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White House Dinner for Mexican President
Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, but
when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. Bob |
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On 2010-05-21, Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, but > when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the > Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. Oh barf, wretch, gag me with a spoon! Rick may know how to cook Mexican, but he's a scumsucking lowlife dirtbag and I wouldn't call on him if he paid ME!!! My opinion of Obama jes dropped 10 pts. (as if he had 10 pts!) nb |
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notbob wrote:
>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >> the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > Oh barf, wretch, gag me with a spoon! > > Rick may know how to cook Mexican, but he's a scumsucking lowlife > dirtbag and I wouldn't call on him if he paid ME!!! My opinion of > Obama jes dropped 10 pts. (as if he had 10 pts!) As you say, Bayless knows how to cook Mexican. That's all the Obamas hired him to do. He didn't charge for cooking lessons at the dinner. He didn't give hawk his DVD set. He didn't set up a stall to sell his cookbooks. Your distaste for his merchandising techniques is noted and long-standing, but seemingly inapplicable here. The Obamas were frequent diners at Topolobampo when they lived in Illinois; it's perfectly natural for them to want to share that Mexican-dining experience with their honored Mexican guest. If Bayless is the best Mexican chef in the USA (and arguably he is), why hire an inferior chef for a dinner of such significance? His merchandise is of no more consequence than his hair color; the important thing is the quality of the food. Bob |
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From what I can put together from vague press releases (which were more
about fawning over the guests than they were about the food), this was the menu: * jicama, oranges, grapefruit, and pineapple chunks in a citrus vinaigrette * "green" ceviche of Hawaiian opah * Oregon Wagyu beef in Oaxacan black mole with black bean tamalón and grilled green beans. * chocolate cajeta tart with toasted homemade marshmallows, graham cracker crumble and goat cheese ice cream. Some of that deserves comment: 1. I think the "green" ceviche would be made green by the addition of "green stuff" just before serving. I'm curious about what the "green stuff" might have been. If *I* were the one making the ceviche, it would be lime zest (or pounded kaffir lime leaf), cilantro, roasted poblano and serrano chiles, and avocado chunks. But that's just me -- and for some reason I wasn't invited. :-) 2. I have the recipe for the Oaxacan black mole, and I can grill green beans as well as anybody. I've never tried making a black bean tamalón, so I must bow to Bayless for that accompaniment. However, I'm curious about the presentation: That's an awful lot of black-muddy-looking stuff on the plate! If you were to put together something like that, how would you make it look appealing to the diners? 3. I've had homemade marshmallows from professional candy-makers, but in truth I think I'd have used the Jet-Puffed marshmallows he They're consistent and (in my opinion) just as good as homemade. I also would have made Mexican chocolate ice cream rather than goat-cheese ice cream, but I don't know: would serving Mexican chocolate ice cream have perpetuated a stereotype? People get *so* sensitive about that kind of thing! Bob |
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On May 21, 1:23*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote: > From what I can put together from vague press releases (which were more > about fawning over the guests than they were about the food), this was the > menu: > > * jicama, oranges, grapefruit, and pineapple chunks in a citrus vinaigrette > > * "green" ceviche of Hawaiian opah > > * Oregon Wagyu beef in Oaxacan black mole with black bean tamalón and > grilled green beans. > > * chocolate cajeta tart with toasted homemade marshmallows, graham cracker > crumble and goat cheese ice cream. Here is more about the menu, and some pictures that are representative. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...n_580694..html Christine |
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"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message ... > Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, > but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the > Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > Bob IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. |
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Christine wrote:
>> From what I can put together from vague press releases (which were more >> about fawning over the guests than they were about the food), this was >> the menu: >> >> * jicama, oranges, grapefruit, and pineapple chunks in a citrus >> vinaigrette >> >> * "green" ceviche of Hawaiian opah >> >> * Oregon Wagyu beef in Oaxacan black mole with black bean tamalón and >> grilled green beans. >> >> * chocolate cajeta tart with toasted homemade marshmallows, graham >> cracker crumble and goat cheese ice cream. > > Here is more about the menu, and some pictures that are representative. > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_580694.html The recipe for the ceviche is modified from this recipe for herbed scallop ceviche http://www.rickbayless.com/recipe/view?recipeID=210 I wasn't *too* far off in my guess as to what went into it. None of the pictures shown were of the food served! All the food photos were of similar Bayless dishes which were online elsewhere. I guess that's what was meant by "representative." Bob |
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In article >,
"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message > ... > > Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, > > but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the > > Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > > > Bob > > IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I don't > look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any country. > Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a taste of > American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. I was thinking the same thing.... Bush most often served guests BBQ at his ranch iirc. -- Peace! Om Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> *Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine |
