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I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
They are generally up around $7.99 on up.

I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.

I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
prepare and shell.
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On Feb 20, 7:11*am, Omelet > wrote:
> I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
>
> I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) *Only saw it once (and
> bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. *It's usually twice that. *I'm not a
> fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
>
> I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> prepare and shell.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." *
> --Steve Rothstein
>
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Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?
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Omelet wrote:
> I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> They are generally up around $7.99 on up.


We routinely pay $2.50 to $3.50 per lb for shrimp fresh from the boat
here on the coast. The size of the shrimp determines cost here, $3.50 a
lb are jumbos, literally. Personally I prefer a medium shrimp and will
even buy "gumbo" shrimp (very small ones)to freeze in one gumbo batches.

The cheapest shrimp I see in local markets are foreign, usually farmed
and generally from either China or Vietnam. Tried some once, didn't like
the taste. Same with the Vietnamese catfish and the Chinese crawfish,
bad taste to them. Of course it could be my prejudices at work too.

>
> I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.


Never met a King or Snow crab I could like, most of them we get here are
from the factory ships in the Bering Sea and are very salty. Of course
blue crab is our favorite and we can get them fresh from the boats or go
a few miles south and catch our own. DW grew up on Chesapeake Bay and
can shuck a crab faster than most people can peel a shrimp.
>
> I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> prepare and shell.


Om, I used to buy fresh shrimp from friends boats for 25 to 30 cents a
lb back in the sixties and routinely would buy up to 200 lbs to share
with family. Great fun sitting around heading the shrimp and then
packaging them for the freezer. Heads either went to make shrimp stock
or into the compost heap to later be spread in the garden. Fish was
always fresh as I fished in the Gulf and the local salt water estuaries
at least one day a week. Would do the same today if I could but age
catches up with us all eventually. I do miss catching the fish or shrimp
and cooking them within an hour, nothing like fresh.

Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:11:20 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
>
> I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
>


some hold that eating blues is more a recreational activity indulged in
while drinking beer than an actual dining-type experience.

your pal,
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>,
Kalmia > wrote:

> On Feb 20, 7:11*am, Omelet > wrote:
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
> >
> > I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) *Only saw it once (and
> > bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. *It's usually twice that. *I'm not a
> > fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> > tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
> >
> > I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> > prepare and shell.

>
> Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?


From the quick research I did, seems like that is the culprit for
lowered pricing..
Personally, I LIKE being able to afford to eat more shrimp!

Some of the cheap shrimp around here tho' is wild caught gulf coast
shrimp.
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> In article
> >,
> Kalmia > wrote:
>
>> On Feb 20, 7:11 am, Omelet > wrote:
>> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
>> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
>> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
>> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
>> >
>> > I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
>> > bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
>> > fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
>> > tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
>> >
>> > I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
>> > prepare and shell.

>>
>> Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?

>
> From the quick research I did, seems like that is the culprit for
> lowered pricing..
> Personally, I LIKE being able to afford to eat more shrimp!
>
> Some of the cheap shrimp around here tho' is wild caught gulf coast
> shrimp.
> --

I agree, I like the current prices. And we have been able to find wild
caught very cheap. We like to keep shrimp in the freezer as I can turn it
into a very nice meal on short notice if need be. I only buy them raw, as
they are so easy to cook. When Costco has seafood promotion, the king crab
legs are very reasonable. We are not big on crab, and when we do buy it we
eat it cold as a cocktail.

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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.

>
> We routinely pay $2.50 to $3.50 per lb for shrimp fresh from the boat
> here on the coast. The size of the shrimp determines cost here, $3.50 a
> lb are jumbos, literally. Personally I prefer a medium shrimp and will
> even buy "gumbo" shrimp (very small ones)to freeze in one gumbo batches.


But that has the heads on, so double that price!

>
> The cheapest shrimp I see in local markets are foreign, usually farmed
> and generally from either China or Vietnam. Tried some once, didn't like
> the taste. Same with the Vietnamese catfish and the Chinese crawfish,
> bad taste to them. Of course it could be my prejudices at work too.


