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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:29:38 +0000, Allegrobox wrote:

> What was it like? I mean for eating, not for drinking. Particularly in
> 1895 if possible. Did it come in bars? If so, were there squares on the
> bars? If not, and they came in a box, did they have fillings, or was it
> more about the shapes?


While it may not have much info regarding what you seek, the
"Encyclopedia of Food and Culture" is a great resource unmatched by
any on line resource.

http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/chocolate

It is an in-print book, which costs about $900 last I looked. It
has only recently been made available on-line for free (used to be
by subscription only).

This would be of interest to anyone here in rec.food.historic, and
some people in rec.food.cooking as well.

http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia

It is also downloadable VIA torrents.

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:55:08 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:29:38 +0000, Allegrobox wrote:
>
>> What was it like? I mean for eating, not for drinking. Particularly in
>> 1895 if possible. Did it come in bars? If so, were there squares on the
>> bars? If not, and they came in a box, did they have fillings, or was it
>> more about the shapes?

>
> While it may not have much info regarding what you seek, the
> "Encyclopedia of Food and Culture" is a great resource unmatched by
> any on line resource.
>
> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/chocolate
>
> It is an in-print book, which costs about $900 last I looked. It
> has only recently been made available on-line for free (used to be
> by subscription only).
>
> This would be of interest to anyone here in rec.food.historic, and
> some people in rec.food.cooking as well.
>
> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia
>
> It is also downloadable VIA torrents.
>
> -sw


bookmarked for future reference.

your pal,
blake
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blake wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:02:57 -0400:

>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:29:38 +0000, Allegrobox wrote:
>>
>>> What was it like? I mean for eating, not for drinking.
>>> Particularly in 1895 if possible. Did it come in bars? If
>>> so, were there squares on the bars? If not, and they came in
>>> a box, did they have fillings, or was it more about the
>>> shapes?

>>
>> While it may not have much info regarding what you seek, the
>> "Encyclopedia of Food and Culture" is a great resource
>> unmatched by any on line resource.
>>
>> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/chocolate
>>
>> It is an in-print book, which costs about $900 last I looked.
>> It has only recently been made available on-line for free
>> (used to be by subscription only).
>>
>> This would be of interest to anyone here in
>> rec.food.historic, and some people in rec.food.cooking as
>> well.
>>
>> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia
>>
>> It is also downloadable VIA torrents.
>>
>> -sw


> bookmarked for future reference.


A fascinating and amazingly comprehensive resource. I regret not
thanking the original poster but I don't seem able to find the post.
Like you, I've bookmarked it.

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:16:56 -0400, James Silverton wrote:

> blake wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:02:57 -0400:
>
>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:29:38 +0000, Allegrobox wrote:
>>>
>>>> What was it like? I mean for eating, not for drinking.
>>>> Particularly in 1895 if possible. Did it come in bars? If
>>>> so, were there squares on the bars? If not, and they came in
>>>> a box, did they have fillings, or was it more about the
>>>> shapes?
>>>
>>> While it may not have much info regarding what you seek, the
>>> "Encyclopedia of Food and Culture" is a great resource
>>> unmatched by any on line resource.
>>>
>>> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/chocolate
>>>
>>> It is an in-print book, which costs about $900 last I looked.
>>> It has only recently been made available on-line for free
>>> (used to be by subscription only).
>>>
>>> This would be of interest to anyone here in
>>> rec.food.historic, and some people in rec.food.cooking as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia
>>>
>>> It is also downloadable VIA torrents.

>
>> bookmarked for future reference.

>
> A fascinating and amazingly comprehensive resource. I regret not
> thanking the original poster but I don't seem able to find the post.
> Like you, I've bookmarked it.


The original poster was from rec.food.histoic asking about
chocolate. I included his post in it's entirety. I posted the
encyclopedia reference, and cross-posted it to RFC. Then blake
removed the crossposting.

It is a great reference; I'm glad somebody thinks it's useful. I
sure do. I suspect it's so expensive since they had to get
permission and pay royalties to reprint some/all of the articles.

I used to have an on-line subscription to it through my library,
where they also had a hardcopy of the book in the reference section
(not available for checkout) but now it's free for all.

It would still be a great addition to my "library" <ahem>, and will
be if I ever see it for $150 or less.

-sw

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:02:57 -0400, blake murphy wrote:

> bookmarked for future reference.


There's something that will interest everybody in there. Thorson
might like:

http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/kitchen-gadgets

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James wrote to blake murphy on Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:16:56 -0400:

>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:29:38 +0000, Allegrobox wrote:
>>>
>>>> What was it like? I mean for eating, not for drinking.
>>>> Particularly in 1895 if possible. Did it come in bars? If
>>>> so, were there squares on the bars? If not, and they came
>>>> in a box, did they have fillings, or was it more about the shapes?
>>>
>>> While it may not have much info regarding what you seek, the
>>> "Encyclopedia of Food and Culture" is a great resource
>>> unmatched by any on line resource.
>>>
>>> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/chocolate
>>>
>>> It is an in-print book, which costs about $900 last I
>>> looked. It has only recently been made available on-line for
>>> free (used to be by subscription only).
>>>
>>> This would be of interest to anyone here in
>>> rec.food.historic, and some people in rec.food.cooking as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia
>>>
>>> It is also downloadable VIA torrents.
>>>
>>> -sw


>> bookmarked for future reference.


> A fascinating and amazingly comprehensive resource. I regret
> not thanking the original poster but I don't seem able to find
> the post. Like you, I've bookmarked it.


Let me add a little quotation from this encyclopedia about MSG.

Some consumers also mix additional MSG into foods in the form of
sauces. This may be strongly influenced by cultural food preferences. In
Korea and Taiwan, for example, the average adult consumes six to ten
times more MSG each day than the average person in the United States.

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Sqwertz wrote:
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> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:02:57 -0400, blake murphy wrote:
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> > bookmarked for future reference.

>
> There's something that will interest everybody in there. Thorson
> might like:
>
> http://www.enotes.com/food-encyclopedia/kitchen-gadgets


You did have to say that, didn't you?
I have work to do today.
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:06:43 -0500, Sqwertz >
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> It would still be a great addition to my "library" <ahem>, and will
> be if I ever see it for $150 or less.


Have you checked abebooks.com recently?

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Its two volumes are, indeed, useful. As general references, I
frequently use them (and Oxford's encyclopedias -- the two on
American food & drink, and the earlier, worldwide, one edited by
Alan
Davidson) as starting points.

As for cost and permissions... I wrote three articles in the
Encyclopedia of Food and Culture, which are now available online,
and
was never asked for permission or paid for the electronic versions.
It's possible that some authors were contacted and paid, but I
wasn't
even notified that they were going online. I stumbled across my own
articles by accident.

Gary

PS: It's great that this forum is not just a venue for spam anymore!


> It is a great reference; I'm glad somebody thinks it's useful. I
> sure do. *I suspect it's so expensive since they had to get
> permission and pay royalties to reprint some/all of the articles. *


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