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"Bob" > wrote in message ... > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. I didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to what the motivation is. Janet |
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On Jan 3, 10:44*am, "Bob" > wrote:
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly adding red meat to your diet. |
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On Jan 3, 12:47*pm, Christopher Helms > wrote:
> On Jan 3, 10:44*am, "Bob" > wrote: > > >http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > > You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly > adding red meat to your diet. Perhaps "omnivore" is a better title for these folks. Kris |
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Christopher Helms wrote:
> On Jan 3, 10:44 am, "Bob" > wrote: >> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > > > You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly > adding red meat to your diet. Any meat. nancy |
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"Christopher Helms" > wrote in message ... On Jan 3, 10:44 am, "Bob" > wrote: > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly adding red meat to your diet. Wondering about this. I do not call myself a vegetarian - but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. I do have plenty of tofu and soy based dishes and, when I do eat 'flesh' foods - it is either poultry (usually chicken, sometimes turkey) or seafood. So - no 'red' meat but 'flesh' foods. Am I a 'flexatarian'? JonquilJan Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning, you start dying |
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"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message m... > > "Bob" > wrote in message > ... >> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. I > didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to what the > motivation is. > Janet > Lots of them are real nutters! However, some, like my d-i-l, went veggie a couple of years ago after staying with her sister (who has since become an omnivore again). Returning form that visit, my son "needed" meat and called in at a burger place and at that moment, my d-i-l's stomach "turned over" and she couldn't face meat any more. She does eat fish (I cooked fish en papillote for her xmas dinner) so some would say she isn't a veggie. With all the different kinds, perhaps we should start calling them Faddists. Graham |
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JonquilJan wrote:
> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the flesh of fruits and vegetables as well? -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message ... > JonquilJan wrote: > >> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. > > Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the flesh of > fruits and vegetables as well? > > -- > Dave > What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before > you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan > Do you call seafood 'meat'? If not - what? I just used the term 'flesh' to differentiate between animal and non animal foods JonquilJan Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning, you start dying |
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graham said:
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message > m... >> >> "Bob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >> I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. >> I didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to >> what the motivation is. >> Janet >> > Lots of them are real nutters! However, some, like my d-i-l, went > veggie a couple of years ago after staying with her sister (who has > since become an omnivore again). Returning form that visit, my son > "needed" meat and called in at a burger place and at that moment, my > d-i-l's stomach "turned over" and she couldn't face meat any more. > She does eat fish (I cooked fish en papillote for her xmas dinner) so > some would say she isn't a veggie. > With all the different kinds, perhaps we should start calling them > Faddists. Graham I'm a meat-a-tearian. I get meat, I tear in. My favorite vegetable is gravy. |
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Mariotus Stangbetzner wrote:
> graham said: >> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message >> m... >>> "Bob" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >>> I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. >>> I didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to >>> what the motivation is. >>> Janet >>> >> Lots of them are real nutters! However, some, like my d-i-l, went >> veggie a couple of years ago after staying with her sister (who has >> since become an omnivore again). Returning form that visit, my son >> "needed" meat and called in at a burger place and at that moment, my >> d-i-l's stomach "turned over" and she couldn't face meat any more. >> She does eat fish (I cooked fish en papillote for her xmas dinner) so >> some would say she isn't a veggie. >> With all the different kinds, perhaps we should start calling them >> Faddists. Graham > > I'm a meat-a-tearian. I get meat, I tear in. My favorite vegetable is gravy. > "My favorite vegetable is gravy." I am soooo going to steal that line. George L |
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George Leppla said:
> Mariotus Stangbetzner wrote: >> graham said: >>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message >>> m... >>>> "Bob" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >>>> I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. >>>> I didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to >>>> what the motivation is. >>>> Janet >>>> >>> Lots of them are real nutters! However, some, like my d-i-l, went >>> veggie a couple of years ago after staying with her sister (who has >>> since become an omnivore again). Returning form that visit, my son >>> "needed" meat and called in at a burger place and at that moment, my >>> d-i-l's stomach "turned over" and she couldn't face meat any more. >>> She does eat fish (I cooked fish en papillote for her xmas dinner) >>> so some would say she isn't a veggie. >>> With all the different kinds, perhaps we should start calling them >>> Faddists. Graham >> >> I'm a meat-a-tearian. I get meat, I tear in. My favorite vegetable >> is gravy. >> > > "My favorite vegetable is gravy." > > I am soooo going to steal that line. > > George L Send my royalties vouchers to the Internet Foundation for Gravitization of Vegetation. |