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Ed wrote:
> IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I > don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any > country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a > taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. Don't forget Creole! (Also don't forget what happened when GHW Bush got served Japanese cuisine in Japan.) I think Obama was trying to show common ground with Calderon. He *does* eat at Topolobampo. Enjoyment of Mexican food is presumably something they have in common. I'm sure he also wanted Calderon to feel both honored ("Look, I've brought our finest Mexican chef to cook for us, the guy who just last year won the Top Chef Master's title.") and at home ("You and me, we're simpático! Amigos! Verdad?") Bob |
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 05:44:25 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote: > >"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message . .. >> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the >> Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >> >> Bob > >IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I don't >look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any country. >Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a taste of >American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. Rick Bayless is no Mexican cook... he cooks Tex-Mex, a whole nother coozine, ie. trailer trash beaner. Rick Bayless no more cooks Mexican than your local Chinese take out prepares the cuisine of China. Mexico is a big country, just like China different parts prepare food very differently, Tex-Mex being the least representitive, Tex-Mex is the chop suey of Mexican cuisine. |
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Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz wrote:
> Rick Bayless is no Mexican cook... he cooks Tex-Mex Stop right the That's where you're wrong, and because it's right at the beginning of your stupid spluttering, it invalidates the whole ****ing stupid thing. Bob |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message > ... >> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably >> competent, but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a >> special occasion deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the >> Mexican menu, and the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >> >> Bob > > IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I > don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any > country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a > taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. I was having similar thoughts. Is it the norm to feed visiting heads of state foods that they are accustomed to--or variants thereof? That struck me as odd--and as being possibly perilous ground. Seems to me it would be far better to serve US fare, although I don't think meatloaf would be appropriate. -- Jean B. |
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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, > but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and > the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > Bob LOL, Not the Rick Bayless that Orlando Whatshisname claimed here on RFC didn't have the right to be considered "great" because he isn't native Mexican born!?? LOL I do question the logic of the menu though? I just don't believe it makes sense, other than to show respect, to serve Mexican food to Mexicans when perhaps they'd like to try something else on their travels? When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they get served? |
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 03:40:07 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Bob
Terwilliger" > wrote, >I think Obama was trying to show common ground with Calderon. I think Obama was singing "Anything you can do, we can do better." |
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Goomba wrote:
> When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they get > served? What kind of message do you suppose would be sent if Obama went to Mexico and was served chitlins and watermelon? Bob |
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:41:35 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably >>> competent, but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a >>> special occasion deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the >>> Mexican menu, and the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >>> >>> Bob >> >> IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I >> don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any >> country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a >> taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. > >I was having similar thoughts. Is it the norm to feed visiting >heads of state foods that they are accustomed to--or variants >thereof? That struck me as odd--and as being possibly perilous >ground. For politicos kissy-ass supercedes perilous. |
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"Jean B." > wrote in message
... > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >>> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >>> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >>> the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >>> >>> Bob >> >> IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I >> don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any >> country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a >> taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. > > I was having similar thoughts. Is it the norm to feed visiting heads of > state foods that they are accustomed to--or variants thereof? That struck > me as odd--and as being possibly perilous ground. Seems to me it would be > far better to serve US fare, although I don't think meatloaf would be > appropriate. > > -- > Jean B. To be very American he should have served like Martha Randolph (daughter of Thomas Jefferson) fried chicken with cream gravy. Or, Senate Bean Soup Jill |