Could be. The farmed shrimp taste fine to me, but I mostly get Gulf
Coast wild caught. It appears that the farmed shrimp have brought the
overall prices down.

>
> >
> > I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> > bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> > fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> > tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.

>
> Never met a King or Snow crab I could like, most of them we get here are
> from the factory ships in the Bering Sea and are very salty. Of course
> blue crab is our favorite and we can get them fresh from the boats or go
> a few miles south and catch our own. DW grew up on Chesapeake Bay and
> can shuck a crab faster than most people can peel a shrimp.


Blue crab takes me a good 1/2 hour to shell for a measly 2 tbs. or so of
meat. It's not worth my time.

> >
> > I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> > prepare and shell.

>
> Om, I used to buy fresh shrimp from friends boats for 25 to 30 cents a
> lb back in the sixties and routinely would buy up to 200 lbs to share
> with family. Great fun sitting around heading the shrimp and then
> packaging them for the freezer. Heads either went to make shrimp stock
> or into the compost heap to later be spread in the garden. Fish was
> always fresh as I fished in the Gulf and the local salt water estuaries
> at least one day a week. Would do the same today if I could but age
> catches up with us all eventually. I do miss catching the fish or shrimp
> and cooking them within an hour, nothing like fresh.
>
> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.


Post jpegs. :-)
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blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:11:20 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
> >
> > I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> > bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> > fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> > tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
> >

>
> some hold that eating blues is more a recreational activity indulged in
> while drinking beer than an actual dining-type experience.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Pretty much. <g>
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"Dale P" > wrote:

> >> Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?

> >
> > From the quick research I did, seems like that is the culprit for
> > lowered pricing..
> > Personally, I LIKE being able to afford to eat more shrimp!
> >
> > Some of the cheap shrimp around here tho' is wild caught gulf coast
> > shrimp.
> > --

> I agree, I like the current prices. And we have been able to find wild
> caught very cheap. We like to keep shrimp in the freezer as I can turn it
> into a very nice meal on short notice if need be. I only buy them raw, as
> they are so easy to cook. When Costco has seafood promotion, the king crab
> legs are very reasonable. We are not big on crab, and when we do buy it we
> eat it cold as a cocktail.
>
> DaleP


I'm working on my Asparagus Crab soup photo series. It was really quite
wonderful. ;-d
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Omelet wrote:
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> George Shirley > wrote:


>> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.

>
> Post jpegs. :-)


I'm a cook, not a photographer. <G>


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Kalmia wrote:
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> On Feb 20, 7:11 am, Omelet > wrote:
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
> >
> > I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> > bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> > fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> > tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
> >
> > I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> > prepare and shell.
> > --
> > Peace! Om
> >
> > "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
> > --Steve Rothstein
> >
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> >
> > Subscribe:

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> Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?

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Kalmia wrote:
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> Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?


Much of it does, but also from farms in Central America.
Trashes the environment in both places, but hey, they've
got to make a living somehow.

I wouldn't eat any of it, because of the crap they feed
to the shrimp (unless they are feeding fish meal, but
how do you know?). I'll only eat wild-caught shrimp,
but I see it so seldom that I've just basically stopped
eating shrimp. I like shrimp, but it's not usually
worth the trouble to find it. Whole Foods has wild-
caught in their fish section, and Trader Joe's has it
frozen, sometimes. Since it's all likely to have been
frozen before I see it, I'd go with TJ's still frozen
over WF thawed, and thaw it myself.
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Omelet wrote:
> I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> They are generally up around $7.99 on up.


>
> I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> prepare and shell.

"

We love shrimp, too, but if you look carefully at the origin, you will
see the cheap stuff is probably farm raised in Vietnam or China. It's
only a matter of time before someone discovers they are crawling with
bacteria and viruses. (Google "farm raised shrimp health".) Ugh.


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George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.

