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Autymn D. C. 16-02-2010 08:00 AM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
(first post at http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...92e08665aa5b1;
dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)

Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care about
thrift, health, or talecraft. (Without a shelven moderator, food is
open to carcinogens, and unless the lid is also a stopper too much
heat will leak out or be idle overgrate.) The furthest kit would be a
inductive hob; there seem to be inductive pressure cookers but not
inductively-conductive-convective-radiative ovens. There don't seem
to be invective ovens other than the bare pressure cooker and steam;
oil baths if hot can't reach food's insides under outsteam so there
isn't a invective stove also. Radiative heating elements still warm
in wideband so food doesn't make for the best antenna. Therefore I
crave the inductive-invective-irradiative cooker (or heater); it would
be at pressure of course. A even-better medium than steam is a
smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches on fire,
even better! Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can stoke the infrared
bands of gas and steam which would well seep inside the food (or
job). The whole thing would be so efficient (other than in any
transformers and lasing trap--but they would be by the outlet--and DC
is still better) thas when the food's inside is at 160 °F, the
cooker's inside would be the same, and its outside near room
temperature and easy to hold. I'd guess a turkey would take 2 mins.
tops, and a pizza 2 secs. :) Can it be done?

-Aut

Benj 16-02-2010 08:10 AM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
On Feb 16, 3:00*am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
> (first post athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
>
> Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care about
> thrift, health, or talecraft. *(Without a shelven moderator, food is
> open to carcinogens, and unless the lid is also a stopper too much
> heat will leak out or be idle overgrate.) *The furthest kit would be a
> inductive hob; there seem to be inductive pressure cookers but not
> inductively-conductive-convective-radiative ovens. *There don't seem
> to be invective ovens other than the bare pressure cooker and steam;
> oil baths if hot can't reach food's insides under outsteam so there
> isn't a invective stove also. *Radiative heating elements still warm
> in wideband so food doesn't make for the best antenna. *Therefore I
> crave the inductive-invective-irradiative cooker (or heater); it would
> be at pressure of course. *A even-better medium than steam is a
> smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches on fire,
> even better! *Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can stoke the infrared
> bands of gas and steam which would well seep inside the food (or
> job). *The whole thing would be so efficient (other than in any
> transformers and lasing trap--but they would be by the outlet--and DC
> is still better) thas when the food's inside is at 160 °F, the
> cooker's inside would be the same, and its outside near room
> temperature and easy to hold. *I'd guess a turkey would take 2 mins.
> tops, and a pizza 2 secs. :) *Can it be done?
>
> -Aut


PRESIDENT'S DAY SALE!
For one day only!

Kenmore inductive-invective-irradiative home ovens with laser-stoked
gas bands!

Now on sale at the blowout price of only $69,999.99!

Turkey.


Dirk Bruere at NeoPax 16-02-2010 02:04 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
Benj wrote:
> On Feb 16, 3:00 am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
>> (first post athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
>> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
>>
>> Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care about
>> thrift, health, or talecraft. (Without a shelven moderator, food is
>> open to carcinogens, and unless the lid is also a stopper too much
>> heat will leak out or be idle overgrate.) The furthest kit would be a
>> inductive hob; there seem to be inductive pressure cookers but not
>> inductively-conductive-convective-radiative ovens. There don't seem
>> to be invective ovens other than the bare pressure cooker and steam;
>> oil baths if hot can't reach food's insides under outsteam so there
>> isn't a invective stove also. Radiative heating elements still warm
>> in wideband so food doesn't make for the best antenna. Therefore I
>> crave the inductive-invective-irradiative cooker (or heater); it would
>> be at pressure of course. A even-better medium than steam is a
>> smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches on fire,
>> even better! Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can stoke the infrared
>> bands of gas and steam which would well seep inside the food (or
>> job). The whole thing would be so efficient (other than in any
>> transformers and lasing trap--but they would be by the outlet--and DC
>> is still better) thas when the food's inside is at 160 °F, the
>> cooker's inside would be the same, and its outside near room
>> temperature and easy to hold. I'd guess a turkey would take 2 mins.
>> tops, and a pizza 2 secs. :) Can it be done?
>>
>> -Aut

>
> PRESIDENT'S DAY SALE!
> For one day only!
>
> Kenmore inductive-invective-irradiative home ovens with laser-stoked
> gas bands!
>
> Now on sale at the blowout price of only $69,999.99!
>
> Turkey.
>


Does almost as much as a microwave, but only 100x the price!

