Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing


However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
pound of coffee! So back it went.

Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
disappointing to say the least.

Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?

TIA!

Arri London wrote:

> However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> pound of coffee! So back it went.
>
> Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> disappointing to say the least.
>
> Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>

You may have just gotten a bum one. Ours is going strong after two years
of several-times-daily usage, and Guy's had his for longer than that.
These are the ones at Costco with the conical hopper? This one?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/cuisinartgrinder

Serene

--
"I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up,
I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:54:20 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
>envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
>something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
>
>
>However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
>Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
>a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
>pound of coffee! So back it went.
>
>Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
>still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
>disappointing to say the least.
>
>Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>
I have a Solis Maestro Virtuoso... bought it on line from
http://www.sweetmarias.com/ in 2001, don't really remember the exact
price and don't feel like searching for the receipt, like $160 seems
right but likely costs more now... it's used every day and never had a
problem. As with all burr grinders they need routine cleaning, five
minutes with a small brush about once a month.

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
>
>
> However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> pound of coffee! So back it went.
>
> Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> disappointing to say the least.
>
> Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>
> TIA!

Yeah, I've got a De Longhi burr grinder that I really like.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:17:42 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote:

>Arri London wrote:
>>
>> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
>> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
>> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
>>
>>
>> However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
>> Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
>> a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
>> pound of coffee! So back it went.
>>
>> Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
>> still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
>> disappointing to say the least.
>>
>> Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>
>I have an Oster burr grinder that works great. A few weeks after we got
>it I thought it had died. It urned out to be that it needed a little
>cleaning. The find grins had built up and were blocking it from fitting
>exactly in place to hit a safety switch.

I've had a Cuisinart coffee grinder for almost three years now and not a
problem. It's used atleast three times a day.

"l, not -l" schrieb :
>
> On 26-Dec-2009, Arri London > wrote:
>
>> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
>> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
>> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'..
>
> I think the proper phrase is "Bean me up. . ." 8-)

No, it's "Scotch me up, Beamy!" ;-P

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:14:56 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 26-Dec-2009, Arri London > wrote:
>
>> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
>> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
>> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'..
>
>I think the proper phrase is "Bean me up. . ." 8-)


And the grinder bounces across the counter attempting a take off with a full
grind of expresso.

On 2009-12-27, brooklyn1 > wrote:

> I have a Solis Maestro Virtuoso... bought it on line from
> http://www.sweetmarias.com/ in 2001, don't really remember the exact
> price and don't feel like searching for the receipt, like $160 seems
> right but likely costs more now... it's used every day and never had a
> problem. As with all burr grinders they need routine cleaning, five
> minutes with a small brush about once a month.

This particular model comes in at the bottom of the acceptable burr
grinder models, its burr set used on several brands. I had an
Ibiteral from Spain with the same burrs. Solis, a Swiss company,
makes good stuff for the price range. Most of the grinders discussed
in this thread are almost overkill for regular coffee, but none I've
seen, with the exception of yours, are acceptable for true espresso,
which I know you dismiss as a bogus coffee concept. Nonetheless,
you've got an viable conical grinder that can do true espresso, should
you ever care to broaden your scope.

For you folks doing regular filtered coffee, all these are almost
overkill. A $15 whirly-blade grinder is good enough for drip coffee.
If you do decide to buy a better grinder, know that there are flat
burrs and conical burrs. Conical burrs are believed to be superior to
flat burrs by fanatical purists, but even espresso snobs agree that a
good set of flat burrs are better than a poor set of conical burrs.

Many coffee maker companies make flat burr machines where the burrs
are made of cheap pot metal or even (gasp!) very hard plastic. Avoid
them like the plague, as you will buying again, very soon. Before
buying, make the store breaks down the machine to the point where you
can see what kind of burrs it has. One last undeniable fact: just
like spices, freshly ground coffee, no matter what the machine, is
vastly superior to pre-ground.


nb... currently using a German Zassenhaus hand grinder.

Serene Vannoy wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
>
> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> > Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> > a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> > pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >
> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> > still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> > disappointing to say the least.
> >
> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >
>
> You may have just gotten a bum one. Ours is going strong after two years
> of several-times-daily usage, and Guy's had his for longer than that.
> These are the ones at Costco with the conical hopper? This one?
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/cuisinartgrinder
>
> Serene


TY. Yes that was the one. Have never had any Cuisinart product fail, but
then the others weren't made in China. Not really keen on trying another
one.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> >
> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> > envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> > something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
> >
> >
> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> > Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> > a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> > pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >
> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> > still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> > disappointing to say the least.
> >
> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>
> I have an Oster burr grinder that works great. A few weeks after we got
> it I thought it had died. It urned out to be that it needed a little
> cleaning. The find grins had built up and were blocking it from fitting
> exactly in place to hit a safety switch.