>
> We routinely pay $2.50 to $3.50 per lb for shrimp fresh from the boat
> here on the coast. The size of the shrimp determines cost here, $3.50 a
> lb are jumbos, literally. Personally I prefer a medium shrimp and will
> even buy "gumbo" shrimp (very small ones)to freeze in one gumbo batches.
>
> The cheapest shrimp I see in local markets are foreign, usually farmed
> and generally from either China or Vietnam. Tried some once, didn't like
> the taste. Same with the Vietnamese catfish and the Chinese crawfish,
> bad taste to them. Of course it could be my prejudices at work too.
>

We bought some Chinese crawfish years ago when we lived in Dallas.
NEVER AGAIN!!! Wasted lots of time making a fine étouffée only to open
the bag and be driven out of the kitchen by the stench. Those mudbugs
must have been raised in a toxic swamp. That turned out to be a Pizza
Padron or Gloria's night.

Cindy

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Omelet wrote:
> I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
>
> I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
>
> I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> prepare and shell.


I'm just guessing, but I do live in one of the largest commercial
shrimping areas in the US. The price of fuel was down this year so the
price of the shrimp are reflecting it. When fuel was high a few years
ago, shrimp were very expensive, so I believe there is a definite
correlation.

I don't buy farmed shrimp from foreign countries.

Living here in way-the-heck-south Texas I can get Gulf of Mexico
wild-caught shrimp at pretty decent prices. I can get fresh shrimp if I
want it, but it's easier to just go to HEB when they have a sale and get
bags of the wild-caught Gulf shrimp that are frozen. I break the bags up
into smaller packages and seal them in the Zip Lock bags with the little
pump. We always have shrimp in the freezer. They are a versatile and
healthy protein and lend themselves to quick meals.

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Omelet wrote:
> I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> They are generally up around $7.99 on up.
>
> I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-) Only saw it once (and
> bought it) for under $7.00 per lb. It's usually twice that. I'm not a
> fan of snow crab and usually get dungeness when I can. Blue crab is
> tasty, but so tiny it's too much effort to shell it.
>
> I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> prepare and shell.

because of heavy importation from Asia including India.
You don't want to know how they raise them. They kill everything with a
very toxic poison, I've forgotten the name dry it coat the bottom with
diesel fuel and urea then fill it with water.
There is none or not much concept of cleanliness in Asia as a whole.
they defecate on the beaches so the tides will wash it out. They bathe
in the same water and use it to cook etc.
Tilipia are introduced to ponds ,after they harvest the bass. The
Tilipia clean the ponds of bass s**t and other things.
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Janet Wilder wrote:

> I'm just guessing, but I do live in one of the largest commercial
> shrimping areas in the US. The price of fuel was down this year so the
> price of the shrimp are reflecting it. When fuel was high a few years
> ago, shrimp were very expensive, so I believe there is a definite
> correlation.
>
> I don't buy farmed shrimp from foreign countries.
>
> Living here in way-the-heck-south Texas I can get Gulf of Mexico
> wild-caught shrimp at pretty decent prices. I can get fresh shrimp if I
> want it, but it's easier to just go to HEB when they have a sale and get
> bags of the wild-caught Gulf shrimp that are frozen. I break the bags up
> into smaller packages and seal them in the Zip Lock bags with the little
> pump. We always have shrimp in the freezer. They are a versatile and
> healthy protein and lend themselves to quick meals.


This week Krogers has 16/20 count Gulf shrimp on sale for $5.99 a pound.
Forgot to get some when we were there the other day but we'll stop in
before the sale is over.

HEB is one of the things I miss about Texas. The closest one to us now
is about 35 miles away and when we are over that way, we stop. I think
their produce and meat departments are way better than the other chains.

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George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > George Shirley > wrote:

>
> >> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.

> >
> > Post jpegs. :-)

>
> I'm a cook, not a photographer. <G>



And a pretty decent cook, too! I've eaten gumbo at your table. Mighty
fine, sir; mighty fine!
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>>> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.
>>> Post jpegs. :-)

>> I'm a cook, not a photographer. <G>

>
>
> And a pretty decent cook, too! I've eaten gumbo at your table. Mighty
> fine, sir; mighty fine!


