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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:34:27 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:19:32 -0400, blake murphy wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:14:59 -0500, Sqwertz wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 01:39:12 -0700, Christine Dabney wrote: >>> >>>> You are leaving off some other fantastic books. Anything by Deborah >>>> Madison, especially the Greens Cookbook. And Vegetarian Cooking for >>>> Everyone. That one won the James Beard award., >>> >>> The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking, Yumani Devi, is another good one - >>> Beard award, IIRC. But it won't fit Renee's "Not about an ideology" >>> criteria, for sure (there's no garlic, for example). It's the only >>> Vegetarian cookbook I own. >> >> no garlic? because it angries up the blood, or what? > > They (garlic and onions) increase passion and ignorance. Garlic agitates > the nervous system and disturbs meditation. And of course, "reactions of > repulsive breath, extra-foul odour from perspiration and bowel movements, > and lead to lewd indulgences, enhance agitations, anxieties and > aggressiveness". > > http://connect.krishna.com/node/612 no wonder i like 'em. > I can't imagine cooking without garlic and onions. I think onion is > probably the single most important vegetable in cooking. > > -sw i could see (theoretically) not eating meat, but no onions or garlic? shoot me now, please. your pal, blake |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:49:51 -0700, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:35:23 -0700, sf > wrote: > >>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:28:58 -0700, Christine Dabney > wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:25:59 -0700, sf > wrote: >>> >>> . >>> >A lot of vegetarians eat fish. >>> >>> Then they are not totally vegetarian. We were not talking about >>> vegetarians who eat meat, fish or poultry. I think they are known as >>> flexitarians.. Really. >>> >>> We were talking about vegetarians who are truly vegetarian. >>> >>Vegans? > > No. Use your noggin.. Seriously, you aren't just playing dumb are > you? > > No meat, poultry or fish. > > Vegans don't use dairy, or any animal products whatsoever, whereas a > lot of vegetarians use eggs, cheese, and dairy products and are still > considered vegetarian. They are known as ovo-lacto vegetarians. > > Christine i don't eat honey very much, but to eschew it for fear of exploiting bees seems a little far out. your pal, blake |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:17:20 -0700, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:49:51 -0700, Christine Dabney > > wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:35:23 -0700, sf > wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:28:58 -0700, Christine Dabney > wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:25:59 -0700, sf > wrote: >>>> >>>> . >>>> >A lot of vegetarians eat fish. >>>> >>>> Then they are not totally vegetarian. We were not talking about >>>> vegetarians who eat meat, fish or poultry. I think they are known as >>>> flexitarians.. Really. >>>> >>>> We were talking about vegetarians who are truly vegetarian. >>>> >>>Vegans? >> >> No. Use your noggin.. Seriously, you aren't just playing dumb are >> you? >> >> No meat, poultry or fish. >> >> Vegans don't use dairy, or any animal products whatsoever, whereas a >> lot of vegetarians use eggs, cheese, and dairy products and are still >> considered vegetarian. They are known as ovo-lacto vegetarians. >> > <shrug> People eat what they want to eat and call themselves > vegetarians. I am not one of them, nor do I play one on TV. i call myself an atheist but i'm afraid god will punish me for it. your pal, blake |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:14:13 -0700, "Steve B"
> wrote: > >"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:35:03 -0700, "Steve B" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Miche" > wrote in message ... >>>> In article >, >>>> Gorio > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Though I despise tobacco, I think it should be up to the business to >>>>> decide smoking or non, not a politician acting there's a bunch of >>>>> undisputed correlational research on second hand smoke. I just hate the >>>>> smell and avoid places where there is smoke. >>>> >>>> Which is great unless you're either allergic or very sensitive to it (as >>>> I am) and there are NO places around where you can go and get a quiet >>>> drink in a smoke-free environment. >>>> >>>> NZ went smoke-free in bars, pubs and restaurants a couple of years ago >>>> and businesses reported that their takings went UP, not down, because of >>>> people like me actually being able to go there without coughing their >>>> lungs up. >>>> >>>> Miche >>> >>>I can't tolerate smokers, even a guy smoking a cigar on the next fairway >>>due >>>to a nine hour heart surgery. >> >> Are you always this whinny? Didn't you say you were leaving? >> >>>I can't stand