TY thought that might have been the problem but it wasn't; I keep our
kitchen electronics very clean. Let it cool down for an hour and it
wouldn't restart after that either.

Will have a look at Oster grinders. Our Oster blender is about 15 years
old and is used several times a month.

ffu wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:17:42 -0500, Dave Smith >
> wrote:
>
> >Arri London wrote:
> >>
> >> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> >> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> >> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
> >>
> >>
> >> However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> >> Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> >> a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> >> pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >>
> >> Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> >> still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> >> disappointing to say the least.
> >>
> >> Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >
> >I have an Oster burr grinder that works great. A few weeks after we got
> >it I thought it had died. It urned out to be that it needed a little
> >cleaning. The find grins had built up and were blocking it from fitting
> >exactly in place to hit a safety switch.
>
> I've had a Cuisinart coffee grinder for almost three years now and not a
> problem. It's used atleast three times a day.


You are luckier than we were. Just don't have time to be returning
defective merchandise.

Kent wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> > envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> > something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
> >
> >
> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> > Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> > a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> > pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >
> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> > still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> > disappointing to say the least.
> >
> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> >
> For the KA Pro Line try this URL:
> http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-KPC...1880805&sr=8-1

TY. Will investigate. The KA stand mixer (not made in China) is 10 years
old and still works fine.

Cheryl wrote:
>
> On Sat 26 Dec 2009 07:54:20p, Arri London wrote in
> rec.food.cooking >:
>
> >
> >
> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though.
> > Can envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and
> > muttering something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might
> > not be a bad thing
> >
> >
> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We
> > bought a Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course)
> > at a big box store a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even
> > last through the first pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >
> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years
> > old, and still often works, the near-instant failure of the
> > Cuisinart is disappointing to say the least.
> >
> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >
> > TIA!
> >
>
> My mom has this coffee grinder/maker all in one. Bad reviews here,
> but she likes it a lot.
>
> http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/v...params.item.K2
> 3311.desc.Technique-Programmable-10-Cup-Coffee-Maker-with-Grinder
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yfafrv7

TY! Will look.

Miche wrote:
>
> In article >, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> > envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> > something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
> >
> >
> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> > Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> > a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> > pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >
> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> > still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> > disappointing to say the least.
> >
> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >
> > TIA!
>
> Yeah, I've got a De Longhi burr grinder that I really like.
>
> Miche
>


TY. De Longhi products aren't all that common locally. They do a nice
range of items, but we don't see most of them here. Having said that,
the oil-filled radiator in my bedroom is from DeLonghi

"l, not -l" wrote:
>
> On 26-Dec-2009, Arri London > wrote:
>
> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> > envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> > something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'..
>
> I think the proper phrase is "Bean me up. . ." 8-)
> --
> Change Cujo to Juno in email address.


ROTFL! Yes indeed Don't I wish...

Michael Kuettner wrote:
>
> "l, not -l" schrieb :
> >
> > On 26-Dec-2009, Arri London > wrote:
> >
> >> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> >> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> >> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'..
> >
> > I think the proper phrase is "Bean me up. . ." 8-)
>
> No, it's "Scotch me up, Beamy!" ;-P
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner


Single malt yes...

ffu wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:14:56 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:
>
> >
> >On 26-Dec-2009, Arri London > wrote:
> >
> >> Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> >> envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> >> something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'..
> >
> >I think the proper phrase is "Bean me up. . ." 8-)
>
> And the grinder bounces across the counter attempting a take off with a full
> grind of expresso.


LOL! Or true to the films, gets destroyed for no good reason at all :P

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2009-12-27, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
> > I have a Solis Maestro Virtuoso... bought it on line from
> > http://www.sweetmarias.com/ in 2001, don't really remember the exact
> > price and don't feel like searching for the receipt, like $160 seems
> > right but likely costs more now... it's used every day and never had a
> > problem. As with all burr grinders they need routine cleaning, five
> > minutes with a small brush about once a month.

We clean our grinder after each use. Old coffee left in the mechanism
doesn't taste very good.

