Happy Happy:
http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg

Yummy Yummy:
http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg

On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:14:00 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> Happy Happy:
> http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>
> Yummy Yummy:
> http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg

Awwwwww. Too cute.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Jul 9, 6:14*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> Happy Happy:http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>
> Yummy Yummy:http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg

Anybody who thinks deer are delicate, shy or helpless needs to check
this out..

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col.../29/bc-cranbro...

Do NOT mess with Mommy's baby.

On Jul 9, 8:18*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:14:00 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
> > Happy Happy:
> >http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>
> > Yummy Yummy:
> >http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg
>
> Awwwwww. Too cute.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

....dangerous, destructive and out of control.

N.

Nancy2 > wrote in news:ce40fea9-68b0-4b33-ace9-
:

> On Jul 9, 8:18*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:14:00 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > Happy Happy:
>> >http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>>
>> > Yummy Yummy:
>> >http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg
>>
>> Awwwwww. Too cute.
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy
>
> ...dangerous, destructive and out of control.
>


I betcha they taste nice though :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


"Religion - all religion - is false. It's the grand delusion of the weak-
willed. the fearful, the sheep of the world, who haven't the strength to lead
but want only to be led."

Stepan Spalko, "The Bourne Legacy"

On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 07:39:10 -0700, Nancy2 wrote:

> On Jul 9, 8:18*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:14:00 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > Happy Happy:
>> >http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>>
>> > Yummy Yummy:
>> >http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg
>>
>> Awwwwww. Too cute.
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy
>
> ...dangerous, destructive and out of control.
>
> N.

As are most humans over the age of 6 y/o.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

brooklyn1 wrote:
> Happy Happy:
> http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>
> Yummy Yummy:
> http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg

Aw! Any idea how old the little one is? (Have you seen it before?)

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:51:58 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Happy Happy:
>> http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>>
>> Yummy Yummy:
>> http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg
>
>Aw! Any idea how old the little one is? (Have you seen it before?)

About a month... there are twins... but it's difficult to get a
picture as they mostly stay hidden. That was with tele at about
800'. I spotted two turkey hens a little while ago, each with a
clutch of new hatchlings, but they were too far away to photograph, I
could get the hens but the babies are too tiny so are well hidden by
grass. And they rarely come out of the woods too. I have a powerful
Nikon spotting scope set up but when I tried using it with my camera
attached the images are unclear... besides I can't do lookout duty all
day, NatGeo won't pay me. LOL

brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:51:58 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Happy Happy:
>>> http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>>>
>>> Yummy Yummy:
>>> http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg
>> Aw! Any idea how old the little one is? (Have you seen it before?)
>
> About a month... there are twins... but it's difficult to get a
> picture as they mostly stay hidden. That was with tele at about
> 800'. I spotted two turkey hens a little while ago, each with a
> clutch of new hatchlings, but they were too far away to photograph, I
> could get the hens but the babies are too tiny so are well hidden by
> grass. And they rarely come out of the woods too. I have a powerful
> Nikon spotting scope set up but when I tried using it with my camera
> attached the images are unclear... besides I can't do lookout duty all
> day, NatGeo won't pay me. LOL

Well, you have an appreciative, nonpaying audience here.

I'd love to see that kind of wildlife here or at the new abode. I
don't think the deer have been seen since the winter though, so
maybe I won't get any fawns.

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:09:59 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:51:58 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Happy Happy:
>>>> http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Yummy Yummy:
>>>> http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg
>>> Aw! Any idea how old the little one is? (Have you seen it before?)
>>
>> About a month... there are twins... but it's difficult to get a
>> picture as they mostly stay hidden. That was with tele at about
>> 800'. I spotted two turkey hens a little while ago, each with a
>> clutch of new hatchlings, but they were too far away to photograph, I
>> could get the hens but the babies are too tiny so are well hidden by
>> grass. And they rarely come out of the woods too. I have a powerful
>> Nikon spotting scope set up but when I tried using it with my camera
>> attached the images are unclear... besides I can't do lookout duty all
>> day, NatGeo won't pay me. LOL
>
>Well, you have an appreciative, nonpaying audience here.
>
>I'd love to see that kind of wildlife here or at the new abode. I
>don't think the deer have been seen since the winter though, so
>maybe I won't get any fawns.