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Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > "Bob" > wrote in message ... > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. I > didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to what the > motivation is. I'd call them ovo-lacto-bovo-porcino-vegetarians. Or hypocrites, for short. |
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Mark Thorson said:
> Janet Bostwick wrote: >> >> "Bob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >> I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. >> I didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to >> what the motivation is. > > I'd call them ovo-lacto-bovo-porcino-vegetarians. > Or hypocrites, for short. Are you a pesto-sanctimonio-morono-judgementarian, then? |
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In article > ,
"Janet Bostwick" > wrote: > "Bob" > wrote in message ... > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. I > didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to what the > motivation is. I thought it was a little stupid. These are people who used to be vegetarians but gave it up. But that wouldn't make for a good headline. As others on this group have noted, a lot of vegetarians, sooner or later, give it up. Still, when they are vegetarians, they are vegetarians, and unless they have a history of embracing "fads", it isn't easy to predict who will give it up or when. It's like someone who is a devout Catholic. It's rude to tell them that the church is declining, and people are dropping out, and probably in ten years they won't be a Catholic anymore. Besides, you really don't know. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> > How come the "vegetarians" get all these fancy new, politically > correct words to flaunt around while those of us who have no qualms > about eating anything haven't had a new word since prehistoric > times? What would you like? "Carnitarian"? "Omniphile" -- don't know about that one, sounds like some species of pervert. How about "anavegetarian"? |
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In article >,
"JonquilJan" > wrote: > "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message > ... > > JonquilJan wrote: > > > >> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. > > > > Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the flesh of > > fruits and vegetables as well? > > > > -- > > Dave > > What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before > > you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan > > > Do you call seafood 'meat'? If not - what? I just used the term 'flesh' to > differentiate between animal and non animal foods Crab meat. Peach flesh. The distinction is not as clear cut as you would like to make it. Miche -- Electricians do it in three phases |
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In article > ,
"Janet Bostwick" > wrote: > "Bob" > wrote in message ... > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. I > didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to what the > motivation is. No conflict. Vegetarians are not a monolithic group, any more than omnivores are. Miche -- Electricians do it in three phases |
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"Steve B" > wrote: > I haven't met a vegetarian yet that wasn't a nut case. > > Must be something lacking in their diet. Or in your perception. And I know some pretty nutty omnivores, too. Miche -- Electricians do it in three phases |
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I haven't met a vegetarian yet that wasn't a nut case.
Must be something lacking in their diet. Steve |
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"Sqwertz" > wrote > > How come the "vegetarians" get all these fancy new, politically > correct words to flaunt around while those of us who have no qualms > about eating anything haven't had a new word since prehistoric > times? > > -sw And what's the difference between throwing a live lobster, or a live potato in a pot of boiling water? And then they gouge the eyes out of potatos, skin them raw, slice them. As well as with all other living vegetables. I think they're into torture. I bet if they put little microphones in there, a lot of screaming could be heard. Steve |
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Sqwertz > wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:44:53 -0500, Bob wrote: > > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 > > "The word "flexitarian," meaning someone who mostly eats vegetarian > with the occasional cheesesteak thrown in, has been around for a > while." > > How come the "vegetarians" get all these fancy new, politically > correct words to flaunt around while those of us who have no qualms > about eating anything haven't had a new word since prehistoric > times? Here you go, Steve, from the "10 worst dining trends of the last decade" thread: FriedOnionBlossomarian Molecularian US$40arian communalarian FastFoodarian Yelparian foamarian MediaWhorearian deconstructarian -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Steve B wrote:
> > And what's the difference between throwing a live lobster, or a live potato > in a pot of boiling water? And then they gouge the eyes out of potatos, > skin them raw, slice them. As well as with all other living vegetables. I > think they're into torture. I bet if they put little microphones in there, > a lot of screaming could be heard. Oh no! Not the People For The Ethical Treatment Of Vegetables! |