--
Dirk

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Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 16-02-2010 02:05 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
On Feb 16, 3:00*am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
> (first post athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
>
> Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care about
> thrift, health, or talecraft. *(Without a shelven moderator, food is
> open to carcinogens, and unless the lid is also a stopper too much
> heat will leak out or be idle overgrate.) *The furthest kit would be a
> inductive hob; there seem to be inductive pressure cookers but not
> inductively-conductive-convective-radiative ovens. *There don't seem
> to be invective ovens other than the bare pressure cooker and steam;
> oil baths if hot can't reach food's insides under outsteam so there
> isn't a invective stove also. *Radiative heating elements still warm
> in wideband so food doesn't make for the best antenna. *Therefore I
> crave the inductive-invective-irradiative cooker (or heater); it would
> be at pressure of course. *A even-better medium than steam is a
> smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches on fire,
> even better! *Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can stoke the infrared
> bands of gas and steam which would well seep inside the food (or
> job). *The whole thing would be so efficient (other than in any
> transformers and lasing trap--but they would be by the outlet--and DC
> is still better) thas when the food's inside is at 160 °F, the
> cooker's inside would be the same, and its outside near room
> temperature and easy to hold. *I'd guess a turkey would take 2 mins.
> tops, and a pizza 2 secs. :) *Can it be done?
>
> -Aut


And you think this would be better? Would it make the food taste
better? If it's efficiency you want, just use the damned microwave.

David Harmon[_2_] 16-02-2010 06:15 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:00:48 -0800 (PST) in rec.food.cooking, "Autymn D.
C." > wrote,
> There don't seem to be invective ovens


Shouts insults at the food inside as it cooks?


Uncle Al 16-02-2010 08:47 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
"Autymn D. C." wrote:
[snip crap]

> Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care about
> thrift, health, or talecraft.

[snip crap]

If you cannot grill a ribeye steak to precipitate mindsearing oral
pleasure then you are not fully human.

> A even-better medium than steam is a
> smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches on fire,
> even better! Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can stoke the infrared
> bands of gas and steam which would well seep inside the food


Tell us by what mechanism a helium atom emits in the IR (requiring an
ungerade dipole transition, of course).

idiot

--
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

James Silverton[_4_] 16-02-2010 09:02 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
Uncle wrote on Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:47:19 -0800:

>> Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care
>> about thrift, health, or talecraft.

> [snip crap]


> If you cannot grill a ribeye steak to precipitate mindsearing
> oral pleasure then you are not fully human.


>> A even-better medium than steam is a
>> smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches
>> on fire, even better! Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can
>> stoke the infrared bands of gas and steam which would well
>> seep inside the food


> Tell us by what mechanism a helium atom emits in the IR
> (requiring an ungerade dipole transition, of course).


It is too late to suggest that the El Bulli restaurant try greaseless
deep-frying in supercritical carbon dioxide. However, the apparatus
would probably be very expensive if were to be safe.


--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Darwin123 12-03-2010 01:49 AM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
On Feb 16, 3:47*pm, Uncle Al > wrote:
> "Autymn D. C." wrote:
>
> [snip crap]
>
> > Damn, I hate grills; they're for boneheads who don't care about
> > thrift, health, or talecraft.