Most wildlife is nocternal. You'll need to do most of your careful
observing at dawn and twilight. And keep a camera at the ready, I
have mine on my desk at all times. And I'm still waiting to see pics
of your new place... and I'm much more interested in the outside...
I'm not much impressed with the inside, I can browse decor mags to see
all that... I want a description and pics of the land and the exterior
of the house.

brooklyn1 wrote:
> Most wildlife is nocternal. You'll need to do most of your careful
> observing at dawn and twilight. And keep a camera at the ready, I
> have mine on my desk at all times. And I'm still waiting to see pics
> of your new place... and I'm much more interested in the outside...
> I'm not much impressed with the inside, I can browse decor mags to see
> all that... I want a description and pics of the land and the exterior
> of the house.


That is why I haven't seen anything remarkable yet. The deer were
seen by contractors in the very early morning.

I am taking pics--admittedly more of the inside. I just have to
settle down and put together some folders--something I have never
done. I will describe the exterior.

From the front, to the right of the driveway there is a small
flat area and then a nice moss-covered hill. Toward the street,
there are a couple of crab apple trees; a bit father in, there are
mostly white pines and oaks, with some nice fern below. (Go
fern!) There are some bushes at the corner of the driveway. I
have only identified the white lilac. Note that the realtor
apparently had these and other bushes severely trimmed, so most
are rather small. :-(

Most of the front yard is to the left of the driveway. It is
rather odd and needs some serious work. After the driveway,
about 1/4 of the perimeter has a broken hedge of burning bush--why
broken, I don't know, and it seems to me that bb is considered to
be invasive. Right inside that are a small rose of sharon and
small maple (I hope not a Norway maple!). Following the
perimeter, there is a small (truncated) magnolia and some
unidentified tree with huge leaves. At the very left, on the lot
line, there seems to be row of alternating forsythia and rose of
sharon (the latter not confirmed by close inspection). Continuing
down the lot line, there are white pines and (mostly) oaks.

A bit more than midway toward the house, there is a small curved
garden area, with two mangy, theoretically decorative, cherry
trees at the ends. (I have already planted their fruiting
replacements a bit in front of them.) There is a(?) rose and some
peonies--and much invasive ?honeysuckle?. (I am really dismayed
about that and the invasive trumpet vine in the back.)

Around the foundation there are small (butchered) yews and equally
butchered azaleas. Hydrangeas frame the front steps (ugh! who
wants something there that is just ugly sticks for much of the
year?). On the right corner there is a dwarf evergreen of some
sort. On the left corner there are a red Japanese maple and a
couple of unidentified bushes.

Along left side of house... ferns, Canadian mayflower (I like
those two), and the some of the wretched trumpet vine and
honeysuckle. Not a lot of space between that and the line of oaks
and pines--and I need to put in some low evergreens there in the
fall. Privacy is vastly worse than I wanted.

Along right side of house, some unidentified plantings. A walkway
that goes back to the porch and one entry to the lower level
separates that space from the garage.

The back... Looking from the house there is mostly empty space
(more lawn--ugh!) and then a wooded area, which is not a big as I
had hoped. To the right there is more of the aforementioned
hill--at that point it is basically trees. In the center, there
are two apple trees and a cherry tree, which I had planted. (The
hill and the woods are my favorite parts of the property. I need
to have it surveyed, so I know how much is ours. I believe most
of the hill and a decent amount of the woods do belong to us.)

Now, looking toward the house... There is a very ugly deck that
is partially screened by two huge vines, which turned out to be
the dreaded trumpet vine. I am seeing why it is dreaded because
it is obvious that the previous owners had done battle with it,
and it seems to need to be reined in even on a weekly basis lest
it sneaks under the siding. Ugh!

Around the brick patio, there are some nice lilies. The trumpet
vine and the burnt orange and yellow lilies clash with the purple
rose of sharon that is on the far left....

Pshew. That is long and probably inadequate. I need to ask about
the noxious stuff on rec.gardens. I have thought about painting
things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
eat the things I have painted. As you have probably seen, I
really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
out.

--
Jean B.

On Jul 10, 5:36*am, "Jean B." > wrote:
*I have thought about painting
> things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
> eat the things I have painted. *As you have probably seen, I
> really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
> or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
> out.
>
> --
> Jean B.