going in to anywhere there's >>>smoking because I have to wash all the clothing I wear in there. >> >> And just where can you go anymore that allows smoking? >> >>>I hate standing anywhere close to a person who smokes. >> >> They probably don't want to be around you either. >> >>>The sad part is that they have absolutely no clue that they are so smelly, >>>or just don't care. >> >> What they don't care about is your ****ing and moaning. If I go >> outside to enjoy a cigarette I don't smell any worse than some swine >> who over did the cheap cologne to cover up the fact that they haven't >> showered in days. >> >>>Like animals who roll in dead carcasses for the scent, >>>then come up to you like "Hey, you like this new cologne fragrance?" >>> >>>They would eat baby shit out of a diaper with a plastic spoon. >> >> You are a nut-job. >> >> Lou > >Let me guess. You probably go through life doing not much more. >You're a smoker. Me and 45.1 million americans and 1.3 billion worldwide. > You despise yourself. Just bitches like you who said they were leaving. > I hit a nerve. Not at all. I'm a courteous smoker and don't smoke even in my own home except in front of a fan in the window of the bathroom. I think the smoking ban in bars that don't even sell food is over the top but all the other bans are reasonable. But you bitching about someone on another fairway is nuts. Folks have been smoking cigars on golf courses for ever. Unless the course forbids it and it's 15 feet from a public doorway it's legal so STFU! Lou |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:34:34 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>In article >, > blake murphy > wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:14:13 -0700, Steve B wrote: >> >> > "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message >> > ... >> >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:35:03 -0700, "Steve B" >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>>The sad part is that they have absolutely no clue that they are so smelly, >> >>>or just don't care. >> >> >> >> What they don't care about is your ****ing and moaning. If I go >> >> outside to enjoy a cigarette I don't smell any worse than some swine >> >> who over did the cheap cologne to cover up the fact that they haven't >> >> showered in days. > >> >>>They would eat baby shit out of a diaper with a plastic spoon. >> >> >> >> You are a nut-job. > >Just noticed? I haven't had the time to keep track of the kooks. > >:-) > >> > Let me guess. You're a smoker. You despise yourself. I hit a nerve. > >> well, i smoke, and i don't despise myself. people like you, on the other >> hand... > >OK, I'm taking bets. I've known a lot of people who don't smoke, have >never smoked, and hate smoke. They're never this fanatical about it. >I'm betting Steve B. is a former smoker. Anyone else? I think you're right but to actually type what he did indicates he's got other issues. How someone like that gets through real life without someone punching them out is amazing. Lou |
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On Aug 15, 12:52*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:49:51 -0700, Christine Dabney wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:35:23 -0700, sf > wrote: > > >>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:28:58 -0700, Christine Dabney > > wrote: > > >>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:25:59 -0700, sf > wrote: > > >>> . > >>> >A lot of vegetarians eat fish. > > >>> Then they are not totally vegetarian. *We were not talking about > >>> vegetarians who eat meat, fish or poultry. * I think they are known as > >>> flexitarians.. *Really. > > >>> We were talking about vegetarians who are truly vegetarian. > > >>Vegans? > > > No. *Use your noggin.. * Seriously, you aren't *just playing dumb are > > you? * > > > No meat, poultry or fish. * > > > Vegans don't use dairy, or any animal products whatsoever, whereas a > > lot of vegetarians use eggs, cheese, and dairy products and are still > > considered vegetarian. *They are known as ovo-lacto vegetarians. * > > > Christine > > i don't eat honey very much, but to eschew it for fear of exploiting bees > seems a little far out. > > your pal, > blake I have a friend who is a RAW Vegan. Only fruits and vegetables - all raw. Raw potatoes. asparagus, rutabaga, everything! He is firmly convinced that eating anything animal is what causes all sickness. Lynn in Fargo PS: he has schizophrenia but he's pretty healthy! |
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With many, not all, it's not about what they eat so much as their moral superiority to you. Like carnivores who damn hunters. Animals allowed to have a nice, natural life vs. the 100,000 head of beef at Montfort Beef's yards surrounding Greeley, CO. Three such yards. Yup, 300,000 head, all just a standin' aorund; and you can smell it from miles away. Still, I happily went to the local steak place in greely (2 prime rib-$15) and enjoyed just like I do rabbit, squirrel and raccoon, oh and cats, too. JK, Shelly.