>
> This particular model comes in at the bottom of the acceptable burr
> grinder models, its burr set used on several brands. I had an
> Ibiteral from Spain with the same burrs. Solis, a Swiss company,
> makes good stuff for the price range. Most of the grinders discussed
> in this thread are almost overkill for regular coffee, but none I've
> seen, with the exception of yours, are acceptable for true espresso,
> which I know you dismiss as a bogus coffee concept. Nonetheless,
> you've got an viable conical grinder that can do true espresso, should
> you ever care to broaden your scope.
>
> For you folks doing regular filtered coffee, all these are almost
> overkill. A $15 whirly-blade grinder is good enough for drip coffee.
> If you do decide to buy a better grinder, know that there are flat
> burrs and conical burrs. Conical burrs are believed to be superior to
> flat burrs by fanatical purists, but even espresso snobs agree that a
> good set of flat burrs are better than a poor set of conical burrs.

We have a small blade grinder and it doesn't do that great a job. We
prefer the extrafine grind for our drip coffee.


>
> Many coffee maker companies make flat burr machines where the burrs
> are made of cheap pot metal or even (gasp!) very hard plastic. Avoid
> them like the plague, as you will buying again, very soon. Before
> buying, make the store breaks down the machine to the point where you
> can see what kind of burrs it has. One last undeniable fact: just
> like spices, freshly ground coffee, no matter what the machine, is
> vastly superior to pre-ground.
>
> nb... currently using a German Zassenhaus hand grinder.

LOL we have two hand grinders but more for decorative purposes. However,
they are both functional.

Arri London > wrote:

>We clean our grinder after each use. Old coffee left in the mechanism
>doesn't taste very good.

I admit to only cleaning out my burr grinder every couple weeks.
However I don't fill it with more coffee than I am immediately
grinding, and I find that if I run it a few extra seconds
at the end, that keeps old coffee from building up inside the
thing quite as fast.

Steve

On 2009-12-28, Arri London > wrote:

> We have a small blade grinder and it doesn't do that great a job. We
> prefer the extrafine grind for our drip coffee.

You need to hold down the button longer.

> LOL we have two hand grinders but more for decorative purposes. However,
> they are both functional.

Most hand grinders are, as you say, decorative. They are junk with
cast iron burrs, which are useless. The German made Zassenhaus
grinders (older) are on a much higher level. They are made with
machined high carbon steel conical burrs and are capable of the finest
of grinds, on par with any commercial grade espresso grinders costing
in the hundreds, even thousands of dollars more.

It would be a major score to find an older Zazzy grinder. I say older
because the German company ceased production of their famous hand
coffee/grain mills about 3-4 yrs ago. It was feared they would not
recover, but they did, finally, after about 2 yrs. The quality of the
reorganized Zazzy products is still the subject of much debate. I can
make no recommendations on the newer Zazzy's.

I got my original Zazzy at an antique shop for $15. It grinds better
than the $200 electric grinder I posted about earlier. If you come
across one, snag it tuit de suite! They are excellent grinders and
are now also collector's items.

nb

Arri London wrote:
>notbob wrote:
>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a Solis Maestro Virtuoso... bought it on line from
>> > http://www.sweetmarias.com/ in 2001, don't really remember the exact
>> > price and don't feel like searching for the receipt, like $160 seems
>> > right but likely costs more now... it's used every day and never had a
>> > problem. As with all burr grinders they need routine cleaning, five
>> > minutes with a small brush about once a month.
>
>We clean our grinder after each use. Old coffee left in the mechanism
>doesn't taste very good.

Do yu clean the water reservoir of your coffee maker each time before
you use it? With a burr grinder (at least mine) the cleaning has to
do with the wee bits that by static electricity are attracted into the
portion of the mechanism where they can't fall into the cup that
collects the freshly ground coffee one uses to brew... this cleaning
is to prevent accumlation that could interfere with the switch that
starts/stops the motor. I suppose I can wash the collecting cup
each time but realistically the quantity of grinds that stick to the
collecting cup amounts to perhaps 1/5,000 of the total grinds one
uses to brew a potful, and they are only there between grindings,
perhops 12 hours tops. I ain't that kinda obsessive- compulsive... do
you wash your hands every five minutes... I bet you spit shine each
bean before you use them.

>> For you folks doing regular filtered coffee, all these are almost
>> overkill. A $15 whirly-blade grinder is good enough for drip coffee.