For all the sweat and work you will spend trying to deal with the
unwanted plantings and wild plants around your home you would probably
come out better hiring a good landscaping company to come in and dig
it all out and start all over again to your liking and
specifications. Plus a good local landscaper would use native plants
that would look better and do better in your climate.

just a thought.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:36:41 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Most wildlife is nocternal. You'll need to do most of your careful
>> observing at dawn and twilight. And keep a camera at the ready, I
>> have mine on my desk at all times. And I'm still waiting to see pics
>> of your new place... and I'm much more interested in the outside...
>> I'm not much impressed with the inside, I can browse decor mags to see
>> all that... I want a description and pics of the land and the exterior
>> of the house.
>
>
>That is why I haven't seen anything remarkable yet. The deer were
>seen by contractors in the very early morning.
>
>I am taking pics--admittedly more of the inside. I just have to
>settle down and put together some folders--something I have never
>done. I will describe the exterior.
>
> From the front, to the right of the driveway there is a small
>flat area and then a nice moss-covered hill. Toward the street,
>there are a couple of crab apple trees; a bit father in, there are
>mostly white pines and oaks, with some nice fern below. (Go
>fern!) There are some bushes at the corner of the driveway. I
>have only identified the white lilac. Note that the realtor
>apparently had these and other bushes severely trimmed, so most
>are rather small. :-(
>
>Most of the front yard is to the left of the driveway. It is
>rather odd and needs some serious work. After the driveway,
>about 1/4 of the perimeter has a broken hedge of burning bush--why
>broken, I don't know, and it seems to me that bb is considered to
>be invasive. Right inside that are a small rose of sharon and
>small maple (I hope not a Norway maple!). Following the
>perimeter, there is a small (truncated) magnolia and some
>unidentified tree with huge leaves. At the very left, on the lot
>line, there seems to be row of alternating forsythia and rose of
>sharon (the latter not confirmed by close inspection). Continuing
>down the lot line, there are white pines and (mostly) oaks.
>
>A bit more than midway toward the house, there is a small curved
>garden area, with two mangy, theoretically decorative, cherry
>trees at the ends. (I have already planted their fruiting
>replacements a bit in front of them.) There is a(?) rose and some
>peonies--and much invasive ?honeysuckle?. (I am really dismayed
>about that and the invasive trumpet vine in the back.)
>
>Around the foundation there are small (butchered) yews and equally
>butchered azaleas. Hydrangeas frame the front steps (ugh! who
>wants something there that is just ugly sticks for much of the
>year?). On the right corner there is a dwarf evergreen of some
>sort. On the left corner there are a red Japanese maple and a
>couple of unidentified bushes.
>
>Along left side of house... ferns, Canadian mayflower (I like
>those two), and the some of the wretched trumpet vine and
>honeysuckle. Not a lot of space between that and the line of oaks
>and pines--and I need to put in some low evergreens there in the
>fall. Privacy is vastly worse than I wanted.
>
>Along right side of house, some unidentified plantings. A walkway
>that goes back to the porch and one entry to the lower level
>separates that space from the garage.
>
>The back... Looking from the house there is mostly empty space
>(more lawn--ugh!) and then a wooded area, which is not a big as I
>had hoped. To the right there is more of the aforementioned
>hill--at that point it is basically trees. In the center, there
>are two apple trees and a cherry tree, which I had planted. (The
>hill and the woods are my favorite parts of the property. I need
>to have it surveyed, so I know how much is ours. I believe most
>of the hill and a decent amount of the woods do belong to us.)
>
>Now, looking toward the house... There is a very ugly deck that
>is partially screened by two huge vines, which turned out to be
>the dreaded trumpet vine. I am seeing why it is dreaded because
>it is obvious that the previous owners had done battle with it,
>and it seems to need to be reined in even on a weekly basis lest
>it sneaks under the siding. Ugh!
>
>Around the brick patio, there are some nice lilies. The trumpet
>vine and the burnt orange and yellow lilies clash with the purple
>rose of sharon that is on the far left....
>
>Pshew. That is long and probably inadequate. I need to ask about
>the noxious stuff on rec.gardens. I have thought about painting
>things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
>eat the things I have painted. As you have probably seen, I
>really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
>or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
>out.

