vegetables.

"Jean B." > wrote in
<snip>

> Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are
> old.
> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
> I
> obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite
> a lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what
> vintage much of it is!

I'm wondering if there is a site that would tell the different
years these were made. Now that would be nice to know.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?

No, definitely not.

I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.

-- Larry

On 1/14/2011 10:43 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean > wrote:
>
>> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
>
> No, definitely not.
>
> I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.
>
As do I.

sandi wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in
> <snip>
>
>> Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are
>> old.
>> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
>> I
>> obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite
>> a lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what
>> vintage much of it is!
>
> I'm wondering if there is a site that would tell the different
> years these were made. Now that would be nice to know.
>
I started a search. I don't know whether there is such a thing
and don't have time to explore it further now. It would seem that
the plain items are the most difficult to date.

--
Jean B.

On 1/14/2011 11:34 AM, Jean B. wrote:
> sandi wrote:
>> "Jean B." > wrote in
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are
>>> old. So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change? I
>>> obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite
>>> a lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what
>>> vintage much of it is!
>>
>> I'm wondering if there is a site that would tell the different years
>> these were made. Now that would be nice to know.
>>
> I started a search. I don't know whether there is such a thing and don't
> have time to explore it further now. It would seem that the plain items
> are the most difficult to date.
>
I've seen booklets on eBay, which claim to have information on the dates
of the various patterns. Apparently, some of them are considered
'collectible'.

sandi wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in
> <snip>
>
>> Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are
>> old.
>> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
>> I
>> obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite
>> a lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what
>> vintage much of it is!
>
> I'm wondering if there is a site that would tell the different
> years these were made. Now that would be nice to know.
>
PS. Here's a site on Pyrex etc. I am not seeing an area devoted
to dates, but it is interesting nonetheless. Note the books to
the right of the page. I wonder whether they contain dates? I
will take a quick look when I next see such a book in person.

http://www.pyrexlove.com/

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:11:30 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 1/14/2011 10:43 AM, wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean > wrote:
> >
> >> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
> >
> > No, definitely not.
> >
> > I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.
> >
> As do I.

So, when did this change supposedly happen?

--

Carrot cake counts as a serving of vegetables.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:02:50 -0600, Chemiker
> wrote:

>Not too far back we had some threads on the thermal fragility of glass
>cookware. I don't recqll whether it was on r.f.c. or r.f.e, but
>anyay there's a nice article on the topic in the latest (January 2011)
>issue of Consumer Reports.
>
>Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
>their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
>Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
>Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
>guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
>Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
>
>It's a good read for those who like cooking in glass, and might help
>people avoid some bad surprises and painful injuries.
>
>Alex

According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex

The formula changed to the soda-lime formula in the 1940's.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
>
> No, definitely not.
>
> I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.
>
> -- Larry

Thanks. I thought some was older. In fact, now that I think of
it, my sister has had some for MUCH longer than 20 years. It
seems to me that there was a hiatus when one could barely find and
dregs of it in the stores, and then it reappeared. That is
probably when it changed. I need to compare the writing on my
pieces. Maybe there is a difference.

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:15:09 -0500, The Cook >
wrote:

> According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex
>
> The formula changed to the soda-lime formula in the 1940's.

IOW, even the old pieces we think of as "good" is still soda-lime and
it's a miracle we haven't broken or shattered whatever we're using? I
treat mine with care and don't treat it as if it's unbreakable >
setting a hot dish on a cold (tile or granite) counter. I will
continue to be careful and hopefully it will last.

--

Carrot cake counts as a serving of vegetables.

S Viemeister wrote:
> On 1/14/2011 11:34 AM, Jean B. wrote:
>> sandi wrote:
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are
>>>> old. So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change? I
>>>> obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite
>>>> a lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what
>>>> vintage much of it is!
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if there is a site that would tell the different years
>>> these were made. Now that would be nice to know.
>>>
>> I started a search. I don't know whether there is such a thing and don't
>> have time to explore it further now. It would seem that the plain items
>> are the most difficult to date.
>>
> I've seen booklets on eBay, which claim to have information on the dates
> of the various patterns. Apparently, some of them are considered
> 'collectible'.

