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Puester 24-10-2004 02:18 AM

Butter Bell problem
 

After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
to try one.

I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.

Any suggestions?

gloria p

Wayne Boatwright 24-10-2004 02:21 AM

Puester > wrote in news:417B039A.D2A75923
@worldnet.att.net:

>
> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
> to try one.
>
> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> gloria p
>


Does the surface of the bell where the butter is packed have a glazed
finish? FWIW, it shouldn't. The slightly rough unglazed surface is part
of the reason the butter stays put.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne Boatwright 24-10-2004 02:21 AM

Puester > wrote in news:417B039A.D2A75923
@worldnet.att.net:

>
> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
> to try one.
>
> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> gloria p
>


Does the surface of the bell where the butter is packed have a glazed
finish? FWIW, it shouldn't. The slightly rough unglazed surface is part
of the reason the butter stays put.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Margaret Suran 24-10-2004 05:22 AM



Puester wrote:
> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
> to try one.
>
> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> gloria p



Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.

I guess I am giddy, because the Red Sox just won the first game of the
2004 World Series.




Alexis Siefert 24-10-2004 05:24 AM

In article >,
Puester > wrote:

> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
> to try one.
>
> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> gloria p


I'd never heard of a butter bell before reading your post (thanks for
the idea <g>) so I went looking for pictures and found this suggestion:
http://tinyurl.com/6268s I wonder if that would help the problem?

Alexis.

Wayne Boatwright 24-10-2004 06:09 AM

Margaret Suran > wrote in
:

>
>
> Puester wrote:
>> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
>> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
>> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
>> to try one.
>>
>> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
>> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
>> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
>> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
>> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
>> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
>> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> gloria p

>
>
> Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
> laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
> trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.
>
> I guess I am giddy, because the Red Sox just won the first game of the
> 2004 World Series.


Margaret, you painted such a funny image that I'm LOL right now!

And...congrats to the Red Sox!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Sheryl Rosen 24-10-2004 02:49 PM

in article , Margaret Suran at
lid wrote on 10/24/04 12:22 AM:

>
>
> Puester wrote:
>> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
>> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
>> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
>> to try one.
>>
>> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
>> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
>> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
>> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
>> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
>> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
>> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> gloria p

>
>
> Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
> laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
> trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.
>
> I guess I am giddy, because the Red Sox just won the first game of the
> 2004 World Series.
>
>
>


YES THEY DID!!!!!! :-)


Puester 24-10-2004 06:13 PM

Margaret Suran wrote:
>
> Puester wrote:
> > The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > gloria p

>
> Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
> laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
> trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.
>



You're not far from the truth, unfortunately.

gloria p
GO SOX!

Puester 24-10-2004 06:13 PM

Margaret Suran wrote:
>
> Puester wrote:
> > The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > gloria p

>
> Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
> laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
> trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.
>



You're not far from the truth, unfortunately.

gloria p
GO SOX!

Nancy Dooley 25-10-2004 03:41 PM

Puester > wrote in message >...
> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
> to try one.
>
> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> gloria p


I think home-made butter maybe got rancid quicker than today's
commercial butter. I've never had butter go rancid and it sits out on
the counter (in a covered butter dish) ALL the time, summer and
winter. The bell sounds like more trouble than its worth.

N.

Kenneth 25-10-2004 03:58 PM

On 25 Oct 2004 07:41:03 -0700, (Nancy
Dooley) wrote:

>Puester > wrote in message >...
>> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
>> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
>> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
>> to try one.
>>
>> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
>> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
>> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
>> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
>> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
>> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
>> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> gloria p


Hi Gloria,

My guess would be that you packed the butter into the top while it was
wet. Wash it, dry it, pack in the butter, and give it another go...

HTH,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Margaret Suran 26-10-2004 12:12 PM



Puester wrote:
> Margaret Suran wrote:
>
>>Puester wrote:
>>
>>> The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>gloria p

>>
>>Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
>>laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
>>trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.
>>

>
>
>
> You're not far from the truth, unfortunately.
>
> gloria p
> GO SOX!


Do you happen to have a picture of your fishing expedition? :o)


Margaret Suran 26-10-2004 12:12 PM



Puester wrote:
> Margaret Suran wrote:
>
>>Puester wrote:
>>
>>> The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>gloria p

>>
>>Gloria, for some reason this strikes me so funny, I can't stop
>>laughing. I see you "Bobbing For Butter", instead of for apples and
>>trying to catch the escaping prize with a net on a long stick.
>>

>
>
>
> You're not far from the truth, unfortunately.
>
> gloria p
> GO SOX!


Do you happen to have a picture of your fishing expedition? :o)


Barbara Need 27-10-2004 05:49 PM

In article >,
Kenneth > wrote:
>On 25 Oct 2004 07:41:03 -0700, (Nancy
>Dooley) wrote:
>
>>Puester > wrote in message

>...
>>> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
>>> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
>>> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
>>> to try one.
>>>
>>> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
>>> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
>>> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
>>> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
>>> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
>>> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
>>> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> gloria p

>
>Hi Gloria,
>
>My guess would be that you packed the butter into the top while it was
>wet. Wash it, dry it, pack in the butter, and give it another go...
>
>HTH,
>
>--
>Kenneth


Another possibility is that the butter is TOO soft (and your kitchen too
warm). I have been using a bell since spring and generally like it, but I
have found that, without air conditioning, my kitchen got warm enough that
the butter ended up in the sink, as it were. I would also get butter
floating if I added colder butter to the existing pot and that was too
soft to hold it properly.