That's exactly what all that cheap *******s say to rationalize their
cheap *******ness... folks who live by the "good enough for me" mantra
it's indicative of extremely low self esteem.

First off those whirly blade thingies ain't any kind of grinder...
calling that is grinder is like when you call your dildo a man. LOL
Next they ruin coffee beans by over processing and over heating. And
every one I've ever seen is too small to handle enough beans for more
than like half a pot... if yer gonna use a dildo at least get a big
one! Ahahaha...

All brewing systems benefit greatly from burr ground coffee... each
bean gets processed only once and exactly as much as the last... the
entire batch is homogeneous (no, that's not a *** word - hehe). Before
using one of those whirly thingies I'd rather use already ground
coffee from a can.

And whatever you do and no matter how much one spends on coffee
paraphenalia it's all for nought if you use lousy water.

On 2009-12-28, brooklyn1 > wrote:

> First off those whirly blade thingies ain't any kind of grinder...
> calling that is grinder is like when you call your dildo a man. LOL
> Next they ruin coffee beans by over processing and over heating.

I notice you ain't hammering yer beans on the counter with a heavy
pan, shell bourne. All that uniformity of grounds is so much hooey
with a drip filter. Espresso and/or a press pot are another thing.
For filtered, pound it with a hammer, grind it in a mortar/pestle,
shoot it with a sling shot against a brick wall..... whatever. Good
coffee and freshness is more important than grind. Water is a given.
Crap water equals crap coffee.

nb

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:54:20 -0700, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>
>Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
>envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
>something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
>
>
>However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
>Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
>a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
>pound of coffee! So back it went.
>
>Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
>still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
>disappointing to say the least.
>
>Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>
>TIA!

Not much help, but my 1960's/1970's KitchenAid is still working just
fine. I do have a backup and a pair of non-working ones. It seems
that they have different problems.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:17:57 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> That's exactly what all that cheap *******s say to rationalize their
> cheap *******ness... folks who live by the "good enough for me" mantra
> it's indicative of extremely low self esteem.
>

spam and crystal palace are part of the 'expense be damned' paradigm.

blake

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:53:02 -0500, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:17:57 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>
>> That's exactly what all that cheap *******s say to rationalize their
>> cheap *******ness... folks who live by the "good enough for me" mantra
>> it's indicative of extremely low self esteem.
>>
>
>spam and crystal palace are part of the 'expense be damned' paradigm.

Is it just me or is shemp getting worse?

Lou

Steve Pope wrote:
>
> Arri London > wrote:
>
> >We clean our grinder after each use. Old coffee left in the mechanism
> >doesn't taste very good.
>
> I admit to only cleaning out my burr grinder every couple weeks.
> However I don't fill it with more coffee than I am immediately
> grinding, and I find that if I run it a few extra seconds
> at the end, that keeps old coffee from building up inside the
> thing quite as fast.
>
> Steve

We do that too, but cleaning out machinery is compulsive with me LOL.
Comes from dealing with lab equipment worth several times my yearly
salary

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2009-12-28, Arri London > wrote:
>
> > We have a small blade grinder and it doesn't do that great a job. We
> > prefer the extrafine grind for our drip coffee.
>
> You need to hold down the button longer.

Maybe on your planet :P

>
> > LOL we have two hand grinders but more for decorative purposes. However,
> > they are both functional.
>
> Most hand grinders are, as you say, decorative. They are junk with
> cast iron burrs, which are useless. The German made Zassenhaus
> grinders (older) are on a much higher level. They are made with
> machined high carbon steel conical burrs and are capable of the finest
> of grinds, on par with any commercial grade espresso grinders costing
> in the hundreds, even thousands of dollars more.


These are Dutch semi-antiques which were in service at some time or
another.
>
> It would be a major score to find an older Zazzy grinder. I say older
> because the German company ceased production of their famous hand
> coffee/grain mills about 3-4 yrs ago. It was feared they would not
> recover, but they did, finally, after about 2 yrs. The quality of the
> reorganized Zazzy products is still the subject of much debate. I can
> make no recommendations on the newer Zazzy's.
>
> I got my original Zazzy at an antique shop for $15. It grinds better
> than the $200 electric grinder I posted about earlier. If you come
> across one, snag it tuit de suite! They are excellent grinders and
> are now also collector's items.
>
> nb

Might be difficult to find locally. The nearest antique shop considers
things from the 1960s as 'antique'.