Yes, I was thinking that. Now I kind-of wish I had kept more of
my mother's ugly old stuff.

--
Jean B.

The Cook wrote:
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:02:50 -0600, Chemiker
> > wrote:
>
> >Not too far back we had some threads on the thermal fragility of glass
> >cookware. I don't recqll whether it was on r.f.c. or r.f.e, but
> >anyay there's a nice article on the topic in the latest (January 2011)
> >issue of Consumer Reports.
> >
> >Some posters said that certain manufacturers had stopped producing
> >their wares in Borosilicate Glass and went back the the cheaper Soda
> >Lime glass, which does not tolerate temperature changes as well.
> >Worthy of note is that the Anchor Hocking company is named among the
> >guilty, as well as World Glass, who apparently bought some of
> >Corning's Pyrex plants (if I understood the article properly).
> >
> >It's a good read for those who like cooking in glass, and might help
> >people avoid some bad surprises and painful injuries.
> >
> >Alex
>
> According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex
>
> The formula changed to the soda-lime formula in the 1940's.

That's Wikipedia for you... Certainly that information is not correct,
probably edited by the World Glass folks to try to cover the change that
they actually made when they purchased the brand name.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 1/14/2011 10:43 AM, wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean > wrote:
> >
> >> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
> >
> > No, definitely not.
> >
> > I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.
> >
> As do I.

Same here.

However I don't understand what "change" is under discussion. Corelle
is as far as I know made from the same laminated tempered glass from
which it has always been made.

It's true that World Kitchen ditched Pyroceram for a while, but it's
back as "Corningware Stovetop". However Corelle was never made from
Pyroceram.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/14/2011 10:43 AM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean > wrote:
>>
>>> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
>>
>> No, definitely not.
>>
>> I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.
>>
> As do I.

Yes, they used to make some that I think was called French White. However I
think it looked different than what they make now. I believe the old stuff
had like...ridges that ran vertically around the sides. I can picture it in
my mind. Just can't describe it well.

phaeton wrote:
>
> I've always been a bit nervous about this. I love my glass pans, but
> they are made by Anchor Hocking and about 5 years old... basically
> "guaranteed" to be the soda glass.
>
> -J

Isn't the borosilicate Anchor Hocking called 'Fire-King'? Or are they
using that name for soda-lime glass now?

On 1/14/2011 7:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "S > wrote
>> On 1/14/2011 10:43 AM, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:21:25 -0500, "Jean > wrote:
>>>
>>>> So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change?
>>>
>>> No, definitely not.
>>>
>>> I have all-white pieces that are more than 20 years old.
>>>
>> As do I.
>
> Yes, they used to make some that I think was called French White. However I
> think it looked different than what they make now. I believe the old stuff
> had like...ridges that ran vertically around the sides. I can picture it in
> my mind. Just can't describe it well.
>

Yes, French White CorningWare has vertical ribs around it. It
post-dates the squareish ones with grips on each side. The new
'CorningWare' has a version of the ribbed French White, but in stoneware.
I have a number of pieces of the traditional shapes in white, as well as
French White, a few Cornflower, and some yellow pieces, which were only
produced for a short time.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> sandi wrote:
>> "Jean B." > wrote in
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Yes, the cornflower design and some others stand out and are
>>> old. So ALL of the white Corelle was produced after the change? I
>>> obviously need to look into Pyrex (especially). I have quite
>>> a lot of it, old mixed with newer, and I have NO idea what
>>> vintage much of it is!
>>
>> I'm wondering if there is a site that would tell the different years
>> these were made. Now that would be nice to know.
>>
> PS. Here's a site on Pyrex etc. I am not seeing an area devoted to
> dates, but it is interesting nonetheless. Note the books to the right of
> the page. I wonder whether they contain dates? I will take a quick look
> when I next see such a book in person.
>
> http://www.pyrexlove.com/

I have a couple of those two sided dishes. One is missing the lid. They
are great for when I want to fix two different vegetables for dinner. And I
used the lidded one a lot to keep my husband's food warm when he got home
late from work. I got one at a yard sale in PA and another from Ebay.

In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:
> > of the various patterns. Apparently, some of them are considered
> > 'collectible'.
>
> Yes, I was thinking that. Now I kind-of wish I had kept more of
> my mother's ugly old stuff.