Barbara Need



Barbara Need 27-10-2004 05:49 PM

In article >,
Kenneth > wrote:
>On 25 Oct 2004 07:41:03 -0700, (Nancy
>Dooley) wrote:
>
>>Puester > wrote in message

>...
>>> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
>>> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
>>> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
>>> to try one.
>>>
>>> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
>>> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
>>> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
>>> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
>>> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
>>> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
>>> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> gloria p

>
>Hi Gloria,
>
>My guess would be that you packed the butter into the top while it was
>wet. Wash it, dry it, pack in the butter, and give it another go...
>
>HTH,
>
>--
>Kenneth


Another possibility is that the butter is TOO soft (and your kitchen too
warm). I have been using a bell since spring and generally like it, but I
have found that, without air conditioning, my kitchen got warm enough that
the butter ended up in the sink, as it were. I would also get butter
floating if I added colder butter to the existing pot and that was too
soft to hold it properly.

Barbara Need



Puester 27-10-2004 08:20 PM

Barbara Need wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Kenneth > wrote:
> >
> >Hi Gloria,
> >
> >My guess would be that you packed the butter into the top while it was
> >wet. Wash it, dry it, pack in the butter, and give it another go...
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >--
> >Kenneth

>
> Another possibility is that the butter is TOO soft (and your kitchen too
> warm). I have been using a bell since spring and generally like it, but I
> have found that, without air conditioning, my kitchen got warm enough that
> the butter ended up in the sink, as it were. I would also get butter
> floating if I added colder butter to the existing pot and that was too
> soft to hold it properly.
>
> Barbara Need



The container was completely dry and at room temp.
when I filled it the first time. I tried three
different times with the same results. It has now
gone through the dishwasher again and will go back
to the shop tomorrow. Gadgets are only afforded
house room around here if they work!

gloria p

Puester 27-10-2004 08:20 PM

Barbara Need wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Kenneth > wrote:
> >
> >Hi Gloria,
> >
> >My guess would be that you packed the butter into the top while it was
> >wet. Wash it, dry it, pack in the butter, and give it another go...
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >--
> >Kenneth

>
> Another possibility is that the butter is TOO soft (and your kitchen too
> warm). I have been using a bell since spring and generally like it, but I
> have found that, without air conditioning, my kitchen got warm enough that
> the butter ended up in the sink, as it were. I would also get butter
> floating if I added colder butter to the existing pot and that was too
> soft to hold it properly.
>
> Barbara Need



The container was completely dry and at room temp.
when I filled it the first time. I tried three
different times with the same results. It has now
gone through the dishwasher again and will go back
to the shop tomorrow. Gadgets are only afforded
house room around here if they work!

gloria p

Jinx the Minx 27-10-2004 11:47 PM


"Puester" > wrote in message
...
>
> After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
> rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
> when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
> to try one.
>
> I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
> packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
> When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
> I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
> the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
> once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
> had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> gloria p


As an unknown RFC poster, I mean not to insult your intelligence nor kitchen
expertise, but are you absolutely SURE you're packing it in without any air
pockets in the bottom? The first two times I used mine, I encountered the
same problem. It helps if I spoon it in with smaller chunks, making sure to
really press it in well with the back of the spoon as I would shortening or
brown sugar into a measuring cup.

HTH,
Jinx



Bob (this one) 28-10-2004 09:12 AM

Jinx the Minx wrote:

> "Puester" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>After reading about butter bells here and remembering the awful
>>rancid flavor of butter left out of the fridge at Grandma's house
>>when I was growing up, I saw bells in a cookware store and decided
>>to try one.
>>
>>I softened a stick of butter enough to pack it into the bell,
>>packed it tightly, and upended it into cold water in the bottom.
>>When I removed the bell to place it on the table for dinner,
>>I discovered that the butter had fallen out and was sitting in
>>the water. I have since tried packing it three times (including
>>once when I stored it in the fridge to experiment) and have
>>had the same results. The butter keeps sliding out of the bell.
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>gloria p

>
> As an unknown RFC poster, I mean not to insult your intelligence nor kitchen
> expertise, but are you absolutely SURE you're packing it in without any air
> pockets in the bottom? The first two times I used mine, I encountered the
> same problem. It helps if I spoon it in with smaller chunks, making sure to
> really press it in well with the back of the spoon as I would shortening or
> brown sugar into a measuring cup.


I remain amazed about this whole subject. Butter in our house sits in
an old stainless steel covered butter dish out on the counter. All
year round. Never a question about rancidity. Never a question of one
of our critters getting into it. Never have to change water or fiddle
with it. It holds about 1 1/4 sticks of butter. When it gets low, I
slip another one in. Every week or 10 days, I wash it when it gets
empty. Safe, clean, tasty because the butter "ripens" and gets a
rounder flavor.

Pastorio



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