A few photos would say more... of the house from the road, from the
rear, and of the outside from a window on each side. What's the size
of this property, sounds like quite a few acres to contain all you've
described... any out buildings? You really should have had it
surveyed prior to closing... mortgage lenders and title insurance
companies require a recent survey... afterwards there is no point
unless a dispute arises. You can get a pretty accurate boundary
description for free by obtaining a tax map and interpolating the
boundaries described on your deed... all the taxes, copy of the deed,
past title holders, prices paid, mortgage, liens, and related info is
available on line these days by County... this is all public record,
anyone who knows in which County your property is located, with your
name and/or address can look it up. The town clerk also has all this
info on paper... you should ask the town clerk for the web site... you
can learn a lot about your neighbors... if the name on the deed is
different from the name on the mailbox than very likely they're
tenants... if one of a couple's name is missing from the deed than
very likely it's a shack up. Nowadays about half the private
residenses are occupied by other than the owner and about half the
deeds show only one owner. Take pictures, it's not necessary to
catalog in order to post them.

ImStillMags wrote:
> On Jul 10, 5:36 am, "Jean B." > wrote:
> I have thought about painting
>> things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
>> eat the things I have painted. As you have probably seen, I
>> really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
>> or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
>> out.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> For all the sweat and work you will spend trying to deal with the
> unwanted plantings and wild plants around your home you would probably
> come out better hiring a good landscaping company to come in and dig
> it all out and start all over again to your liking and
> specifications. Plus a good local landscaper would use native plants
> that would look better and do better in your climate.
>
> just a thought.

I wish they did use local plants. My one and only experience was
a landscaper was a miserable comedy of errors. The thing that got
her fired was her recommendation that I plant something that is
banned as an invasive species. Eeek!

--
Jean B.

brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:36:41 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Most wildlife is nocternal. You'll need to do most of your careful
>>> observing at dawn and twilight. And keep a camera at the ready, I
>>> have mine on my desk at all times. And I'm still waiting to see pics
>>> of your new place... and I'm much more interested in the outside...
>>> I'm not much impressed with the inside, I can browse decor mags to see
>>> all that... I want a description and pics of the land and the exterior
>>> of the house.
>>
>> That is why I haven't seen anything remarkable yet. The deer were
>> seen by contractors in the very early morning.
>>
>> I am taking pics--admittedly more of the inside. I just have to
>> settle down and put together some folders--something I have never
>> done. I will describe the exterior.
>>
>> From the front, to the right of the driveway there is a small
>> flat area and then a nice moss-covered hill. Toward the street,
>> there are a couple of crab apple trees; a bit father in, there are
>> mostly white pines and oaks, with some nice fern below. (Go
>> fern!) There are some bushes at the corner of the driveway. I
>> have only identified the white lilac. Note that the realtor
>> apparently had these and other bushes severely trimmed, so most
>> are rather small. :-(
>>
>> Most of the front yard is to the left of the driveway. It is
>> rather odd and needs some serious work. After the driveway,
>> about 1/4 of the perimeter has a broken hedge of burning bush--why
>> broken, I don't know, and it seems to me that bb is considered to
>> be invasive. Right inside that are a small rose of sharon and
>> small maple (I hope not a Norway maple!). Following the
>> perimeter, there is a small (truncated) magnolia and some
>> unidentified tree with huge leaves. At the very left, on the lot