Thank you Missus Barb, that's high praise coming from you. Miz Anne is
gone off to hear some Brit singers sing tonight. I'm trying to find out
what a counter tenor is, the group has two of those, one bass, a
baritone, and two tenors. Supposed to be very good.
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Om wrote:

> I'm working on my Asparagus Crab soup photo series. It was really quite
> wonderful. ;-d


I made an asparagus-crab soup last year using the recipe from _Into the
Vietnamese Kitchen_. It was good, but not great: The recipe had you simmer
the crab and asparagus for quite a long time, so the flavor would be
extracted from them into the broth. But of course the crab got sodden and
the asparagus got mushy from that prolonged cooking. If I do it again, I'll
strain the soup and throw away the overcooked crab and asparagus, then add
fresh crab and asparagus just before serving.

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> I'm working on my Asparagus Crab soup photo series. It was really quite
> wonderful. ;-d


Might photograph wonderful but flavorwise definitely a TIAD conflict.
I wouldn't serve asparagus even as a side with any seafood dish.
Actually the more I think about that combination the more I feel like
puking.
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George Shirley > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > George Shirley > wrote:

>
> >> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.

> >
> > Post jpegs. :-)

>
> I'm a cook, not a photographer. <G>


You can be both with practice! My food photography used to suck and
it's still not as good as some folks, but it's improving with time...

And it's FUN!
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> Omelet wrote:
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.

>
> >
> > I prefer shrimp of all the seabugs as they are flavorfull and easy to
> > prepare and shell.

> "
>
> We love shrimp, too, but if you look carefully at the origin, you will
> see the cheap stuff is probably farm raised in Vietnam or China. It's
> only a matter of time before someone discovers they are crawling with
> bacteria and viruses. (Google "farm raised shrimp health".) Ugh.
>
>
> gloria p


Actually, the farm raised shrimp prices have brought down the overall
cost of the wild shrimp too.

As to what they are fed, it has no impact on the meat flavor of the farm
raised.

Ever driven past a cattle feed lot or a pig farm? That stench near
cattle lots is silage. Rotten corn etc. Many pigs are fed garbage. I
used to feed my chickens all my kitchen garbage scraps. It only
improved the eggs.

It's the ultimate in recycling. :-)
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>
,
Cindy Fuller > wrote:

> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
> > Omelet wrote:
> > > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.

> >
> > We routinely pay $2.50 to $3.50 per lb for shrimp fresh from the boat
> > here on the coast. The size of the shrimp determines cost here, $3.50 a
> > lb are jumbos, literally. Personally I prefer a medium shrimp and will
> > even buy "gumbo" shrimp (very small ones)to freeze in one gumbo batches.
> >
> > The cheapest shrimp I see in local markets are foreign, usually farmed
> > and generally from either China or Vietnam. Tried some once, didn't like
> > the taste. Same with the Vietnamese catfish and the Chinese crawfish,
> > bad taste to them. Of course it could be my prejudices at work too.
> >

> We bought some Chinese crawfish years ago when we lived in Dallas.
> NEVER AGAIN!!! Wasted lots of time making a fine étouffée only to open
> the bag and be driven out of the kitchen by the stench. Those mudbugs
> must have been raised in a toxic swamp. That turned out to be a Pizza
> Padron or Gloria's night.
>
> Cindy


Sounds more like they were spoiled.
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Janet Wilder > wrote:

> I'm just guessing, but I do live in one of the largest commercial
> shrimping areas in the US. The price of fuel was down this year so the
> price of the shrimp are reflecting it. When fuel was high a few years
> ago, shrimp were very expensive, so I believe there is a definite
> correlation.
>
> I don't buy farmed shrimp from foreign countries.
>
> Living here in way-the-heck-south Texas I can get Gulf of Mexico
> wild-caught shrimp at pretty decent prices. I can get fresh shrimp if I
> want it, but it's easier to just go to HEB when they have a sale and get
> bags of the wild-caught Gulf shrimp that are frozen. I break the bags up
> into smaller packages and seal them in the Zip Lock bags with the little
> pump. We always have shrimp in the freezer. They are a versatile and
> healthy protein and lend themselves to quick meals.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder


Same here. Living near the gulf coast has it's advantages.
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wrote:

> Tilipia are introduced to ponds ,after they harvest the bass. The
> Tilipia clean the ponds of bass s**t and other things.