Why? A memento? To use?

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
http://web.me.com/barbschaller

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, "Jean B." >
> wrote:
>>> of the various patterns. Apparently, some of them are considered
>>> 'collectible'.
>> Yes, I was thinking that. Now I kind-of wish I had kept more of
>> my mother's ugly old stuff.
>
> Why? A memento? To use?
>
Oh, I use the things. I just thought they were ugly. I couldn't
save everything--or even a fraction of things my parents had. But
since it is higher quality... and the pieces with designs are
easy to recognize...

Actually, I have one of her custard cups sitting in front of me.
Hmmm. I don't see it on that site. I am now trying to find a
good site for old Corelle.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in
<snip>

> http://www.pyrexlove.com/

Thanks!

I'm looking through it now.
I didn't realize there were SO many patterns!

Copy/pasted from http://www.pyrexlove.com/how-to-price-pyrex/

* Advertising / Specialty
* Americana
* Autumn Harvest
* Brittany Blue
* Burgundy
* Butterfly Gold
* Butterprint
* Colonial Mist
* Copper Filigree
* Crazy Daisy
* Daisy
* Desert Dawn
* Designs
* Early American
* Federal Eagle
* Forest Fancies
* Foulard
* Friendship
* Gold Acorn
* Golden Honeysuckle
* Gooseberry
* Harvest Home
* Holly Days
* Homestead
* Horizon Blue
* Morning Blue
* New Dots
* Old Orchard
* Old Town
* Pink Daisy
* Promotional / Unknown
* Rainbow Stripes
* Ribbon Bouquet
* Snowflake
* Snowflake Blue
* Solid Colors
* Spring Blossom Green
* Square Flowers
* Summer Impressions
* Terra
* Town & Country
* Trailing Flowers
* Verde
* Woodland

"Jean B." > wrote in
:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article >, "Jean B."
>> > wrote:
>>>> of the various patterns. Apparently, some of them are
>>>> considered 'collectible'.
>>> Yes, I was thinking that. Now I kind-of wish I had kept
>>> more of my mother's ugly old stuff.
>>
>> Why? A memento? To use?
>>
> Oh, I use the things. I just thought they were ugly. I
> couldn't save everything--or even a fraction of things my
> parents had. But since it is higher quality... and the
> pieces with designs are easy to recognize...
>
> Actually, I have one of her custard cups sitting in front of
> me. Hmmm. I don't see it on that site. I am now trying to
> find a good site for old Corelle.

I just found this:
http://www-link.com/cgi-bin/odbic.ex...ns/corelle.asp

"J. Clarke" > wrote in
<snip>

> Apparently it was the Corning brand name for them. There's a
> Web site at
> <http://www.corellecorner.com/quick-q...-mixing-bowls-
> pyrex- cinderella-name.html> that tells the story.

Nice site. Thanks!


>
> FWIW, my mother had a blue one (I don't remember a set) that
> came with a stand and a candle holder neither of which she
> ever used that I can recall. It was gone when she died
> though.
>
>
>
>
>

In article >, "Jean B." >
wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >, "Jean B." >
> > wrote:
> >>> of the various patterns. Apparently, some of them are considered
> >>> 'collectible'.
> >> Yes, I was thinking that. Now I kind-of wish I had kept more of
> >> my mother's ugly old stuff.
> >
> > Why? A memento? To use?
> >
> Oh, I use the things. I just thought they were ugly.

<grin>

> I couldn't save everything--or even a fraction of things my parents
> had.

You need to hang around with The Widow Dorothy. She's got crap from her
mom, crap from her aunts. And she's convinced it's all worth something
because "it's an antique."

> But since it is higher quality... and the pieces with designs
> are easy to recognize...

I'm still kicking myself for offloading the Magnalite chicken fryer that
was Mom's. What was I thinking! I do have the big oval aluminum
roaster, though (it's deep and has a cover).

>
> Actually, I have one of her custard cups sitting in front of me.
> Hmmm. I don't see it on that site. I am now trying to find a
> good site for old Corelle.

:-) I have a stash of custard cups - a shape different from those now
available, mine are deeper and I use them for popovers.

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
"Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
http://web.me.com/barbschaller