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"Gorio" > wrote in message ... > With many, not all, it's not about what they eat so much as their moral > superiority to you. Like carnivores who damn hunters. Animals allowed to > have a nice, natural life vs. the 100,000 head of beef at Montfort > Beef's yards surrounding Greeley, CO. Three such yards. Yup, 300,000 > head, all just a standin' aorund; and you can smell it from miles away. > Still, I happily went to the local steak place in greely (2 prime > rib-$15) and enjoyed just like I do rabbit, squirrel and raccoon, oh and > cats, too. JK, Shelly. Some very good points there! -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:50:27 -0700, koko wrote:
> Asafetida is used instead of onion and garlic. It's quite pungent and > not at all pleasent smelling but tastes like garlic, from what I hear. > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/asafetid.html I don't think it tastes like garlic at all. I don't think it tastes like anything, really. It just smells. -sw |
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"Ranee at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > koko > wrote: > >> Asafetida is used instead of onion and garlic. It's quite pungent and >> not at all pleasent smelling but tastes like garlic, from what I hear. >> http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/asafetid.html > > Which seems like cheating to me. If you aren't supposed to have > garlic, why eat a garlic substitute that tastes like garlic? It's like > vegetarians who eat fake meat. I just don't get it. Eat something > else, there is plenty of non-meat food out there that tastes good. I am with you on this. Do vegans do subs? -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:12:35 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:34:34 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote: > >>In article >, >> blake murphy > wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:14:13 -0700, Steve B wrote: >>> >>> > "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message >>> > ... >>> >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:35:03 -0700, "Steve B" >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>The sad part is that they have absolutely no clue that they are so smelly, >>> >>>or just don't care. >>> >> >>> >> What they don't care about is your ****ing and moaning. If I go >>> >> outside to enjoy a cigarette I don't smell any worse than some swine >>> >> who over did the cheap cologne to cover up the fact that they haven't >>> >> showered in days. >> >>> >>>They would eat baby shit out of a diaper with a plastic spoon. >>> >> >>> >> You are a nut-job. >> >>Just noticed? > > I haven't had the time to keep track of the kooks. >> >>:-) >> >>> > Let me guess. You're a smoker. You despise yourself. I hit a nerve. >> >>> well, i smoke, and i don't despise myself. people like you, on the other >>> hand... >> >>OK, I'm taking bets. I've known a lot of people who don't smoke, have >>never smoked, and hate smoke. They're never this fanatical about it. >>I'm betting Steve B. is a former smoker. Anyone else? > > I think you're right but to actually type what he did indicates he's > got other issues. How someone like that gets through real life > without someone punching them out is amazing. > > Lou i'd guess he keeps that kinda shit to himself in 'real life.' your pal, blake |
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sf wrote:
> Christine Dabney > wrote: >> sf > wrote: > >> >What's wrong with a piece of fish? > >> We are talking about vegetarian foods and meals, that's why. > > A lot of vegetarians eat fish. Yet very few fire eaters try plasma torches or use hydrazine as their fuel. Sometimes having no idea what words mean makes you look dumb, other times it's fatally stupid. |
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On Aug 15, 12:50*pm, koko > wrote:
> > Asafetida is used instead of onion and garlic. It's quite pungent and > not at all pleasent smelling but tastes like garlic, from what I hear.http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/asafetid.html > > koko I don't understand, if you are going to eschew garlic, why use a substitute? All the substitutions vegans and vegetarians use for the "real" things tell me that the decision to be vegan or vegetarian is more political and judgemental than it is extremely personal. That the decision was made because of how the person needs to be or wants to be viewed by the larger community rather than because the individual has made a deeply personal choice about what foods they ingest. IMHO those who make the choice to be vegans or vegetarians out of a deeply personal committment are NOT the militant ones. They quietly go about their lives and their food choices without ceremony. As I stated in the original post of this thread, I have chosen to follow a vegetarian diet, a vegan diet, an ovo-lacto vegetarian diet and am now following an 'omnivore' diet. Those decisions on choosing different ways of eating came from my own need to be seen in a particular way by those I was associated with at the time............following the crowd, so to speak. I have since come to the understanding that my choice of foods are made out of personal preference and the effects these foods have on my body and mental health. I don't care what others think of my food choices since I'm not making the to please others, only myself. Therefore if I choose to eat a Tofurkey hot dog (blech) it would be because I LIKE them (gag), not because of any agenda. |