And everybody raves about Tilapia. <g> I've yet to find it worth the
assinine prices they charge for it around here.

I prefer catfish. (Ironic ain't it?)
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In article
>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > I do plan to google some research on this, but I've never seen the
> > really big shrimp on sale as frequently as I have this past 12 months.
> > Jumbo prawn/shrimp have frequently been $3.99 to $4.99 per lb.
> > They are generally up around $7.99 on up.

>
> Is it local/American/wild caught? Or is it Thai and Chinese, etc?


Both.

> I
> have found lots and lots of great deals on foreign caught seafood, but
> very few deals on local/American/wild caught seafood lately.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee @ Arabian Knits


I live near the Gulf Coast. :-)
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George Leppla > wrote:

> This week Krogers has 16/20 count Gulf shrimp on sale for $5.99 a pound.
> Forgot to get some when we were there the other day but we'll stop in
> before the sale is over.
>
> HEB is one of the things I miss about Texas. The closest one to us now
> is about 35 miles away and when we are over that way, we stop. I think
> their produce and meat departments are way better than the other chains.
>
> George L


IME H.E.B. has the best and freshest produce I've ever found anywhere,
and if it's not so fresh, they will mark it down for you, or pass it on
to the food bank.
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In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Om wrote:
>
> > I'm working on my Asparagus Crab soup photo series. It was really quite
> > wonderful. ;-d

>
> I made an asparagus-crab soup last year using the recipe from _Into the
> Vietnamese Kitchen_. It was good, but not great: The recipe had you simmer
> the crab and asparagus for quite a long time, so the flavor would be
> extracted from them into the broth. But of course the crab got sodden and
> the asparagus got mushy from that prolonged cooking.


Argh! Try my recipe, posted below. It'll be followed with pics fairly
soon. I'm having motivation problems between being depressed and
concentrating more on job hunting.

> If I do it again, I'll
> strain the soup and throw away the overcooked crab and asparagus, then add
> fresh crab and asparagus just before serving.
>
> Bob


Use a shell based crab or shrimp stock instead if you must. I just used
a pure asparagus stock and the crab was added to it, along with some
butter at the end.

Asparagus and Crab Soup

Approx. 5 lbs. tough asparagus stems
(I save them in the freezer until I have
a batch large enough to make soup)

1 lb. fresh shredded crab meat (I usually
use Dungeness but used King Crab this time
as it was on sale)

1 lb. tender asparagus stems
1 stalk celery
1 shallot
1/2 cup dry vermouth
1 sprig of fresh rosemary
6 fresh basil leaves
4 oz. salted butter

Salt to taste

Place asparagus stems into a pot and just cover with water
Add the rosemary sprig (minced) and basil leaves (torn up into small
bits).

Cook until the asparagus stems are turned to mush
(I used a pressure cooker for about 30 minutes)

Strain off stems and herbs, reserving the cooking liquid and run
thru a food mill or mash thru a fine mesh strainer to
get as much puree material that you can while removing
the fiber from the stems.

Add the asparagus mush back to the reserved liquid.

Chop the tender asparagus stems, celery
and shallots, then add back to the pot.
Bring to a brisk boil and reduce by about 1/3rd
stirring as needed to keep it from scorching.
Allow to cool a bit, then puree with a hand blender.

Melt the 4 oz. of butter and add along with the shredded crab meat and
vermouth, garnish as desired and serve hot.
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In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> Om wrote:
> >
> > I'm working on my Asparagus Crab soup photo series. It was really quite
> > wonderful. ;-d

>
> Might photograph wonderful but flavorwise definitely a TIAD conflict.
> I wouldn't serve asparagus even as a side with any seafood dish.
> Actually the more I think about that combination the more I feel like
> puking.