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"Goomba" > wrote in message
... > Bob Terwilliger wrote: >> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >> the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >> >> Bob > > LOL, Not the Rick Bayless that Orlando Whatshisname claimed here on RFC > didn't have the right to be considered "great" because he isn't native > Mexican born!?? LOL > > I do question the logic of the menu though? I just don't believe it makes > sense, other than to show respect, to serve Mexican food to Mexicans when > perhaps they'd like to try something else on their travels? When American > presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they get served? Since when did a US president go to Mexico? Jill |
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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, but > when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the > Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. If I were the Mexican President, I'd probably think that this was either bordering on the weak-minded, or else that they were making a mockery of me. Otherwise I'd be overjoyed and hope that Rick Bayless would serve me his menudo, which he makes sans the vile, evil hominy, according to his recipe in "Authentic Mexican". Victor |
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In article >,
Goomba > wrote: > Bob Terwilliger wrote: > > Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, > > but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and > > the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > > > Bob > > LOL, Not the Rick Bayless that Orlando Whatshisname claimed here on RFC > didn't have the right to be considered "great" because he isn't native > Mexican born!?? LOL > > I do question the logic of the menu though? I just don't believe it > makes sense, other than to show respect, to serve Mexican food to > Mexicans when perhaps they'd like to try something else on their > travels? When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they > get served? I'd eat it. :-) From a network news site: The menu, provided by the First Ladyąs office: Jicama with Oranges, Grapefruit, and Pineapple Citrus Vinaigrette Ulises Valdez Chardonnay 2007 łRussian River˛ Herb Green Ceviche of Hawaiian Opah Sesame-Cilantro Cracker *** Oregon Wagyu Beef in Oaxacan Black Mole Black Bean Tamalon and Grilled Green Beans Herrera Cabernet Sauvignon 2006 łSeleccion Rebecca˛ Chocolate-Cajeta Tart Toasted Homemade Marshmallows Graham Cracker Crumble and Goat Cheese Ice Cream Mumm Napa łCarlos Santana Brut˛ N/V AFA what to serve an international visitor, I think it's pretty cool to offer some familiar (hopefully) flavors and ingredients in a dish that may not be a traditional or typical use of the item. JMO. When my Big Bosses entertained visiting Chinese Big Bosses, they went to high quality Chinese restaurants * the visitors were not interested in eating American food. <shrug> -- Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures |
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In article >,
"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message > ... > > Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, > > but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the > > Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > > > Bob > > IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. Yahbut, you're not a head of state and no one's trying to impress you, Ed. "-) > I don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to > any country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give > him a taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. I'll bet the White House staff has researched el presidente's food preferences and dislikes and paid attention to the notes. -- Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller Updated 4-24-2010 with food story and pictures |
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On 2010-05-21 05:41:35 -0700, Jean B. said:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >>> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >>> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >>> the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >>> >>> Bob >> >> IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I >> don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to any >> country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give him a >> taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. > > I was having similar thoughts. Is it the norm to feed visiting heads > of state foods that they are accustomed to--or variants thereof? That > struck me as odd--and as being possibly perilous ground. Seems to me > it would be far better to serve US fare, although I don't think > meatloaf would be appropriate. I think there are a number of reasons. One is to reinforce the idea that their cuisine is not only thought highly of in a foreign nation (the USA) or one of the wealthiest and mightiest nations in the world (the USA), but that one of our most highly regarded chefs currently, Bayless, is a specialist of sorts in a hyrid of Mexico and American cuisine. You see, it's a metaphor, in the concrete, of the kinship of nations. Additionally it was a statement that the lowly cuisine of Mexico has, in recent years, begun to be accepted as a significant "world cuisine" along with Japanese, Italian, French, Chinese and Indian. Though I'd guess American cuisine (even disregarding the seminal meatloaf), still has a ways to go in this regard. Finally, perhaps the idea of not taking the same dullard approach as the Bushes was intentional, as opposed to the blundering mistake of a non-Republican unable to figure out to do things the way a Republican would do them. Just as a change of pace. |
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On 2010-05-21 06:41:06 -0700, Bob Terwilliger said:
> Goomba wrote: > >> When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they get served? > > What kind of message do you suppose would be sent if Obama went to > Mexico and was served chitlins and watermelon? If it was done by a world class chef with imagination I'm sure it would be delightful. But I don't think Bayless put together a meal of "masa and beans", to attempt a correlary to your suggestion. If you're asking what would the message be if any of the dishes contained tripe or watermelon, I think the message would have be none. Not that it's important to an insult, but Obama doesn't come from the south, where chitlins and watermelon were noteworthy food for poor folks. In Hawaii and Chicago both, the food of poor folk would be different. But then then Obama wasn't poor. |
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On 5/21/2010 10:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> "Goomba" > wrote in message > ... >> Bob Terwilliger wrote: >>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably >>> competent, but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a >>> special occasion deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the >>> Mexican menu, and the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >>> >>> Bob >> >> LOL, Not the Rick Bayless that Orlando Whatshisname claimed here on >> RFC didn't have the right to be considered "great" because he isn't >> native Mexican born!?? LOL >> >> I do question the logic of the menu though? I just don't believe it >> makes sense, other than to show respect, to serve Mexican food to >> Mexicans when perhaps they'd like to try something else on their >> travels? When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose >> they get served? > > > > Since when did a US president go to Mexico? Last month. George L |
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Tis only another international gaff by our foolish leader, almost as
arrogant as giving the Queen of England a copy of some of his speeches. He is such a buffoon. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> IMO, it is a dumb move. When I go to Mexico, I eat the local food. I > don't look for classic (US)American dishes. Same with travel to > any country. Calderon eats good Mexican food every day. Why not give > him a taste of American barbecue or steak, or meatloaf, etc. LOL!!! I had shared the same thought. But, then, ya know, they don't have good mexican food in mexico. Or competent mexican chefs. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
... > Bob Terwilliger wrote: > >> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >> but >> when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >> the >> Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > If I were the Mexican President, I'd probably think that this was either > bordering on the weak-minded, or else that they were making a mockery of > me. > > Otherwise I'd be overjoyed and hope that Rick Bayless would serve me his > menudo, which he makes sans the vile, evil hominy, according to his > recipe in "Authentic Mexican". > > Victor I'd love to see your recipe for Menudo. I was thinking of having some for lunch but since I can only find it in cans. And yes, it contains hominy, which my friend whose name also is Victor and he's *from Mexico*) tells me is traditional. Do share! I'm a little strange in that I love tripe and homniy in a rich spicy broth. Jill |
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Goomba > wrote:
>Bob Terwilliger wrote: >> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >> the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >LOL, Not the Rick Bayless that Orlando Whatshisname claimed here on RFC >didn't have the right to be considered "great" because he isn't native >Mexican born!?? LOL >I do question the logic of the menu though? I just don't believe it >makes sense, other than to show respect, to serve Mexican food to >Mexicans when perhaps they'd like to try something else on their >travels? When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they >get served? "Arizona Prickly Pears". S. |
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:47:01 -0700 (PDT), Nan wrote:
> Tis only another international gaff by our foolish leader, almost as > arrogant as giving the Queen of England a copy of some of his > speeches. He is such a buffoon. whatever he serves, says, or does is wrong for folks like you. also you're apparently wrong on the facts: So what do you get the queen who has everything? If you're President Obama - and the queen in question is Elizabeth II of England - you get her a generously loaded iPod that includes video footage of her 2007 visit to the U.S. and songs made popular on Broadway. That's what Obama bestowed on Her Royal Highness Wednesday, along with a rare songbook signed by "The King and I" composer Richard Rodgers, of Rodgers and Hammerstein fame. Queen Elizabeth, in turn, gave the Obamas a silver-framed photo of herself and her husband, Prince Philip, which is apparently the standard-issue gift at Buckingham Palace for visiting dignitaries. Her Majesty's Royal iPod gift was stocked with 40 tunes from popular Broadway productions, including "West Side Story," "My Fair Lady" and "South Pacific." The playlist also features "Oklahoma!" Carol Channing's rendition of "Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend," "Memory" from Cats and "Shall We Dance?" featured in "The King and I." <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/04/01/2009-04-01_president_obama_gives_queen_ipod_loaded_-1.html> blake |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > "Victor Sack" > wrote in message > ... >> Bob Terwilliger wrote: >> >>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >>> but >>> when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >>> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >>> the >>> Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >> >> If I were the Mexican President, I'd probably think that this was either >> bordering on the weak-minded, or else that they were making a mockery of >> me. >> >> Otherwise I'd be overjoyed and hope that Rick Bayless would serve me his >> menudo, which he makes sans the vile, evil hominy, according to his >> recipe in "Authentic Mexican". >> >> Victor > > I'd love to see your recipe for Menudo. I was thinking of having some for > lunch but since I can only find it in cans. And yes, it contains hominy, > which my friend whose name also is Victor and he's *from Mexico*) tells me > is traditional. Do share! I'm a little strange in that I love tripe and > homniy in a rich spicy broth. > > Jill Ah! Memories of Campbell's Pepper Pot Soup, which I haven't had since I was a child. I wonder if it's still made? Felice |