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"Miche" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > "JonquilJan" > wrote: > >> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message >> ... >> > JonquilJan wrote: >> > >> >> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. >> > >> > Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the flesh of >> > fruits and vegetables as well? >> > >> > -- >> > Dave >> > What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before >> > you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >> > >> Do you call seafood 'meat'? If not - what? I just used the term 'flesh' >> to >> differentiate between animal and non animal foods > > Crab meat. > > Peach flesh. > > The distinction is not as clear cut as you would like to make it. > > Miche I do believe it is clear to 'most' people. Nit pickers are the exception. JonquilJan Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning, you start dying |
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"Miche" > wrote in message ... > In article > , > "Janet Bostwick" > wrote: > >> "Bob" > wrote in message >> ... >> > http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >> I thought that was an interesting article when I read it yesterday. I >> didn't realize vegetarians were so conflicted as a group as to what the >> motivation is. > > No conflict. Vegetarians are not a monolithic group, any more than > omnivores are. > > Miche My mistake then. I thought that 'vegetarian' defined a certain code of diet -- at least the "thou shalt not." I imagine that is what prompted the article. Janet |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote: >> On Jan 3, 10:44 am, "Bob" > wrote: >>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >> >> >> You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly >> adding red meat to your diet. > > Any meat. "Vegetarians" are generally screwed up about why they are "vegetarians"...of the ones I know not one makes any lick of sense of when explaining their "vegetarian" MO. -- Best Greg |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote: > >> Christopher Helms wrote: >>> On Jan 3, 10:44 am, "Bob" > wrote: >>>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >>> >>> >>> You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly >>> adding red meat to your diet. >> >> Any meat. > > > "Vegetarians" are generally screwed up about why they are > "vegetarians"...of the ones I know not one makes any lick of sense of > when explaining their "vegetarian" MO. [Following up to my own post...] Fer example: There is one who doesn't "eat meat" but she'll eat a stew or a soup or something that contains meat if she can "pick out the pieces of meat"... Then there are the ones who claim to be vegan for "health reasons" but they are chronic drunks, smokers, grossly obese, etc... The fridges of some of these I've seen are full of French Bread pizzas, frozen fries and other junk...no fresh veg or salad fixin's. Similar to a fat person who swears they are "eating healthy" by having a Diet Coke with their two Quarter Pounder and fries and fried apple pie lunch... There is one who will deign to eat something that contains chicken broth but will blanch in horror at ingesting beef broth. This despite the fact that chickens are omnivores, cattle are herbivores... I've not met a one recently who has even heard of things like "complete proteins", amino acids, etc... The "vegetarian" silliness goes on... -- Best Greg |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote: > >> Christopher Helms wrote: >>> On Jan 3, 10:44 am, "Bob" > wrote: >>>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >>> >>> >>> You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly >>> adding red meat to your diet. >> >> Any meat. > > > "Vegetarians" are generally screwed up about why they are > "vegetarians"...of the ones I know not one makes any lick of sense of > when explaining their "vegetarian" MO. It just amazes me when I see someone claim to be a vegetarian, so they don't order steak, they order fish or chicken. There might be a lot of fine points among the various vegetarian branches, but "no meat" would seem to be the clearly understood meaning of them all. Chicken and fish are meat. nancy |
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JonquilJan wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message > ... >> JonquilJan wrote: >> >>> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. >> >> Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the flesh >> of fruits and vegetables as well? >> >> -- >> Dave >> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >> > Do you call seafood 'meat'? Yes. Fish can also have cuts referred to as 'steaks'. > If not - what? I just used the term > 'flesh' to differentiate between animal and non animal foods A non-issue to begin with, and a term which is not reliable in distinguishing just what you eat or won't eat. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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Steve wrote:
> How come the "vegetarians" get all these fancy new, politically > correct words to flaunt around while those of us who have no qualms > about eating anything haven't had a new word since prehistoric > times? The term "locavore" is fairly new, and includes people who eat members of the animal kingdom. Of course, locavores don't eat ANYTHING, just anything which originates in their local area. Lin and I get local eggs and local meat (lamb, beef, and pork) on a regular basis. Bob |
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JonquilJan wrote:
> "Miche" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, >> "JonquilJan" > wrote: >> >>> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> JonquilJan wrote: >>>> >>>>> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. >>>> >>>> Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the >>>> flesh of fruits and vegetables as well? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave >>>> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >>>> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >>>> >>> Do you call seafood 'meat'? If not - what? I just used the term >>> 'flesh' to >>> differentiate between animal and non animal foods >> >> Crab meat. >> >> Peach flesh. >> >> The distinction is not as clear cut as you would like to make it. >> >> Miche > > I do believe it is clear to 'most' people. Nit pickers are the > exception. Your 'belief' is unfounded. It may seem clear to you, but it only SEEMS that way. I would also rather be a nit-picker, than a pretentious prig. -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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Greg wrote:
> "eating healthy" by having a Diet Coke with their two Quarter Pounder and > fries and fried apple pie lunch... Speaking of which: I distinctly remember getting a fried apple pie from some burger chain in my youth. I thought it was either McDonald's or Burger King. But that doesn't seem to appear on the menu of either chain anymore. When did it go away? Bob |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote: >> >>> Christopher Helms wrote: >>>> On Jan 3, 10:44 am, "Bob" > wrote: >>>>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/228720?GT1=43002 >>>> >>>> >>>> You can't keep calling yourself a vegetarian when you're regularly >>>> adding red meat to your diet. >>> >>> Any meat. >> >> >> "Vegetarians" are generally screwed up about why they are >> "vegetarians"...of the ones I know not one makes any lick of sense of >> when explaining their "vegetarian" MO. > > It just amazes me when I see someone claim to be a vegetarian, > so they don't order steak, they order fish or chicken. There > might be a lot of fine points among the various vegetarian branches, > but "no meat" would seem to be the clearly understood meaning > of them all. Chicken and fish are meat. Yup, *exactly*... -- Best Greg |
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:05:15 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> wrote: >It just amazes me when I see someone claim to be a vegetarian, >so they don't order steak, they order fish or chicken. There >might be a lot of fine points among the various vegetarian branches, >but "no meat" would seem to be the clearly understood meaning >of them all. Chicken and fish are meat. Maybe they are "no red meatarians" or people with gout who find it easier to say they're vegetarians. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:05:15 -0500, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > >> It just amazes me when I see someone claim to be a vegetarian, >> so they don't order steak, they order fish or chicken. There >> might be a lot of fine points among the various vegetarian branches, >> but "no meat" would seem to be the clearly understood meaning >> of them all. Chicken and fish are meat. > > Maybe they are "no red meatarians" or people with gout who find it > easier to say they're vegetarians. But they aren't. They're no-red-meat-eaters. The vege- part is pretty clear. nancy |
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:25:27 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote: >Greg wrote: > >> "eating healthy" by having a Diet Coke with their two Quarter Pounder and >> fries and fried apple pie lunch... > >Speaking of which: I distinctly remember getting a fried apple pie from some >burger chain in my youth. I thought it was either McDonald's or Burger King. >But that doesn't seem to appear on the menu of either chain anymore. When >did it go away? I think they both had it but mCshits was the first. mCshits also had raspberry danish that they put on a gadget with prongs that would heat it by injecting steam. I loved them as a kid. I don't know when they disappeared. I think the danish was the first to go away. Lou |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> sf wrote: >> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:05:15 -0500, "Nancy Young" >> > wrote: >> >>> It just amazes me when I see someone claim to be a vegetarian, >>> so they don't order steak, they order fish or chicken. There >>> might be a lot of fine points among the various vegetarian branches, >>> but "no meat" would seem to be the clearly understood meaning >>> of them all. Chicken and fish are meat. >> >> Maybe they are "no red meatarians" or people with gout who find it >> easier to say they're vegetarians. > > But they aren't. They're no-red-meat-eaters. The vege- part is > pretty clear. And on a side note plenty of vegetables can provoke gout, e.g. legumes, spinach, asparagus, broccoli, etc... -- Best Greg |
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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Greg wrote: > >> "eating healthy" by having a Diet Coke with their two Quarter >> Pounder and fries and fried apple pie lunch... > > Speaking of which: I distinctly remember getting a fried apple pie > from some burger chain in my youth. I thought it was either > McDonald's or Burger King. But that doesn't seem to appear on the > menu of either chain anymore. When did it go away? > I dunno, it's been many years since I've eaten at either place...IIRC they were once a popular item. -- Best Greg |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message ... > JonquilJan wrote: >> "Miche" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, >>> "JonquilJan" > wrote: >>> >>>> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> JonquilJan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> .....but I seldom eat any 'flesh' foods. >>>>> >>>>> Is it really that hard to say 'meat'? Or are you including the >>>>> flesh of fruits and vegetables as well? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dave >>>>> What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven >>>>> before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan >>>>> >>>> Do you call seafood 'meat'? If not - what? I just used the term >>>> 'flesh' to >>>> differentiate between animal and non animal foods >>> >>> Crab meat. >>> >>> Peach flesh. >>> >>> The distinction is not as clear cut as you would like to make it. >>> >>> Miche >> >> I do believe it is clear to 'most' people. Nit pickers are the >> exception. > > Your 'belief' is unfounded. It may seem clear to you, but it only SEEMS > that way. I would also rather be a nit-picker, than a pretentious prig. > I asked a simple question to start. Trying to describe what I eat. And if the term to describe my diet would be 'flexatarian'. I was lookiong for information - not ridicule. JonquilJan Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning, you start dying |
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