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Sitara wrote:
> As I stated in the original post of this thread, I have chosen to follow a > vegetarian diet, a vegan diet, an ovo-lacto vegetarian diet and am now > following an 'omnivore' diet. Those decisions on choosing different ways > of eating came from my own need to be seen in a particular way by those I > was associated with at the time............following the crowd, so to > speak. It's funny, I followed those same diets *without* any peer pressure. I just enjoyed the challenge of cooking food that I liked within those constraints. Bob |
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"Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > "Ophelia" > wrote: > >> "Ranee at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message >> ... >> > In article >, >> > koko > wrote: >> > >> >> Asafetida is used instead of onion and garlic. It's quite pungent and >> >> not at all pleasent smelling but tastes like garlic, from what I hear. >> >> http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/asafetid.html >> > >> > Which seems like cheating to me. If you aren't supposed to have >> > garlic, why eat a garlic substitute that tastes like garlic? It's like >> > vegetarians who eat fake meat. I just don't get it. Eat something >> > else, there is plenty of non-meat food out there that tastes good. >> >> I am with you on this. Do vegans do subs? >> -- > > I imagine so, since they are usually made with soy. I guess it > depends on how devout they are. Ugh! -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Christine Dabney > wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:25:59 -0700, sf > wrote: > > . > >A lot of vegetarians eat fish. > > Then they are not totally vegetarian. We were not talking about > vegetarians who eat meat, fish or poultry. I think they are known as > flexitarians.. Really. http://animalrights.about.com/od/veg...PescoVegetaria n.htm That's somebody who is a vegetarian except for eating fish. > We were talking about vegetarians who are truly vegetarian. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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"Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Gorio > wrote: > >> I like down a bit on the link "pollo-vegetarian" a chicken eating >> vegetarian. What the hell. Then, I'm a beer drinking non-drinker. > > One of my peeves is people not realizing that words actually mean > something. Don't call yourself a vegetarian if you eat meat. I get the > difference between vegan and vegetarian, and that vegetarians are > allowed to eat eggs, dairy, honey, etc, but if you eat fish or chicken, > unless you grow them on a bush, that is meat. lol she's right yannow) -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:59:27 +0000, Gorio wrote:
> Dan Abel;1519883 Wrote: >> In article , >> Christine Dabney wrote: >> - >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:25:59 -0700, sf wrote: >> >> .- >> A lot of vegetarians eat fish.- >> >> Then they are not totally vegetarian. We were not talking about >> vegetarians who eat meat, fish or poultry. I think they are known as >> flexitarians.. Really.- >> >> 'Animal Rights - Glossary' (http://tinyurl.com/28uzoau) >> n.htm >> >> That's somebody who is a vegetarian except for eating fish. >> - >> We were talking about vegetarians who are truly vegetarian.- >> >> -- >> Dan Abel >> Petaluma, California USA >> > > I like down a bit on the link "pollo-vegetarian" a chicken eating > vegetarian. What the hell. Then, I'm a beer drinking non-drinker. > Sheldon would be a CP non-alcoholic. Silly how far people will go to > prove their own morality to themselves. a fair number of people seem to think beer doesn't 'count.' doesn't keep them from getting drunk, though. your pal, blake |
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Ophelia wrote on Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:59:35 +0100:
> "Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in > message > ... >> In article >, >> Gorio > wrote: >> >>> I like down a bit on the link "pollo-vegetarian" a chicken >>> eating vegetarian. What the hell. Then, I'm a beer drinking >>> non-drinker. >> >> One of my peeves is people not realizing that words >> actually mean something. Don't call yourself a vegetarian if >> you eat meat. I get the difference between vegan and >> vegetarian, and that vegetarians are allowed to eat eggs, >> dairy, honey, etc, but if you eat fish or chicken, unless you >> grow them on a bush, that is meat. > lol she's right yannow) I'll bet you drive a Pious :-) -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
> Ophelia wrote on Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:59:35 +0100: > > >> "Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in >> message if you eat fish or chicken, unless you >>> grow them on a bush, that is meat. > >> lol she's right yannow) > > I'll bet you drive a Pious :-) > Is that like the PopeMobile? gloria p |
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gloria.p wrote:
> James Silverton wrote: >> Ophelia wrote on Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:59:35 +0100: >> >> >>> "Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in >>> message > if you eat fish or chicken, unless you >>>> grow them on a bush, that is meat. >> >>> lol she's right yannow) >> >> I'll bet you drive a Pious :-) >> > > Is that like the PopeMobile? (laugh!!) nancy |
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"James Silverton" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote on Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:59:35 +0100: > > >> "Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in >> message >> ... >>> In article >, >>> Gorio > wrote: >>> >>>> I like down a bit on the link "pollo-vegetarian" a chicken >>>> eating vegetarian. What the hell. Then, I'm a beer drinking >>>> non-drinker. >>> >>> One of my peeves is people not realizing that words >>> actually mean something. Don't call yourself a vegetarian if >>> you eat meat. I get the difference between vegan and >>> vegetarian, and that vegetarians are allowed to eat eggs, >>> dairy, honey, etc, but if you eat fish or chicken, unless you >>> grow them on a bush, that is meat. > >> lol she's right yannow) > > I'll bet you drive a Pious :-) LOL .. Shogun actewally -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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"gloria.p" > wrote in message ... > James Silverton wrote: >> Ophelia wrote on Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:59:35 +0100: >> >> >>> "Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in >>> message > if you eat fish or chicken, unless you >>>> grow them on a bush, that is meat. >> >>> lol she's right yannow) >> >> I'll bet you drive a Pious :-) >> > > Is that like the PopeMobile? <g> -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:20:45 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>In article >, > Lou Decruss > wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:14:13 -0700, "Steve B" >> > wrote: > >> >>>I can't tolerate smokers, even a guy smoking a cigar on the next fairway > >> >Let me guess. >> >> You probably go through life doing not much more. >> >> >You're a smoker. > >> I think the >> smoking ban in bars that don't even sell food is over the top but all >> the other bans are reasonable. > >Don't know about other states, but the ban on smoking in bars in >California is just about employee health in the workplace. Smoking is >allowed in bars here as long as there are no employees. So a couple >with no employees who own a bar and do all the work themselves, can >allow smoking. That's not how it is here. >> But you bitching about someone on >> another fairway is nuts. Folks have been smoking cigars on golf >> courses for ever. Unless the course forbids it and it's 15 feet from >> a public doorway it's legal so STFU! > >Better watch this guy, Lou! Right now there are three states between >you, but pretty soon he'll be pushing for a law that smokers have to be >at least five states away, so you'll have to go to Indiana every time >you want to smoke! LOL. Lou |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:30:38 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote: >On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:12:35 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote: >>>OK, I'm taking bets. I've known a lot of people who don't smoke, have >>>never smoked, and hate smoke. They're never this fanatical about it. >>>I'm betting Steve B. is a former smoker. Anyone else? >> >> I think you're right but to actually type what he did indicates he's >> got other issues. How someone like that gets through real life >> without someone punching them out is amazing. >> >> Lou > >i'd guess he keeps that kinda shit to himself in 'real life.' Most likely. I mean a little drama is one thing but WTF? Lou |
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