The Cook wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:54:20 -0700, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> >envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> >something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
> >
> >
> >However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> >Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box store
> >a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> >pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >
> >Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> >still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> >disappointing to say the least.
> >
> >Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >
> >TIA!
>
> Not much help, but my 1960's/1970's KitchenAid is still working just
> fine. I do have a backup and a pair of non-working ones. It seems
> that they have different problems.
> --
> Susan N.


That's always the case. Often one brand fails predictably in a certain
way.

Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:20:59 -0700, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> >Might be difficult to find locally. The nearest antique shop considers
> >things from the 1960s as 'antique'.
>
> Which one did you go to?
> I found some interesting stuff in the Antique Mall on Central.. It is
> fairly close to you. Is that the one you went to?
>
>

Yes the one heading up to Tramway. Some of what they had was patently
fake and much of the rest wasn't old enough to qualify as an antique.

Did you get my email with the holiday greetings? Never answered the one
sent from my gmail address either...tsk tsk tsk.

Happy Holidays in any case!

On 2009-12-29, Arri London > wrote:

> Might be difficult to find locally. The nearest antique shop considers
> things from the 1960s as 'antique'.

So does the antique store where I got my $15 Zazzy, which is probably
circa 2nd half of 20th century. Older Zazzies are now more valuble
due to their high quality and lack of availability more than any
age or "antique" value.

nb

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:30:14 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-12-29, Arri London > wrote:
>
>> Might be difficult to find locally. The nearest antique shop considers
>> things from the 1960s as 'antique'.
>
>So does the antique store where I got my $15 Zazzy, which is probably
>circa 2nd half of 20th century. Older Zazzies are now more valuble
>due to their high quality and lack of availability more than any
>age or "antique" value.
>
>nb

Then the correct term is "vintage"; of a particular period but not an
antique. Few stores claiming to sell antiques actually do, they
typically sell reproductions and vintage garage sale junk. A
so-called antique furniture store that permits touching the furniture
is not selling genuine antiques, those are reproductions/fakes,
typically distressed to look old is all. Creating fake antiques is a
big business... a small chest of drawers selling for $500 and up cost
$50 in materials and about an hour's labor to produce. Anyone
contemplating purchse of "antique" funishings in the thousand dollar
range and up really should have the item appraised by a professional
prior to purchase, it's very easy to manufacture reproductions in all
price ranges. The typical antique hound hasn't a clue what they're
looking at. In the Philappines, where labor is rice bowl cheap,
recreating antique funiture is a huge cottage industry, they are very
good at what they do. India the same, specializes in reproducing all
manner of metalware, especially bronze lamps, and ncluding fake cast
iron cookware. Most of what's seen in so-called Ye Old Antique Shoppe
is brand new stuff, imported, and strewn heavily with cheapo garage
sale loot.

M-W

an·tique
noun
Date: 1530
1 : a relic or object of ancient times
2 a : a work of art, piece of furniture, or decorative object made at
an earlier period and according to various customs laws at least 100
years ago

Arri London wrote:

> LOL we have two hand grinders but more for decorative purposes. However,
> they are both functional.

Expensive.. but this pair will give you many, many years of outstanding
brew.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.rancilio-rocky.php


http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.technivorm.php


jay

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Kent wrote:
>>
>> "Arri London" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >
>> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
>> > envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
>> > something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
>> >
>> >
>> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
>> > Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box
>> > store
>> > a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
>> > pound of coffee! So back it went.
>> >
>> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
>> > still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
>> > disappointing to say the least.
>> >
>> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
>> >
>> > TIA!
>> >
>> >
>> For the KA Pro Line try this URL:
>> http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-KPC...1880805&sr=8-1
>
> TY. Will investigate. The KA stand mixer (not made in China) is 10 years
> old and still works fine.
>
>
I have two KA stand mixers. How do you oil them?
TIA,
Kent

On 2009-12-29, brooklyn1 > wrote:

> Then the correct term is "vintage"; of a particular period but not an
> antique. Few stores claiming to sell antiques actually do....