I'm beginning to think that you just don't like seafood hon'.
And that is ok. :-) Each according to their personal tastes!

Crab and asparagus together is very complimentary. So is Shrimp and
Asparagus. Lobster too.
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>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > Ever driven past a cattle feed lot or a pig farm? That stench near
> > cattle lots is silage. Rotten corn etc. Many pigs are fed garbage. I
> > used to feed my chickens all my kitchen garbage scraps. It only
> > improved the eggs.

>
> I also don't buy feedlot beef or pork. Our chickens get kitchen
> scraps as well, but chickens are omnivores. Farm raised fish and
> shellfish no longer get their natural diet. They get corn and other junk
> they'd never eat.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee @ Arabian Knits


I just don't find that it truly affects the taste of the meat.
But, YMMV as always. :-)

Shellfish are very much omnivores. The cleanup crews of the oceans!
Crabs especially love carrion. Bivalves are filter feeders.
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Omelet wrote:
> I just don't find that it truly affects the taste of the meat.
> But, YMMV as always. :-)
>
> Shellfish are very much omnivores. The cleanup crews of the oceans!
> Crabs especially love carrion. Bivalves are filter feeders.



My local Dutch butcher told me how they used to catch eels when he was a
kid in Holland. They would tie a line to a cow head and toss it into a
canal. They would come back the next day and pull the head out and it
would be crawling with eels.

Flat fish like sole and flounder are also bottom dwellers that feed on
all the stuff that ends up on the floor of the ocean.

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> wrote,
>And everybody raves about Tilapia. <g> I've yet to find it worth the
>assinine prices they charge for it around here.


Who raves about tilapia, except perhaps vendors? Mark Bittman says he
thinks it tastes muddy.

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In article > ,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > I just don't find that it truly affects the taste of the meat.
> > But, YMMV as always. :-)
> >
> > Shellfish are very much omnivores. The cleanup crews of the oceans!
> > Crabs especially love carrion. Bivalves are filter feeders.

>
>
> My local Dutch butcher told me how they used to catch eels when he was a
> kid in Holland. They would tie a line to a cow head and toss it into a
> canal. They would come back the next day and pull the head out and it
> would be crawling with eels.
>
> Flat fish like sole and flounder are also bottom dwellers that feed on
> all the stuff that ends up on the floor of the ocean.


My point exactly.
Fish, mollusks, crustaceans and many fowl take offal and turn it in to
tasty meat and eggs.

I don't get why people have a problem with that...

Vegetables take feces and turn it into good food.
What's the difference?
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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > George Shirley > wrote:
> >
> >> Omelet wrote:
> >>> In article >,
> >>> George Shirley > wrote:
> >>>> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.
> >>> Post jpegs. :-)
> >> I'm a cook, not a photographer. <G>

> >
> >
> > And a pretty decent cook, too! I've eaten gumbo at your table. Mighty
> > fine, sir; mighty fine!

>
> Thank you Missus Barb, that's high praise coming from you. Miz Anne is
> gone off to hear some Brit singers sing tonight. I'm trying to find out
> what a counter tenor is, the group has two of those, one bass, a
> baritone, and two tenors. Supposed to be very good.


Counter tenors sing the highest parts, back in the day when women did
not perform in public. Probably in these times they were castrati.

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Janet Wilder > wrote:
>
>> I'm just guessing, but I do live in one of the largest commercial
>> shrimping areas in the US. The price of fuel was down this year so the
>> price of the shrimp are reflecting it. When fuel was high a few years
>> ago, shrimp were very expensive, so I believe there is a definite
>> correlation.
>>
>> I don't buy farmed shrimp from foreign countries.
>>
>> Living here in way-the-heck-south Texas I can get Gulf of Mexico
>> wild-caught shrimp at pretty decent prices. I can get fresh shrimp if I
>> want it, but it's easier to just go to HEB when they have a sale and get
>> bags of the wild-caught Gulf shrimp that are frozen. I break the bags up
>> into smaller packages and seal them in the Zip Lock bags with the little
>> pump. We always have shrimp in the freezer. They are a versatile and
>> healthy protein and lend themselves to quick meals.
>>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder

>
> Same here. Living near the gulf coast has it's advantages.