>> line, there seems to be row of alternating forsythia and rose of
>> sharon (the latter not confirmed by close inspection). Continuing
>> down the lot line, there are white pines and (mostly) oaks.
>>
>> A bit more than midway toward the house, there is a small curved
>> garden area, with two mangy, theoretically decorative, cherry
>> trees at the ends. (I have already planted their fruiting
>> replacements a bit in front of them.) There is a(?) rose and some
>> peonies--and much invasive ?honeysuckle?. (I am really dismayed
>> about that and the invasive trumpet vine in the back.)
>>
>> Around the foundation there are small (butchered) yews and equally
>> butchered azaleas. Hydrangeas frame the front steps (ugh! who
>> wants something there that is just ugly sticks for much of the
>> year?). On the right corner there is a dwarf evergreen of some
>> sort. On the left corner there are a red Japanese maple and a
>> couple of unidentified bushes.
>>
>> Along left side of house... ferns, Canadian mayflower (I like
>> those two), and the some of the wretched trumpet vine and
>> honeysuckle. Not a lot of space between that and the line of oaks
>> and pines--and I need to put in some low evergreens there in the
>> fall. Privacy is vastly worse than I wanted.
>>
>> Along right side of house, some unidentified plantings. A walkway
>> that goes back to the porch and one entry to the lower level
>> separates that space from the garage.
>>
>> The back... Looking from the house there is mostly empty space
>> (more lawn--ugh!) and then a wooded area, which is not a big as I
>> had hoped. To the right there is more of the aforementioned
>> hill--at that point it is basically trees. In the center, there
>> are two apple trees and a cherry tree, which I had planted. (The
>> hill and the woods are my favorite parts of the property. I need
>> to have it surveyed, so I know how much is ours. I believe most
>> of the hill and a decent amount of the woods do belong to us.)
>>
>> Now, looking toward the house... There is a very ugly deck that
>> is partially screened by two huge vines, which turned out to be
>> the dreaded trumpet vine. I am seeing why it is dreaded because
>> it is obvious that the previous owners had done battle with it,
>> and it seems to need to be reined in even on a weekly basis lest
>> it sneaks under the siding. Ugh!
>>
>> Around the brick patio, there are some nice lilies. The trumpet
>> vine and the burnt orange and yellow lilies clash with the purple
>> rose of sharon that is on the far left....
>>
>> Pshew. That is long and probably inadequate. I need to ask about
>> the noxious stuff on rec.gardens. I have thought about painting
>> things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
>> eat the things I have painted. As you have probably seen, I
>> really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
>> or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
>> out.
>
> A few photos would say more... of the house from the road, from the
> rear, and of the outside from a window on each side. What's the size
> of this property, sounds like quite a few acres to contain all you've
> described... any out buildings? You really should have had it
> surveyed prior to closing... mortgage lenders and title insurance
> companies require a recent survey... afterwards there is no point
> unless a dispute arises. You can get a pretty accurate boundary
> description for free by obtaining a tax map and interpolating the
> boundaries described on your deed... all the taxes, copy of the deed,
> past title holders, prices paid, mortgage, liens, and related info is
> available on line these days by County... this is all public record,
> anyone who knows in which County your property is located, with your
> name and/or address can look it up. The town clerk also has all this
> info on paper... you should ask the town clerk for the web site... you
> can learn a lot about your neighbors... if the name on the deed is
> different from the name on the mailbox than very likely they're
> tenants... if one of a couple's name is missing from the deed than
> very likely it's a shack up. Nowadays about half the private
> residenses are occupied by other than the owner and about half the
> deeds show only one owner. Take pictures, it's not necessary to
> catalog in order to post them.