Agree with all you say, Shel, but what's the point. Yes, I've seen
true "antiques" like a 14th century French armoire or a 24 place table
where all chair and table legs were hand-carved busts of great
Amercians and cost $400K (a 19th century CA gov's). The fact is, most
stuff is, like you say, "vintage". Still, it's miles above the crap
now being sold to Americans. With exception of a few items like tv's
and food processors, most of it is total crap. Better to go and buy a
"vintage" real (but used!) cherry wood bed frame than the compressed
sawdust crap pushed by most retail outlets. Quality lasts. Long
after you die, your progeny can use, or sell, that same furniture to
someone else. Good stuff is like land. It will last long after we
are gone.

nb

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:18:35 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:53:02 -0500, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:17:57 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's exactly what all that cheap *******s say to rationalize their
>>> cheap *******ness... folks who live by the "good enough for me" mantra
>>> it's indicative of extremely low self esteem.
>>>
>>
>>spam and crystal palace are part of the 'expense be damned' paradigm.
>
> Is it just me or is shemp getting worse?
>
> Lou

it's hard to tell. how do you get lower than rock-bottom?

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:29:11 -0500, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:18:35 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:53:02 -0500, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:17:57 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly what all that cheap *******s say to rationalize their
>>>> cheap *******ness... folks who live by the "good enough for me" mantra
>>>> it's indicative of extremely low self esteem.
>>>>
>>>
>>>spam and crystal palace are part of the 'expense be damned' paradigm.
>>
>> Is it just me or is shemp getting worse?
>>
>> Lou
>
>it's hard to tell. how do you get lower than rock-bottom?
>

Lower limbs amputation.

On 2009-12-29, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:29:11 -0500, blake murphy

>>it's hard to tell. how do you get lower than rock-bottom?
>>
>
> Lower limbs amputation.

.....or ROFLMAO!!!

nb

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:42:10 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-12-29, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:29:11 -0500, blake murphy
>
>>>it's hard to tell. how do you get lower than rock-bottom?
>>>
>>
>> Lower limbs amputation.
>
>....or ROFLMAO!!!
>
>nb

I don't know how the mick internalized that attitude that
he's an intellectual, he's not... and knowing a few bits of arcane
trivia is hardly a sign of intelligence... and he hasn't any common
sense whatsoever, the concept of those living in glass houses
shouldn't throw rocks has never occured to him. Only the most pitiful
putz would make everyone he intends to belittle about their short
comings (real or imagined) aware of his own shortcomings. Imagine, he
slings arrows while displaying his proverbial Archiles heel... I say
provervbial because our mick has no heels. <G>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:16:54 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:42:10 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2009-12-29, brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:29:11 -0500, blake murphy
>>
>>>>it's hard to tell. how do you get lower than rock-bottom?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lower limbs amputation.
>>
>>....or ROFLMAO!!!
>>
>>nb
>
> I don't know how the mick internalized that attitude that
> he's an intellectual, he's not... and knowing a few bits of arcane
> trivia is hardly a sign of intelligence... and he hasn't any common
> sense whatsoever, the concept of those living in glass houses
> shouldn't throw rocks has never occured to him. Only the most pitiful
> putz would make everyone he intends to belittle about their short
> comings (real or imagined) aware of his own shortcomings. Imagine, he
> slings arrows while displaying his proverbial Archiles heel... I say
> provervbial because our mick has no heels. <G>

yeah, you've completely exposed my 'Archiles heel.'

blake

Kent wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Kent wrote:
> >>
> >> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Saw the coffee maker at Wal(ly)Mart. Wouldn't buy one though. Can
> >> > envision stumbling into the kitchen before sunrise and muttering
> >> > something like 'Beam me up, Scotty'...But that might not be a bad thing
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > However, we are in the market for a new coffee grinder. We bought a
> >> > Cuisinart burr-type grinder (made in China of course) at a big box
> >> > store
> >> > a couple of weeks ago. The motor didn't even last through the first
> >> > pound of coffee! So back it went.
> >> >
> >> > Given that we have a Proctor-Silex grinder that is 30+ years old, and
> >> > still often works, the near-instant failure of the Cuisinart is
> >> > disappointing to say the least.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone got a burr-type grinder that seems reliable?
> >> >
> >> > TIA!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> For the KA Pro Line try this URL:
> >> http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-KPC...1880805&sr=8-1
> >
> > TY. Will investigate. The KA stand mixer (not made in China) is 10 years
> > old and still works fine.
> >
> >
> I have two KA stand mixers. How do you oil them?
> TIA,
> Kent


No idea. The thing has dripped tiny amounts of oil since it was new. KA
says it's normal...Since it's well out of warranty, might just take it
apart to see.