>
> [snip crap]
>
> If you cannot grill a ribeye steak to precipitate mindsearing oral
> pleasure then you are not fully human.
>
> > A even-better medium than steam is a
> > smaller gas such as helium or hydrogen--if the latter catches on fire,
> > even better! *Then a rare earth laser (erbia) can stoke the infrared
> > bands of gas and steam which would well seep inside the food

>
> Tell us by what mechanism a helium atom emits in the IR (requiring an
> ungerade dipole transition, of course).
>
> idiot

He said the he would use the laser only if the hydrogen caught
fire. The laser would excite the vibrational bands in the water
molecules and hydroxyl ions. Or maybe in the diatomic hydrogen
molecules, although he could that before the gas caught fire.
What is missing here is how directly exciting the infrared bands
could improve the cooking. The excitation energy would thermalize
quickly by collision. It is under pressure.
I think his device would have all the disadvantages of a Rube
Goldberg device, without the fun. Maybe if he would add a live chicken
somewhere.

Bill Penrose[_2_] 12-03-2010 03:56 AM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
On Feb 16, 1:00*am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
> (first post athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
>
> Damn, I hate grills;


There's nothing quite so satisfactory in terms of speed and thorough
cooking as a subcritical mass of U-235 in the shape of a donut.
Pushing food through the hole causes the core to become momentarily
critical, heating the food to any desired temperature in nanoseconds.
A few minutes for the short-lived nuclides to decay, and it's ready
for the table.

DB

Greg Goss 12-03-2010 04:22 AM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
Bill Penrose > wrote:

>On Feb 16, 1:00*am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
>> (first post athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
>> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
>>
>> Damn, I hate grills;

>
>There's nothing quite so satisfactory in terms of speed and thorough
>cooking as a subcritical mass of U-235 in the shape of a donut.
>Pushing food through the hole causes the core to become momentarily
>critical, heating the food to any desired temperature in nanoseconds.
>A few minutes for the short-lived nuclides to decay, and it's ready
>for the table.


I don't think "dragon-tickler" ovens are quite ready for prime-time.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Carey 12-03-2010 02:01 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
Greg Goss wrote:
> Bill Penrose > wrote:
>
>> On Feb 16, 1:00 am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
>>> (first post athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
>>> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
>>>
>>> Damn, I hate grills;

>> There's nothing quite so satisfactory in terms of speed and thorough
>> cooking as a subcritical mass of U-235 in the shape of a donut.
>> Pushing food through the hole causes the core to become momentarily
>> critical, heating the food to any desired temperature in nanoseconds.
>> A few minutes for the short-lived nuclides to decay, and it's ready
>> for the table.

>
> I don't think "dragon-tickler" ovens are quite ready for prime-time.


I think the Large Hadron Collider could be converted to the ultimate
speed burger cooker. Operated at the appropriate nuclei/energy
combination the particle energy deposition could be adjusted so that the
burger is heated to serving temperature by the passage of a single
bunch, which lasts 0.25 ns.

Maybe this operating mode could be added as part of the proposed Super
LHC upgrade in 20 years.

Omelet[_7_] 12-03-2010 02:53 PM

Build a better cooker than a pressure cooker or infrared oven?
 
In article >,
Carey > wrote:

> Greg Goss wrote:
> > Bill Penrose > wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 16, 1:00 am, "Autymn D. C." > wrote:
> >>> (first post
> >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.cooking-chat/msg/b6192e08665aa5b1;
> >>> dumb Google timed me out and the other newsgroups were struck out)
> >>>
> >>> Damn, I hate grills;
> >> There's nothing quite so satisfactory in terms of speed and thorough
> >> cooking as a subcritical mass of U-235 in the shape of a donut.
> >> Pushing food through the hole causes the core to become momentarily
> >> critical, heating the food to any desired temperature in nanoseconds.
> >> A few minutes for the short-lived nuclides to decay, and it's ready
> >> for the table.

> >
> > I don't think "dragon-tickler" ovens are quite ready for prime-time.

>
> I think the Large Hadron Collider could be converted to the ultimate
> speed burger cooker. Operated at the appropriate nuclei/energy
> combination the particle energy deposition could be adjusted so that the
> burger is heated to serving temperature by the passage of a single
> bunch, which lasts 0.25 ns.
>
> Maybe this operating mode could be added as part of the proposed Super
> LHC upgrade in 20 years.


It would be useful for the lunch hour...
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