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"Felice" > wrote in message
... > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> "Victor Sack" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Bob Terwilliger wrote: >>> >>>> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >>>> but >>>> when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >>>> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >>>> the >>>> Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >>> >>> If I were the Mexican President, I'd probably think that this was either >>> bordering on the weak-minded, or else that they were making a mockery of >>> me. >>> >>> Otherwise I'd be overjoyed and hope that Rick Bayless would serve me his >>> menudo, which he makes sans the vile, evil hominy, according to his >>> recipe in "Authentic Mexican". >>> >>> Victor >> >> I'd love to see your recipe for Menudo. I was thinking of having some >> for lunch but since I can only find it in cans. And yes, it contains >> hominy, which my friend whose name also is Victor and he's *from Mexico* >> tells me is traditional. Do share! I'm a little strange in that I love >> tripe and homniy in a rich spicy broth. >> >> Jill > > Ah! Memories of Campbell's Pepper Pot Soup, which I haven't had since I > was a child. I wonder if it's still made? > > Felice > No idea. The brand of menudo I buy is Juanitas. I forgot about Pepper Pot soup. I'll bet they still make it but it is probably hard to find Jill |
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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message ... | | I'll bet the White House staff has researched el presidente's food | preferences and dislikes and paid attention to the notes. | Of course. I'm sure the White House asks what the guest would like to eat, what allergies or dislikes he has, and what favorites he has. The thought of a surprise meal at a state dinner is pretty ludicrous. pavane |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... | | Since when did a US president go to Mexico? | The last three were Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Barrack Obama. pavane |
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On 2010-05-21, Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
> is of no more consequence than his hair color; the important thing is the > quality of the food. A dirtbag is a dirtbag is a dirtbag, skills notwithstanding. nb |
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:54:02 -0400, Goomba >
wrote: >Bob Terwilliger wrote: >> Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, >> but when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion >> deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and >> the Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. >> >> Bob > >LOL, Not the Rick Bayless that Orlando Whatshisname claimed here on RFC >didn't have the right to be considered "great" because he isn't native >Mexican born!?? LOL > >I do question the logic of the menu though? I just don't believe it >makes sense, other than to show respect, to serve Mexican food to >Mexicans It shows total lack of respect to attempt to outdo a dignitary's native cuisine by serving Taco Bell. >when perhaps they'd like to try something else on their >travels? When American presidents go to Mexico, what do you suppose they >get served? Q'd Pachyderm ribs and wartymelon a la Kenya. hehe The respectful thing is to serve a cuisine that would be neutral to both ethnicities... I'da served eastern European fare. Toast points with caviar/lox n' Crystal Palace vodka Hot borscht Braised flanken with creamy horseradish sauce Potato kugel Harvard beets Nesselrode pie/Honeycake Beverages of choice from Crystal Palace! LOL |
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On May 21, 12:38*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote: > Cristeta Comerford, the White House head chef, is reasonably competent, but > when Felipe Calderón is the guest of honor, it's a special occasion > deserving an especially-talented chef to oversee the Mexican menu, and the > Obamas got a great one: Rick Bayless. > > Bob I've always thought it's very odd to serve food from the visitor's country. They should be serving typical midwest (Chicago) fare. N. |
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On May 21, 7:22*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote: > Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz wrote: > > > Rick Bayless is no Mexican cook... he cooks Tex-Mex > > Stop right the That's where you're wrong, and because it's right at the > beginning of your stupid spluttering, it invalidates the whole ****ing > stupid thing. > > Bob Yup, Shel obviously doesn't know what Bayless cooks, or anything about the origins of what he cooks. It's enough to turn me off Sheldon! Oh, wait .... that's already happened. LOL. N. |
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On May 21, 10:47*am, Nan > wrote:
> Tis only another international gaff by our foolish leader, almost as > arrogant as giving the Queen of England a copy of some of his > speeches. He is such a buffoon. Not to drift into really political waters, but I don't believe anyone can match either of the Bushes - and especially the younger - for public buffoonery. N. |
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On May 21, 5:41*am, "Jean B." > wrote:
> although I don't think meatloaf would be appropriate. > You haven't eaten my meatloaf then. |
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On May 21, 8:25 am, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote: > > AFA what to serve an international visitor, I think it's pretty cool to > offer some familiar (hopefully) flavors and ingredients in a dish that > may not be a traditional or typical use of the item. JMO. Opah from Hawaii and Wagyu from Oregon showcase fine US ingredients. Rick Bayless is not only a world class chef but one who has spent many years demonstrating the greatest respect for Mexican anthropology. The Obamas are very familiar with his food through his Chicago restaurants. I think the choice was an obvious winner. -aem |
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