When I was working in Corpus Christi, TX there were a couple of guys
from Joliet, Illinois who had hired on at the same company. One of them
drove his van home every few months to see his elderly parents. He would
buy fresh shrimp off the boat, cheap, load them into ice chests in his
van and head off. He told me he could get $7.00 a lb for medium shrimp
at the restaurants in Joliet and would routinely sell four or five
hundred lbs there. A couple of hundred lbs would go to his family to
consume. Paid for his trip, food on the trip, plus cash in the pocket.
This was in 1979-1980 and gasoline was pretty expensive then too, not as
high as today but still well over a buck a gallon IIRC. I thought he was
pretty smart to think of that.
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Cindy Fuller wrote:
> In article >,
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>>>>> Reminds me I need to start making more gumbo for Fridays during Lent.
>>>>> Post jpegs. :-)
>>>> I'm a cook, not a photographer. <G>
>>>
>>> And a pretty decent cook, too! I've eaten gumbo at your table. Mighty
>>> fine, sir; mighty fine!

>> Thank you Missus Barb, that's high praise coming from you. Miz Anne is
>> gone off to hear some Brit singers sing tonight. I'm trying to find out
>> what a counter tenor is, the group has two of those, one bass, a
>> baritone, and two tenors. Supposed to be very good.

>
> Counter tenors sing the highest parts, back in the day when women did
> not perform in public. Probably in these times they were castrati.
>
> Cindy
>

DW found out last night, the Brits call them either counter tenors or
mezzo sopranos. They sing just a wee bit deeper than an alto singer. She
said this group was very good and had just been in Minnesota on a gig
and were happy to be someplace fairly warm. Did you hear that Barb?
Repeat the Minnesota mantra, "We love it here, we love it here."
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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> When I was working in Corpus Christi, TX there were a couple of guys
> from Joliet, Illinois who had hired on at the same company. One of them
> drove his van home every few months to see his elderly parents. He would
> buy fresh shrimp off the boat, cheap, load them into ice chests in his
> van and head off. He told me he could get $7.00 a lb for medium shrimp
> at the restaurants in Joliet and would routinely sell four or five
> hundred lbs there. A couple of hundred lbs would go to his family to
> consume. Paid for his trip, food on the trip, plus cash in the pocket.
> This was in 1979-1980 and gasoline was pretty expensive then too, not as
> high as today but still well over a buck a gallon IIRC. I thought he was
> pretty smart to think of that.


Smart man indeed. :-)
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:11:20 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> I wish Kind Crab had been as affordable. :-)


The crab I buy are all dead so I wouldn't know if they were kind or
not. I sure hope not.

I bought two "cans" of king crab meat at Sunflower market for $7/lb
each. It's caught in the Bering sea and canned in Indonesia. It's
pasteurized in those clear tubs with metal lids with a refrigerated
life of about 6 months.

It's not he best king crab - missing the texture and some of the
sweetness, but it's as good or better than the pasteurized or frozen
lump you'll find at twice the price.

I'm not sure if this is a regular product or not. I'm going to
crack the other can tonight. Not sure for what, though. Last one I
just ate right out of the jar.

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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:01:17 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article
>
>> Where is this shrimp coming from? Farms in Asia?

>
> From the quick research I did, seems like that is the culprit for
> lowered pricing..
> Personally, I LIKE being able to afford to eat more shrimp!


For about $30/USD. anybody with a mud puddle in SE Asian can buy the
chemicals needed to sustain shrimp in it.

> Some of the cheap shrimp around here tho' is wild caught gulf coast
> shrimp.


I haven't been too impressed with Gulf shrimp. And the Gulf is
probably dirtier than some of those Asian mud puddles. the
Misissippi is the nation's alimentary tract.

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