It's only ca 40,000 sf. We have maps, but the lot is irregularly
shaped, so I don't have a great idea of how far it extends to the
right (looking from the front). I also am not sure how far back
it goes. Yes, a picture is worth 1,000 words, as they say.

I do need to investigate a "proposed easement" in the front. The
lawyers thought it was only proposed, but I wonder whether it
exists because it would account for some of the very strange
landscaping. (I first saw THAT particular map at the closing.
Eeeek!)

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:24:08 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:36:41 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Most wildlife is nocternal. You'll need to do most of your careful
>>>> observing at dawn and twilight. And keep a camera at the ready, I
>>>> have mine on my desk at all times. And I'm still waiting to see pics
>>>> of your new place... and I'm much more interested in the outside...
>>>> I'm not much impressed with the inside, I can browse decor mags to see
>>>> all that... I want a description and pics of the land and the exterior
>>>> of the house.
>>>
>>> That is why I haven't seen anything remarkable yet. The deer were
>>> seen by contractors in the very early morning.
>>>
>>> I am taking pics--admittedly more of the inside. I just have to
>>> settle down and put together some folders--something I have never
>>> done. I will describe the exterior.
>>>
>>> From the front, to the right of the driveway there is a small
>>> flat area and then a nice moss-covered hill. Toward the street,
>>> there are a couple of crab apple trees; a bit father in, there are
>>> mostly white pines and oaks, with some nice fern below. (Go
>>> fern!) There are some bushes at the corner of the driveway. I
>>> have only identified the white lilac. Note that the realtor
>>> apparently had these and other bushes severely trimmed, so most
>>> are rather small. :-(
>>>
>>> Most of the front yard is to the left of the driveway. It is
>>> rather odd and needs some serious work. After the driveway,
>>> about 1/4 of the perimeter has a broken hedge of burning bush--why
>>> broken, I don't know, and it seems to me that bb is considered to
>>> be invasive. Right inside that are a small rose of sharon and
>>> small maple (I hope not a Norway maple!). Following the
>>> perimeter, there is a small (truncated) magnolia and some
>>> unidentified tree with huge leaves. At the very left, on the lot
>>> line, there seems to be row of alternating forsythia and rose of
>>> sharon (the latter not confirmed by close inspection). Continuing
>>> down the lot line, there are white pines and (mostly) oaks.
>>>
>>> A bit more than midway toward the house, there is a small curved
>>> garden area, with two mangy, theoretically decorative, cherry
>>> trees at the ends. (I have already planted their fruiting
>>> replacements a bit in front of them.) There is a(?) rose and some
>>> peonies--and much invasive ?honeysuckle?. (I am really dismayed
>>> about that and the invasive trumpet vine in the back.)
>>>
>>> Around the foundation there are small (butchered) yews and equally
>>> butchered azaleas. Hydrangeas frame the front steps (ugh! who
>>> wants something there that is just ugly sticks for much of the
>>> year?). On the right corner there is a dwarf evergreen of some
>>> sort. On the left corner there are a red Japanese maple and a
>>> couple of unidentified bushes.
>>>
>>> Along left side of house... ferns, Canadian mayflower (I like
>>> those two), and the some of the wretched trumpet vine and
>>> honeysuckle. Not a lot of space between that and the line of oaks
>>> and pines--and I need to put in some low evergreens there in the
>>> fall. Privacy is vastly worse than I wanted.
>>>
>>> Along right side of house, some unidentified plantings. A walkway
>>> that goes back to the porch and one entry to the lower level
>>> separates that space from the garage.
>>>
>>> The back... Looking from the house there is mostly empty space
>>> (more lawn--ugh!) and then a wooded area, which is not a big as I
>>> had hoped. To the right there is more of the aforementioned
>>> hill--at that point it is basically trees. In the center, there
>>> are two apple trees and a cherry tree, which I had planted. (The
>>> hill and the woods are my favorite parts of the property. I need
>>> to have it surveyed, so I know how much is ours. I believe most
>>> of the hill and a decent amount of the woods do belong to us.)
>>>
>>> Now, looking toward the house... There is a very ugly deck that
>>> is partially screened by two huge vines, which turned out to be
>>> the dreaded trumpet vine. I am seeing why it is dreaded because
>>> it is obvious that the previous owners had done battle with it,
>>> and it seems to need to be reined in even on a weekly basis lest
>>> it sneaks under the siding. Ugh!
>>>
>>> Around the brick patio, there are some nice lilies. The trumpet
>>> vine and the burnt orange and yellow lilies clash with the purple
>>> rose of sharon that is on the far left....
>>>
>>> Pshew. That is long and probably inadequate. I need to ask about
>>> the noxious stuff on rec.gardens. I have thought about painting
>>> things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
>>> eat the things I have painted. As you have probably seen, I
>>> really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
>>> or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
>>> out.
>>
>> A few photos would say more... of the house from the road, from the
>> rear, and of the outside from a window on each side. What's the size
>> of this property, sounds like quite a few acres to contain all you've
>> described... any out buildings? You really should have had it
>> surveyed prior to closing... mortgage lenders and title insurance
>> companies require a recent survey... afterwards there is no point
>> unless a dispute arises. You can get a pretty accurate boundary
>> description for free by obtaining a tax map and interpolating the
>> boundaries described on your deed... all the taxes, copy of the deed,
>> past title holders, prices paid, mortgage, liens, and related info is
>> available on line these days by County... this is all public record,
>> anyone who knows in which County your property is located, with your
>> name and/or address can look it up. The town clerk also has all this
>> info on paper... you should ask the town clerk for the web site... you
>> can learn a lot about your neighbors... if the name on the deed is
>> different from the name on the mailbox than very likely they're
>> tenants... if one of a couple's name is missing from the deed than
>> very likely it's a shack up. Nowadays about half the private
>> residenses are occupied by other than the owner and about half the
>> deeds show only one owner. Take pictures, it's not necessary to
>> catalog in order to post them.
>
>It's only ca 40,000 sf. We have maps, but the lot is irregularly
>shaped, so I don't have a great idea of how far it extends to the
>right (looking from the front). I also am not sure how far back
>it goes. Yes, a picture is worth 1,000 words, as they say.
>
>I do need to investigate a "proposed easement" in the front. The
>lawyers thought it was only proposed, but I wonder whether it
>exists because it would account for some of the very strange
>landscaping. (I first saw THAT particular map at the closing.
>Eeeek!)

40,000 sq ft is a bit less than one acre... you should have had it
surveyed before closing... why didn't you buy title insurance... it's
too late now. And not knowing about easements over your land is not
good. I never heard of a "proposed easement", there's either an
easement or their isn't. Easements occur for egress when land is
divided for development the developer gives a piece up in order to
develop the land. Right Of Ways occur for egress by negotiation,
perhaps to install a utility or to gain access for landlocked
parcels.... often a ROW is negotiated with a neighbor for someone
whose land is divided by a body of water so they can have access other
than by boat or swimming. Sometimes bodies of water occur to land
divided due to beaver dams, around here once the beaver dam up a
certain size body of water they cannot be disturbed. Some are too
cheap to employ an excavating company and then it becomes too late.
There are two families down the road who have been feuding for at
least five years because one can't get to their house except over the
other's land or over the water dammed by beaver.

Anyway post pictures, I want to see.

brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:24:08 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:36:41 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> Most wildlife is nocternal. You'll need to do most of your careful
>>>>> observing at dawn and twilight. And keep a camera at the ready, I
>>>>> have mine on my desk at all times. And I'm still waiting to see pics
>>>>> of your new place... and I'm much more interested in the outside...
>>>>> I'm not much impressed with the inside, I can browse decor mags to see
>>>>> all that... I want a description and pics of the land and the exterior
>>>>> of the house.
>>>> That is why I haven't seen anything remarkable yet. The deer were
>>>> seen by contractors in the very early morning.
>>>>
>>>> I am taking pics--admittedly more of the inside. I just have to
>>>> settle down and put together some folders--something I have never
>>>> done. I will describe the exterior.
>>>>
>>>> From the front, to the right of the driveway there is a small
>>>> flat area and then a nice moss-covered hill. Toward the street,
>>>> there are a couple of crab apple trees; a bit father in, there are
>>>> mostly white pines and oaks, with some nice fern below. (Go
>>>> fern!) There are some bushes at the corner of the driveway. I
>>>> have only identified the white lilac. Note that the realtor
>>>> apparently had these and other bushes severely trimmed, so most
>>>> are rather small. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Most of the front yard is to the left of the driveway. It is
>>>> rather odd and needs some serious work. After the driveway,
>>>> about 1/4 of the perimeter has a broken hedge of burning bush--why
>>>> broken, I don't know, and it seems to me that bb is considered to
>>>> be invasive. Right inside that are a small rose of sharon and
>>>> small maple (I hope not a Norway maple!). Following the
>>>> perimeter, there is a small (truncated) magnolia and some
>>>> unidentified tree with huge leaves. At the very left, on the lot
>>>> line, there seems to be row of alternating forsythia and rose of
>>>> sharon (the latter not confirmed by close inspection). Continuing
>>>> down the lot line, there are white pines and (mostly) oaks.
>>>>
>>>> A bit more than midway toward the house, there is a small curved
>>>> garden area, with two mangy, theoretically decorative, cherry
>>>> trees at the ends. (I have already planted their fruiting
>>>> replacements a bit in front of them.) There is a(?) rose and some
>>>> peonies--and much invasive ?honeysuckle?. (I am really dismayed
>>>> about that and the invasive trumpet vine in the back.)
>>>>
>>>> Around the foundation there are small (butchered) yews and equally
>>>> butchered azaleas. Hydrangeas frame the front steps (ugh! who
>>>> wants something there that is just ugly sticks for much of the
>>>> year?). On the right corner there is a dwarf evergreen of some
>>>> sort. On the left corner there are a red Japanese maple and a
>>>> couple of unidentified bushes.
>>>>
>>>> Along left side of house... ferns, Canadian mayflower (I like
>>>> those two), and the some of the wretched trumpet vine and
>>>> honeysuckle. Not a lot of space between that and the line of oaks
>>>> and pines--and I need to put in some low evergreens there in the
>>>> fall. Privacy is vastly worse than I wanted.
>>>>
>>>> Along right side of house, some unidentified plantings. A walkway
>>>> that goes back to the porch and one entry to the lower level
>>>> separates that space from the garage.
>>>>
>>>> The back... Looking from the house there is mostly empty space
>>>> (more lawn--ugh!) and then a wooded area, which is not a big as I
>>>> had hoped. To the right there is more of the aforementioned
>>>> hill--at that point it is basically trees. In the center, there
>>>> are two apple trees and a cherry tree, which I had planted. (The
>>>> hill and the woods are my favorite parts of the property. I need
>>>> to have it surveyed, so I know how much is ours. I believe most
>>>> of the hill and a decent amount of the woods do belong to us.)
>>>>
>>>> Now, looking toward the house... There is a very ugly deck that
>>>> is partially screened by two huge vines, which turned out to be
>>>> the dreaded trumpet vine. I am seeing why it is dreaded because
>>>> it is obvious that the previous owners had done battle with it,
>>>> and it seems to need to be reined in even on a weekly basis lest
>>>> it sneaks under the siding. Ugh!
>>>>
>>>> Around the brick patio, there are some nice lilies. The trumpet
>>>> vine and the burnt orange and yellow lilies clash with the purple
>>>> rose of sharon that is on the far left....
>>>>
>>>> Pshew. That is long and probably inadequate. I need to ask about
>>>> the noxious stuff on rec.gardens. I have thought about painting
>>>> things with roundup, but then I thought that animals might try to
>>>> eat the things I have painted. As you have probably seen, I
>>>> really don't want to use anything that will be bad for the planet
>>>> or its nonhuman denizens, so other applications are automatically
>>>> out.
>>> A few photos would say more... of the house from the road, from the
>>> rear, and of the outside from a window on each side. What's the size
>>> of this property, sounds like quite a few acres to contain all you've
>>> described... any out buildings? You really should have had it
>>> surveyed prior to closing... mortgage lenders and title insurance
>>> companies require a recent survey... afterwards there is no point
>>> unless a dispute arises. You can get a pretty accurate boundary
>>> description for free by obtaining a tax map and interpolating the
>>> boundaries described on your deed... all the taxes, copy of the deed,
>>> past title holders, prices paid, mortgage, liens, and related info is
>>> available on line these days by County... this is all public record,
>>> anyone who knows in which County your property is located, with your
>>> name and/or address can look it up. The town clerk also has all this
>>> info on paper... you should ask the town clerk for the web site... you
>>> can learn a lot about your neighbors... if the name on the deed is
>>> different from the name on the mailbox than very likely they're
>>> tenants... if one of a couple's name is missing from the deed than
>>> very likely it's a shack up. Nowadays about half the private
>>> residenses are occupied by other than the owner and about half the
>>> deeds show only one owner. Take pictures, it's not necessary to
>>> catalog in order to post them.
>> It's only ca 40,000 sf. We have maps, but the lot is irregularly
>> shaped, so I don't have a great idea of how far it extends to the
>> right (looking from the front). I also am not sure how far back
>> it goes. Yes, a picture is worth 1,000 words, as they say.
>>
>> I do need to investigate a "proposed easement" in the front. The
>> lawyers thought it was only proposed, but I wonder whether it
>> exists because it would account for some of the very strange
>> landscaping. (I first saw THAT particular map at the closing.
>> Eeeek!)
>
> 40,000 sq ft is a bit less than one acre... you should have had it
> surveyed before closing... why didn't you buy title insurance... it's
> too late now. And not knowing about easements over your land is not
> good. I never heard of a "proposed easement", there's either an
> easement or their isn't. Easements occur for egress when land is
> divided for development the developer gives a piece up in order to
> develop the land. Right Of Ways occur for egress by negotiation,
> perhaps to install a utility or to gain access for landlocked
> parcels.... often a ROW is negotiated with a neighbor for someone
> whose land is divided by a body of water so they can have access other
> than by boat or swimming. Sometimes bodies of water occur to land
> divided due to beaver dams, around here once the beaver dam up a
> certain size body of water they cannot be disturbed. Some are too
> cheap to employ an excavating company and then it becomes too late.
> There are two families down the road who have been feuding for at
> least five years because one can't get to their house except over the
> other's land or over the water dammed by beaver.
>
> Anyway post pictures, I want to see.

This is (or was) a proposed sight easement.

The other problems mainly stem from folks not listening to me--and
me not being aggressive. :-(

I have concentrated on indoor pics. I will take some outdoor ones
soon--although the hill looks a lot better when the moss is green.
I will probably wait until the lawnmower is back in action....

--
Jean B.

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> Happy Happy:
> http://i32.tinypic.com/15pl3q0.jpg
>
> Yummy Yummy:
> http://i26.tinypic.com/ande9y.jpg

I've seen fawns around here too. 'tis the season. :-)
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